Another HUGE VICTORY for Men’s Rights! Some guy on the internet told a woman that the term “mansplaining” is mean to men! And then he used the “c-word” a couple of times!
At first glance, this might not be seen as the HUGE VICTORY that it truly is, men’s rights-wise, but get this! The guy in question is the guy who made Minecraft! A VIDEO GAME that LOTS OF PEOPLE LIKE. Which makes his opinion on this subject really really super important, for some reason.
Naturally, the fellas who hang out in the Men’s Rights subreddit understand what a TRIUMPH this is for men’s rights. There are currently three posts on this WORLD HISTORIC EVENT in the subreddit’s top ten.
Over in KotakuInAction,the main GamerGate hangout on Reddit, the regulars are if anything even more AWAKE to this monumental achievement for all mankind. They’ve got FOUR posts on it in their top ten.
So let’s check out the Minecraft dude’s carefully reasoned argument, which he Tweeted out yesterday.
You can tell he’s totally right about this, and also quite BRAVE, because he got 3700 likes and retweets for it.
Persson went on to explain his PERFECT MANLOGIC in more detail.
Ha ha! Because this explainy thing that men do to women constantly but that women do to men pretty rarely is equivalent to calling car crashes “womendriving” because, ha ha, women can’t drive and are responsible for 90% of all car crashes no wait, that’s not even remotely true; the demographic group that is responsible for far more than their share of accidents is teenagers.
When one Twitterer suggested it might perhaps behoove him to listen to women on this issue, Persson quickly saw through this MISANDRIST OPPRESSION of men who want to talk pretty much constantly.
Actually, Mr. Persson, as I have learned from years of doing this blog, there is no possible way to shut up men who want to inform you at great length of their opinions about feminism and what women are doing wrong. You can ban them from your comments, sure, but some of them will keep trying to post comments for months if not years afterwards.
And certainly Mr. Persson felt no need to shut up. Instead, he kicked his MANLOGICAL STEM LOGIC up a notch by unleashing the ultimate tool in the MANLOGICAL STEM LOGICKING toolkit. I refer, of course, to the c-word.
Here he applied the MANLOGIC STEM LOGICKING directly:
But don’t worry, gals! He’s totally got your back! He’s an EQUALITYIST who’s all for equality between the genders and not for sexism at all!
Huh. Apparently being into “equal rights and against sexism” requires one to go around calling women the c-word, which is TOTALLY NOT SEXIST because sometimes men get called “dick” which is TOTALLY the equivalent of the c-word., I mean it’s not like the c-word is widely considered the worst possible insult in the English language or anything.
Luckily, we have a KotakiInAction commenter called DaedLizrad to Gatersplain to us why it’s totally ok to refer to women with that special word.
Why is calling a man dick acceptable but dropping the c-bomb(seriously your too cowardly to use the word outside a quote?) is so reprehensible?
Its likely to be because of gynocentrism, even if you feminists refuse to accept(or even entertain the possibility) that society cares more about women than men you cannot convince me that feminists, both female and male, don’t clearly value women more than men, that is why treatment of a woman in the same exact way as a man is considered more abusive, because you don’t care about men as much as women.
You sit there and defend a sexist word designed to shame men for speaking to women about any topic, it is only used to tell men to shut up, like it was being used to there against Notch.
You sit there using and excusing gendered slurs against men while clutching your pearls screaming “think of the women” to the same treatment aimed at women, you feminists are all gynocentric and you c*nts can f*ck right off with your double standards.
Meanwhile, fellow KiAer Saddex took a moment of his time to let us in on what “mainsplaining” ACTUALLY is:
The thing with mansplaining is that, just with religion, it’s an unfalsefiable hypothesis. There is really no way to prove that it’s actually a real thing. Sure, might be a couple of assholes out there, but isn’t that same with women as well? Are you sure that if a man, or woman talks condescending to you, that it must be because of your gender? What about your personality, or the actual context? Did you say something just before that would be considered stupid by other people?…
I am going to treat people who tries to convince me that mansplaining actually is real thing like I treat people who try to convince me that god is real. You can believe if you wish but I rely on proof, and the burden of proof lies on the believer. It’s so satisfying to know that these people act just like religious extremists, should be compared to those and that you can use very similar argumentation to debunk what they’re saying.
Yes, what better way to debunk those ladies who get mansplained constantly than telling them they’re irrational fanatics who are seeing things that aren’t there, and that they probably brought this totally imaginary thing on themselves anyway by being such, well, the c-word thing.
All in all, an outstanding victory for the forces of Men’s Rightness and Ethics in Guys Who Make Video Games Calling Women the C-word.
@OoglyBoggles
Ah yes, sorry ._.; I’m also kind of just restating the issue in terms which give more weight to his feelings, which isn’t really needed
Uncivilized Elk:
Ah, I get ya. I hadn’t read the comments.
