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Repub “health care” bill pulled. RESISTANCE WORKS! Happy Friday!

The Republican party in action

It’s a good day. And it’s all thanks to those who protested in the streets, who showed up at Town Hall meetings, who called or wrote their elected representatives, who did anything else they could think of to fight repeal. If you were part of the Resistance, and I know a lot of you were, give yourself a big hand. You did it. We did it.

Without the ACA, there’s no way I could get insurance. There’s no way millions of Americans could get insurance. What a fucking relief this is. What a weight off all of our shoulders.

The fact that this is a massive defeat for Trump and Ryan and the Republicans generally is just icing on the cake.

Consider this an open thread. No Trump fans.

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EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

The fallout begins. Laugh? I nearly rofl’d. Schadenfreude is the very sweetest of pleasures.

https://www.axios.com/inside-the-trumpcare-meltdown-2329417172.html

When the balky hardliners of the House Freedom Caucus visited the White House earlier this week, this was Steve Bannon’s opening line, according to people in the conference room in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building:

“Guys, look. This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill.”

[…]

One of the members replied: “You know, the last time someone ordered me to something, I was 18 years old. And it was my daddy. And I didn’t listen to him, either.”

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@MJJ

Just wanted to let you know, you really sound like a jackass. Thought I’d give you a heads-up just in case that wasn’t your intention. Poor phrasing affects us all at some point, so you never know.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@MJJ

none of the people who were likely to be influenced by liberal activism were likely to have voted for it anyway

Activism on top of worrying poll numbers (people like Obamacare when you’re about to take it away) and general anti Trump sentiment would likely influence everyone, I think. Some would calculate it’s still worth voting for, but they only needed 22 to break ranks. Some of the ‘Freedom’ assholes did as well as some of the lesser fascists. Point taken, but I’m not gonna rule out the calls and whatnot as a factor

The problem with the “repeal and replace” bill (AHCA) is that it prioritized reducing the taxes associated with the ACA (i.e. Obamacare) and did little to deal with the issues that the majority of opponents really cared about

I mean, the issue that the majority of opponents have is that a black dude’s name is attached to it, so…

PaganReader - Misandrist Spinster

A Medicare for all bill has been introduced by Democrats in the House – H.R. 676 (Link goes to Congress website)
ETA: it was introduced 1/24/17 apparently

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Gotta say that no Democrats were expected to vote for the bill. You think they’d have a united spine without activism? Even if you want to totally discount what I said earlier about moderate Republicans, the fact that zero Democrats were behind this bill when we all know about their history of blue dogging is remarkable.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

@PoM

the fact that zero Democrats were behind this bill when we all know about their history of blue dogging is remarkable

^This. Preferably, especially going forward, they wouldn’t need to be yelled at every week to be an opposition party and, ya know, fuckin oppose. It’s like they keep forgetting they have the support they do

Also, the significance of both the ‘Freedom’ assholes and the ‘moderates’ tearing away shouldn’t be taken lightly. With just 1 faction jumping ship, they coulda maybe been targeted and reigned back in. When everybody flees the titanic, that’s much harder to do. How do you give either group what they want without further pushing out the other?

gijoel
gijoel
3 years ago

And the public denunciations have begun.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
3 years ago

Since this is an open thread, I’ll put it here that we made a German chocolate cake today and subbed in bourbon for half of the water.

It’s … a very nice cake. 😀

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
3 years ago

Holy shit, y’all. Sorry if someone’s already posted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg0ZxRqLc9A
Team Trump is just addled with shit. Usually takes years for an administration to build up this many scandals. Also, if for nothing else, check out that shade starting at ~15:30. Fuckin savage! 😁

abars01
abars01
3 years ago

Say David, there’s something I’ve been wanting to ask you for a while now, but every time there’s been an open thread, I’ve forgotten about it until after the thread was pretty much dead. But not this time!

I heard that, back on the 13th of February, there was a protest in Chicago in which people mooned the sign reading Trump’s name on the façade of the Trump International Hotel and Tower. I just have to ask; were you there, by any chance? Did you do that? Cause man, that sounds like it would have been an absolute blast. I wish there was a building with Trump’s name on it here in Melbourne (well, not really…) so I could do that.

Hambeast (fan of diversity)
Hambeast (fan of diversity)
3 years ago

I know this thread is pretty much done, but that gif! For those not familiar with these particular trash bins, there is a warning stamped into the lid warning against moving it around with the lid flipped open like that…

PoM – After ridding myself of Husbeast’s nephew, my friend came over to help me with Catbeast’s daily sub-Q fluid administration while Husbeast was off at an IT conference. She made a German chocolate cake, too, using cannabutter. Once you get past the green-tinted frosting, it’s just… OHO, YASSSSS!

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Axecalibur
It’s like a homemade pecan pie topped with a bucket of pina colada icecream in terms of delectable shadenfreude. Oh imagine what delights await us when all these threads come unraveled and laid bare.

Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@Zaunfink

But, considering that you can’t prevent negative worth people from being born

Well, you can, but the republicans are generally against that sort of thing. Its ok though, because if you remove enough social safety nets the lowest worth people will just start dying of their own accord!

( every single child has negative worth),

Did you know that some hardcore libertarians believe that children, being a burden on their parents whilst contributing nothing financially themselves, are not entitled to food or housing? Postnatal abortions are a right for everyone in the libertarian utopia!

