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Thunderf00t rebuts charges he commands a hate mob by unleashing a hate mob on a woman who made this charge

Thunderf00t: Pleased with himself
Thunderf00t: Quite pleased with himself

Phil Mason, better known online as Thunderf00t, is a scientific researcher and YouTube bloviater who’s turned his hate-crush on video game critic Anita Sarkeesian into a surprisingly lucrative part-time job; his seemingly unending stream of YouTube videos attacking Sarkeesian, many of which have drawn hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube, have without a doubt contributed mightily to the harassment directed against her by the online mob known as #Gamergate.

Now Mason is trying to defend himself against charges that he has become the de facto leader of a vast hate mob that harasses Sarkeesian and other women … by encouraging his followers to harass a woman who charged him with exactly this.

And a good number of Mason’s 400,000 YouTube followers have taken him up on this challenge, flooding the Yelp page of the business the woman runs with her husband with fraudulent one-star reviews and besieging her and her family business with angry and harassing phone calls (at least one of which the perpetrator has put online).

The story of this particular debacle began this past January when the YouTuber who calls herself Laughing Witch sent a letter to Mason’s employer, accusing the YouTuber of harassing Sarkeesian and other women and repeatedly suggesting that he and his followers were a bunch of Nazis. Her email was part of a letter-writing campaign by a number of feminist Youtubers who hoped their letters would get Mason fired from his research job.

Mason, who apparently faced no repercussions from the letter-writing campaign, decided last week to retaliate against Laughing Witch — real name Jennifer Keller. He posted a video about Keller’s letter, following up with a second video posting her name as well as screenshots from the web page of Porcelain Tub Restoration, the company she runs with her husband.

While Tunderf00t didn’t explicitly command his army to harass Keller and her husband, he suggested to his supporters that they post their thoughts about her on the business’s Yelp page — and they did, cratering the company’s rating with literally hundreds of fake one-star reviews.

Yelp has been removing the most obviously fake ones, as well as those referencing her letter about Thunderf00t, but many remain up as “not recommended” (in other words, questionable) reviews, including a number of clearly trollish ones accusing Keller of being a Nazi.

1.0 star rating 10/22/2015 When they came to remodel, i noticed their dismay i had a menorah, i ignored it and told them where my bathroom was. At first i thought it was my paranoia, but then...they starting putting the tiles in such a manner that swastikas were drawn in between the tiles. Then they dropped a very expensive soap and it broke, when i reacted, a short haired woman said: 'What? Is that you granma?' When they finished the work in the bathroom i was less than pleased, i wanted them to leave my house. They proceded to where my menorah was (I should mention i'm not jewish, it seemed practical for a quake or something) and the short haired elderly woman broke it and groped me, saying 'I haven't eaten kosher for a while'. At this point i told them to leave, and the woman exposed herself to me while yelling verses of mein kampf, saying Hitler had a point, but he should have killed all men as well, she refered to Hitler as the feminist who never was, a lonely tear drop running down her face. They left, well, she defecated on my garden and then they left. It would have been fine but the tiles were a bit bent, so 1 star.
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These negative reviews, as ludicrous as many of them are, have apparently hit the business hard. Keller and her husband have set up a FundAnything page in an attempt, they say, to make payroll in the wake of the attacks on their and their company’s reputation online. On the FundAnything page Keller’s husband, Paul Burns, writes:

We are getting slanderous lies about our services and people posting deplorable images on review sites, as well desecrating our star ratings and customers calling. No one clicks to a service company with 1 star rating. 

According to Burns, the 26-year-old “family based service business with 14 employees” may be forced to close “because of a brutal mob attack on our social review sites.”

Mason’s response to this campaign being waged in his name? Another video, in which he declares that “Karma [is] ONLY A BITCH, if you are one!”

Except that this isn’t “karma,” a supernatural force that Mason, a self-avowed “skeptic,’ presumably doesn’t believe in anyway.

This is an organized harassment campaign, instigated and encouraged by Mason himself.

While I’ve enjoyed Laughing Witch’s videos in the past, I think the letter writing campaign was wrong. Writing employers is a low blow. And despite Mason’s many flaws as a thinker and a human being, he’s no Nazi.

But the wave of harassment he’s brought down on Keller — and which he has not made even the slightest attempt to rein in  — is indefensible.

