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The Book of Laughter and Castration

Some gals are afraid that people are going to laugh at them.

Actually, some gals are afraid that people are going to laugh at them.

Listening in on conversations amongst Men’s Rights Activists is often like taking a brief journey into an alternate universe, where cats are dogs and water is dry and men are the most oppressed creatures on planet earth.

Over in the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day, some of the regulars seem to have just discovered a famous feminist quotation, a paraphrase of something Margaret Atwood once wrote:

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.

A number of the Men’s Rights Redditors were indignant that anyone could possibly suggest that women have more to fear from men than the other way around. And so, collectively, they came up with a rebuttal of sorts.

OneBigCosmicHorror began by suggesting that the real fear men have of women is much more primal:

OneBigCosmicHorror 17 points 6 days ago  I don't know who first said this, but that person is obviously an idiot. The biggest male fear is not a fear that women will laugh at us. Fear of castration will always be the most primal male-specific fear.

Ah, but isn’t being laughed at basically the same as castration?

indigoanasazi 2 points 6 days ago  Being laughed at is -social- castration.

Indigoanasazi explained:

indigoanasazi 3 points 6 days ago  Well, it's more like...the psychological fear of castration is a fear of loss of social status.  After all, women are afforded social status by default due to their value to society as childbearers.  Men have to compete to gain any status, so when approaching a woman, there is a risk of status loss.  The fear of castration is a metaphor for male status. Men have to fight to be considered men. And it can be lost and taken away by something as trivial as a woman spreading rumors or humiliating you.

Oh, you silly ladies with your fears of being killed by men. We men face an even greater peril — the ever-present threat of laugh-castration!

 

 

 

 

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Posted on August 15, 2014, in antifeminism, drama kings, evil sexy ladies, evo psych fairy tales, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, post contains sarcasm, reddit and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 225 Comments.

  1. I just wish I could walk in other peoples shoes. To truly believe that that ‘reverse racism’ is a thing and indeed a more important thing than actual racism. To actually believe that there’s a massive feminist conspiracy to castrate all men. I wish I could experience that world view so as to better understand it. That’s all. It’s clear the mrm is made up of bitter miserable losers but I still want to experience it, to see how it compares to my experience of reality.

  2. emilygoddess - MOD

    I’ve totally had revenge fantasies about castrating men? When yr dealing with men who’ve bought into toxic hypermasculinity 110%, treat their dick like a sacred talisman and hold anything associated with women/vulvas/femininity/”receptive” sexuality in contempt, cutting the damned thing off starts to look really appealing.

    *content note: violence*

    There’s an issue of Hothead Paisan: Homicidal Lesbian Terrorist where some guy on the street tries to tell her that his dick will “fix” her or w/e, so she cuts it off and takes it home to try to figure out what’s so magical about it.

    Do I need to include a disclaimer that I don’t actually support lopping bits off of street harassers? Because I don’t support that.

  3. *pops head in*

    Hi, I’ve been busy cleaning and doing fish stuff and getting ready for an axolotl, but someone requested a Welcome Package? Here you go — http://artistryforfeminismandkittens.wordpress.com/the-official-man-boobz-complimentary-welcome-package/

    *goes back to making a sponge filter an axolotl can’t eat*

    Ps, Borg folks, expect Borg stuff in the near future, it’s somewhere between that filter and cleaning my desk on my to do list.

    Pps, thank the gods I have to log into WP, because iOS auto filled not just my email, but my nym as my legal name — I damned near had a heart attack when I saw that only after pressing post!

    ——

    On topic…nope. Can’t deal with this shit. Any of it. Swimming critters? Those I can deal with! (Puff and the gobies are getting on great, I’ve actually witnessed Puff and a goby for the same bit of food and Puff respond by either ignoring the goby and swimming faster, or darting towards a different bit of food — hasn’t gone after the gobies at all since the first day they invaded his tank)

    …I’m gonna stop interrupting with my random fish stuff and get back to work >.<

  4. Because I don’t support that.

    HA!! Nice try MOD, but I have personally witnessed you laughing gleefully at any number of men on this very blog itself. Do you deny that this is one of the very reasons that you’ve been elevated to moderator of this forum? J’accuse, déesse!!

