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I say “tomato,” you say “feminism is cancer,” let’s call the whole thing off!

The dictionary definition of "tomato" didn't warn me about this!
The dictionary definition of “tomato” didn’t warn me about this!

Men’s Rights Activists and other antifeminists always hate it when feminists point them to dictionary definitions of feminism as “the advocacy of equal rights for men and women” (or similar) rather than “a seekrit cabal of evil spermjacking sluts that want to genocide all men,” which is what all MRAs apparently think feminism really is.

In the meme below, one anti-feminist tries to prove that dictionary definitions aren’t always right so there, and if the dictionary can get “tomato” wrong then it must have feminism wrong too!

tomatomeme

Aw, dude. You tried. But apparently you didn’t bother to check the dictionary definition of “tomato” first. Here’s what you get if you type the words “tomato definition” into Google.

to·ma·to təˈmādō/ noun 1. a glossy red, or occasionally yellow, pulpy edible fruit that is typically eaten as a vegetable or in salad. 2. the South American plant of the nightshade family that produces this fruit. It is widely grown as a cash crop, and many varieties have been developed.D’oh!

 

 

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GenJones
GenJones
4 years ago

@ sunnysombrera –

Neither have MRAs, but when was the last time they let something like reality change their thinking? If the misogynist echo chamber says it, then it must be true! THE ECHO CHAMBER HAS SPOKEN.

You said it, they have very little awareness of affairs outside their bubble. A while back I read a men’s rights article about Boko Haram that said:

The talking head said it almost as if a footnote: “…right, yeah, and they killed 59 boys a few months ago…”

WHAT!? Too often this is how it goes. Did you know? I didn’t. Not until the horrific news of the abduction of 276 Nigerian girls broke.

The comment section was full of people demanding to know why the media was only mentioning this now. I posted a comment where I searched for all media mentions of the schoolboys with a custom date range to limit it to the days following the event, and included snippets quoting the articles. The list was looooong, every major national and international journalism outlet, even an official statement from the Whitehouse. The language of the quotes were also very emotionally charged, the boys were not described impersonally or reduced to a number.

Then I did a similar search to find out how many mentions the story got on AVFM or any other men’s rights forums prior to the controversy they raised over the BringBackOurGirls campaign. Results= ZERO.

Until the fact that people were paying attention to feeeeemales woke them up, it simply didn’t exist to them.

Of course, I had been aware of this before the search, because I had actually been paying attention to the news at the time and spent a lot of time delivering pizza and listening to many long hours of discussion about Boko Haram on NPR.

Tizio
Tizio
4 years ago

@ JustAsking:

1) Many feminists speak up against unconsensual circumcision. Just Google “feminists against circumcision”.

2+3) You mean like when NOW and ACLU’s Women’s Rights Project carried a lawsuit in the ’80s all the way up to the Supreme Court to include women in the druft?
By the way, the ones who voted against the inclusion of women in the draft? Men. (Senate: 98% male at the time; House of Rep. 97% male; Sup. Court 100% male).

4) Citation needed for such a law existing.

5.1) First: prove that such an imbalance in incarceration rates is due to bias and not, say, women not committing crimes that would require incarceration as much as men.
5.2) Yes, women actually do get shorter sentences for the same crimes as men. This is because of male judges giving female culprits lighter sentences. Female judges? Fair towards both genders.
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Racial-and-Gender-Disparities-in-Prison-Sentences-The-Effect-of-District-Level-Judicial-Demographics.pdf
5.3) First: citation needed for men’s prisons having worse conditions than women’s ones. Second: assuming that the above is true… you want feminists to “protest better conditions in female prisons”. Not “protest so that men’s prisons are improved”, “protest so that women’s prisons are worsened“. Really? You want to go with that?