And it’s getting worse by the day: 8chan’s Baphomet forum, a haven for malicious doxers and harassers, has now jumped aboard this harassment train, targeting not only Keller but her supporters as well. They’ve doxed one other YouTuber already, and are working on doxing others.

In a Baphomet thread, one anon happily reports that the attacks on Keller are causing her great distress:

Anonymous 10/21/15 (Wed) 20:11:27 No.98799>>99454 File (hide): 1445476287252.png (84.73 KB, 623x808, 623:808, 1.png) HOLY SHIT ATTENTION ATTENTION FELLOW BAPHIES!!! POSSIBLE SUICIDE MIGHT HAPPEN REPEAT SUICIDE MIGHT RESULT! Pic related but read this twitter thread for more context https://twitter.com/kflogan/status/656987823195693056 Apparently being triggered to near deadly levels, Kevin the cuck is apparently begging for Thundiecuck to delete his videos exposing laughing bitch. Thundercuck has finally been promoted to ThunderpossiblynotmuchofabitchthanIthought after saying he won't do it unless she does it first. She's having a nervous breakdown and her company may actually go down!

While Mason at first suggested that he would call off the attack if Keller apologized to him, he has since refused to accept her apology, and seems positively gleeful about the pain he’s caused her and her allies.

The internet has officially hit another new low.

I’ll post more on this as it develops.

NOTE: Thanks to Daily Kos blogger idlediletante (Margaret Pless), who provided me with a number of tips on this story. She’s written three posts on the subject so far:

Family Business Brigaded on Yelp by MRA YouTube Stars

Phil Mason is Working With Baphomet to Ruin DC Business

How it Feels to Be Targeted By An Internet Hate Mob: One Man’s Story

 

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delphi_ote
delphi_ote
5 years ago

“I’m reacting accordingly by submitting a report to Patreon of Mason using his platform as a Patreon creator to dox and mobilize a hate mob – Something that is very clearly breaking the Terms of Service of Patreon.”

By all means, attack the platform he’s standing on to spread his reprehensible views. Patreon is directly supporting the things he’s saying and benefiting materially from his doing so. You’re attacking him in his role as a public figure via the means he’s using to spread that message. That is 100% appropriate.

Sending messages to his research lab claiming that he’s a Nazi, though, is wrong.

littleknown
littleknown
5 years ago

Strangely, I don’t see “automatically assumes contrary points of views of strangers to be true” as the definition of freethinker.

Also, I’m not sure “hit piece” means what you think it means. Neither David’s post, nor the majority of commenters here, have come out in support of the attempt to get Thunderf00t fired (or jailed).

If Thunderf00t’s position is that LW must not only apologize for her letters, but also for any criticism of his highly disproportionate “let loose the dogs of war” response, before he will call off said dogs, then he is behaving like a dictatorial five-year-old, as are any of his supporters who agree with this behavior.

His (and your) “Karma’s a bitch” stance are not so freethinking, and shows that neither of you understand what the idea of karma is: the universe paying people back for their rights or wrongs. I.e., a person trying to trip a stranger for fun ends up spraining their ankle through no effort on the part of their victim. What Thunderf00t is calling “karma” is actually just revenge, and incredibly cynical and disproportionate revenge at that. Calling it “karma” brings to mind those lovely “Christian Marine puts stupid college professor in his place, proving God is real by knocking professor on his ass when professor says, ‘If God is real, then let him knock me down'” tropes.

Falconer
5 years ago

Strangely, I don’t see “automatically assumes contrary points of views of strangers to be true” as the definition of freethinker.

Nor is “defends assertions with tribalism.”

(I don’t believe I’ve seen you around much before, littleknown, but maybe that’s just because I haven’t been around much. Welcome to the Mammoth! Have you had your welcome package yet?)

Pannic
Pannic
5 years ago

Here is thunderf00t, free speech activist, threatening to sue someone on Twitter for spoofing him.

https://twitter.com/thunderf00t/status/334045090383278080

Remember: bombarding someone with messages saying she’s a bitch isn’t harassment. But making a spoof account to make fun of someone is.

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

@ Milkshake

DEAR THUNDERDR0NES. IT WAS I, NOT LAUGHING WITCH, WHO CONTACTED MR. DARK OVERLORD HERE ABOUT THIS STORY. STOP SAYING IT WAS HER, IT MUST’VE BEEN HER. I DID IT. I CAN SHOW YOU THE GOD DAMN TWEET.

