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Seems legit: Men’s Rights Redditors outraged by obviously fake Tumblr screenshot

Also seems legit
Also seems legit

Men’s Rights Activists spend a remarkable amount of their time getting worked up about things that aren’t real.

They rail against having to register for a draft that doesn’t exist. They complain about the injustice of “women and children first” even though that’s not now, and has never been, standard procedure for evacuating ships, planes or anything else that needs evacuating.

And then, of course, there are the faked screenshots, featuring feminists (some real, some imaginary) saying things that have never been said by any feminist ever — the phony Anita Sarkeesian Tweets that have inspired real waves of harassment directed at Sarkeesian, the made-up quotes attributed to famous feminists ranging from Gloria Steinem to Jessica Valenti, the phony entire Jezebel article posted to the Men’s Rights subreddit as a supposed “screenshot.”

To this ever-growing pile, let’s add this obviously fake “screenshot” of a Tumblr conversation that never happened, which drew more than 1100 outraged upvotes when it was recently posted to the Men’s Rights subreddit.

Obviously fake screenshot
Obviously fake screenshot

What are some of the indications that this is faker than fake?

  1. The comments all read as if they were written by the same person
  2. The comments from the “bisexual black woman” fit every straw feminist stereotype
  3. The language used by the “bisexual black woman” is off; what black bisexual feminist refers to “minorities” rather than, say, “women of color?”
  4.  The screenshot is obviously something put together in ten minutes using MS Paint
  5.  The screenshot is obviously something put together in ten minutes using MS Paint
  6.  The screenshot is obviously something put together in ten minutes using MS Paint

In case you are not convinced, here are some actual Tumblr screenshots, courtesy of TheCaptainObvious on Imgur.

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In the Men’s Rights subreddit thread devoted to the completely and utterly fake Tumblr conversation, the gullible MRAs piled irony atop irony as they responded to the fakery with credulous sincerity. Only a handful of commenters suggested the screenshot might be fake; most of them were downvoted to zero.

By contrast, someone called Clockw0rk garnered 100 points with a comment declaring the alleged SJW “Victim Narrative” to be “basically a godless religion.”

Belief is the most important part of any religion, as no religion is comprehensive enough to provide philosophical answers to every situation, so the primary creed of The Victim Narrative is to “Listen and Believe”. Claims made from white men are automatically subject to scrutiny and distrust while claims made from women and people of color are automatically more worthwhile. 

To quote someone who doesn’t exist, “please send help, irony is too thick to breathe.”

H/T — r/againstmensrights

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Kat
Kat
4 years ago

David, you buried the lede.

Dolphins on Mars?!

Just like NASA, I “really like dolphins” too! This discovery is making me reevaluate everything I knew!

I don’t want to complain, David, but burying the lede is shoddy journalism.

But I won’t harp on that ’cause I’m super excited: Dolphins on Mars! Dolphins on Mars! Dolphins on Mars!

PS: I know I’m probably asking for too much, but Did they find unicorns on Mars? Please say yes!

Bina
4 years ago

The Tubby Custard Machine dispenses “mechanically separated chicken”, a.k.a. pink goo.

I have officially lost it.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

Silly Kat. The unicorns frolic on Europa.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

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RosieLa
RosieLa
4 years ago

Wow. Tubby Custard should totally be a thing:

Friend: “How’s the irony over there?
me: “Too thick to breathe. As thick as Tubby Custard!

Kreator
Kreator
4 years ago

I’m not surprised by the discovery of dolphins on Mars, they’ve already been found in planets as far away as Vortex.
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Paws
Paws
4 years ago

Forget these MRA twits! I’m more interested in those dolphins on Mars! Unlike MRAs, dolphins are cute and serve an actual purpose on this planet. I love dolphins. =)

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

So that‘s where they went after the Vogons showed up.

Viscaria
Viscaria
4 years ago

Like Kat, I’ve come to express my great joy at the discovery of dolphins on Mars! On some level, I think we’ve always known.

Saphira
Saphira
4 years ago

Dolphins on Mars? Yay!!! There’s hope Star Whales really exist!

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Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

Bina

The Tubby Custard Machine dispenses “mechanically separated chicken”, a.k.a. pink goo.

I have officially lost it.

Not surprising. What do expect from monsters that worship a baby in the sun?

Clo
Clo
4 years ago

These guys are in STEM? Really? I want to see their diplomas or something now.

