Did Professional Sarkeesian-hater Davis Aurini Commit Felony Wire Fraud? Hell if I know, but he’s definitely an unethical dick.
Davis Aurini, doing his best impersonation of a cartoon villain.
On Friday, expat woman-hating woman-chaser Roosh Valizadeh put up a post on his Return of Kings blog with the sensationalized headline “Did Anita Sarkeesian Commit Felony Wire Fraud?”
Roosh breathlessly “reported” that
Two independent journalists have confirmed with the San Francisco Police Department that Anita Sarkeesian, a video game social justice warrior, may have used false pretenses to raise money for her non-profit entity. The police have said that she has not contacted them as she claimed after receiving a Twitter death threat in August. Under Federal law, this may put her on the hook for felony wire fraud.
The two “independent journalists” in question are tech journalist and self-described “fan of 4chan” Milo Yiannopoulos of Breitbart, and Davis Aurini, the cigarette-smoking, scotch-drinking, Anton LaVey-looking blogger who’s trying to raise money to make a “documentary” about the evils of Anita Sarkeesian and “social justice warriors.”
Both journalists – well, the one dude who writes for a sleazeball right-wing site and the other dude who’s not actually a journalist at all – did indeed contact the San Francisco Police Department and were told by a media spokesman that he couldn’t find a record of Sarkeesian contacting them about the threats she received in August.
This bit of “news” sent #GamerGaters and other Sarkeesian-haters around the internet into a bit of a frenzy.
But it turns out they got worked up over nothing. The police spokesman just hadn’t looked hard enough. A day after Tweeting a number of accusatory questions to Sarkeesian, Yiannopoulos had to backtrack, noting in a series of Tweets that he’d had another conversation with the SFPD, who told him that Sarkeesian had in fact reported the harassment to the FBI.
Another writer posted emails he’d gotten from the police spokesman that seemed to confirm Yiannopoulos’ updated information. In the emails, SFPD Public Information Officer Albie Esparza said that Sarkeesian had indeed contacted the SFPD in August but that the case had been handed off to the FBI. (I’ve confirmed this with Esparza .)
Given that the main “proof” that Sarkeesian was lying about the threats she said she received had just vanished into thin air, you might expect that Roosh and Aurini might, you know, correct their now-clearly incorrect posts on the subject and retract their accusations. Well, not so much.
Roosh’s post remains up, with only a brief “update” at the end, noting that “the police have changed their story and now state that they were contacted.” Aurini’s post remains unchanged, and as I write this he’s posted nothing more on the subject.
Even considering the people we’re dealing with here, the hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Roosh ends his post by declaring that
these new revelations concerning Sarkeesian show that no form of media is safe from the SJW and feminist agenda, and that we must do all the fact checking ourselves. The entire media establishment in the United States is potentially corrupt. Proceed accordingly.
Yet he refuses to frankly acknowledge that the “new revelations concerning Sarkeesian” were based on faulty information, offering instead a weasel-worded “update.”
Aurini, for his part, claims in his post to be “fight[ing] for openness and integrity within Tech and Video Game circles.” But he hasn’t bothered to update his post.
When ethical journalists discover that they were wrong about something, they acknowledge their errors and post straightforward corrections. When they get something spectacularly wrong, they apologize.
Somehow I don’t think we’ll be getting apologies from either of these guys.
And thus we get to the whole wire fraud thing. In his post, Roosh repeated a claim made by Mike Cernovich of the “game” blog Danger and Play, who tweeted:
As it turns out, there’s zero proof that Sarkeesian lied about anything here. And she made no direct connection between the threats and her Tweet asking for donations.
Indeed, by Cernovich’s logic it’s Davis Aurini, not Anita Sarkeesian, who’s guilty of felony wire fraud. Why?
Because in his post, he made a direct connection between his accusations against Sarkeesian and his own fundraising efforts. Here’s how he ended his piece:
Personally, I’d like to see a lot MORE documentation on Sarkeesian, because this isn’t the only claim she’s made which I suspect is fraudulent – and not just her, but all of the individuals hiding behind the shield of Social Justice, and the journalists who have been aiding and abetting them, culminating in outrage known as #GamerGate. That’s why Jordan Owen and myself have started a Patreon page, so that we can create a feature-length documentary about these people and their methods, and how they bully and victimize the very people they claim to support.