God, really? Yeah, I’m totally not a free thinker for deciding, ON MY OWN, that thunderd00f did something horrible to a feminist for shits and giggles because he stated that he and his coworkers got a great laugh out of the letter that, as far as I know, did no financial damage to his thunderd00ferness because he makes more off of youtube anyway.

Ugh.

Laughing Witch isn’t the only person in the world that thinks the thunderd00fus is a fatheaded moron.

freemage
5 years ago

I know the prat’s already banned, but I’m’a gonna take this one, anyway:

milkshake fan | October 27, 2015 at 11:20 am
LOL i just noticed linked to those bloody bogus articles by margaret pless

the first one says that thunderf00t is an MRA! it also connects this to sargon of akkad who NOTHING to do with this, and also calls him an MRA!

the second article states as a fact that thunderf00t is “working with baphomet” LIBELLOUS!

First off, there are a large number of MRAs who do not identify as such. Thunderf00t’s talking points, positions and MO are all so MRA that we can safely assume that he is, indeed, a aquatic foul of some sort.

Secondly, for the love of everything, stop displaying your ignorance as a badge of honor. Not only is your comprehension of the notion of ‘karma’ pathetically facile, even once we agree to use the bastardized Western version of it, but you very clearly have no concept what it takes for something to be libelous, or as you call it, “LIBELLOUS”. First news is that it doesn’t just mean “false”, though I note you present no evidence of falsity other than your quasi-literate bleatings. It would also mean that she knows (or can be reasonably be expected to know) that she’s telling an untruth, and that said lie is, in some way, defamatory and capable of causing substantial harm to T-f00t’s reputation.

That last one, for the record, would require additional proofs, as I see nothing about baphomet that would indicate it is not perfectly in line with The Foot’s stanky-ass opinions.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@David Futrelle,

Ohmigosh, if there are good attempted-posts being thrown at you, can you make a follow-up post so that we can see them? If they’re good and that there are enough of them, of course. That sounds gleefully fun.

tedthefed
tedthefed
5 years ago

I perversely love the South Park Atheist Libertarian way of talking about freethinking.

It means saying things that you think most people don’t agree with. It has to. Because if you say things people DO agree with, then you might get socially rewarded for it, and then you weren’t purely being a freethinker; your motives were tainted by the external reward.

tedthefed
tedthefed
5 years ago

It also means that being caring and compassionate is NEVER being a freethinker, because not only are those emotional to people who don’t know what “emotion” means, they’re also things that are GOOD and so people might think you’re good for doing!! TAINTED.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

“You must agree with everything I say, or else you’re not a freethinker!”

Much STEM
Many logic
Wow.

Ace
Ace
5 years ago

Guys, you are forgetting something! Thunderfoot is a man! Therefore automatically right, no matter what he does! And Laughing Witch is a woman, so obviously she is lying out of her vagina or something.

Post contains sarcasm.

On another note, I hope that Laughing Witch’s business can recover.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Not lying so much. Facts just get all bungled when they go through the vagina filtration system.

Ace
Ace
5 years ago

Well, vaginas have all that bacteria to keep them clean. I’m guessing occassionaly they get messed up, and attack the facts! Can’t control those dang things. I now keep mine in a cage, since it was always trying to go out and steal sperm.

Falconer
5 years ago

Well, you know, if it’s a legitimate truth the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

a) What sort of freethinker links to only a single source? Shouldn’t he present multiple definitions of freethinking in order to avoid potential source bias?

b) What sort of freethinker, if they’re only going to use a single dictionary, uses Merriam-Webster?

Ace
Ace
5 years ago

@EJ. Obviously we have to prove we are free thinkers by going out and finding our own sources. We must prove our worth.

I think I’m just going to go listen to music instead. That way I don’t have to think.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

But then you’ll be supporting simple chord progressions!

Ace
Ace
5 years ago

Oh, no! I’m misandring too hard! I must seek help from the Wise Paul to find out which music does not oppress men… which will be hard with all the male artists out there talking about hot female bodies. Or is it Feeeeemaaaale bodies? My poor ladybrain can’t think about these things too hard, after all.

And, since I am new here, I will say again that post contains sarcasm.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
5 years ago

Ok, on topic — is getting people to write someone’s employer questionable? Yep. Is getting a bunch of people all riled up to go after someone in whatever way they see fit remotely acceptable? Nope.