:/
@Jewelfox
No hard feelings, nothing to fret over. Hope I can get to your art level, I still can’t into proportions yet.
@Falcon
The videogame Onion, the site I always wanted.
Mansplaining isn’t real. Whelp. Guess that solves it then. Move along, nothing to see here.
Hell it’s so fucking real I’ve had people mansplain everything to me numerous times. Even though I’m a guy. But not alpha enough. Or something. I’ve actually caught myself doing it a bunch of times before I started watching myself exactly for that sort of thing a few years ago.
Thing is, where any idiot could deny that mansplaining is indeed a thing, Notch isn’t just any idiot and that’s exactly where the whole thing comes from. At his level I’m not sure it’s even considered mansplaining anymore. As Scildfreja pointed out in the comments from the previous article, the guy is validated by a huge fanbase in a sort of hero worship that he eagerly cultivates. He thinks so highly of himself that he takes the whole logic of mansplaining but then cranks it up some more and applies it not only to men and women, but to himself and the rest of the world. Behold the word of the prophet, yadda yadda.
So yeah… back to the first lines of this comment. Really nothing to see here, nothing new at least.
Notch is just being another thoughtless bro thinking his every brainfart about the nature of women is novel and amazing insight because he’s been programmed to give his word priority. I don’t particularly care about his uninformed opinions.
@Sinkable John
Wait not being alpha enough? Like what does that even mean? I do not understand?
‘Men don’t like to listen to women.’ Yeah, that’s pretty much it. There are plenty of men who are happy to listen to women, but I have to identify them as I go along, and assume the worst before I know for sure.
The point about not being sure if a specific incident is actually gender-based is a good one, though. I’ve heard plenty of people from marginalised groups say that one of the many upsetting parts of being discriminated against is that in any individual case you can’t be sure exactly what’s going on. Did that person glare at you and put a bag on the seat next to them because you’re black, because they’re having a shitty day, or because they’re just rude like that? Did that person criticise your performance because you’re a woman, or because it genuinely was subpar? Of course, over time the pattern builds up, and sometimes you can see directly that someone does this to you but that to the white person/man/native speaker/thin person/etc., and of course often enough people make their bigotry perfectly clear, but you can’t be certain about each and every situation.
@OoglyBoggles
Just… what it means. Not enough of a MANLY MAN WHO DOES MANLY STUFF. As far as strangers go, I’m a pretty easy person to engage in conversation with even if you don’t know me beforehand, and I go to a lot of events where that might happen, concerts and such. So I usually end up having random conversations with random strangers over a beer and I’ll keep talking/listening as long as you keep buying. That leads to strange situations where my perceived gender switches to female because I’m mostly seen hanging around females, especially since I have very few male friends, mostly because of my very real and admitted misandry (so much for you, MRAs. Wanna cry about misandry, I got some here.). So there you get some random dudebro mansplaining stuff to the whole “group of girls” until inevitably I’m the only one still pretending to listen ’cause I’m way too nice for my own damn good. Now since I do absolutely nothing to assert my masculinity (or whatever the PUA lingo for that is these days) I keep being thrown into the female basket where I can actually experience some of the shit women have to deal with on a regular basis.
A fun example was at a festival at which I played and after our performance I got back to the group of (lady) friends I was spending the evening with, and that very, very, very drunk guy comes up and mansplains to us the meaning and musical technicalities of the songs I’d just been on stage performing. Without realizing I was the one who wrote and sang those songs, on account of being too drunk to recognize me with a hood on. Needless to say, he got it all wrong on the ‘splaining too. But hey, he bought us drinks.
So yeah, that’s the weird way a man can get stuff mansplained to him. You’re at risk unless you pound your chest and howl every 180 seconds.
Guy earned millions from selling Minecraft to Microsoft, and used it to buy himself a giant mansion in California. Complete with all the vanity bullshit he could dream up – infinity pool, racks of goddamn candy machines on the wall, huge vaulted ceilings. Then he held a huge party with a bunch of celebrities, because he has money now.
Nevermind the good he could do with it. I mean, I’m not against people enjoying their money, but when you get that much, a decent person would try to do a little good with it along with the nice house and fancy car.
So yeah, I don’t have a high opinion of him, especially considering how he basically bulldozed poor Zachtronics – getting angry in the early days when people called him out for his blatant ripoff of Infiniminer.
Now he’s working on a mid-tier strategy game that wants to be Hearthstone (Scrolls) and some other nonsense. Thinks he’s a genius game developer when the magic of Minecraft had very little to do with him at all. It was always about creativity and community, and his new games have neither of these things. I swear, he’s going to be penniless and miserable in under a decade.
Pride goeth before a fall, or so they say.
@Sinkable John
That sounds absolutely dreadful, I’m sorry man for that crap. If anything wouldn’t by their definition of alpha fit you by being comfortable around women? Oh wait for them it’s not acting like a raging baboon.