So please help us get this documentary made, so that we can fight for openness and integrity within Tech and Video Game circles, and expose the professional victims for the con artists that they are. Please support our documentary, The Sarkeesian Effect: Inside the World of Social Justice Warriors.
Given that Aurini now knows that his post was based on faulty information, and given that he hasn’t corrected his post or retracted his insinuations, could he now be guilty of felony wire fraud?
For what it’s worth, I don’t think so. While admittedly I’m no lawyer, Cernovich’s logic seems to me like a bit of a stretch.
I do feel safe in saying, however, that neither Roosh V. nor Davis Aurini should be lecturing anyone about ethics.
UPDATE: I confirmed with the SFPD that Sarkeesian had indeed called the SFPD and that the case was handed off to the FBI; the post has been updated to reflect that.
Posted on September 15, 2014, in #gamergate, $MONEY$, antifeminism, entitled babies, evil SJWs, expats, false accusations, harassment, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, no games for girls, no girls allowed, nonpology, PUA, reactionary bullshit, red pill, rhymes with roosh, sarkeesian!. Bookmark the permalink. 566 Comments.
But they do seem to think it does, don’t they? They really do believe that we just give everyone who isn’t a white man a complete pass on what they say. Thus “Lisa” and the whole #notyourshield “movement”.
(Which, for the record, is why I’m treating any such claims from new trolls with the utmost suspicion.)
It’s almost like, for all their talk about fighting “Social Justice Warriors”, they don’t actually know anything about us.
Upthread I speculated Armenia dismissed feminism because he didn’t really care much about other people, that seems to be confirmed.
I care about issues of oppression that don’t directly involve me. Armenia does not.
Apathy enables oppression.
Dude’s part of the problem.
If you think a light drive-by swat is “worked up”, you should never try for a real fight. You’d get creamed.
BTW, this is a very weak trolling attempt on your part. As is this:
Oh, you’re an “us” now? Is there more than one of you? And you’re telling whom, exactly, to check their privilege? And what has being trans got to do with the subject at hand? Nobody here even mentioned that, and it isn’t germane to anything else you have prattled, either. If this is some attempt at a derail, it is full of fail.
BTW, “halfwit” suits you. You think you have wits, but you’re only half right.
TERFS and Transphobia. Sigh. We still have a long way to come.
The problem with feminism and Sarkeesian in general is that it’s all about just binary gender. Specifically that.
It forces the entire conversation on any subject into a gender binary POV all the time which reinforces the already distorted view manifested in the mainstream.
Hence, check your cis privilege.
Hey everybody, remember when this dolt showed up and claimed he was a lurker?
This here proves solidly that was BS. He never saw WHTM until he dropped his first stinkbomb yesterday.
Boring trolls can’t even do the slightest due diligence.
Um, NO. Try again, Halfwit4Ever.
LOL.
Admittedly I don’t know Sarkeesian’s views on non-binary gender identities, but generally it fits in just fine with intersectional feminism, ta.
Did someone put a post on 4chan about how to Trans on the internet, like the infamous post about how to girl on the internet (“I like pink things”)?
Silly ladies, getting all passionate about trivial things like equality and respect.
Has anyone over the age of thirteen ever thought this line was clever? And has anyone of any age ever believed it?
They like to pretend they have that much power over people.
Bob Simpson, you haven’t proven that Sarkeesian lied about being a gamer. I honestly thought your video was a parody of this utterly baseless accusation, since it paired her “not that into video games” comment with twice as many comments about her playing video games as a kid. Not to mention that the entire point she and her fans are making is that they’d be a lot more interested in video games if they (both the games and the fandom) were less hostile toward women.
THIS. RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE PROBLEM. There are already women gamers, feminist gamers, gamers who are sick of the misogyny and want change. IT’S THEIR HOBBY TOO, and the way you assholes pretend they don’t even exist IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Okay. How are we being transphobic? Can you identify what, exactly, is transphobic about opposing online harrassment of women, and opposing making up outrageous claims of “wire fraud” in order to smear an outspoken woman’s reputation?
