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Bathtub orator Jordan Owen responds to critics of The Sarkeesian Effect Trailer with funny voices, mansterics

If their reaction to the widespread mockery of The Sarkeesian Effect trailer is any indication, the two biggest critics of the “critic who cannot be criticized” cannot handle much in the way of criticism. Davis Aurini, the Nazi-er of the two Sarkeesian Effect auteurs, has been blocking the critics on his Youtube channel, evidently oblivious to the ironies. Jordan Owen, the one with the hair, has been yelling into his computer and putting the results up on Youtube. (See above.)

I wouldn’t really recommend watching the entire 18-minute-plus video, in which Owen, bristling with anger, reads out his response to a two-week-old piece in the Houston Press making fun of the trailer, unless you have some sort of fetish for long-winded long-haired dudes talking in silly “Valley Girl” voicesmaking fun of the spelling of people’s names, literally screeching about the “racism and sexism” allegedly faced by white dudes, and generally making no fucking sense whatsoever (while gratuitously working the n-word into their rants).

Seriously, just watch the bits I’ve linked to in the paragraph above and you’ll have a pretty good taste of the whole thing. Or read the rather amusing (and accurate) executive summary prepared by one anti-gamergater here.

The skin, it is a bit thin, no?

Here’s the original Sarkeesian Effect Trailer.

Oh, wait, that was my version. Here’s the one by Owen and Aurini.

And in case you didn’t get that “bathtub orator” reference in the title, this will explain it.

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katz
katz
5 years ago

Jordan Owen is a big fan of Jem and the Holograms and is Pissed that they didn’t 1)hire him to write the soundtrack (really, he applied)

This fact made my day.

katz
katz
5 years ago

My inability to use HTML, however, did not make my day.

Tina S
Tina S
5 years ago

Egads, how long is this video! I’m getting bored!

Troy Brooks
5 years ago

People call Aurini a white nationalist because HE’S ON A FUCKING VIDEO SAYING HE’S A WHITE NATIONALIST.

roguepixie
roguepixie
5 years ago

They’re just so earnestly bizarre…

I think they both need a couple of friendly cats who they can babble away at at will and who can blissfully ignore them.

Cats help put everything into perspective.

marinerachel
marinerachel
5 years ago

I just wash to wash, cut and blow out his hair.

Krib
Krib
5 years ago

@Troy

He said he was a white nationalist “on paper”, as if that means he’s not one in real life!

Honestly him going “MGTOW” is a blessing to is all.

guest
guest
5 years ago

Speaking of movies–I just saw a trailer for this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock,_Knock_(2015_film)

and it looks awful–like an MRA’s nightmare come true.

Shalimar
Shalimar
5 years ago

White nationalist “on paper” means he believes everything they believe, but they’re a little too low-class for him. So Aurini is even an elitist asshole to other racists.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@guest

“Knock, Knock is a 2015 American horror thriller film directed by Eli Roth …”

Yeah, that’s all I need to know. Eli Roth is a misogynist (and racist!) who gets off on torture porn about women and minorities. Yech.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Mew York Kitty,
That’s because that’s the only kind of racism and sexism there are. Everything else is either a bias or a prejudice. Expanding the term to clear the waters for people who already can’t be bothered to learn what the words mean won’t make a difference. They can read. They can learn. They don’t want to. I’m sure the definition of the word “racism” has been explained to Jordan more than once. He rejects reality and substitutes his own.

There should be classes on this stuff required in schools. That might help. There are so many bigoted parents in the US though, that won;t happen for years to come.

One of my kids is in high school. On the last day one of the parents picked up their kid with Old Dixie flying from the bed of the truck. I passed a truck (always a fucking truck) in a parking lot the other day that had a bumper sticker that read, “The South Was Right”. Teaching diversity and tolerance in the classroom here who result in bomb threats.

…and people wonder why their kids move away and never come back.

Olive O'Sudden
Olive O'Sudden
5 years ago

Owen saying ‘cringeworthy’ in the first video link turns very quickly from Valley Girl to full-on Paul Lind.

Does Owen not have any friends who’ve ever told him that if he’s going to keep his hair long, the least he can do is use some fucking conditioner and groom that tangled mess before stepping in front of the camera to read his notes?

Awful Man
Awful Man
5 years ago

Bath Master is back!