They’re not totally heartless though. They do believe that child labour laws should be repealed to allow children to maximise their financial worth unhindered by the mean old government.

wouldn’t the logical reaction be to try and change the system to one where people have the highest possible chance of having a positive worth?

Well, if you let most of the poor people die, and make sure the rich people can make their children rich from the get-go, you will have a system where survival to adulthood is correlated with positive worth. Problem solved!

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

@ pie

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Pie
Pie
3 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

Awesome.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
3 years ago

Also, the vending machines only take pure gold and Bitcoin, none of this silly fake Big Government “Fiat money” nonsense.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
3 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw
Is there an ms paint illustration to accompany this hilarity?
@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
To be fair they’ll (sometimes) accept bitcoin.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
3 years ago

My cocaine machines only take Bitcoins.

I’m sure one of the many talented artists around here could oblige.

JS
JS
3 years ago

Others and @gijoel
Those links go to list-manage tracking URLs. One or more of them may be incorrectly copied. I suggest no one click on them unless you enjoy tracking. If you’ve got the actual site links (click on in your own browser, cut and paste from address bar usually works), that’d be nice.

Chaos-Engineer
Chaos-Engineer
3 years ago

If anyone is confused about exactly why the bill was pulled, the New York Times has a really good infographic showing who’s to blame.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/24/us/politics/the-health-care-blame-game.html?_r=0

lemoncurdled
lemoncurdled
3 years ago

Hi all!

I’m new to the feminism movement and want to get involved locally to me on a practical level (ie preferably something more than cafe meetups). I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for the Melbourne, Australia area?

(I realise this might be mostly an American commentariat, it seems I need to broaden my reading circle a bit!)

Thanks! Some days I come here to fume, but I have stuck around for the insightful comments and of course, the obligatory cat pictures.

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
3 years ago

@lemoncurdled

Cat pictures are literally all you need to be feministing right.

… okay, maybe not, but I maintain that it’s an important part of, well, everything.

As for local involvement, the trick is usually in finding the events. I have no idea how Melbourne is so I don’t know that I have any good advice though. Normally I just recommend walking around the streets and paying attention to posters, leaflets, anything – but I live close to a city where more than half of those are from/for feminists, so obviously that helps.

Hm… maybe facebook groups and the like ? I’ve gotten directions from those before.

Though I wanna point out something : you said you’re new to feminism. So I assume you’re still learning (to be fair, all of us are continually “still” learning – those who’ve stopped become TERFs or the like) – in that case, café meetups are actually perfect. Take a seat and listen, then repeat. Besides, you’re sure to get directions to bigger events from those too.

helix_luco
helix_luco
3 years ago

@lemoncurdled
if you’ve got a planned parenthood nearby, maybe you could be an escort? …or, i don’t know if Australia has those outrageous anti-choice protesters.

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
3 years ago

@lemoncurdled,
Hi, I’m Australian, but a long way from Melbourne. Have you already tried cafe meetups? I’m in too rural an environment for that sort of thing, but would have hoped one could meet other local feminists at such events, and they could direct you to local activity.
If you are a student, how about student associations, or your student union?
If you’re working, or even if you’re not currently in work, your union? Unions collaborate on universal issues like women’s rights at work and in life.
http://www.unionwomen.org.au

I can list a few social media pages I find informative, if you’d like.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@lemoncurdled

Here in Aust. you might want to check out Destroy the Joint and/or Mad Fucking Witches (they’re both on social media which is a good place to start as this is where they publicise events and issues). For more local stuff, you could check Facebook for groups in your area. There’s plenty in the capital cities, and you’re in Melbourne, I gather? I’m in Brisbane myself, btw 🙂

There’s also any number of groups that are feminist-friendly although focused on other issues as well, like refugee support groups, anti-racist groups, LGBTIQ+, etc. If you’re interested in pursuing any of the above, let me know.

Your nym makes me think of lemon butter…

Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
Weird (Encouraged by the RESISTANCE!!!!) Eddie
3 years ago

Ahhh, the right… ever the supporter of women… so long as they toe the line. The Blaze vlogger Tomi Lahren has reportedly been fired from Beck’s Blazing Bullshit Bucket for daring to have opinions while speaking.

The “cute-as-a-button-and-hey-she’s-on-our-side” casualty opined that “limited government” included staying out of her gun case… okay, no worries there… and staying out of her uterus… WHAAA-AAAA-AAAAA-TTTTT?????

Hey, Tomi, meet Michelle Fields, former Breitbart reporter, Megyn Kelly, former Faux News-ie, and many, many other women who have discovered that, for the right-wing, they’re really only pin-up babes.

Croquembouche of patriarchy
Croquembouche of patriarchy
3 years ago

*Waves to Mish*
Hope the wall of water in the air dissipates before it reaches you…

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
3 years ago

@Croquembouche of patriarchy

*waves back, grins*

Thanks to Cyclone Debbie (srsly who comes up with these names?) we are all home today as schools and universities are closed. We’re up high so we’ll be ok but it’s not pretty out there 🙁
Any Qld/northern NSW mammotheers, stay safe and stay home if you can.

lemoncurdled
lemoncurdled
3 years ago

Apologies for the late reply, it was a busy weekend.

Thanks for all the suggestions, I will look at Facebook groups and see what I can find.

@helix_luco
There’s no legal abortion in Australia, so no need for escorts. Maybe looking at a group that pushes for legalisation would be a good idea.

@Croquembouche of patriarchy
Thanks, I’m not a student or working, one reason I didn’t know where to look.

@Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Thank you, never heard of those people (groups?), I will definitely check them out.