And how exactly is Anita Sarkeesian, whose video’s highlight misogyny in video games and points out the relative dearth of diversity in games, being transphobic?
And poor little Bob Simpson. Trying so hard to troll and no Inez’s paying attention to zir.
@armenia4ever
BAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAAAA *snort* *cough* *choke*
Assuming that you’re not another sockpuppeting piece of shit, you belittle the legitimate struggle of trans and gender queer people with this bullshit.
Also, *snerk* yeah, we’re the transphobic ones. Seriously TERFs have been personas non grata at every feminist event or space I’ve taken part in. Go log into call of duty or the WoW general chat and tell me how transphobic your “gamer” allies are.
@armenia4ever:
What the everloving fuck are you on about? You were the one who mentioned transpeople. There were no TERF arguments being thrown around, nor are there any now. Can you point me to a single instance of transphobia on this thread? Where is it? All I’m seeing is people calling out a self-absorbed jackass, no people making transphobic comments.
I swear, antifeminist idiots who’ve heard of the transphobic fringe ideas within feminism always pretend it’s a big gotcha to the whole movement. Just as an aside, antifeminists (such as MRAs) are notoriously worse in their treatment of transpeople, so I don’t advice you to go that route.
Oh my tap-dancing, chain-smoking, vodka-drinking, skateboarding Christ. You’re making this up as you go along, aren’t you? Not once during the whole rape and death threat hullabalooza have I heard a single voice of criticism that accuses Sarkeesian of being transexclusive and not, you know, of being a woman who criticizes misogyny in video games.
Why not? Because this is not about trans issues. This is about a woman attempting to point out misogynistic elements within a medium, and misogynistic gamerdudes trying their hardest to make up all kinds of bullshit accusations (from fraud to transphobia) in order to hide the fact that yes, all the hate and threats really are just about a woman attempting to point out misogynistic elements within a medium.
Sarkeesian did not invent the gender binary elements in video games. They were already in place, and she’s pointing them out. It’s worth having a discussion about the portrayal of transpeople in media*, but you’d have to be a derailing fuckhead to demand it of a female critic discussing misogyny and not male critics discussing… some other stuff. Apparently, women are not allowed to talk about issues that affect them specifically without taking every other group into consideration, while men are allowed to talk about whatever shit they want to talk about without anyone demanding anything from them. Funny that. And by funny, I mean fucking obnoxiously sexist.
People can care about trans issues without bringing it up in every context. Are you condemning all videos discussing other problematic elements within video games (portrayal of POC, for instance) because they don’t bring up transpeople? Of course not. Which proves that Anita Sarkeesian is not being criticized for her choice of focus, but for other issues entirely.
My everfucking genitals, you’re both pretentious and dull. Jaysus.
*For the record, I agree that games like GTA V have utterly abysmal portrayals of transpeople, but that’s to be expected from games that cater to the cishet male audience with misogynistic, homophobic and transphobic attitudes. Which means that Sarkeesian is on the right track in her criticism of such games, even though she’s not choosing to deal with those specific arguments.
I love how you went straight from “I’m being bullied” to “I’ve heard worse”. Are you even trying to be consistent?
Then again, your attempt to define “gamer” was a garbled mess in which being a gamer requires critique, but only if you’ve played an arbitrary percent of a game…honest to god, it made so little sense I’m wondering if it was even supposed to. I think you might just be nonsense trolling.
Also: dude, there are trans people here, including trans dudes who game, so IDK what you think you’re winning by trotting that out. I wish LBT was feeling better, he’d fucking pwn you right now.
Whoops, guess I hallucinated all those nonbinary feminists I used to hang out with (mostly while tabletop gaming – hope that didn’t blow your mind).
And I suppose we collectively hallucinated the nb folks on this very site. Can we at least agree to keep imagining them? I liked hallucinating pictures of Argenti’s axolotl.
@James Yakura
I refuse to believe that anyone has actually made it through character creation in FATAL, let alone actually played a whole session.
JUST LEAVE ME MY FANTASIES
Axolotl, axolotl all out free! *sings*
Bobby: BTW, I don’t want her to stop making her videos. The more she exposes herself as an intellectually vapid clown, the less headway she makes into videogames, a hobby that wants nothing to do with her.