Long have I waited for this day!

Tessa
5 years ago

What the hecking fuck did I just watch? I decided to click on the one about the racism and sexism faced by white dudes… Is he reading his response or somebody else’s response? It was just him reading stupid stuff in increasingly faster monotone without taking a breath.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Ugh. Eli Roth. I admit to liking Cabin Fever. But everything else he’s involved is xenophobic and misogynist trash.

zennurse
zennurse
5 years ago

I forgot to mention that Jordan also seriously hopes the movie version of My Little Pony due in 2017 is not being made by the Jem Crew or it will suck because something about source material.

You think I’m kidding, but I’m not.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

I bet he’d love to write the screenplay.

Mew York Kitty (@CCMSparkster)

@Lea I guess so. Though it is more or less the basis of the conspiracy theory that “anti-racist is code for anti-white” and that it gives people of color free rein to do whatever horrible things they want to white people. Though as far as I know, the only people who have interpreted power+prejudice as “people of color should be deemed immune to any consequences for their actions” are almost entirely white supremacists. I say almost because there are some kids on Tumblr who are ignorant about social justice theory and practice and think it means they have this immunity.

But the thing the so-called “anti-SJWs” don’t realize is that those kids are, well, kids. When I was their age, I was really ignorant about a lot of things as well. But kids grow up, and even if they don’t grow out of that mindset, they’re not going to take over the government or anything. People are seriously overreacting to these teenagers on Tumblr. Yes, I do get annoyed when someone posts something about killing white people, but I know intellectually that it’s not going to happen. But I can see why it would freak out a lot of people.

Binjabreel
5 years ago

@venny:

*points at you, and laughs derisively*

Hahaha! How cute, he doesn’t think this is exactly what every loser complaining that pointing out racism is racist does.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I’ve had the example of a sniffer dog in a Tube queue start getting a bit excited and the poor black kid behind me being asked “for a word” rather than the white guy in the three piece suit (me).

Oh yes, and then there’s the little matter of dogs who appear to be racist. They tend to pick up on the biases of their humans, including racist ones. If their humans react negatively, even fearfully, around people who look a certain way, the dogs will copy the humans’ attitude, and bark and growl at the “threatening” individual, even if that person has done nothing wrong.

And of course, police dogs would pick up on the attitudes of their trainers, whether consciously expressed or not.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

@venny

You know what? You’re right! The dictionary does say that!… But.

Did you know that, sometimes, words can have more than one meaning depending on how they’re used? Hell, you only have to scroll down a couple of lines to see it:

“A policy, system of government, etc, based upon or fostering such a doctrine.”

You right-wingers love screaming about corned texts almost as much as frozen peaches; believe it or not, “Context” isn’t just a synonym for “Shut up SJWs, I’m not listening, la la la.” Here, it actually changes the discussion! If somebody is talking about how white people aren’t affected by racism, or how police brutality in the US is almost always motivated by racism, it would only make sense for them to be using the “Systemic oppression” definition, not the “Personal bias” definition, especially in a social justice space where “Systemic oppression” is the only definition ever used.

Homophones: They aren’t what them dirty God-eating lib’ruls call you when you say all the gays should go back to Africa.

Tracy
Tracy
5 years ago

There are other Pontypool fans here! *love* Anyone seen Absentia? Not a zombie flick but a pretty darn good little horror movie.

@marinerachel I always want to give him an ends trim, a good conditioning treatment, maybe a protein pack, and then give him nice, full, bouncy waves. Not making fun, I seriously want to spa-day that fella.

I don’t know why I feel like there is hope for Owen, but I do. I am likely wrong. *sigh* He just has an Eeyore quality that makes me want to try and like him.

Tracy
Tracy
5 years ago

(if Eeyore made incomprehensible hour-long video rants from his little tub)

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@Tracy

Same here about Owen. He’s just dealt with a lot of shit and he’s not 100% the devil like Aurini is. I’m sure he’s a nice guy if he has some questionable views.