6) Citation needed for “children automatically are taken away from fathers”. And it’s false, btw – if we consider only the divorces that are brought to a famnily court – thus excluding the cases where the couple pacifically decides who will get child custody – men have a 50% chance of getting some kind of custody. If we restrict the search to the cases where the fathers actually bother to demand for full custody for themselves, we’re looking to a 50-70% success rate.
http://geekandmisandry.tumblr.com/post/89744329425/but-women-get-unfair-advantages-in-custody
http://geekandmisandry.tumblr.com/post/97104186185/jmdoman-geekandmisandry

7.1) Alimony is necessary. Do you have any idea how much time and work is needed to raise a kid? Answer: a lot. So much of that, it’s often necessary for one of the parents (let’s call it Stay-At-Home, or SaM) to stay at home so that the kids gets raised, pluss all the housework etc. The other parent (let’s call that Bread-Winner, or BW) gets to work and, more importantly, gets to pursue their career and obtain financial independency for themselves.
The SaM parent doesn’t have that independency, so they either rely on the BW parent or, in case of a divorce, on alimony, which is compensation for the financial independency SaM sacrificied in order to tkae care of the kid and the house – work that the BW parent beneficiates of, by the way. Take away alimony, and you put SaM in a situation where they cannot ever leave BW, even in case of an abusive marriage. Because then, they wouldn’t have the money to survive.
7.2) Likewise, child support is necessary. Raising a child costs money, and it’s difficult for a single person to get that much money by themselves – especially if they’re SaM parents. Again: take away child support, and the SaM parents won’t be able to escape unhappy or abusive marriages, because then the BW spouse can use the threat of kicking the SaM spouse out of their ouse and into poverty.
(Oh, and also: the average monthly payment for child support is WAY less than half the amount of money necessary to raise a child. And no, men aren’t thrown in prison if they are unable to pay child support for that day – in fact, child support is tailored depending on the financial resources of the person who has to pay it.)

You want women to be able to support their children/ex-spouses as much as men do? Tear down gender roles that dictate that women have to be SaM and men have to be BW. And while you’re at it, stop trying to kick out women from “male” remunerative jobfields, and stop devaluing every “female” jobfield.

Luzbelitx
4 years ago

@Kat

Thanks and yes, it was. It was scary, then it was over but the pain began, now a few days later I’m slowly going back to normal life.

Too much going on in my life to post a lot here, but I’ll drop some words on the next open thread I catch…

GenJones
GenJones
4 years ago

Plus the working parent gets to add that time to their resume and advance their career, while the stay at home parent is SOL and has to start on the bottom when they return to the workplace. That’s why demanding equal contributions in housework and parental involvement are just as relevant to social equality.

ParseThePotatoes
ParseThePotatoes
4 years ago

Under ‘Thank Katie for Small Favors,’ at least David didn’t run that tomato aspic picture through Google Deep Dream, like he had been doing a couple months back.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Where are all the feminists protesting the 20:1 male to female incarceration rates….

Your other shit has been address more than adequately by others, but I’ll take this one: carceral justice is heavily slanted toward incarcerating men over incarcerating women because of racism and patriarchy. When boys are raised to believe that their manhood is defined by their paycheck (which is a patriarchal idea), and then crushed into the poverty pipeline so that no paycheck is possible, crime results. Black communities are disproportionately affected by this because: racism.

There is also a strong motive for a racist justice system to push for felony charges for literally everything, because many states disenfranchise felony offenders for life.

Where are the MRAs protesting this? Where are the MRA marches against lifelong disenfranchisement for felony offenders? This is a problem that affects men far more than it affects women. Seems like it’s more of a men’s rights issue than a feminist one.

women getting shorter sentences for the same crimes…. and BETTER conditions in female prisons?

Not sure why feminists ought to be objecting to that? Not sure why you ought to be, either. Your complaint should be that conditions in men’s prisons are too harsh and should be improved, not that conditions in women’s prisons are too cushy and should be degraded.

Of course, the fact that you don’t care if men’s conditions are improved but you care a whole lot about dragging women down into worse conditions tells me all I need to know about how much you actually care about men’s rights. Namely, how little you care about improving men and how much you care about shitting on women.

Just Asking!

Just JAQing off? Seems legit.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

ParseThePotatoes:

Under ‘Thank Katie for Small Favors,’ at least David didn’t run that tomato aspic picture through Google Deep Dream, like he had been doing a couple months back.

What, like this?
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dlouwe
dlouwe
4 years ago

So if the MRM is really about advancing the rights of men…….

Where are all the MRAs protesting against the routine surgical mutilation of infant boys in the US?

Where are all the (USA-based) MRAs demanding the end of selective service?

Where are all the MRAs protesting against the 20th century wars which have (allegedly) killed 300 MILLION male soldiers, marines, seamen, etc? (Not to mention all of the civilian casualties; men, women, and children)

Where are all the MRAs protesting unequal domestic violence law that (allegedly) requires the removal or incarceration of the MAN in all incidents of domestic violence?