That’s why that open letter in support got no one to sign it… oh, wait it got more than 2,000 signatures from developers*
That’s why Tim Schaefer called her names… Oh shit, he said she was right.
It’s why Steve Jaros said “VOlition Games won’t change a thing”… Damn.. what he said was, ““I actually tweeted out the link to the video yesterday about women as background objects and said that every game developer should watch this and sometimes is guilty of it,” he said. “I think that [Sarkeesian's] right in that case.”
So… it’s not “video gaming” (which is larger than “gamers”, who now make up a minority of players) that doesn’t want anything to do with her. It’s hateful shits who are upset their fantasy worlds where women are objects, not people, is changing, and blamer her for it.
*you know, the people who MAKE the games.
Nationalist Dude:Halfwit. I like it. This is almost like online bullying.
Note, these insults are nothing to us trans folks. We’ve experienced much worse.
Check your cis privilege.
Fail.
If you want to claim some aspect of discrimination, membership in the class has to be known. Otherwise (this is what privilege is all about) the assumption is that one belongs to the the class, “normal” (for whatever valule normal has in the community).
Then the treatment must be related to the covalen aspects of the class, and the ignorance/denial of experience of class members by the non-class member.
To no one’s surprise you did none of those things.
Nomenclature, yer doin’ it wrong.
Holy shit, armenia4ever might be one of the most dishonest trolls we’ve ever had around here.
Kookaburra, axolotl, kookaburra, axolotl!
I can keep singing…
http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php <- armenia4ever
You don’t own gaming.
#GamerGate doesn’t own gaming.
You don’t speak for me.
Fuck you.
seraph
Must be this. Claiming to be trans, rejecting binary gender, and manically anti-feminist? That kind of cognitive dissonance is just…no.
Kookaburra, axolotl!
So… we are the nasty anti-trans people, who hate them.
You are defending your natural allies, Gamers: who are so accepting and inclusive of anyone, regardless of their gender, gender-presentation, etc.
They would never dream of hating on someone for critiquing aspects of their hobby, esp. not aspects which demeaned, diminished and dismissed entire classes of people who are just as they like to imagine themselves.
Nope, they would never attack someone like that.
Just throw out a TERF accusation. It’s the only thing that makes evil SJW feminazis feel bad! They’ll agree with anything you say if they are scared they’ll be called TERFs!
Armenia,
If you’re actually trans (thanks to the 4chan sockpuppet aspect of this whole thing I’m skeptical of any claim to a minority status) and are actually concerned about trans issues in gaming, make your own videos about it. Or blog about it. Share your work with enough people that your “real gamer” buddies find out about. I’m sure they would never give you the same treatment they gave Sarkeesian.
Sorry, “who are not just as they like to imagine themselves”.
Must get coffee.
To clarify, I meant I’m skeptical of the claims obvious trolls make to minority status. Not skeptical of clear non-trolls.
@Pecunium
“Nationalist Dude.” I like that! I’ll use that for Mr. Halfwit from now on. Unless he’s perma-flounced quietly. (He hasn’t pulled a full meltdown yet, just lame non-sequitors indicating general lack of awareness of the topic at hand. I’m interested to see if we’re dealing with a “Lisa”-style sock-puppet)
Now, now, WWTH, that’s just rude. You’re actually suggesting armenia4ever does something besides whine about why some woman isn’t doing their activism for them?
For shame.
Armenia, I say this as a gender-non-binary person.
Also as someone who was married to a trans woman.
Fuck you, you’re a fucking hypocrite.
You expect us to care about your manfeels without giving a flying fuck about us.
You pull out the trans card, thinking that this is going to get you off the hook for acting like a jackass.
We aren’t hating on you for being trans, it’s about you acting like a douchenozzle.
“As a hedgehog astronaut, I have faced worse insults. I can’t believe the erinaceinaephobia I’m seeing here. Check your human- and gravity-privilege!”
Yup, that makes about as much sense and bears as much relation to the actual conversation here as what Armenia4ever is saying. Note: I am not saying A4e is not trans. But I am saying zie is fundamentally dishonest.
See, to me, “professional victim” implies that Sarkeesian is, in some way, raking in money from her victimization. But when I asked for some explanation of this, our troll just skipped away from it and disavowed any knowledge of how this hustle works.