Ichthyic
Ichthyic
4 years ago

Forget these MRA twits! I’m more interested in those dolphins on Mars! Unlike MRAs, dolphins are cute and serve an actual purpose on this planet. I love dolphins. =)

I hate to break this to you then…

Dolphins be rapists…

http://www.deepseanews.com/2013/02/10-reasons-why-dolphins-are-aholes/

*cue outrage*

#notalldolphins!

dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

Whoever made the fake actually put in some decent effort; more than a 10 minute paint job, at least. They put in a solid effort in keeping all the discernible margins/paddings consistent. Except. The 2nd comment (starting with “Okay”) is 16px from the left border, whereas the other comments are 15px. And while it’s technically possible for a real Tumblr comment chain to be styled with that weird specificity, the chances are slim to none that anyone would actually do that.

ETA: While I was measuring out nitpicky spacings, I totally glossed over the fact that the right-hand margins are all fucky. Regardless of how they’re nested, the text in the comments should all wrap at the same spot. Also I’m 90% certain that the “please send help” line was added more recently than the image’s creation, given that it has significantly fewer compression artifacts around it than the rest of the text.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

This is inspiring me to peruse Literally Unbelievable. I haven’t done that in awhile.

Wow. A whole lot of people believed that 42 million people died during black Friday stampedes.

42 million.

People believed that number.

Wow.

And someone blamed it on Marxism.

Wut.

http://literallyunbelievable.org/page/2

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

My family spent part of a holiday Googling dolphin rape one time because my aunt didn’t believe me when I told her that dolphins are rapists.

Ah, togetherness.

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tesformes
tesformes
4 years ago

I find it bizarre that when people talk about American Indian cultures, and how they used every part of the animal, its portrayed as this wise, responsible thing they did, but when we do it now, using machines to extract meat we ordinarily wouldn’t be able to, its this horrible, disgusting practice. It feels really elitist and hypocritical.

Ichthyic
Ichthyic
4 years ago

42 million.

People believed that number.

Wow.

And someone blamed it on Marxism.

Wut.

we’re fucking doomed, aren’t we?

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@PI
Did you see this part??

Male ducks are some of the few birds to have penises (so do ratites), which become erect alarmingly fast (20 cm in ~1/3 second for some species).

20cm?? That’s 1/3 of the length of a mallard. Put those proportions on a human and Ron Jeremy would feel woefully inadequate.

Saphira
Saphira
4 years ago

I find it bizarre that when people talk about American Indian cultures, and how they used every part of the animal, its portrayed as this wise, responsible thing they did, but when we do it now, using machines to extract meat we ordinarily wouldn’t be able to, its this horrible, disgusting practice. It feels really elitist and hypocritical.

I think the difference is the processes used. American Indians might have very well had a use for most, of not all, parts of a bison, but they weren’t butchering their kills in a meat packing plant where they were under pressure to process as many carcasses as possible in the least amount of time. I remember reading in the book Fast Food Nation that the pressure on workers now days to butcher carcasses as quickly as possible has resulted in up to one out of every five carcasses ending up with salmonella or e. coli on them thanks to feces spills.

When you have to run extracted meat through a bath of ammonia to prevent feces particles carrying bacteria from contaminating your batch of meat, there’s a problem. It’s not the fact we’re using that little bit of extra meat that can be saved, but the fact we have to specially treat it with a chemical normally used for cleaning household surfaces to make it safe that disgusts people.

Shaenon
4 years ago

20cm?? That’s 1/3 of the length of a mallard. Put those proportions on a human and Ron Jeremy would feel woefully inadequate.

Male ducks grow temporary penises during the mating season. In some species, the penis is longer than the duck.

The above is true. Anita Sarkeesian saying, “Everything is sexist,” and a black queer feminist lady going HELL YEAH LET’S CALL NON-SEXIST THINGS SEXIST JUST TO HURT NICE MEN’S FEELINGS? Not true.

Tony! The Queer Shoop
4 years ago

I came for Martian dolphins and all I got was MRA shitwittery. I haz a disappoint.

Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

kupo

@PI
Did you see this part??

Male ducks are some of the few birds to have penises (so do ratites), which become erect alarmingly fast (20 cm in ~1/3 second for some species).

20cm?? That’s 1/3 of the length of a mallard. Put those proportions on a human and Ron Jeremy would feel woefully inadequate.

They also fall off and regrow the next mating season…
(Wow that Quora article was buttholish.)

Totally ninja’d
Shaenon
The above is true. Anita Sarkeesian saying, “Everything is sexist,”
That quote is based off a real one… but she was talking about being young and naive and learning about feminism and it was like a shiny new toy she wanted to share with everyone. They love using that quote but never posting the whole paragraph it was from.

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

@WWTH:
Now you’ve sent me down a Literally Unbelievable spiral too. Nooooo!

