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Thunderf00t rebuts charges he commands a hate mob by unleashing a hate mob on a woman who made this charge

Thunderf00t: Pleased with himself
Thunderf00t: Quite pleased with himself

Phil Mason, better known online as Thunderf00t, is a scientific researcher and YouTube bloviater who’s turned his hate-crush on video game critic Anita Sarkeesian into a surprisingly lucrative part-time job; his seemingly unending stream of YouTube videos attacking Sarkeesian, many of which have drawn hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube, have without a doubt contributed mightily to the harassment directed against her by the online mob known as #Gamergate.

Now Mason is trying to defend himself against charges that he has become the de facto leader of a vast hate mob that harasses Sarkeesian and other women … by encouraging his followers to harass a woman who charged him with exactly this.

And a good number of Mason’s 400,000 YouTube followers have taken him up on this challenge, flooding the Yelp page of the business the woman runs with her husband with fraudulent one-star reviews and besieging her and her family business with angry and harassing phone calls (at least one of which the perpetrator has put online).

The story of this particular debacle began this past January when the YouTuber who calls herself Laughing Witch sent a letter to Mason’s employer, accusing the YouTuber of harassing Sarkeesian and other women and repeatedly suggesting that he and his followers were a bunch of Nazis. Her email was part of a letter-writing campaign by a number of feminist Youtubers who hoped their letters would get Mason fired from his research job.

Mason, who apparently faced no repercussions from the letter-writing campaign, decided last week to retaliate against Laughing Witch — real name Jennifer Keller. He posted a video about Keller’s letter, following up with a second video posting her name as well as screenshots from the web page of Porcelain Tub Restoration, the company she runs with her husband.

While Tunderf00t didn’t explicitly command his army to harass Keller and her husband, he suggested to his supporters that they post their thoughts about her on the business’s Yelp page — and they did, cratering the company’s rating with literally hundreds of fake one-star reviews.

Yelp has been removing the most obviously fake ones, as well as those referencing her letter about Thunderf00t, but many remain up as “not recommended” (in other words, questionable) reviews, including a number of clearly trollish ones accusing Keller of being a Nazi.

1.0 star rating 10/22/2015 When they came to remodel, i noticed their dismay i had a menorah, i ignored it and told them where my bathroom was. At first i thought it was my paranoia, but then...they starting putting the tiles in such a manner that swastikas were drawn in between the tiles. Then they dropped a very expensive soap and it broke, when i reacted, a short haired woman said: 'What? Is that you granma?' When they finished the work in the bathroom i was less than pleased, i wanted them to leave my house. They proceded to where my menorah was (I should mention i'm not jewish, it seemed practical for a quake or something) and the short haired elderly woman broke it and groped me, saying 'I haven't eaten kosher for a while'. At this point i told them to leave, and the woman exposed herself to me while yelling verses of mein kampf, saying Hitler had a point, but he should have killed all men as well, she refered to Hitler as the feminist who never was, a lonely tear drop running down her face. They left, well, she defecated on my garden and then they left. It would have been fine but the tiles were a bit bent, so 1 star.
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These negative reviews, as ludicrous as many of them are, have apparently hit the business hard. Keller and her husband have set up a FundAnything page in an attempt, they say, to make payroll in the wake of the attacks on their and their company’s reputation online. On the FundAnything page Keller’s husband, Paul Burns, writes:

We are getting slanderous lies about our services and people posting deplorable images on review sites, as well desecrating our star ratings and customers calling. No one clicks to a service company with 1 star rating. 

According to Burns, the 26-year-old “family based service business with 14 employees” may be forced to close “because of a brutal mob attack on our social review sites.”

Mason’s response to this campaign being waged in his name? Another video, in which he declares that “Karma [is] ONLY A BITCH, if you are one!”

Except that this isn’t “karma,” a supernatural force that Mason, a self-avowed “skeptic,’ presumably doesn’t believe in anyway.

This is an organized harassment campaign, instigated and encouraged by Mason himself.

While I’ve enjoyed Laughing Witch’s videos in the past, I think the letter writing campaign was wrong. Writing employers is a low blow. And despite Mason’s many flaws as a thinker and a human being, he’s no Nazi.