Clearly Troll4Evah just uses words, and what they mean is less important. Calling Sarkeesian a “professional victim” sounds like a snappy insult, so it gets thrown out there, and the meaning of those words is not so relevant.
So I think it’s clear that when Troll4Evah calls zirself “trans” it could mean what we would normally think of as “trans,” or it could just be a word that was thrown out there because it sounds snappy and there is no meaning behind it at all. Troll4Evah’s relationship with words is haphazard, and no assumptions should be made.
Professional victim is a moderately widespread term of dismissal. It’s used to imply that someone belongs to an oppressed group; one the accuser will admit has legitimate grievances, but that this person isn’t addressing actual problems.
Instead they are taking advantage of those real problems to create problems where there were none before, and so create drama/turmoil where there was none. Then they parlay that to fame/money.
Al Sharpton is accused of it. Sarkeesian is being accused of it. It’s a handy piece of rhetoric (and a dog-whistle). It manages to say that not only is this person a fake, but they are a fake who is manufacturing social strife where all was comity and sweet accord.
So the problem they are addressing is not only not real, it’s designed to make people feel guilty when they did nothing wrong.
People who use it, are either deluded, stupid, or evil (combinatory effects, of course, magnify each of those traits).
Again, check your cis privilege feminists.
The fact that everything has to be about a lack of recognition or attention to binary gender is why I dislike feminism. Its bad for society. Stop concentrating on binary gender and look beyond.
Judging by the comments on here, transphobia and feminism will alwa be intertwined because you can’t see past binary gender.
Nationalist Dude, you’ve already said that fifty posts ago.
Actually, fuck this troll. I’ll put on a dress, it makes me feel much happier than playing with this chew toy.
Non-binary AMAB signing off.
Well, this is a whole new way to frame anti-feminism. “It’s bad not to look past binary gender therefore misogyny against cis women doesn’t matter! Don’t talk about misogyny or you’re a TERF!”
That’s not how intersectionality works troll boy.
@Policy of Madness:
Makes sense (relatively speaking, I mean). Considering that MRAs (A) believe in “victim privilege”, (B) are shielded from harassment and abuse by their privilege, (C) express a total lack of willingness to listen to and empathize with oppressed groups and (D) are usually libertarians with the typical bootstraps mentality that comes with it, it’s not too far-fetched to assume that anti-feminists in general can’t conceive of anyone being the target of abuse without cashing in on it somehow.
Actually, yes it is. The truth, I think, is far scarier: they know exactly how bad things are for the targets of abuse and just how privileged they are for not experiencing it, but they don’t care. Worse, they derive enjoyment from the power trip they get from abusing less privileged people. All their outrage over made-up things like “professional victims” and whatnot is just fluff, a way to derail any conversation that could threaten their privilege. Like Trolly on this thread, they lie and gaslight to obscure things that are in plain sight while pretending they have a genuine issue they wish to discuss.
I just… it’s just really scary to imagine what kind of a terrible person can live like that.
Nationalist Dude:The fact that everything has to be about a lack of recognition or attention to binary gender is why I dislike feminism. Its bad for society. Stop concentrating on binary gender and look beyond.
What are you on about.
This piece is about misogyny (and the hypocrisy of these misogynists). Nowhere has anyone said trans-women aren’t women, or that misogyny doesn’t affect them.
So your blather is peurile, facile and imbecile. It’s not relevant to the topic. That you wish to pretend that us not going, “oh… your trans, sorry for calling you on your shit, keep on being an asshole defending misogynists, dismissing valid critique because you don’t like who says it (as apart from actually engaging it, and attempting to show it to be in error on its merits), is banal.
It’s magical thinking (the sort three year-olds engage in). Sorry Charlie; you are fundamentally wrong (in that you accept ad hominem as a reason to dismiss people, hell, you promote ad hominem as a reason to dismiss people, and boast of it, as if it made you some sort of special snowflake. Nope, just makes you another twit who thinks logic comes with having a male image for an avatar.
Flail, flail more, bro.
Someone learned some new words and phrases and is taking them out for a test drive.
