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Misogynatomy II: Women have periods because cavewomen didn’t eat meat, angry weirdo claims [UPDATE: He was joking]

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By David Futrelle

More misogynatomy for your misogynatomy filesI don’t quite know how the British tabloids (The Sun, The Mirror, Metro UK) got to this story before I did but STOP THE PRESSES, there’s a weird angry dude on Facebook who thinks cis women get periods because cavewomen didn’t eat meat. No, really.

I was going to try to summarize his, er, logic here but I honestly can’t, so let’s just let him explain.

First of all periods are disgusting. Why do you feel the need to tell everyone and their mother 'sorry I'm in a bad mood, it's that time of the month'.

What is wrong with you? Your entire job is to be aesthetically pleasing and add femininity. But instead you're slouched over holding your gut whining. Nothing about it is sexy but the mental picture is worse.
Shoving phallic objects up there to 'absorb' your leaking body that's trying desperately to get rid of your toxic blood.

Which is where it comes to it being your fault,"You're not a man which means your maternal ancestors didn't hunt. They were at most gatherers and ate from the land.

Instead of salads and grains and fruits I see you monsters shoving burgers and steaks and chicken in your face. Your body is trying to get rid of all that and so it's bleeding that animal graveyard you call a digestive tract, out.

I  have no sympathy for your exaggerated pain

You got that, vagina-havers? You get periods because WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH BUT APPARENTLY DIDN’T SHARE ANY WITH YOU.

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Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Lumipuna

US edition, not the local one

Is Cosmo in other countries different? I would assume it would be the same content translated. Is Finnish Cosmo better in terms of content/feminism?

HOWEVER, I don’t think this is something you could or should try to pull off (sorry) on another person without detailed communication. The whole sexual communication thing is where Cosmopolitan most famously fails.

Yup. At least it’s not as bad as the 50 Shades of Grey special edition, which invited women to try light BDSM on men without consent.

In general, Cosmo tips range from useless/silly at best to dangerous/likely to cause injury at worst.

Come to think of it, Cosmo has a fair amount of misogynatomy in it as part of its usual misogyny. Not to mention that it doesn’t seem to have the highest opinion of men either. Or anyone who isn’t cisgendered and heterosexual.

Robert Haynie
Robert Haynie
1 year ago

Welp.

Forget misogyny, this is possibly the most misandrist post I have ever seen. He’s implying that early males were too fucking stupid to feed their partners after a long day of mammoth hunting. And also that we should still be that stupid so that women are less, well, women.

It’s things like this that put me into full support of the “Men Going Their Own Way” movement. I should very much like them to go their own way, as long as it’s reasonably far away from me.

vaiyt
vaiyt
1 year ago

we hunted the mammoth and then didn’t share it, forgetting that all of our male descendants would share 50% of their DNA with those ungrateful harpies anyway

Not Edward
Not Edward
1 year ago

Everything else in his post is spectacularly ignorant, potty and vile, but I do think “slunched” as a combination of “slumped” and “hunched” ought to be a word (albeit I suspect he coined it accidentally).

Weasel-rah
Weasel-rah
1 year ago

Hunter-gatherer societies still exist in places. The ones that have been evaluated, the gathering is like 80% of the calories overall. You gonna starve to death without that gathering. Especially now cuz no mammoths left, those greedy Neolithic alphas ate them all and didn’t’ even share, apparently.
This person seems to have a really strong case of extreme squick about bodily functions in general, which I’ve seen in a lot of mysoges as well as extreme orthorexics. I wonder if there’s a link somehow.

BlueNinja
BlueNinja
1 year ago

So the take away from this is that ancient men and women lived in separate tribes and humans…presumably have a cloaca?

Yeah, let me clear this up as simply as I can for these dolts:
* The vagina is not connected to the digestive tract.
* And the loss of iron from the period and the needs of pregnancy mean women should probably eat more meat and likely consumed their share of it, else humanity wouldn’t have survived.
* Women have long been hunters too, even if some tribes eons later became stationary and decided to divide up the chores. Even still, if you can’t hunt, you starve, esp in winter, so it was an important human skill for all, not just men.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

@Weasel-Rah

This person seems to have a really strong case of extreme squick about bodily functions in general, which I’ve seen in a lot of mysoges

I’ve noticed that as well. My best guess for the explanation is that they hate women in general, so they don’t take the time to understand said functions, so they find said functions gross.

Or, if you subscribe to the Neo-Freudian feminist psychology of Karen Horney, it could be womb envy.

Lailette
Lailette
1 year ago

…I’m a life vegetarian. I have literally NEVER eaten meat. & Just like every vegetarian & vegan cis woman I have ever met, I menstruate.

Check mate, internet weirdo.

Viscaria
Viscaria
1 year ago

You’re entire job is to be aesthetically pleasing and add femininity

You’re telling me that I don’t even need to do all the stuff I do at work? Really? My arm is all messed up, I’m stressed about deadlines, and all for no reason? Why wouldn’t my boss tell me??!