But the wave of harassment he’s brought down on Keller — and which he has not made even the slightest attempt to rein in  — is indefensible.

And it’s getting worse by the day: 8chan’s Baphomet forum, a haven for malicious doxers and harassers, has now jumped aboard this harassment train, targeting not only Keller but her supporters as well. They’ve doxed one other YouTuber already, and are working on doxing others.

In a Baphomet thread, one anon happily reports that the attacks on Keller are causing her great distress:

Anonymous 10/21/15 (Wed) 20:11:27 No.98799>>99454 File (hide): 1445476287252.png (84.73 KB, 623x808, 623:808, 1.png) HOLY SHIT ATTENTION ATTENTION FELLOW BAPHIES!!! POSSIBLE SUICIDE MIGHT HAPPEN REPEAT SUICIDE MIGHT RESULT! Pic related but read this twitter thread for more context https://twitter.com/kflogan/status/656987823195693056 Apparently being triggered to near deadly levels, Kevin the cuck is apparently begging for Thundiecuck to delete his videos exposing laughing bitch. Thundercuck has finally been promoted to ThunderpossiblynotmuchofabitchthanIthought after saying he won't do it unless she does it first. She's having a nervous breakdown and her company may actually go down!

While Mason at first suggested that he would call off the attack if Keller apologized to him, he has since refused to accept her apology, and seems positively gleeful about the pain he’s caused her and her allies.

The internet has officially hit another new low.

I’ll post more on this as it develops.

NOTE: Thanks to Daily Kos blogger idlediletante (Margaret Pless), who provided me with a number of tips on this story. She’s written three posts on the subject so far:

Family Business Brigaded on Yelp by MRA YouTube Stars

Phil Mason is Working With Baphomet to Ruin DC Business

How it Feels to Be Targeted By An Internet Hate Mob: One Man’s Story

 

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loquora
5 years ago

Holy shit. Yeah, I don’t feel comfortable writing letters to someone’s employer to get them fired, but two wrongs in no way make a right. And this second, enormous wrong could lead to some very serious real world consequences. How can they be so gleeful about a possible suicide? It’s times like this I wish I believed in hell, because it would make me feel better if I thought people like that could burn for all eternity.

loquora
5 years ago

Oh, and for all the whining and crying these same people go on about their freeze peach, this is an example of people who are genuinely taking away someone’s right to free speech. She can’t be critical of them or they will DESTROY HER LIFE.

I know I’ve been around long enough that I shouldn’t be shocked by this kind of behavior, but somehow I still am.

magnesium
magnesium
5 years ago

And despite Mason’s many flaws as a thinker and a human being, he’s no Nazi.

Isn’t he the one who tried to argue that the holocaust was a good thing? Not that necessarily makes him a Nazi, I guess. Just a self-obsessed moron who thinks being a contrarian makes him look smart.

Either way, he’s a scumbag and he deserves to feel no happiness in life.

Anne
Anne
5 years ago

…And on AVfM they are clapping their Little hands…These people are total lowlifes. All of them. Hope a lot of people will support Ms. Keller.

personalpest
personalpest
5 years ago

Talk about irony. Mason apparently doesn’t realize that no matter how legitimate his problem with Keller, his massive retaliation against her will destroy any sympathy non-Manospherians might have had for him.

Bazia
Bazia
5 years ago

I think this article should be sent to Phil Mason’s employer. I think Sarkeesian has to start fighting back and that Laughing Witch should put her youtube channel back up and fight. LW was trying to defend Sarkeesian, who has the resources to fight for herself but has mistakenly not done so.

Agreed, LW did something wrong. She has publicly apologized so Mason’s reputation is cleared for anybody checking him out online. But now he is trashing his own reputation, revealing what a petty little tyrant he is. Women, you have got to fight. These twerps will continue to steamroll over you until you show your formidable selves and stand against attacks.

C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
5 years ago

If Phil Mason didn’t deserve to be fired before, he does now.

Some sort of username
Some sort of username
5 years ago

@personalpest

Problem is he doesn’t really care that much about that because he gets PLENTY of support from people in the manosphere as well as in #GG, as evidence by just how large this attack is. He doesn’t want anyone’s sympathy because he already has an army with which to silence anyone who disagrees with him.