Aaaand once again, armenia4ever fails to address anyone’s points or to make a meaningful contribution to the conversation. Instead, zie believes that reiterating a tired talking point over and over again magically increases the validity of said point.
I’m done with their bullshit. Have fun, y’all.
And, with that I need to put on a skirt, get some coffee, play a bit of video game before the event times out (I need to gain another few hundred slots on the leaderboard for the rewards I want to collect). I’ll be back later to see you say, “check your privilege again”, because folly is the idea that continuing a failed like of attack will be successful this time.
It’s how casino’s make money, people who think they understand stats, and probability (i.e. LOGICAL THINKERS) throw good money after bad.
Knowing what we do now, about Troll4Evah’s disregard for the fact that words have meaning, I think we need a decoder ring to fully understand statements like this.
However, lacking a ring, I think a safe interpretation of this would be, “My derail isn’t working. Why isn’t my derail working??? Feminists are supposed to fall all over themselves for me if I claim to be trans! THE MANUAL SAID THIS WOULD WORK!”
*poke* kookaburra. Axolotl. Hedgehog :P
(OK, yes, I’m, bored rl)
gilshalos:
You’re making more sense than Troll4Ever, gilshalos :)
Ok, so how has anyone here or Anita Sarkeesian about “the lack of recognition ir attention to binary gender?” Do you even know what those words mean? Because this reads like a mishmash of buzzwords.
Are you truly trying to argue that pointing out misogyny is transphobic?
armenia doesn’t realize they’re sounding just like some radfems. Whoops.
@Nationalist Dude:
You’re a standard-issue misogynist with terrible reading comprehension. Go away, you have nothing to contribute and you… are… so… boring.
This new shtik Nationalist Dude is trying* reminds me of the sovereign citizens. “If I string these speshul werds together in the right order, they become a cheat code for reality!” It’s ceremonial magic for lazy, dull people.
*And he is trying. Oh so trying.
Dude looks like the villian Kane from the Command & Conquer games (video game reference holla!).
Doesn’t armenia4ever’s argument boil down to “you anti-racists are the real racists, because you keep bringing up skin color when it shouldn’t matter”?
… do they even know what transphobia and cis privilege are?
This is how it works:
You’re acting like an asshole.
Nobody gets a free pass on asshole behavior around here.
If this dude won’t address his disingenuous behavior we ought to stop engaging him or have David boot him.
But axolotl are always awesome!
We never brought up your transness, and don’t think it matters.
You brought it up.
Since you did…
I really find it interesting that you lived part of your life as a female and yet seem not to have any qualms about what sort of crap female-bodied people get put through by society.
I can’t say the sexual abuse was a strictly female thing, that happens to lots of boys…I can say being forced to wear dresses and later, bras that hurt, that was a female thing.
I think getting my tits groped in high school was a female thing.
Getting a dick flashed at me when I was 12, probably female…as an adult I once had an adult man who was so angry that I wouldn’t talk to his drunk ass on the street punch a street sign…I was denied a work position I wanted because ” the client wants a man to work nights out here.”
At one job this creepy-ass guy would not stop talking to my tits, and they’re not even big tits.
You probably find all that shit funny because it didn’t happen to you. Yuck it up, dickface.
Oh, forgot to mention, innumerable creeptastic guys who think nagging me for a half hour will change the ” no ” I just gave them. Nope, now I wonder if you’re gonna beat me up or rape me because I said no and hurt your manfeels.
@ justakind –
Then, by all means, please do so. We aren’t stopping you. Neither is Anita Sarkeesian. Neither is David. Neither is anyone else, except you. Rebut Anita’s videos with thoughtful, well reasoned critiques of your own. Just, please, for Dog’s sake, stop posting whiny stuff on other people’s blogs about how much you hate Anita. Learn to argue the issues, not the person (or what you think the person is) and you’ll sound way more like a real grown-up.
@ armenia4ever – no one here knew you were trans before you outed yourself. They have all been arguing the issues and the stupid stuff you’ve been saying, rather than attacking your gender.
If I do, will I see a substantive argument in any of the crap you’ve been saying so far?
@ Cassie’sMajorDomo
Actually I think it probably means that armenia4ever saw the giant blowup over Ally’s past behavior/subsequent discussion about how to handle that kind of behavior on this blog and thought, hey, I can leverage that.