Where are all the MRAs protesting the classist and racist justice system that leads to staggeringly high incarceration rates for men – particularly men of colour?

Where are all the MRAs protesting the (not actually) unequal family courts where children automatically are(n’t) taken away from fathers?

Where are all the MRAs protesting alimony and child support payments? (Though how this would advance the rights of men I haven’t the foggiest)

Answer: Nowhere, because the MRM doesn’t do shit. Whining about it on the internet doesn’t count. Whining at feminists to do your activism for you double doesn’t count.

Bina
4 years ago

@JustAnnoying!:

Yeah, sure. You’re really “just asking”, but it sure sounds like a harangue from where I sit. Mainly because I’ve already heard it a thousand times, and it’s so stale it’s not worth even trying to engage with. Can’t you guys debate WITHOUT resorting to copy-pasted crap that we’ve all seen before and are dead tired of debunking?

Also: Gish Gallop. Look it up. And kindly don’t do that here again.

(But I bet you’re too cowardly to even come back and read any of these responses anyway. I mean, aren’t you all?)

PS: Please change your name to JustBoring, because that’s what your arguments are.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

women getting shorter sentences for the same crimes…. and BETTER conditions in female prisons?

I wanted to address this bit here with a bit of fact-checking, because I believe that JAQingOff has a bit of an incorrect assumption going on here about how awesome women’s prisons must be to suggest that we should be talking about ways to make them more inhumane to create parity with men’s prisons, the poor ignorant turnip.

Here’s an article written by a woman who spent 18 months in a women’s prison for drug trafficking.

Here’s another article about the unsanitary conditions in California women’s prisons

Here’s an article where a woman talks about her daughter having to give birth in an Arizona prison. (Graphic gorey details in this one)

Oh, hey, California banned forced sterilization of female inmates in 2014.

Yeah, we totes should be talking about how we should make things more awful for women in prison because “equality” amirite?

ImaginaryPetal
ImaginaryPetal
4 years ago

@skiriki

…NO

Orion
Orion
4 years ago

@Skiriki,

David stopped using Deep Dream because multiple commenters with trypophobia said the pictures made them very uncomfortable. Please don’t post them.

ParseThePotatoes
ParseThePotatoes
4 years ago

@Skiriki, thanks. I didn’t want to sleep tonight, anyways.
@ImaginaryPetal, @Orion, my apologies – knowing why he stopped, I should have said something about “Please don’t do it for him.”

Just Asking!
4 years ago

As usual feminists only want to discuss when they have overwhelming numbers, so I will pick JUST ONE poster and respond. Frankly most of you are too fact-free to be worth my time, but at least Freemage TRIED to make a logical argument.

Gonna address these three together. Feminists are not out protesting against every bad thing under the sun. They are, instead, focusing on those issues that affect women.

Feminism is about for equality but only for issues that affect women? THAT’S NOT WHAT EQUALITY MEANS. This is a tactic admission that “feminism = equality” the whole point of the blog post, is indefensible bullshit.

That said, feminists do not support cosmetic male infant circumcision, and would, in fact, generally support efforts to ban it.

Nope feminists make a lot of noise about female circumcision, but not a peep about male circumcision. So much for equality.

The draft is more nuanced. There’s two different common schools of feminist thought:
1: Pacifist feminists generally oppose conscription entirely.
2: Non-pacifist feminists agree that women should be subject to conscription equally.

Note that both of these are positions of equality.

Finally, feminists support the right of women in the military to serve in combat roles. It’s been men who’ve been resisting that change.

Where are these anti-draft feminists? I haven’t seen them. Were they the ones handing white feathers to boys as young as 12 to encourage them to go fight and die in the Great War? WHOOPS…..

The fact remains women got the “right” to vote a century ago but still can’t be drafted. They have the privileges of citizenship without the obligations and duties. They don’t have skin in the game. Men fight and die in the wars that women vote for.

So much for equality…….

Care to cite an actual law that does this?

Sorry kid but I won’t do your homework for you. It’s called Google look into it.

You’ll need to clarify what you’re looking for here. Generally, no, feminists aren’t going to be out there demanding longer sentences for women convicted of theft or what have you. That would be stupid.

So much for equality…….