Fishy Goat
Fishy Goat
4 years ago

@WWTH Of course the sign language learning gorilla would never come out as gay! That’s silly!

A bonobo, however…. 😉

Sally
Sally
4 years ago

I love how bigots bash people for having “beliefs” and denying facts. They think all THEY believe in is bound to be FACTUAL MAN LOGIC while other people’s perspectives are mere “beliefs” and therefore fake.

They don’t know what belief means and they don’t see that evryone alive has them. Even atheist, since atheism is a fucking belief too. Omfg they are so arrogant i can’t!

Ben
Ben
4 years ago

dlouwe is right that it has some strangely exacting touches for a fake screenshot, but other aspects are strangely slapdash: the right margin isn’t consistent, making the first two comments look like their authors deliberately inserted line breaks; the nesting lines are clearly the default settings for the MS Paint line tool; and all the comments are inexplicably in italics that look slightly… off, even considering the heavy artifacting. Not to mention, as David says, the phrasing and composition of all the comments are identical and none of them hew toward the two Tumblr styles (perfect capitalization and punctuation or all/no capitalization with no punctuation).

It makes me think that faked tweets are the ideal medium for these forgers, because anything more causes these poor jerks to get bored and flub their own attempt.

Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

Ben

It makes me think that faked tweets are the ideal medium for these forgers, because anything more causes these poor jerks to get bored and flub their own attempt.

Except they usually forget the character limit.

occasional reader
occasional reader
4 years ago

Hello.

In France, the proverb says that when you want to kill your dog, you accuse it of being rabid (the disease, not just the behavior).
And if you are a MRA, you help that by forging some proofs, because the easier solution is always the best. Like to put some non-toxical foam around the mouth of the dog.
Upvote win !

Have a nice day.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

In other news, Charlie Hebdo continues to be racist garbage. Now calling muslim women supporters of terrorism because they forbid the poor author from admitting that the hijab makes him feel uncomfortable. Whining that you can’t criticize islam without being called islamophobic.

And no, it’s not part of an allegedly hilarious cartoon. What’s the difference between CH and, let’s say, The Blaze, again?

Mish
Mish
4 years ago

@SFHC thanks for the excellent Hitchhiker’s reference 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ fishy

Bonobos put the ‘pan’ in pansexual.

(Maybe only taxonomists will get that)

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
4 years ago

@imaginary petal : I don’t like Charlie Hebdo enough to buy it each time someone claim it’s a racist garbage journal, but the last three time I actually did that, it really very apparently wasn’t. What you say here might be anticlericalism or plain racism depending on how it’s done.

Maybe the new director, who isn’t exactly as good as the one killed one year ago, did have a meltdown.

I seriously don’t want to support hijab wearer ever, but that don’t mean putting them under a bus either. I classify them in the same bin as men in full islamic garbs if I see their visage, and as frankly insulting people if we can only see their eyes.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

Aw dang, I was hoping we’d find spiders on Mars.

Mars does have a dolphin petroglyph with a Masonic builder’s mark nearby (according to some overheated conspiracy buffs with really good magnifying glasses):

http://thecydoniainstitute.com/The-Dolphin-and-the-Mark.php

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

I don’t like Charlie Hebdo enough to buy it each time someone claim it’s a racist garbage journal, but the last three time I actually did that, it really very apparently wasn’t. What you say here might be anticlericalism or plain racism depending on how it’s done.

The editorial is in English and available on their website. Decide for yourself.

https://charliehebdo.fr/en/edito/how-did-we-end-up-here/

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Ohlmann

First of all, that’s not what a hijab is. You’re thinking of a niqab or a burqa.

Secondly, if you view the hijab as an expression of oppression, surely you wouldn’t blame the woman for being oppressed.

Thirdly, even if you did blame a woman for being oppressed, how the fuck does that equate to supporting terrorism.

Yeah, it’s racist trash.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

I classify them in the same bin as men in full islamic garbs if I see their visage …

… As Muslims? No, seriously, I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

The story about how Chicken McNuggets are made of whole ground-up chickens treated with ammonia that comes out of the grinder pink isn’t an invention – it’s a real story that’s been run through a game of Telephone until the details are garbled.

The real story is about “lean finely-textured beef” otherwise known as “pink slime.” There really is meat that is so laden with bacteria that they have to send it through a bath of ammonia vapor that still sometimes enters the human food supply. It just isn’t chicken, and McDonald’s was one of the first retailers to drop it as soon as the story came out about it. Whether this was ethics in game journalism food sourcing, or just haste to avoid being associated with something that makes people go ewwwww as soon as the story becomes public, I don’t know, but I know that I’ll eat McDonald’s hamburgers before I’ll eat ones from Wal-Mart.

mockingbird
mockingbird
4 years ago

I seriously don’t want to support hijab wearer ever, but that don’t mean putting them under a bus either. I classify them in the same bin as men in full islamic garbs if I see their visage, and as frankly insulting people if we can only see their eyes.