Seeing how it sounds like d00fus’s uni job and internet bigotry did intersect, writing his bosses about that seems perfectly fine — if you do something that threatens your employer’s reputation then it’s totally fair for them to know about that. I had a student job for my uni when I went there, and put together HR packets for incoming employees, and yeah, if he implied his uni supported his views he best be damned careful what he says cuz they’real totally within their bounds to go “no, actually, we don’t”.

Is asking people, publicly, to all write his employer okay? And does that depend on the size of the platform? I’d go for maybe, and it does depend, yes. Is making shit up and spreading it to a large platform a different beast? Yep. I’m not even sure it’s possible to smear a uni like it is to smear a small business — I could go on every forum imaginable and give the full name and position of rapist ex #2 and it would have fuck all affect on incoming students, whereas going around saying the tiny company I do web design for does any of the shit she’s being accused of would ruin them, and getting a bunch of people to do it… *shudder*

So yeah, asshole utterly fails at that adult thing known as proportional response, thus making the question of whether she should’ve done what she did irrelevant.

(And no trolls, I’m not saying d00fus is a rapist, I’m presenting an analogy.)

TheLulzWatch
TheLulzWatch
5 years ago

What an sad idiot he is, so much for men being more rational than women.

“Sarkeesian is such a silly internet con artist, I boner-hates her and her vile methods… which is why I too have become an internet con artist!”

Hypocrites too.

I did not even know what yelper was until the latest South Park episode.

Warning: Don´t watch if you are just about to eat.

lwd
lwd
5 years ago

I remember a little ways back when Thunderf00t and similar misogynists were insisting that the court of public opinion was bad and people over the internet had no right whatsoever to assume someone was a rapist or had committed any sort of sexual assault unless he had been tried and convicted. Sexual assault should only be examined and judged by the legal system, they said.

And now, Thunderf00t has seemingly decided it’s not so bad throwing someone and their reputation to the court of public opinion. All of his followers on YouTube can clearly dispense justice far better than a court ever could.

Why the change of heart, Thunderf00t?

littleknown
littleknown
5 years ago

@Falconer: I have only made four or five posts, I think, and most of them recent, after lurking for several months. I found the artistryforfeminismandkittens welcome post recently when I decided to start posting … I had always thought “Scenting Fucking Hard Candles” was such a random username, and I figuratively had a “spew chocolate milk all over the screen” moment when I read that post 🙂

The Golux
The Golux
5 years ago

This is just edrama bullshit. LW lied about TF and tried to get him thrown in jail. Then TF made a video about it (which im sure we would all agree is his right) then some of his fans did something stupid. But so what? TF doesnt control people and he never asked people to do this.

I dont see what right LW which has to feel like a victim here to be honest. Why is it okay for some people to try and fuck with peoples lively hoods but not others?

Also you make it seem like TF got famous for making video responses to sarkeesian, this is totally untrue. That may well be when he came across your radar but he’s been around ages.

I dont really take a side on this, its most that i just dont see why anyone would.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I don’t take sides, it’s just that Thunderfoot is totally right and Laughing Witch is totally wrong. Whoever thought if you doxxed someone and gave the info to a bunch of rage filled misogynists, they’d use it to harass! Totally out of nowhere, that!

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

@The Golux
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Pannic
Pannic
5 years ago

“Then TF made a video about it (which im sure we would all agree is his right) then some of his fans did something stupid. But so what? TF doesnt control people and he never asked people to do this.”

Yeah. It’s totally not his fault that he made a video directing people to her company and Yelp page. He can’t help it if, after showing that information to his fanbase, that said fanbase decides to do bad things with that information that he specifically gave them in a video where he very clearly implied that bad things could happen.

Totally blameless. He didn’t do anything at all! All he did was make a video with her company information and say “Gee, that’s a nice company you got there. Sure would be a shame if something were to happen to it. Am I right, four hundred thousand subscribers?”

The G
5 years ago

Could someone actually explain to me what makes TF a misogynist?

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
5 years ago

The Gofux, Thundershitcock makes serious fucking bank off bashing Sarkeesian because Gamergaters are worthless illiterate angry piss piglets who hate women, and he’s cynically exploiting them. The world would be better off without all of them, and I don’t actually care if any gamergaters with depression take that the wrong way. That’s how fucking livid I am.

throwaway
throwaway
5 years ago

TF doesnt control people and he never asked people to do this.