However, they also aren’t demanding that men receive longer sentences than women; that’s a product of a racist society that’s decided the best thing to do with a large number of poor young black men is lock them up on the flimsiest pretexts available, so as to ensure that they cannot get out of the poverty trap.

Of course you wouldn’t be a liberal if you didn’t bring racism into every discussion for NO REASON. Who was talking about race???? Not me. Is giving men longer sentences than women okay if they’re WHITE men??

Also blacks can speak for themselves thank you very much. They don’t need your white knighting to save them.

Again, your ignorance of the law post-1950 is rather appalling. Men can be awarded alimony, and if they do get custody, can seek child support payments as well. The reason that this is comparatively rare is because society pushes women into lower-paying jobs, making it far less likely that a woman is going to have the superior income. As noted above, she’s also more likely to get custody because the man isn’t interested in it.

Society doesn’t “push” women into any job and the “pay gap” is a myth. Men earn more because they work LONGER and HARDER. Go to any white collar employer and he’ll tell you, OFF THE RECORD, that women simply work less time and shorter hours. Sorry but it’s just a fact. I work in STEM and I see it all the time. Friday at 5 the girls run for the door. The men stay and work late because we know we will be rewarded for it in the long run.

Modern western women are also flighty and prone to quitting with very little notice. Sorry but I met the perfect man and we’re moving to LA together! Whoops I got knocked up so I’m quitting. (But give me 9 months paid maternity leave!!)

Sorry but the free market has spoken. Girls get MORE attention in school, and more women go to college, but STEM jobs are 98% men. If you want to change that, instead of screaming “MISOGYNIST!!” and demanding ever more quotas, why not address the culture of female entitlement that feminism actively aids abets and promotes?

On a personal note Freemage you seem like a bright kid if a bit naive. So let me help you out with a little secret the feminists don’t want you to know: Kowtowing to feminism will not get you laid. Women scorn and mock “male feminists.” They hate you and want you to die a virgin. Trust me dude they will never even let you sniff it.

Tragedy of the Commas
Tragedy of the Commas
4 years ago

Just asking questions“, you know? Just JAQin’ it anonymously online. It’s only way I can feel significant; JAQin’ off while being a PRATT.

@ SJA

And some very very few feminists (TERFS come to mind) do genuinely hate men. But they are a very, very small minority and most do not hate men at all whatsoever.

Speaking only from my experience and what I’ve seen, there’s a lot more hate for men from men (self-labeled feminist or not).

Ironically, those very few woman feminists you name don’t even hate men all the time. It seems like plenty of TERFs love cis men if they’re as transphobic as they are. Go figure.

masque d'étoiles
masque d'étoiles
4 years ago

@dlouwe – That response was golden.

@GenJones: This:

The talking head said it almost as if a footnote: “…right, yeah, and they killed 59 boys a few months ago…”

WHAT!? Too often this is how it goes. Did you know? I didn’t. Not until the horrific news of the abduction of 276 Nigerian girls broke.

is a telling example of what I call solipsistic denial. In other words, “If it wasn’t on my radar, it never happened, and any suggestion/evidence/search engine results demonstrating that it did are part of a vast feminsit conspiracy/coverup/misandrist practical joke.”

It’s frightening how many people reflexively rely on this worldview (although maybe not defining it as explicitly feminist and misandrist) instead of understanding that they do not possess the totality of information, or that new knowledge sometimes supplants the old instead of reinforcing it, and that’s okay.

Oh. And I’m a feminist with an uncircumcised adult son. Did James’ brain just explode?

Social Justice Atheist
Social Justice Atheist
4 years ago

@Tragedy of the Commas

Yep. A lot of them hate men but their hatred for trans people often overshadows that by quite a lot.

Social Justice Atheist
Social Justice Atheist
4 years ago

Meant to put *cis men.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

I appreciate skiriki making the mistake before I did–I honestly had missed David’s reason for no longer using it, and just figured he’d gotten tired of the bit. So I was about to do the same thing, in the same (intended to be) lightly humorous vein. Obviously, we don’t want to actually set off folks’ phobias, so… yeah, I’m gonna stick that one back in the box, then.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

I didn’t mean to sound angry. 🙂

But yeah, those pictures make me feel very uncomfortable.

Bina
4 years ago

Oh, hey, California banned forced sterilization of female inmates in 2014.

That long ago, eh? And when were MEN ever forcibly sterilized in prison? JustTrolling?