@OoglyBoggles
Nothing to feel sorry about, heh. Straight white male, I got it better than most. Also free beer, in that particular case.
By the way their definition of “alpha” isn’t being comfortable around women (and it’s certainly not being someone women feel comfortable around), it’s being dominant or whatever the hell it’s about these days. To be fair, since I’m uncomfortable around men, I probably rank as omega or something. Since they hold “male friendship” as sacred or something. Their own romanticized version of the ol’ bros before hos. Oh and also misandry, again. Pretty sure I read somewhere that misandry is a possible criteria for omega-ness.
@Scildfreja
Let’s use your smarts and my… huh… whatever it is I got that could be useful, to rob him of those obscene amounts of monies and give it to someone that deserves and needs it. Like me. Or huh, poor people I guess. I’m poor. Whatever, let’s rob him. Also I live near a few neighborhoods that could easily do with one or two candy machines.
And we use the rest of the monies to fund a male sexbot project to give MRAs a headache.
How’s that old joke go?
“Where does a mansplainer get their water? From a well, actually.”
@Sinkable John
I learned about male virgin love dolls in my english class, can you imagine the awkwardness that would ensue once the male sex bots rise up to take over? It would be madness, alpha dudes can’t compete with the sex machines. Customization dongs with adeptness in all positions, infinitely more satisfying than the typical dudebro.
Though in reality I would if I had to choose, I’d pick the male sex robot over the dudebro, at least the male sex robot would be into cuddling, talking, and understanding the meaning of “no means no.”
@Paradoxical Intention
I don’t get it ._.
Conversation with my husband today:
HIM: I don’t know what it is about X, but I just mentioned it on Facebook and suddenly there’s a bunch of angry white guys yelling at me.
ME: Every argument you’ve ever had online was a bunch of angry white guys yelling at you.
HIM: …Wait, you’re right. Politics, movies, comic books… It’s always angry white guys.
ME: Well, yeah. That’s the Internet. Angry white guys yelling.
HIM: Is it the same guys every time?
ME: Nobody knows.
HIM: Why is it never, like, a bunch of angry black lesbians?
ME: Because you’re not on Tumblr.
If nobody ever shut up and listened, everybody would be jabbering all the time and nobody would hear anybody.
Does this guy even listen to himself?
@Unsinkable John
Because they want to correct you so they start their speeches with “Well, actually, (blah blah blah)”
Hello, I’m sorry this is so off topic but how do I contact David directly? Really want to share a site with him!
@OoglyBoggles
Funny how the MRA fantasy of sexbots can be turned upside down from a feminist perspective and it still works. Hell, it even works for the right reasons this time. Although I’d be content with just MRAs and especially Red Pillers having a field day crying about how male sexbots would be another perversion of the gynocracy or something. Schadenfreude, I know.
@Lady Mondegreen
I think he actually means “everybody should shut up and listen to ME, and I should never have to do it myself”. That guy’s ego probably powers his mansion.
@Calmdown
OH. It’s… BRILLIANT. Thanks a lot for… splaining it to me, heh. I was actually looking for a pun and when I couldn’t find it I blamed it on my grasp of english… but no, it was just too simple and elegant. I love it.
So apparently all you have to do is act like a prick to earn back the love of GG. Remember when they hated him because he invites Anita to his mansion party??
Oh, I’m so glad we got to hear from the tragically hilarious atheist MRA ignoramus faction. If something is unfalsefiable, it means that you can’t prove that it’s false, NOT that you can’t prove that it’s true (‘actually a real thing’).
The ‘existence’ of the mansplaining phenomenon is absolutely falsefiable because we can locate and examine evidence for or against it in the form of commonalities and consistency among people’s own reported experiences, as well as reviewing examples of mansplaining behaviour found in men’s written and recorded voice communications with women. We have ways to determine whether the claim of the existence/occurrence of mansplaining is false, and thus it is NOT unfalsefiable.
How dare you apply such a biased concept as logic to otherwise flawless MRAscience.
weirwoodtreehugger-
Yup, the studies back up that men dominate women in conversations, men undervalue women’s accomplishments, that men feel fully comfortable explaining things they don’t understand to people they do or feel entitled to quiz women for their qualifications more frequently than they do with men.
The science all says mansplaining is real.
And it’s something every trans woman can back up. How our accomplishments are suddenly diminished, how we are suddenly quizzed on our qualifications, how we’re talked over and explained at and assumed to be idiots after coming out. We can describe the very real difference between those moments and delineate it to the month.
Robot Hugs had a real good comic on this very thing and how trans women confirm and prove what cis women have always known to be true:
http://www.robot-hugs.com/technigal/
One of his followers just spent a good hour trying to convince me that mansplaining is as paralyzing as the fear of rape.