So, you don’t think it’s a reasonable assumption, especially when you have 400k raving followers who are mostly hellbent on destroying feminism, that when you post their personal information, their yelp page, etc., that some of them will be going out to do something vindictive. How stupid do you think Phil Mason is? Because it’s a lot more stupid than I think he is.

littleknown
littleknown
5 years ago

The Golux wrote:

TF doesnt control people and he never asked people to do this.

Why is it okay for some people to try and fuck with peoples lively hoods but not others?

The insincerity is strong with this one.

Frank Spencer
Frank Spencer
5 years ago

Was Laughing Witch within her rights to contact Thunderf00t’s university? Of course. All universities have policies on the use of social media by their staff (although I can’t find the one at Thundy’s place, probably because it’s in Czech), and they usually stipulate that staff must ensure that there is clear separation between personal opinion and professional association. Phil has not only shot videos from his lab he’s also made explicit reference to his scientific authority (granted ultimately by his institution) and even given acknowledgment to his Youtube viewers and Patreon supporters in a published paper, ultimately funded by his institution. As a concerned member of the public it is not only LW’s right to question his public statements it’s pretty much her responsibility. I’m sure the institution would actively support the expression of public concern about a member of staff that her letter represented, however ill-phrased, and I hope would frown on attempts by that member of staff to exact retribution on the complainant.

dhag85
5 years ago

About TF’s youtube career:

The early parts of his creationism video series are some of his most viewed videos, in part because they have been out there for 7-8 years by now. Part 1 has 2 millions views. Already in part 2 it drops to 900k. From there it’s downhill. These days, he makes his money off feminism related videos. When he puts “feminism” or “feminist” or “Sarkeesian” in the title, he gets significantly more views than his other videos. These videos have about twice the popularity of his creationism videos, while non-creationism and non-feminism videos have much fewer views. In later years, one of his feminist-bashing videos gained 1.2 million views, and others have reached 700k-900k. Videos not related to feminism generally get 200k views at the most.

When I type thunderf00t into my YT search bar, I get these autoresults:

– thunderf00t busted (a number of videos centered on personal attacks, mostly against Sarkeesian)
– thunderf00t feminism
– thunderf00t anita sarkeesian
– thunderf00t laci green
– thunderf00t vs rebecca watson
– thunderf00t kent hovind
– thunderf00t rebecca watson
– thunderf00t ray comfort
– thunderf00t gamergate
– thunderf00t channel

Yeah, once upon a time he was known for other things than harassing feminists on the internet. But not anymore.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

If I want to listen to someone bust young earth creationism, I’ll listen to someone who is also witty and a good person. Like Neil Degrasse Tyson or Bill Nye. I kind of doubt anyone who isn’t an anti feminist would bother with Thunderfoot when there are better and more well known options.

Bryce
Bryce
5 years ago

I can’t sit through any of his tiresome, unoriginal Muslim/creationist/feminist baiting videos. Still can’t see much moral distinction here either: the actions of both parties involve trying to hurt someone for the sake of it. It’s up to Mason’s employer to decide whether his online presence is harming their reputation. They were probably already aware of it to some degree.

Iris Scanner
Iris Scanner
5 years ago

Laughing Witch not only tried to get Phil Mason fired from his job (for disagreeing with her on the internet), but also for a moment mistakenly believed that she succeeded in her goal. She made a video gloating about her victory and taunting Phil Mason for losing his job. She could not have been happier when she thought she had participated in a mob action that had deeply wounded the target, robbing him of his primary source of income. In her gloating video, LW even displayed her real name and bragged that there was nothing Phil Mason could do to her.

In response, Mason made a video that didn’t explicitly call for retaliatory mob action, but nonetheless resulted in it.

Kind of like David Futrelle in the OP here, casually linking to Mason’s Patreon page but not calling for any specific mob action against it. Like Mason, Futrelle knows the mob will take the hint.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

1) Is your link supposed to go back to this very page? Because I find that confusing.

2) What hint am I supposed to get from a link to tf00t’s Patreon? Am I supposed to… give him money? I’m not going to do that.

Fabe
Fabe
5 years ago

And a new troll appears.

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

@fabe

Well, we mentioned the thunderchrist. They’ll be coming out of the woodwork for awhile now. Kind of like roaches.

makroth
5 years ago

Gee, Iris! I can’t imagine why anyone would ever want to retaliate against Thunderfoot and his follwers. I mean he’s such a rational and reasonable human being. He’s never hurt anyone.

makroth
5 years ago

Except he did hurt many people. Laughing Witch is only the latest casualty of this overgrown toddler’s outbursts.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

Milkshake Fan:

Might I call your attention to the following:

I’m not going to post any more comments anyway, dont worry.