YoureAnAsshole
YoureAnAsshole
4 years ago

Affirmative consent was invented by man-hating women to enact the same level of life destruction upon men through dating that women enjoy through divorce (forced wealth transfer from men to women).

As a man, the worst of all time contracts you could possibly sign would be the marriage contract. Affirmative consent was invented by man-hating women to ensure you married them after having sex. The consequence of not marrying her after sex is of course your life annihilation – through false rape/sexual assault allegations.

At no other point in history has a contract been written to so badly screw one gender over the other.

Do you know what happens if you’re falsely convicted of DV, rape or sexual assault? You’re unemployable. Do you know what it means to be unemployable? It means you’ll likely take your own life or starve to death. Do you know what’s necessary to be convicted of DV, rape or sexual assault? A woman’s word alone.

Women are your deadliest enemy. Women are preying mantises. Any man that tells you otherwise is on his way to his own destruction.

Never give a woman the ring of power or any power over your life. Never give a woman any legal, social or financial power over your life.

Women work tirelessly to make up ways to forcefully transfer wealth from men to women. Don’t be a woman’s sucker. Don’t be a white knight’s sucker.

I say feminism is cancer because feminism is cancer.

GenJones
GenJones
4 years ago

As usual, feminists only want to discuss when they have overwhelming numbers

“Tch, how typical, I posted on a forum and actually received replies.”

Where are these anti-draft feminists? I haven’t seen them. Were they the ones handing white feathers to boys as young as 12 to encourage them to go fight and die in the Great War?

Oh, I see you elected to ignore the posts that already addressed this, gave you names of organizations and even linked you to a whole book on the subject.

Oh and by the way, it was not feminists who were handing out white feathers. It was an official military propaganda campaign that was founded by Admiral Charles Fitzgerald, who appropriated enlistees from the Women’s Army Auxiliary Corps and gave them new orders to do it. Meanwhile, feminists were protesting the war. You can learn all about it by going back and actually reading the information people already spelled out for you.

Social Justice Atheist
Social Justice Atheist
4 years ago

My gosh there are a lot of trolls on this thread. Anyone wanna address I’mAnAsshole? I don’t have the energy right now.

GenJones
GenJones
4 years ago

Affirmative consent was invented by man-hating women to ensure you married them after having sex

Yes, let’s all listen to the guy who doesn’t know the difference between getting someone’s consent to have sex and shotgun marriages. He really sounds like someone who knows what he’s talking about.

Do you know what happens if you’re falsely convicted of DV, rape or sexual assault? You’re unemployable.

At a school or daycare maybe. You already know everything, but maybe you should actually look up what the hiring laws are concerning ex-cons and sex offenders.

Do you know what’s necessary to be convicted of DV, rape or sexual assault? A woman’s word alone.

LOL! Tell it to the mass of evidence and conviction rate that says otherwise pal. Even cases with physical evidence of unlawful entry and injuries are routinely dismissed. Even in a case where the police responding to screams caught the guy in the act and found his fingerprints on a pried off window screen it got dismissed because the victim was known for going to establishments that serve (GASP!) alcohol!
“A woman’s word alone”? Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Just Asking!

Where are these anti-draft feminists? I haven’t seen them. Were they the ones handing white feathers to boys as young as 12 to encourage them to go fight and die in the Great War? WHOOPS…..

You seem so eager to learn! So here are women’s pacifist groups, some of them already named by other commenters.

Perhaps you already know that no one has been drafted in the United States since 1973. So it’s possible that these groups don’t focus on the draft, especially the US draft. But they definitely are women’s pacifist groups. And without war–which is their aim–there is no need for a draft.

I obtained this information quite easily through a Google search:

Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom
http://wilpfus.org/

Code Pink
http://www.codepink.org/splash?splash=1

Another Mother for Peace
http://anothermother.org/about

Women in Black
http://womeninblack.org/

Women Against War–The Old Women’s Project
http://www.oldwomensproject.org/women_war.htm

And for a good read, there’s Testament of Youth, a harrowing autobiography by English pacifist Vera Brittain, one of the first women admitted to Oxford. When World War I came, she abandoned her studies to become a nurse in England’s armed services:

http://www.amazon.com/Testament-Youth-Penguin-Classics-Brittain/dp/0143039237

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@YoureanAsshole (what an apt name to respond to): If you don’t want to marry women, then don’t marry women.