C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
5 years ago

Everyone should go to Patreon and report his account. He is clearly breaking the rules there.

https://www.patreon.com/guidelines

“After creating a Patreon page, any Creator caught in the act or convicted of making credible violent threats, committing violent crimes, malicious doxing, coordinating nonviolent harm such as fraud, or encouraging others to do the aforementioned harmful activities may be banned from using Patreon.”

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
5 years ago

My theory about GG, MRAs, et al., is that they’re basically bullies that enjoy hurting people, but they also need to see themselves as righteous good guys. Their concern for “ethics in video games journalism,” men’s problems, white genocide, or whatever is just a shallow ideological cover that they use to justify flipping out on people they already hated anyway without feeling like they’re just being cruel. This sort of overreaction (to a real problem in this case–I would unsubscribe to TLW over the letter writing thing) is typical, both in its gleeful cruelty and its pointlessness for achieving purported aims.

Rakka (@CharcoalWing)
5 years ago

personalpest, I think people in general have this perception that when acting in retaliation, one is forgiven for going overboard.

thisisnotmyrealusername
thisisnotmyrealusername
5 years ago

Annd unsuprisingly the daily kos article is being brigaded, whether or not it was the right thing the women did shouldnt be a factor, these asshats should not be threatening someones livliehood

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

In other news, a panel on dealing with online harassment that was scheduled for South by Southwest was canceled because of threats.
http://jezebel.com/citing-violent-threats-sxsw-cancels-both-pro-and-anti-1738793174
I kind of think this is bullshit. From what they said, it’s sounds more like they wanted to avoid controversy and less about actual safety. They had an opportunity to be a leader and instead pandered to the dudebro base who don’t want their delicate white boy sensibilities offended by having to hear about something other than how great freeze peach is.

Maybe I’m overreacting, but that’s the vibe I’m getting.

mayimoktoo
mayimoktoo
5 years ago

Phil Mason is a sadist.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
5 years ago

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Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

Christ, does anyone still put any stock in Yelp reviews? The site seems like it was designed to encourage slander and economic sabotage.

Michael Lindsay
5 years ago

Phil Mason is a bitter, twisted little man. Since being punted from FtB for being a twerp he’s forte has been reduced from “mocking creationist silliness” to “bitter complaining that feminism exists.” Now he’s levelled up to actively trying to destroy people’s lives. Sad, sad git.

anon
anon
5 years ago

My view probably isn’t popular but isn’t this proof that Laughingwitch was right to contact his employer?

I’d be really uncomfortable having someone work for me whose hobby is supporting hate mobs.

vanir85
5 years ago

These “euphoric” atheist types makes no sense (and I’m saying that AS an atheist). They complain about the horror of religion – and then go on to adopt all the worst parts of it, while still rejecting many of the good parts.

dhag85
5 years ago

I’ve sometimes wondered how some of these guys can actually be not anonymous and still stay employed.

pannic
pannic
5 years ago

Didn’t send a letter to VFX’s employer? And wasn’t VFX a teenager at the time?

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

So that’s what Thunderfart looks like? Well, ain’t he a pretty boy. [/sarcasm, in case needed]

Terrabeau
Terrabeau
5 years ago

So even when given the option to take the high road and present themselves as a victimized group, #Gators just can’t resist attacking a woman when given the opportunity. It’s a good thing nobody’s taking them seriously anymore.

Pannic
Pannic
5 years ago

Didn’t this guy mail VFX’s employer? And wasn’t VFX a teenager?

pkayden
pkayden
5 years ago

“While I’ve enjoyed Laughing Witch’s videos in the past, I think the letter writing campaign was wrong.”

Agreed. Unfortunately, Laughing Witch was more vulnerable to financial ruin when Thunderfoot hit back at her business. Seems like his employer is okay with employing a vocal sexist. Hopefully, those of us who can donate to her fundraising page will do so. What is happening to her and her husband is inexcusable.

C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
5 years ago

“Seems like his employer is okay with employing a vocal sexist.”