  5. p.s. Did the comment you guys are responding to get modded, or am I just that blind?

  6. Also, hey Argenti!!!

  7. RE: Orion

    It’s less likely to have been sexual abuse, but I think physical abuse toward cis/het men is often tied in with mockery of gender performance.

    Yes but still, again, getting triggered over past abuse < ACTUAL ABUSE. Also, I really don't think getting laughed at makes many cishet dudes abreact their prior castrations.

    RE: Karalora

    Guys talk about how such-and-so is bad because “It makes me feel like less of a man!” but why is “a man” such a vitally important thing to be?

    *cringe* Back when I was a young blowhard, I felt that if I were just male enough, I’d never be raped or abused again. Of course, that was total horseshit, but one that a lot of folks (including myself) wanted me to believe. It was the magical thinking that if I just tried hard enough, I could abuse-proof myself, and it gave me some ounce of control over things. It wasn’t that abuse was something that just happened; it was just that I was a [slur] [slur] [slur] who couldn’t protect himself!

    Of course, I never felt like a real man. I always felt like a fraud, so you know. And then I discovered feminism and realized that gender performance is no reason to hurt someone, and I lived gayly ever after, the end.

  8. @Shadow: I just checked – just got up – and it got removed. The username combined with the comment made me wonder if it was an MRA pretending to be female.

  9. LBT,
    “Yes but still, again, getting triggered over past abuse < ACTUAL ABUSE."

    Agreed. Also, I didn't mean to imply that most cismale abuse victims are triggered simply by being laughed at. I was intending to comment on the subthread about how gender performance becomes so important to so many men. I really just wanted to point out that cis/het men may well have the same feelings you describe about masculinity as a protective talisman.

    Nobody i being socially castrated, that I know of.

  10. “I just wish I could walk in other peoples shoes. To truly believe that that ‘reverse racism’ is a thing and indeed a more important thing than actual racism. To actually believe that there’s a massive feminist conspiracy to castrate all men. I wish I could experience that world view so as to better understand it. That’s all. It’s clear the mrm is made up of bitter miserable losers but I still want to experience it, to see how it compares to my experience of reality.”

    I don’t think it can be done. To get to MRAland you have to believe, really believe, that the vast majority of women sit around all day eating bon-bons and dreaming up fiendish new ways of subjugating, humiliating, spermjacking, castrating (presumably in that order), and even dismembering men. It seems to me that requires either (1) an extremely restricted acquaintance with actual women (almost all of whom have far more important things to do with their time) or (2) a superhuman capacity for “willing suspension of disbelief”. That’s why I always ask, do these guys actually know any actual women?
    However, if you want to try to make the journey, I recommend that you should first stock up on at least a thousand cute animal pictures and videos (or whatever other type of brain bleach you favor), ’cause you’re gonna need it.

  11. actual women (almost all of whom have far more important things to do with their time)

    This is true. Fribs has already required a couple of hours of quality lap time and is now complaining about the interruption. I haven’t had time to do any subjugating, humiliating, spermjacking, castrating or dismembering today.

  12. Well, kitteh, you’re just going to have to work it into your schedule somehow. I know misandry is a heavy burden, but it’s your duty.
    My wife is off in Austria for 2.5 weeks, so I have to serve the needs of her kitty too. Ah, the trials of the servants of the Furrinati!

  13. Phoenician in a time of Romans

    My wife is off in Austria for 2.5 weeks, so I have to serve the needs of her kitty too.

    I just tell my wife I’m selling him for medical experiments and she doesn’t dare leave me alone with him.

  14. If I did that I WOULD be castrated — as a preparation for being roasted on a spit over an open fire with an apple in my mouth.

  15. ::sigh:: You’re right, GrumpyOldMan, I’m going to have to manage it all somehow. I don’t want to be hauled up before the Feminist High Council for dereliction of duty.

    Phoenican, I hope your kitteh doesn’t understand English.

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