None of us give a shit if you don’t want to get married. No one cares.

Now that that’s out of the way:

Affirmative consent was invented by man-hating women to enact the same level of life destruction upon men through dating that women enjoy through divorce (forced wealth transfer from men to women).

Source please.

In the meantime, Affirmative consent doesn’t mean what you think it means.

And here’s an article explaining why lawmakers put this into effect.

Of course, I don’t expect you to read it, nor do I expect you to do anything but dismiss it as part of your little conspiracy to somehow stealing money from men via “forced wealth transfer”.

As a man, the worst of all time contracts you could possibly sign would be the marriage contract. Affirmative consent was invented by man-hating women to ensure you married them after having sex. The consequence of not marrying her after sex is of course your life annihilation – through false rape/sexual assault allegations.

Oh, you mean like old-timey shotgun weddings where a father would hold a gun up to a man and force him to marry his daughter if he “deflowered” her (or got her pregnant)?

You could thank feminism for helping society come to terms with the fact that women want to be sexually liberated and want to have NSA sex just like men already do, I suppose, but I wouldn’t want facts to get in the way of your straw there.

I love it when these manospherian types come in here with something men used to force women to do and then blame women for it. It’s totes hilarious.

At no other point in history has a contract been written to so badly screw one gender over the other.

You could have been a woman a hundred years ago where you could be legally raped by your spouse (which laws were finally passed to prevent it in 1993 in the US.), you could be beaten for anything and everything (and if your husband didn’t beat you, he was seen as less of a man for not doing so), and you were expected to cater to his every whim and if you were Catholic, god help you because divorce wasn’t an option.

I would say that both men and women have it better nowadays, because there are more viable outs to marriage and ways to get away from abusive partners. Of course, men need a bit more help because of toxic masculinity saying that men aren’t men if they ask for help (or get beat up by a woman), but we’re still working on that.

Of course, if you’re worried about getting into an abusive relationship, Asshole, then by all means, just don’t get married or date or anything! That’d sure show us feminists, amirite?

Do you know what happens if you’re falsely convicted of DV, rape or sexual assault? You’re unemployable. Do you know what it means to be unemployable? It means you’ll likely take your own life or starve to death. Do you know what’s necessary to be convicted of DV, rape or sexual assault? A woman’s word alone.

So Bill Cosby’s just an anomaly then? Because I’ve seen over 50 women accuse him of rape, and he’s still being defended by people who claim that those women are “Drug whoring star fuckers“, Liars, and a bunch of other garbage.

And no, it’s never just “a woman’s word alone” that convicts men of domestic violence, rape, or sexual assault.

I was sexually abused by a family member from when I was twelve until I was fourteen. You know what happened? I told several people what was going on, and nothing happened until my boyfriend at the time took me to see the school counselor. Not a one of them did anything about it. I was dismissed as a “hysterical teenager who wanted to get back at her parents”, regardless of if they offered to help or not. It was always my word against his, and I was never believed until my ex listened to me.

Then there was two weeks of investigations where I was removed from my house and had to go live with a foster family, he was arrested and questioned, and I had to go to a rape crisis center to get checked out. Then there were two trials, both of which lasted a week, and where I had to go on a stand for what felt like hours at a time and recount all the traumatizing details of what I went through word for word with a prosecutor berating me for every inconsistency, even though I was a terrified teenager who only wanted to break down and cry and who didn’t want to be there in a room full of strangers telling the story of being raped and molested night after night after night.

And after all of that, I managed to get a conviction twice.

And you know what that fucker did after he was put away? He harassed my mother via his new prison pen-pal girlfriend on facebook, and he sent his biological daughter disgustingly sexually explicit letters asking her shit like “What kind of underwear do you wear for your boyfriend?” once she was a teenager (He was put away when she was eight.)

Not to mention there are so many fucking cops out there who berate rape victims and ask them shit like “What were you wearing?” “Where were you going?” “Who were you with?” “Were you drinking?” “Did you flirt with this person?”

And you know what else? There’s also tons of untested rape kits just lying around thanks to cops who think that women lie about being raped and just “regret having sex”, so guess who didn’t get convicted on “a woman’s word alone”? A shit-ton of possible rapists, because cops didn’t even bother to follow through with their fucking jobs.

I’d be impressed with the patience of any woman who would put up with your seething, putrid garbage mentality for five minutes. You’re better off alone, and we’re better off without you.