That’s why I went to Patreon. I already got a response and they told me to fill out a form for their Trust and Safety team to look at. Hopefully it works.

reymohammed
reymohammed
5 years ago

Setting out to destroy someone’s business by fraudulently disparaging their service or product is an actionable tort, and when combined with certain other offenses, can give rise to a civil RICO. I’d suggest she see an attorney who has dealt with this kind of thing.

coleopteron
coleopteron
5 years ago

He may not be a nazi himself, but I’m given to understand that his blatant islamophobia and accompanying racism have made him quite popular among the stormfront crowd. Were I his employer I’d probably have appreciated a heads up.

Shalimar
Shalimar
5 years ago

Which research company in the UK employs Mason? I’m not going to write them any letters, but everyone should be aware of the kind of lowlife they continue to employ. What he does reflects on their reputation.

makroth
5 years ago

How do i report him?

makroth
5 years ago

Do i have to sign up?

legobatgirl
legobatgirl
5 years ago

Long time reader, first time comment-er…

Unfortunately, I have to agree that Laughing Witch was in the wrong to participate in the letter writing campaign. While that doesn’t mean she deserves to have her business ruined (she clearly does not), Mason is entitled to his noxious views and continued employment. Had he crossed the line into actually physically assaulting someone, my position would be different, but the way to combat the lowlifes isn’t by sinking to their level. When you do, you give them exactly this kind of ammunition.

I do hope she and her husband are able to weather this storm until they get distracted by the next imagined slight.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

My view probably isn’t popular but isn’t this proof that Laughingwitch was right to contact his employer?

I’d be really uncomfortable having someone work for me whose hobby is supporting hate mobs.

It IS proof, yes. And at the risk of joining the unpopular crowd, I think she was onto something. If Michael Brutsch, a.k.a. Violentacrez, isn’t entitled to keep his job on account of being a semi-pro troll, then this guy, who IS a professional troll, isn’t entitled to keep his, either.

And last I looked, heading up lynch mobs is still illegal, too.

anon
anon
5 years ago

@Bina

I know that using this case would be an after the fact excuse but I sincerely doubt that this is the first time that he sent out a brigade to hurt someone.

At the very least he’s guilty of increasing Anita-hate.

C.S.Strowbridge
C.S.Strowbridge
5 years ago

“How do i report him?”

I went to Patreon

https://patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

And reported him for breaking community guideline, specifically doxing. They sent me a Google Doc to fill out. Hopefully there will be a result.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

… I honestly thought he was a literal Nazi. Huh.

brooked
brooked
5 years ago

This story is super fucking depressing but I was sort of cheered up by seeing the Daily Kos commenters smack around the nitwit Tfoot fanboys who have swarmed in to defend their hero. Granted it’s not hard to smack down a group that seems to consist entirely of fuming Junior High debate club wash-outs, but it’s still fun to watch.

What is an MRA I love how people can unilaterally decide that someone necessarily is an MRA based on whether or not they agree with them. The people who left reviews on Yelp are completely annonymous yet the internet detectives somehow have them all figured out.

Yeah, maybe her husband’s company suddenly got a lot worse at porcelain tub restoration. I mean, can you scientifically prove the obvious harassment is harassment?

The real truth of the story First, this article is very biased and only tells one side of the story.
Second, read this and then ask yourself how you would feel and react if these people did to you what they did to Dr. Mason. Think about that question as you read this then answer.
I’ve watched this unfold minute by minute and I can tell you the truth about what happened.

. “…and I will recount this in excruciating detail.”

Orion
5 years ago

Sarkeesian…has the resources to fight for herself but has mistakenly not done so.

Citation needed.

Lithp
Lithp
5 years ago

I’m joining the unpopular crowd too. I don’t think LaughingWitch was correct, based on what I know about the accusations, but professors are expected to adhere to stringent ethical standards. If you think they’re not doing it, but you’re afraid to contact the institution for fear that you’ll be called “not cool,” what’s the bloody point of ethics standards?

rick
rick
5 years ago

My favourite defense of various attack campaigns on Sarkeesian is how “she picked the fight”. How does criticizing pop cultural consumer products equate to “picking a fight”? That’s never been fully explained. I guess these people’s identities are so wrapped up in the crap they buy they can’t differentiate where the self begins and their consumption patterns end? And why do these people see “vengeance” against people they’ve never met and have never done them any harm as their personal responsibility? The internet is a strange universe.