I don’t think anyone aware of context actually believes transphobia is what was at play when Ally’s conduct was rigorously criticized. That was just her attempt at dismissing opinions contrary to or critical of hers – we’re all TERFs! There’s no support for the accusation.
Good attempt at using one person’s bad behavior as ammunition against the entirety of the board though!
I just find it hilarious that this is the most trans*/non-binary friendly place I frequent on the internet, and we have this douchecanoe trying to argue trans* persecution. If we’re hating on you for being a disingenuous asshole and we don’t know your gender identity, we can’t be hating on you for being trans*. It’d be like me suddenly arguing that anybody who’s ever disagreed with me on the internet is a bird-hater, because I’m actually a duck – if nobody knows I’m a duck, by definition they can’t be prejudiced against me on that basis, can they?
Not sure if I’ve ever seen such a clumsy attempt to use the language of discussing oppression against those who are opposed to it. Although I will grant that “discussing issues that affect women is trans*/non-binary exclusive, so you’re the REAL bigots!” is a derail attempt I’ve never seen before. Possibly because it’s colossally silly and requires a complete lack of understanding of how many feminists see the gender binary and the oppression of women as part of the same problem.
@ justakind –
Then do it, won’t you? Seriously, for the love of Dog, do it. I would love to see more well thought out and researched critiques of games, please. Go ahead, do it. Anita’s not stopping you. David’s not stopping you. No one here is stopping you. And please, argue the issues, not the person (or whatever you think the person is) won’t you?
@ armenia4ever – I did not see any transphobia on this thread, and I still don’t. You’re the one who tried to use your own gender as a get out of jail free card. (FWIW, I personally think TERF doctrine is horrid). Every one jumped on you because you were saying stooopid things, not because of your gender (which I didn’t even try to guess at until you brought it up). I also doubt that anyone here knew your gender until you mentioned it. Please, please show me the transphobia in this thread. Pretty please with sugar on.
InsanityBytes attempted to argue that if we told her that her arguments were wrong it must be because we’re misogynists, which was a similar flavor of troll fail.
Trolls today are so lazy.
InsanityBytes was unpleasant on many levels.
She reminds me of Judgy Bitch, like if you genespliced her with Sunshine Mary.
Back in my day, trolls had to work hard! Those goats didn’t just fall off the bridges, you know. Someone had to get up off their butts and push them! These young trolls today think they can just spew on their keyboards and all the goats will just come up and cook themselves! Lazy, no-good, modern trolls! Also, get out of my med cart!
::shakes fist angrily and limps away with her walker to answer the call bell::
Ewwww… Thanks, cassandrakitty, now I’m going to have nightmares. ::pulls the blanket over head and sucks thumb while whimpering::
They need to go back to troll school and retake the troll equivalent of first grade.
If you click on Armenia4ever’s name and check out his blog you will come to a post called Tumblr: where the really wild things of privilege dwell. In this post he says:
and:
I don’t think this person is trans at all. He just thinks it’s amusing to tell all us SJW’s to check our privilege. Haha, isn’t he clever?
Pretty obvious the troll hasn’t seen any of Anita’s videos if they assume she hasn’t addressed the issues of the gender binary. The episode of the “Ms. Male” character covered that when talking about the arbitrary nature of gendered signifiers on characters when marking them as female.
I think I need an asshole to English translation for “contradiction theory”. And yeah, anyone whose trolldar didn’t immediately start ringing the moment trolly tried the whole “we trans people” thing needs to take theirs in to the shop for repairs.
Actually, I doubt they’d make it past troll kindergarten. Ah, I remember how all the little trolls had to line up in their little troll uniforms and be inspected. If you didn’t pass inspection, you had to go sit in the Naughty Spot, a horrid place full of butterflies and sunlight, where gentle meadow breezes wafted the scent of wild flowers. A true punishment for naughty little trolls! Then we had to learn the trollabet and recite the trolls tables. No slip ups or off to the Naught Spot! Then we had to devour a goat whole. You modern trolls couldn’t keep up! They need a calculator just to count the Billy Goats Gruff! I blame the guberment! and standardized testing!