And the idea that any woman would want you and all your toxic bullshit, even if it’s just solely for your money, is outright laughable. Don’t flatter yourself.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Sorry kid but I won’t do your homework for you. It’s called Google look into it.

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weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

Never give a woman the ring of power or any power over your life.

You’re right, our eye of Sauron vaginae are really hungry for the ring.
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So sad that I’m happy to see a troll that isn’t a false equivalency sealion type.

Til that rape doesn’t exist, it’s just something women made up to try and blackmail a man into giving a marriage proposal. I thought that’s what spermjacking was for. Where was I when this change was made? I didn’t get the memo! No wonder I’m single. I was digging through dumpsters for used condoms when I supposed to be making false rape accusations to snag a man!

Now I just feel silly.

ETA: Speaking of silly, I hope the edit fixes the strikethrough mammoth attack!

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

Women are your deadliest enemy. Women are preying mantises. Any man that tells you otherwise is on his way to his own destruction.

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Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@YoureAnAsshole

Women are your deadliest enemy. . . .

I say feminism is cancer because feminism is cancer.

Nah. No way are women my enemy. Women–and feminism–actually work to protect women from the patriarchy. It’s a tough fight. But we’re up to the challenge.

Feminism is cancer? Nope. Feminism promotes health.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

@Kat: In fact, don’t many feminists encourage men to seek medical attention and to get help when they need it instead of the MAYUNLY thing to do (pour whiskey on it and put some duct tape on it, it’ll go away on its own! And don’t cry like a wuss in the meantime!)?

Shaenon
4 years ago

My gosh there are a lot of trolls on this thread. Anyone wanna address I’mAnAsshole? I don’t have the energy right now.

Meh, it’s pretty boring. Sadly, we’ve already seen countless dudes who are really, really mad that sex has to be consensual.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Mammotheers, thanks for your cogent–and often detailed–responses to questions & accusations.

I learn so much from you!

Social Justice Atheist
Social Justice Atheist
4 years ago

It really is sad that this would be considered a smaller amount of trolls compared to a lot of other threads. Sad, but not surprising. Ugh.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention
Yep, feminists urge men to get help for all kinds of wounds–physical, emotional, and psychic.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

As usual feminists only want to discuss when they have overwhelming numbers,

We didn’t come to you. You came to us. Don’t come into a blog full of feminists, make an anti-feminist post, and then whine when people reply. What did you expect?

Feminism is about for equality but only for issues that affect women? THAT’S NOT WHAT EQUALITY MEANS. This is a tactic admission that “feminism = equality” the whole point of the blog post, is indefensible bullshit.

A group fights for equality because they are marginalized in some way. It’s not necessary to fight for the equality of a non-marginalized group. That’s why it isn’t done. Feminism fights for equality for women because we don’t have equality. Is this so hard to understand?

Apparently so.

The fact remains women got the “right” to vote a century ago but still can’t be drafted.

Why is “right” in scare quotes?

I see what you’re mad about now. Men don’t have the responsibility of fighting against the draft even though it effects them. It’s feminist’s job. Even though feminists didn’t put the draft in place. Men did. It’s not good enough that peace and justice movements have always been chock full of feminists. Our sole focus must be on what you want it to be, or it’s misandry.

What have you done to get rid of the draft or make it gender neutral? I’m going to take a wild guess. Whining on the internet is all you’ve ever done.

Of course you wouldn’t be a liberal if you didn’t bring racism into every discussion for NO REASON. Who was talking about race???? Not me. Is giving men longer sentences than women okay if they’re WHITE men??

Also blacks can speak for themselves thank you very much. They don’t need your white knighting to save them.

That point whooshed over your tiny little head, didn’t it? Nobody is saying white men should be discriminated against in the criminal justice system. We’re saying that the gender disparity exists because poor men of color are disproportionately targeted for arrests and long sentences. And you can shut your trap with that “white knighting” BS. The reason white liberals even know about this issue is thanks to the hard work of civil rights activists who have brought this issue to the forefront. That includes black women, BTW. Like Michelle Alexander who wrote The New Jim Crow. Don’t pretend like this is an issue white liberals made up to look politically correct.

Kowtowing to feminism will not get you laid. Women scorn and mock “male feminists.” They hate you and want you to die a virgin. Trust me dude they will never even let you sniff it.