Yeah, that’d be a niqab.

And I’ve known some really cool people who cover, even some who cover and self-identify as feminists.

People act within their bounds of their experience and culture. What’s right for you isn’t necessarily what’s right for them – and I’m not talking from a standpoint of pure cultural subjectivism, either. I mean that people use their discernment to actively decide which actions are the most useful and effective for them and that understanding their choices can be difficult without having the benefit of their life experiences and milieus.

You’ll miss out on a good number of worthwhile interactions if you make snap judgements.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ mockingbird

People act within their bounds of their experience and culture.

When I was at school (back when dinosaurs ruled the earth) I was friends with a gang of Italian girls. Now they were real ‘rock chicks’. When we were out at weekends it was all denim and leather (and the smell of patchouli; do people still do that?). They were about as liberated as 16 year olds get.

But when we had Mass (catholic school) they’d all don black lace headscarves. They weren’t even religious; it was purely a cultural thing, a way of expressing their Italian heritage.

(They’re still into metal, just a bitless headbanging these days)

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
4 years ago

Bonobos put the ‘pan’ in pansexual.

🙂 🙂 🙂

Mish
Mish
4 years ago

FWIW re Muslim women & veiling: aside from my ‘hijabi’ friends who are definitely not women to be trifled with, in one of my gender studies courses we have a unit on feminism and multiculturalism, and one of the first things students do is read accounts by actual Muslim women. Some of these are deeply religious, some veil for more cultural reasons, some don’t veil – but their perspectives are incredibly diverse. I’m not ignoring the fact that it’s not a choice for some Muslim women, but the starting point has to be listening to what *they* actually think about it, surely. It’s always an eye-opener.
This particular course has a great emphasis on ditching the whole white-western-enlightened type outlook. Arguments like that in the Charlie Hebdo editorial linked to earlier seem to make the lazy assumption that ditching the western = superior viewpoint is the same thing as losing any critical perspective whatsoever, and I find that really insulting. Also this:

“The first task of the guilty is to blame the innocent. It’s an almost perfect inversion of culpability. From the bakery that forbids you to eat what you like, to the woman who forbids you to admit that you are troubled by her veil…”

Forbids, huh? Do these people actually think that they are being oppressed and controlled? Does this logic sound familiar? (not attacking C. Hebdo in particular, just this piece)
Apologies for the long, long comment, everyone 🙂

Kreator
Kreator
4 years ago

@Imaginary Petal:

In other news, Charlie Hebdo continues to be racist garbage. Now calling muslim women supporters of terrorism because they forbid the poor author from admitting that the hijab makes him feel uncomfortable. Whining that you can’t criticize islam without being called islamophobic.

(From reading the editorial linked to by Policy of Madness) Don’t forget how Muslim bakers also support terrorism by not putting ham or bacon in their sandwiches!

EDIT: partially ninja’d by Mish!

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Mish & Kreator

Yup, it’s the same form of argument we always hear from conservatives, in which they confuse “allowing people do to X if they want” with “OMG they’re forcing everybody to do X”. Insert same sex marriage, abortion, not celebrating christmas, etc etc etc.

throwaway
throwaway
4 years ago

Depending how bad things get on Earth those dolphins may want to go from Mars to Sirius to join their whale brothers and sisters.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
4 years ago

Bonobos put the ‘pan’ in pansexual.

Bravo.

***

Koko the sign language learning gorilla was once asked if she’d like to have a roommate, another female (not male for practical reasons).

She answered, “Yes please…but no Homo”.

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

I’ve Tumblr-ed for close to half a decade, and that post stood out as totally fake just by the content. I’ve seen all manner of shitposts and trainwrecks, and none of them were so… generic. It’s bland as Wonderbread with mayonnaise. I mean, no one added any quips or gifs, even.

And one doesn’t even need to make Tumblr posts in MS Paint–a clever person would sign up for Tumblr and make several blogs (it’s very easy to make a side-blog) to fake a post. I’ve done it myself (it was a Drarry thing–don’t judge me).

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
4 years ago

I love the niqab, it’s classy as heck and a great look, outside of its religious function. Sure there are issues with being *required* to wear it or a burqa or the like, of course, but forbidding it is a terrible, terrible answer, just as oppressive as requiring it.

Nothing surprising in that for anyone here though I think! I just like them and wanted to say so :3

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