You are not freethinkers btw

I count 6 comments from you after the preceding promise.

Pro tip: When you swear that you will flounce, FLOUNCE!

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

@Iris Scanner

Except David didn’t post any link to TF’s Patreon. Someone in the comments did because uploading stuff encouraging (“explicitly” or not) harassment of another person is against Patreon’s terms of service.

Funny how you’ll defend TF for outright doxxing someone by claiming he “didn’t explicitly call for” his followers to harass someone when it’s fucking obvious that they would simply because everyone knows what type of people they are and what they think of feminists, but then you turn around and get pissy when someone says “Hey, TF’s violating Patreon’s ToS by uploading videos where he harasses women and doxxes them, we should most likely report that”.

Take a seat, Felipe.
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Wetherby
Wetherby
5 years ago

@freemage

Not only is your comprehension of the notion of ‘karma’ pathetically facile, even once we agree to use the bastardized Western version of it, but you very clearly have no concept what it takes for something to be libelous, or as you call it, “LIBELLOUS”.

I call it “libellous” too, because that’s the British English spelling.

ColeYote
ColeYote
5 years ago

*Sigh*. I really really really really really really really really hate MRAs.

Iris Scanner
Iris Scanner
5 years ago

Viscaria,

The link goes to the ninth comment on this blog entry. That’s how long it took before someone took the hint from David Futrelle and initiated a mob action against Mason’s Patreon funds:

Everyone should go to Patreon and report his account. He is clearly breaking the rules there.

https://www.patreon.com/guidelines

“After creating a Patreon page, any Creator caught in the act or convicted of making credible violent threats, committing violent crimes, malicious doxing, coordinating nonviolent harm such as fraud, or encouraging others to do the aforementioned harmful activities may be banned from using Patreon.”

This was followed by several comments encouraging further action, and, as far as I know, zero comments saying that it was wrong to go after someone’s funding this way. It apparently bothers few, including David Futrelle, that Mason is not guilty of any of the listed offenses.

“The internet has officially hit another new low.”

Fabe
Fabe
5 years ago

So when Thunderfool actually does its OK but if you just say some else is doing the same thing then its a bad thing, OK got it . thanks for clearing that up Iris

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Iris Scanner | October 27, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Viscaria,

The link goes to the ninth comment on this blog entry. That’s how long it took before someone took the hint from David Futrelle and initiated a mob action against Mason’s Patreon funds:

[Quoted comment]

This was followed by several comments encouraging further action, and, as far as I know, zero comments saying that it was wrong to go after someone’s funding this way. It apparently bothers few, including David Futrelle, that Mason is not guilty of any of the listed offenses.

“The internet has officially hit another new low.”

My grandfather was from Missouri, Iris. You know what that means? Show me. Where did David “hint” that we should go after TF in any capacity? Where did David encourage us to do so? Because he didn’t link to it in the article, like you claimed earlier, and now you’re backpedaling and saying he “hinted” at it.

Also, that person had a point. TF doxxed someone, that’s breaking Patreon’s rules, and illegal. TF isn’t immune to the way Patreon runs their shit. If he breaks their rules, Patreon has a right to know. He’s using their platform to fund his bigotry, and he openly doxxed someone, leading to their harassment, which is illegal.

If you have proof that TF didn’t, in fact, break any of Patreon’s rules, feel free to provide it. In the meantime, we’ll be sitting here on the proof that he did, and thus, we should report it.

Again, Sit the Fuck down, Felipe. You’re being obnoxious with all your wrong.

dhag85
5 years ago

Why would it be wrong to inform Patreon about a user breaking their rules?

Iris Scanner
Iris Scanner
5 years ago

Paradoxical Intention,

You don’t know what you’re talking about. Thunderf00t/Phil Mason did not dox Laughing Witch. Laughing Witch enthusiastically displayed her own real name in the video where she gloated about costing Mason his job (for disagreeing with her on the internet). She specifically bragged about using her own real name in the letter she sent that falsely accused Mason of criminal behavior and being a “Nazi.” She doxed herself and made a big show of doing it.

The current Patreon brigading attack on Mason will most likely fail, but that’s only because Patreon will actually care if the charges against Mason are true.