Let me guess, you pulled a Dennis Reynolds and pretended to be a male feminist for a day to pick up slutty pro choice liberal chicks. But they saw through your bullshit right away and you got nowhere. Plenty of genuine feminist/ally men do just fine with feminist women because they are actually good people and not just performing feminism to try and get laid. And no, woman feminists have not formed secret clubs where we get together and mock those male feminist suckers.

Also, unless you’re a dog, stop trying to sniff women’s crotches. That’s a little creepy.

AW
AW
4 years ago

Sorry kid but I won’t do your homework for you. It’s called Google look into it.

Wow. You actually managed to to use the phrase that helps define the Gish Gallop. If only you were able to follow your own advice.

Women are your deadliest enemy. Women are preying mantises. Any man that tells you otherwise is on his way to his own destruction.

I’ll tell you otherwise. Feminism has enriched my life. My wife has an amazing career in which she’s invested. I don’t ever have to question my choice to cut down on my work hours to spend more time with my wonderful child. Thanks, feminism, for giving me–a man–more options. Thanks for giving everyone more options.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

Sorry! I tried to make the image to a link, but for some reason it kept failing! I won’t do it again. 🙂

Oh hey! New toys in thread! Can I play too!? I could spray them with catnip and drop my kitties on them.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

Skiriki: Honestly, I think they’re more deserving of a spray bottle full of your kitties’ urine. They aren’t deserving your cats’ attention, even with claws.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

Freemage: I dunno, I mean Didi is a mean biter when she feels weirded out. She has even bit me, the Hand That Feeds Her, though that was on her scale a “gentle nibble to tell me to stop touching her tummy, two and half strokes maximum per customer”. Her teeth are like needles and I got two round holes on my wrist even a week after.

What about throwing clumping kittylitter with litterbox scoopers as launching devices? Like Angry Birds, except… well.

dslucia
dslucia
4 years ago

Wow, JAQ couldn’t keep his sealion act up for even two posts? Poor show, even GribbleGoobers can sometimes do better than that.

occasional reader
occasional reader
4 years ago

Hello.

I say feminism is cancer because feminism is cancer.

I think your argument is invalid because feminists are feminists all the year long, not only from June 22th to July 22th.
See, i can make assertions like you. Because i can.

Have a nice day.

Just Asking!
Just Asking!
4 years ago

Looks like Freemage isn’t up to rebutting my argument. That’s okay I accept your surrender and implicit admission that I am correct. Better luck next time kiddo.

Then again, I cheated by having the facts on my side… feminists hate that!

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
4 years ago

Just Asking! wrote:

Where are all the feminists protesting unequal domestic violence law that require the removal or incarceration of the MAN in all incidents of domestic violence…… even when it was a woman hitting a man?

Freemage wrote:

Care to cite an actual law that does this?

Just Asking! wrote

Sorry kid but I won’t do your homework for you. It’s called Google look into it.

Funny how just three paragraphs earlier (or four, if you count the quote) you replied to Freemage’s assertion about anti-draft feminists with this:

Where are these anti-draft feminists? I haven’t seen them.

So why does Freemage have to “do your homework for you” when he makes a claim, and also “do his own homework” when you make a claim?

It’s almost like you can’t produce any examples to support your claims because your claims don’t actually have any evidence to support them. You know, like you’re just bullshitting and getting defensive when someone calls you on it.

Shocker.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
4 years ago

occasional reader wrote:

I think your argument is invalid because feminists are feminists all the year long, not only from June 22th to July 22th.

But the very next month, feminism is leo!

Checkmate, cat-loving feminazis!

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Mate check, femi-loving cat Nazis!

Ha, ha, three can play at that game!

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

After feminism is done being Leo, it becomes Virgo. Virgo is “the virgin.” Does that mean feminism is incel?

PocketNerd
PocketNerd
4 years ago

Thus Spake Zaraweirwoodtreehugger:

After feminism is done being Leo, it becomes Virgo. Virgo is “the virgin.” Does that mean feminism is incel?

Clearly those wicked ffeeemale ffeminists snuck Virgo into the zodiac just to mock poor oppressed men who don’t get as much sex as they deserve!

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

I thought Virgo was the female virgin; that is, the only acceptable form of woman because she hasn’t yet been defiled by touching other men?

I haz a confuz. Redpill folks must be really smart, because keeping track of this stuff is haaaaaard.