This lovely meme, found in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, pretty unreadable even at full resolution. But it’s not too hard to see what point the meme-maker was trying to get across.
Naturally, Reddit’s MGTOWs have many thoughts on this subject.
Like these:
And these:
Wait, am I reading this correctly? Has the legendary Chad Thundercock been replaced by his brother Chuck?
I feel kinda bad for the models who posed for the stock photos MGTOWs love to appropriate for their memes. No one wants to discover one day that they’ve become the focus of a MGTOW two-minute hate.
Memes should not contain fine print that you have to squint to read.
I’m not reading all of that but at least I could if I want to, which is more than I can say about most of the shit they produce.
3/10
Yay, when I’m on summer teaching hours I get to see new WHTM posts as soon as they hit my inbox!!!
*reads post*
Oh.
I am now feeling torn between wanting to make fun of this ridiculous, pathetic, non-factual monstrosity, and taking it personally (yes, feels, not logic). Single mums abound in my family, and yet our number of criminals is fairly proportional, I believe.
Idiots.
I want to come up with some pithy explanation for the concept of “correlation does not equal causation” and a backhanded statement of just how little understanding they have of the world based on the conclusion they drew.
But my patience is limited and the target oblivious, so I’ll just note they’re a bunch of raging, blinkered diarrhetic assholes who couldn’t miss so many points any harder if they simply threw themselves on a set of steak knives.
So according to CyanideCookiez, single moms are horrible, but any man who seeks to make them no longer single (dating being a nigh-necessary precursor to marriage) is beneath contempt?
What solution to this “scourge” would he propose then?
“Upbring your child”?
I feel like upchucking all over the asshole who wrote that.
Also, I can’t imagine what they would say about widowed mothers. Or gay ones.
I often wonder what kind of mothering they themselves got, but I suspect it’s best answered with “Not ever nearly enough to suit their spoiled narcissistic asses.”
I’m mystified. Where’s the dads in this picture? Don’t they have some responsibility to uh, not be deadbeats to their children, and the mothers of their children? Yet these MGTOW types blame the ladies, despite also wanting that “paper abortion” thing, which would essentially allow them to be deadbeats without any repercussion.
What gives? These dudes want it both ways.
Yeah because feelings are never a good thing to bring into the raising of a child. Children should only be treated with cold unfeeling detachment. That’s what creates healthy adults.
All of the criminals in my family come from married households between a cis man and cis woman. None of the queer or single parents have criminal children. Checkmate, manosphere.
@Ray,
“I want to come up with some pithy explanation for the concept of “correlation does not equal causation””
My personal favorite is: the plural of anecdote is not data.
The… the baby?
Oh. You mean the person caring for and loving the baby. Well all right then.
I’m a little depressed that my first reaction to this was surprise that they used a white model.
Who else, upon first hearing the name “Chad Thundercock”, assumed it was that of a porn star?
This movement is failing horribly. I have never seen men more obsessed with women than the migtoes.
Maybe he referred to Upchuck, the legendary playboy of Lawndale High.
I couldn’t help myself – I squinted and read the tiny print. There’s a handful of actual, credible sources in there, but all of these factoids have been circulating for years, mostly on men’s rights pages (I know, what a surprise).
Some of the figures are from the early 1990s; some cover only one state (a US one of course); many are from religious ‘pro-family’ groups. And so on.
But look! Here’s a peer-reviewed, up-to-date study that covers an actually significant number of children and parents, and it has found that “quality of parenting” (regardless of gender) is what counts for various outcomes in children’s wellbeing.
What could possibly explain this discrepancy?
Wonder how many of these guys are dads?
Wonder how many of these guys are good dads?
http://33.media.tumblr.com/48152f20ccd49e24d78ce8c3476608d8/tumblr_mi6pdjSzuI1r3l41yo2_250.gif
b – but the plural of anecdote is data! (Biased, unfiltered, raw data, but still!)
((sorry, that one’s sort of a pet peeve of mine! :s ))
I think they kind of have to. They have contempt for women of color who are single moms, but racism keeps that at a certain emotional distance, because the black single mom isn’t the woman they were supposed to have.
Ah, but single white mom! She was the woman they were supposed to have, and instead she had sex with a bunch of good-looking men who may or may not be related to Chad Thundercock, and got pregnant. That’s personal. She owed them sex, but she had sex with men she found attractive instead, and she had a baby, and now probably thinks the baby is more important than them and their sexual needs.
I was surprised as well. maybe this is their way of trying to prove they’re not racist, “See we hate woman of all colors” or some shit like that.
I used to laugh at the MGTOWs, but I must admit that I now wish that these oxygen thieves would, well, stop thieving oxygen.
So let me get this straight..
According to the manosphere (MRAs, Red Pill, Mgtow, etc)
A married woman is bad because she’s mooching off a man and nagging him, just being lazy and eating Bon bons
But a single woman (mom) is bad too because she needs to be with a man, working outside the home (aka entering a man’s space) and mooching off the “daddy government”
So in short: men could do no wrong, everything a woman does is wrong. But they say we are the emotional and illogical ones???
Don’t forget, Fruitloopsie – single women with no kids are also soulless bitches who take jobs from Real Men ™
@Scildfreja Unnýðnes
I’d be surprised if any of these guys are dads, frankly. Now, if the question was about whether their dad and mom divorced and they never saw dad afterwards or if he got himself a new wife and new kids while ignoring them…that sounds more likely.
Some other related stuff…
That P.A.S. (parental alienation syndrome) has recently been scrutinized and many mental health professionals have denounced it. There was a surge in family court cases where P.A.S. was alleged back in the 90’s, then it faded and returned once again in the last oh….6-8 years.
I am a family law attorney. Only once have I had a client who knee-jerked and needed some blunt advisement on why not to take the children and go on the lam (and who wasn’t in need of DV services and shelter). It can get overwhelming with how often I have to deal with assholes who don’t want to pay for their kids whatsoever – if opposing counsel gets fed up with their own client lying to them about the kids being on their health insurance policy, that’s a really bad sign – but it’s a special kind of raging chancre-on-the-ass-of-life who is so intent on destroying their soon-to-be-ex that they refuse to give up until a family court judge gives them custody and tries every trick that worked in a case once, P.A.syndrome, false allegations of abuse with CPS called in to investigate, refusing to return the children at the arranged time (this usually is to allow the asshead more time to convince the kids that their mom is a bad woman who hurts them), and they’ve got money to burn unlike their former spouse, so they can keep the dog and pony show going for as long as they need to until she gives up. Honestly, becoming a single mom whose kids’ have a deadbeat dad that won’t pay child support is preferable to “SUPER-DICKHEAD” ™-dad.
@Scildfreja
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