History Nerd
5 years ago

Owen has been obsessing over Gail Dines and anti-porn feminism since at least 2010 it seems. A few of the videos are around an hour or more of truly cringe worthy rambling: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA7089F8ADABDBD42

He’s also written a novel called Eros Empire which appears to be an Atlas Shrugged type of pretentious pseudo-philosophical novel about the porn industry, complete with stereotypical portrayals of anti-porn people. So at least he has lots of work experience to put on his resume.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Isn’t Venny the one who insisted that the Honey Badgers were persecuted for breaking the rules of the con and getting thrown out?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

@WWTH

I believe so!

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Tracy,
Absentia is great. Recommend to every Lovecraft fan that is disappointed in all the movie adaptations of his worse since it’s a Lovecraftesque story but more subtle and contemporary. If they ever take it off Netflix, I might have to look for the DVD on Amazon.

Christopher Rothbauer
5 years ago

The more I try to understand GamerGate, the more confused I get. It seems to boil down to a bunch of privileged straight white boys crying that various “SJWs” hurt their feelers.

themeatfreezone
5 years ago
Reply to  Big Al

To be fair, Lovecraft’s racism didn’t seem motivate him to be a shitty person people of colour.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

All I know is that Lovecraft was an anti-Semite but married a Jewish woman. That’s just confusing as fuck.

Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago

What HPL seems to have been, to me, was just flat-out xenophobic: deeply scared of anything outside of a rather narrow comfort zone of WASPy New England culture. But if he got out and met some folks he tended to be civil to them. Then his life would take a downturn and he’d retreat and become fearful again.

LordCrowstaff
LordCrowstaff
5 years ago

I think ole HPL was on the one hand deeply racist (and a whole lot of other -isms) but he was also a) too timid to actually do something about and b) too nice, or at least to well-mannered, to insult people to their faces. He fancied himself an English gentleman, after all.

And yes, dude was frightened of more or less anything that wasn’t white and anglo-saxon.

Tore
Tore
5 years ago

Heh. Before the video began it warned me of “Cartoon Violence – Crude Humor”. Turned out to be an ad for LEGO Jurassic World…

daniel_d
daniel_d
5 years ago

Owen isnt the lesser evil. He is at the same level as the rest of the MRA. He has been “following” tons of female femnazists over the years. Dont make him the “he is a nice guy, but hanging out with the wrong ppl”.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

Lovecraft was terrified of anything even slightly different from himself. He wrote stories which showed bigoted fear about Prussians, about American Southerners and Westerners, and even about the people of New England who happened to come from agricultural or fishing regions rather than his own genteel enclavr. It’s kind of hilarious. In his mind, anyone even slightly different from him was a monster. A squamous, eldritch, shuddersome monster.

KadeKo
KadeKo
5 years ago

@Lea

You got through it all? You deserve a medal!

I can’t imagine finishing this, because it proves that many people hadn’t oughta auteur YouTube clips over two minutes in duration. Editing Oscars exist out of a palpable need.

venny
venny
5 years ago

@Scented Fucking Hard Chairs

“Did you know that, sometimes, words can have more than one meaning depending on how they’re used? Hell, you only have to scroll down a couple of lines to see it:”

your definition is not in any dictionaries and is only used by people on the far left. Lea also said that it is the only definition and the dictionary is wrong.

sevenofmine
5 years ago

It’s so poetic, really. The producers of a documentary subtitled “The critic who cannot be criticized” actively working to stifle criticism of their work. Classic.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

A lot of horror is xenophobic. A lot of Algernon Blackwood’s work involved lone Englishmen encountering evil in various other countries. The French Alps, rural Hungary, rural Canada, New York City, somewhere in Germany etc.

Although I don’t the fear of the other tropes in horror are necessarily bad as long as they’re examined properly. We do sort of naturally fear unfamiliar people and places. As long as we recognize that fear for what it is and don’t let it turn to hate. It’s all good. I like a lot of backwoods/rural horror. The Willows by Blackwood is one of my favorite horror stories. The Descent is one of my favorite movies. As a lifelong city girl, there’s a lot about being in rural areas that makes me nervous. Especially at night. It’s dark. No one can hear you scream. If someone or something is chasing you, there’s no all night gas station in running distance. You’re not going to stumble onto a patrolling cop or a group of people. There’s all sorts of vegetation someone or something could hide in. Gah! I’ll never know why it’s urban areas people are afraid of! But I’m able to understand my unease in rural areas comes from a sort of primal fear of the unfamiliar that’s in us all. I’m able to not stereotype all rural people as creepy, toothless, and wanting to kill any unfortunate city folk who happen to stumble into their domain. And I think horror helps me recognize that by providing a catharsis and giving me an opportunity to analyze my fears in the safety of my own home.