Tovius
1 year ago

@Not Edward
I’ll admit, it took me a long while to realize that slunched isn’t actually a real word. It sounds like it could be.

The Ceryneian Hind
The Ceryneian Hind
1 year ago

Hi David!

The last couple of articles on posts from r/badwomensanatomy sent me on a binge of their top posts and whilst looking I discovered that the post this article was based off was apparently satire: (I hope that linked right.)

(The image in the Reddit post I linked to has the poster’s names censored but not the name of the group it was posted to, that being one where people pretend to mansplain things to women.)

Apologies if you or the commenters were already aware!

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
1 year ago

Is Cosmo in other countries different? I would assume it would be the same content translated. Is Finnish Cosmo better in terms of content/feminism?

I just barely know there is a Finnish edition of Cosmopolitan. Somehow, my local public library was stocking the US edition for while in the mid 00s.

Cliff once briefly noted there was a separate UK edition, with seemingly a bit more sensible style.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
1 year ago

why do you feel the need to tell everyone and their mother. “sorry I’m in a bad mood it’s that time of the month”

Does anyone actually do that? Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever heard a woman say that.

Knitting Cat Lady
Knitting Cat Lady
1 year ago

@Lukas Xavier:

It usually goes like this:

Friends meet.

A: How are you?

B: Cramps.

A: Sucks.

Which is short hand for this:

A: How are you?

B: I have cramps, and am in a crappy mood. So I might bite your head off.

A: Oh, yeah, totally understand. We’ve all been there. No worries, I won’t take it personally if you snap at me!

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
1 year ago

I think my friends have brought up their period about twice – family and coworkers, not at all. If I didn’t go out of my way to read blogs such as WHTM, I’d hardly know anything about menstruation beyond what textbooks say.

I haven’t dated women – stereotypically, isn’t that when men get properly acquainted with Aunt Flo? The guy quoted in OP seems to be talking just about his coworkers. Now, I don’t know if he really has a job, but clearly he shouldn’t try to endure women’s company any more than is strictly necessary.

Hambeast
Hambeast
1 year ago

Knitting Cat Lady said

Also, people who say they are allergic when in fact they just don’t like something? May every step they take fall one a D4.

This was one thing I had to train Husbeast out of because it bugged the living crap out of me.

He used to tell people that he was allergic to soy. When we moved in together, I told him that he was not allergic to soy which made him a bit salty. So I gathered all of his favorite snack foods and pointed out that each and every one of them contained Lecithin. When he said “So?” I told him that Lecithin IS* soy; one of the packages even said ‘soy lecithin.’ He quit going on about his food “allergies” after that. We even eat a lot of soyrizo (soy based chorizo sausage) nowadays.

I think he got this from his mother (who lives with us now) because she “can’t” eat so many foods. I’d certainly prefer it if she’d just say she doesn’t like something but she never will.

*It’s the cheapest and most common source in the US. anyway

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
1 year ago

I do wonder if some people resort to claiming an allergy because they have friends or relatives who won’t take “No thanks, I just don’t like that food” for an answer.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@moon cluster

Yes. Yes to all. They don’t understands ny whole “if the texture is weird it will make me gag and I might actually vomit” thing. They think im just making it up but I have food triggers in a way and so many people wont accept that so i have to lie some times.

Naglfar
Naglfar
1 year ago

According to the Reddit thread, some incels agreed with it still.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
1 year ago

@Moon_custafer
I was literally about to write that exact same thing.

Catalpa
Catalpa
1 year ago

Does anyone actually do that?

Occasionally, if I have a bad cramp-and-nausea day, then I’ll tell my coworkers that I need to leave/take a sick day because of “the curse”. Though it isn’t as though I’ll trumpet it from the rooftops.

And with my friends, we’ll discuss our periods in explicit detail. But that’s a communal sharing of our grievances.

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
1 year ago

Food allergies
I never say I’m allergic to melon. I just say I don’t like it. That often leads to “… even watermelon, even honeydew? Well, you haven’t tried…”

The thing is, it’s not a case of not preferring it or even not liking it. It disgusts me, it makes me want to hurl. And no I can’t just pick it out. I can smell/ taste the tiniest bit of it. Lately, I can’t even be near it. I had to leave the house when my partner and his kids were eating some. Which surprised me, because I haven’t had that experience before.

I could see why someone who has a food aversion like mine would lie.

People who grew up in times of food scarcity (like my in-laws or grandparents) find it genuinely offensive if you turn down food just because you don’t like it. If you don’t want to cause offense, you lie. If you don’t want an argument, sometimes you have to lie. I choose not to lie, because I think not liking is enough – but I understand why people do.