Bazia
Bazia
5 years ago

Hi, Orion,

Sarkeesian has sat on her hands. Can you show some way in which she has directly confronted her harassers?

Miss Andry
5 years ago

I lost all respect for Thunderf00t long ago. Lately he’s become especially insufferable, even launching an anti-feminist/anti-Sarkeesian tirade during his video on the Charlie Hebdo slaughter. He’ll use any tragedy to get in a jab against women he hates. This is just the icing on the cake for this mansplainy douchecanoe.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@Bazia

Appearing on international TV and the speaking to the UN doesn’t count?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

… Wait. I hope you’re not blaming Anita for what Thunderdoofus is doing. ಠ_ಠ

Orion
5 years ago

Christ, does anyone still put any stock in Yelp reviews? The site seems like it was designed to encourage slander and economic sabotage.

The overwhelming majority of small businesses will never be targeted by internet hate mobs. A user might understand that there’s no protection against vandalism, but if 99% of pages are never vandalized, that 1% error rate doesn’t really make it a bad tool for the consumer.

Orion
5 years ago

@Bazia,

Let me flip that back at you, because when you use the word “mistaken,” you have the burden of proof. I don’t know the details of what she’s been up to lately and am not able to list off the stuff she’s done to “fight.”

I would you to tell me: what would be a helpful way for her to “fight” Phil Mason and how do you know she has the resources to do it?

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

They’re all over the company’s Google Reviews, too.

http://bit.ly/1GF9J7b

NickNameNick
NickNameNick
5 years ago

Mason is entitled to his noxious views and continued employment.

I’m going to be a nit-picky asshole here, for a minute: he isn’t “entitled” to his views, he’s allowed to have them – like everyone else. Including those who he is harassing into oblivion.

Saying he’s “entitled” to his views is exactly what leads to this kind of mentality, where he and his sycophants think this disproportionate response to a letter from months ago that didn’t even get him fired. Even if it did get laid off – he’s just one person and still can rely off money from his over-funded Patreon account. Going out to ruin the person, the person’s business, and her associates is completely out-of-proportion.

There’s no reason for Mason or any of his fans need to do this. They do so because, as they feel entitled to say whatever they want, they are entitled to do whatever they want. Regardless of how hypocritical or overblown it is. Even questioning that sense of entitlement, even with little to no ill effect on them, is such a great infraction that their suppose love of “free speech” disappears as they hound and ostracize people into silence.

Then again, this love of “free speech” from they and those akin claim is a complete crock of shit. If they did supposed worship that concept – they wouldn’t feel the need to dominate every conversation. They can’t even keep themselves from going to sites they quite obviously hate to play Devil’s Advocate for the most reprehensible beliefs and people than allow any discussion between those who, y’know, regularly read that site’s content and discuss it regularly. They’d respect the fact that not every venue is obligated to act as their audience and validate them. They pointlessly overwhelm and derail conversations en masse to simply frustrate and drive people away than further any actual discussion – yet are either delusional or disingenuous enough to believe themselves to be on the moral high ground.

That isn’t sensible…it’s obsessive.

Cerberus
Cerberus
5 years ago

He also has a habit of seeking out disempowered women to sic his hate mob on, as I unfortunately have personal experience with.

Otto Di Denari (@ottodidenari)

Please please report that patreon
You can report for Doxing and clearly the terms of service says if you maliciously dox, you’re out, if you encourage fraud, you’re out.

Come on. This is it, he has done the super villain thing, where he charges once more at a target and flies off the cliff.

Here is the form.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1AXep3wKV1Sf_lwYcAIhKZFGrGtHXGJDk6vTlIKuiM3M/viewform

It asks for a link to his patreon which can be found easily.
It gives spaces for three more links. I have linked the Daily Kos news article. PZ Meyers Blog and this article here, which is good because it shows the vile celebration of suicide as well.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/22/1437368/-Family-Business-Brigaded-on-Yelp-by-MRA-YouTube-Stars

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/10/26/thunderf00t-keeps-proving-me-wrong/

There is NO GRAY AREA HERE. Sorry for the caps, but really.
He makes 3,400 plus dollars per video. That means for attacking that family business, he made around 7,000 dollars.

No.

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