And now I’m navel gazing. Sorry. Since horror and horror fans are maligned, not on this site, but generally I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about why I love the genre so much and why it’s not bad, dangerous and sick as some people think it is.

Mwa
Mwa
5 years ago

I would’ve appreciated more screen time of his shoe. It has more personality.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

@venny

Guess what, fuckwit, complex academic and political concepts like racism aren’t covered by three lines in a dictionary of the English language. Even wikipedia gives you a long-ass article on racism, much more so a lexicon of the history of concepts.

Here in the adult world, we can grasp that “racism” is a signifier for a whole range of historical, social, and political phenomena. Be it personal stereotyping, institutional discrimination, or bullshit scientific hierarchies from the 19th century, racism is geographically and historically a fact or rather, a whole range of facts that, taken together, result in the fact that stereotyping white men has no fucking consequences for white men whatsoever, whereas stereotyping women and people of color is intrinsically linked to histories of oppression and violence.

That is a fact, just like evolution, although usually called a theory, is a fact. Seriously, your argument is like one of those Intelligent design smartasses who think they’re smart by misunderstanding the academic concept of a theory.

Newt
Newt
5 years ago

venny, do you think nobody can find the “Older Comments” link?

your definition is not in any dictionaries

The definition SFHC quoted comes from the very first dictionary link you posted, dictionary.reference.com .

and is only used by people on the far left.

If you think a dictionary site is only used by people on the far left, or that that invalidates it, why did you link to it in a failed attempt to make a point?

Lea also said that it is the only definition and the dictionary is wrong.

Lea didn’t mention dictionaries, and said that it’s “the only kind […] that there are” (in the context of things that exist in the world), not “the only definition” (unicorns have a definition).

https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/06/15/bathtub-orator-jordan-owen-responds-to-critics-of-the-sarkeesian-effect-trailer-with-funny-voices-mansterics/comment-page-1/#comment-771924

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

And your use of the word “far left” rather indicates your position on the political spectrum – if mainstream concepts are “far left” from you, that tells me where you stand.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Bernardo (and anyone else who may know the answer)

A lot of the creationism BS arises because, in English, ‘theory’ has both the meanings of ‘hypothesis’ and ‘description of how something works’ Creationists of course misunderstand which version applies in ‘theory of evolution’

Just wondering whether there are languages where the equivalent of theory doesn’t have the two meanings and if so does what do creationists in that situation still try to use that tactic.

Does anyone know ?

takshak
takshak
5 years ago

@ Tracy: I loved Pontypool! dunno why, but I’m a sucker for Stephen McHattie.

it seems that there’s a bigot version of “crank magnetism”.. if they have one bigotry, they’ll have a bunch of others

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

@ Alan
it’s the same in German, although I’d say that this is also a difference between the colloquial use (“It’s just a theory”) and the academic use (theory of evolution, gender theory, marxist theory, and so on). Academics say hypothesis if they mean the first.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

Anyway, creationists argue consciously in bad faith when they confuse the two meanings. And I’d argue that venny, by using extremely short word definitions from the OED (and not even reading them correctly, because they cover our use here) and saying that a concept is not a fact, does the same.

sparky
sparky
5 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: I’m a country girl transported to the city, and it’s actually the exact opposite for me. Cities still make me feel a little claustrophobic, all the noise and strangers around. In my little rural hometown, I knew everybody. All that vegetation provides lots of places for me to hide in 🙂 You’re spot on, it’s all about fear of the unknown and unfamiliar. And horror has that possibility of examining and understanding that fear. Bringing it out in the open where it can be looked at, instead of festering away unarticulated.

Kind of OT, but I just watched a Spanish horror film called The House at the End of Time, which was really good. An interesting take on the haunted house story. I recommend it to fellow horror fans.

Is venny seriously trying to argue that white men face racism and sexism the same way that people of color experience racism and women experience sexism?

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Sparky,
I couldn’t decide from the synopsis blurb on Netflix whether or not I wanted to watch it. Now that someone recommends it, maybe I’ll watch it tonight.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Venny,comment image