Talking about periods

I have heard many women I know say something discretely to a friend/female colleague/ family member if they’re having a bad period. But usually in single-gender company. And why shouldn’t they?

I have heard a few badly behaved women blame their crappy behaviour on menstrual symptoms, but usually these people are looking for an excuse to be inconsiderate jerks anyway. It’s always someone or something else’s fault kinda people.

What is more likely to happen – or at least what I used to experience/witness a lot when I was younger – is a woman takes some male colleague to task for his crappy behaviour and he says something about her being on the rag – either to her face or behind her back.

kupo
kupo
1 year ago

I often say I have an allergy because people either assume I’m a fad dieter or that small quantities are okay if I say I can’t have gluten. They often don’t understand that an intolerance is actually a medical issue and that it can make me very ill, and while most people understand coeliac these days, no one knows about the other autoimmune disorders that can result in an intolerance. I don’t want to dredge up my medical history every time I want someone to take my refusals seriously, and “allergy” is a word that gets across both the severity and level of sensitivity without needing more explanation.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@Kupo

My good friend is like that. One time a waiter at olive garden didn’t take her seriously either when she asked for gluten free. She told me she saw him roll his eyes and when she got her meal it tasted fine but about an hour later she was so sick. we had to take her to the emergency room.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

When I was younger, my menstrual cycle was so erratic and my hormones so imbalanced that it would make my depression (that was mostly under control) suddenly swan dive into a deep dark pit. Most of my self harm would happen on my period and after like two suicide attempts that were also during it, my doctor decided to look into that finally. Getting those hormones balanced again made my depression so much more manageable. So your menstration can actually effect your mood a lot. Even with birth control keeping everything balanced, my period is still the time I probably think about hurting myself or killing myself the most. Minus the winter, but I think that might just be seasonal depression because of the less sunlight.

Don’t worry though, I wouldn’t act on these thoughts when they do show up. I’m in a good place right now so my depression is losing the battle against me.

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
1 year ago

@Lainy That is so good to hear. 🙂

Full Metal Ox
1 year ago

@Hambeast:

He used to tell people that he was allergic to soy. When we moved in together, I told him that he was not allergic to soy which made him a bit salty. So I gathered all of his favorite snack foods and pointed out that each and every one of them contained Lecithin. When he said “So?” I told him that Lecithin IS* soy; one of the packages even said ‘soy lecithin.’ He quit going on about his food “allergies” after that. We even eat a lot of soyrizo (soy based chorizo sausage) nowadays.

On the TV show Ugly Delicious, an exploration of the appeal of trashy comfort foods, Korean-American chef David Chang conducted an experiment with a panel of white Americans who claimed to be sensitive to the MSG* in Asian restaurant food, inviting them to discuss their experiences. During the conversation, he congenially served them Doritos–which are, of course, laden with guess what: http://qz.com/quartzy/1477172/the-persistent-racist-myth-of-chinese-restaurant-syndrome-just-wont-die/

*Which is a flavorant occurring naturally in any number of Western as well as traditional Asian foods–meat, aged cheese, and tomatoes come to mind; the Chinese have been extracting it from wheat gluten (hence the name “glutamate” and the Japanese from seaweed at least long enough to pass the “would someone in 1900 recognize this as food” test.

Lainy
Lainy
1 year ago

@Fishy Goat

Thanks, people were talking about how it effects mood so I thought I just share my kind of extreme case on that. I don’t think people realize that your hormones being unbalanced can cause more then just being a little weepy. I also was having two periods a month before I went onto birth control with about a week in between where I wasn’t just constant menstruating. Of course no one wants to listen to a 16, 17 year old girl when she says her period makes her want to kill herself.

Hypatia's Daughter
Hypatia's Daughter
1 year ago

Weasel-rah

Hunter-gatherer societies still exist in places. The ones that have been evaluated, the gathering is like 80% of the calories overall.

Per usual, people (especially those who like to boast that THEY hunted the mammoth!) think that gatherers only gathered plant foods. Actually hunters went after game that needed to be tracked or stalked, while gatherers collected a variety of “stationary” foods such as plants, eggs, birds, fish, shellfish, reptiles and insects – animal foods that could be trapped, snared or netted.
Gatherers had to be pretty damn smart to learn the natural and seasonal characteristics of all these foods, which were safe to eat, and how to collect and prepare them.

M.K.
M.K.
1 year ago

Except that hunting and food gathering were not skills that every caveperson had, because we have archaeological evidence of disabled members of prehistoric tribes/family groups, and while they might have been able to do some hunting/gathering or had other skills, it’s equally likely that their community just fed and took care of them because…they loved and valued them and the resources it took were worth it.

Also for the record, not that I think people are owed an explanation why you do or don’t eat some things, but I don’t see why claiming to have an allergy to a thing if you don’t is a problem. Sometimes it’s the only way people will listen to you. People really need to stop trying to get other people to eat stuff they don’t want to eat.