(I feel bad leaving the first comment here because it de-rails the carry-over from the last conversation, but here is my first official Hi There! I live in Londinium with four furrinati overlords who think it is ok to vomit on my things and sit in my pasta occasionally. They don’t actually belong to me, but that’s a story for another time…)

Congratulations, LBT!

Welcome to pendraegon and saphy :)

Thanks for the congrats, guys! It’s only $50 for me (they’re a tight strapped clinic, and so they’re getting my cheapest stuff) but still! $50 is $50! And hopefully it’ll be a start of a more longrunning relationship!

Thanks for the advice so far, y’all.

My main concern is that MRM-affiliated conferences usually result in at least one specific protester being singled out and tormented for weeks, months or years. The idea of this continuing bothers me to no end.

My other concern is that AVFM has a history of dragging conference type things through the muck–see the Double Tree and all the journalists reporting on ICMI14.

AVFM has a track record of making academic ventures like this just…horrible. And this one is in my back yard.

It’s just a box-cutter wielding, fire alarm pulling crap-a-thon in the making. It’s beyond clear that this conference will not address education for men, but rather oppression of women.

Elam has already said he will be talking about the “rape hysteria crisis” or some garbage.

Beside that, the guy whose group is hosting it is…at the risk of “creep shaming,” really creepy. He is down with doxxing, has some really Roger-esque ideas about sexual politics and thinks street harassment is a compliment.

@chimisaur–

Here is a DoNotLink to the AVFM article.

http://www.avoiceformen.com

pally: for some reason your URL behaved weirdly for me (taking me to a page that showed how to enable cookies), but this one works:

http://www.bergeredefrance.com/

On a different note, made a third book mockup. I think I am getting the hang of Coptic stitch binding, and it turns out a wrap-around spine label is both feasible and helpful if the book isn’t just a blank journal. You can see the various books here:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.701667973212541.1073741828.100001080340239&type=1&l=2a18669fac

@pallygirl – oh good, I thought I was somehow messing up Firefox!

Song suggestions:

Foreigner – Cold As Ice (about gold diggers)
Black Sabbath – Walk Away (about spermjackers)
Electric Light Orchestra – Don’t Bring Me Down (about man distressed by his wife having agency)

Also a Friend-Zone/Break-Up Boohoo song:

“It’s Cool, We Can Still Be Friends,” Bright Eyes.

On a personal note, I am super bummed that Conor Oberst has become the “false accusation” super hero of the MRA clan. All bullshit aside, his music played a large part in me not killing myself in high school. Oh how the mighty fall.

@Leum

In news of Leum, I continue to toy around with gender and gender identity. I’m fairly sure at this point that I’m agender, not male, but I don’t really know how I feel about pronouns yet. Thankfully my real name is gender-neutral, so that’s not an issue. No real problem with using the men’s room, thankfully. Still trying to work out the difference between a massive amount of cis and male privilege meaning I don’t need to notice my gender and not actually having one, so there’s that. So far everyone I’ve told has been supportive, but it’s mostly been internet friends.

If you don’t identify as male or masculine, then you don’t have male privilege, and you certainly don’t have any cis privilege, either. Not even if you are perceived as cis and/or male. In fact, since you’re an AMAB (assigned male at birth) trans person, you face transmisogyny – the same form of oppression I face for being a trans woman. You might not experience it just like transfeminine people like me, but it’s still there.

By the way, contrary to popular belief, you can be agender and use whatever pronouns you want for yourself. (In case that’s why you’re confused about pronouns, since I know it’s easy to get confused about that.)

(I’m writing this in a hurry so I’m sorry if any of my explanations sound weird to you.)

Manosphere songs:

“Under My Thumb” – Rolling Stones
“Love Me Dead” – Ludo
“I Will Possess Your Heart” – Death Cab for Cutie
“Somebody That I Used to Know” – Gotye
“Awkward” – San Cisco

Holy cats, WatermelonSugar, you’re in the Nashville area? I have family up there, I’m usually up at least twice a year. I’m going to have to hit you up for recommendations for stuff to do next time I’m planning a visit. I love my cousins and aunts, but their idea of a fun time is church and shopping, neither of which do much for me.

@Flying Mouse–

Yeah! Let me know what you are in to. The Frist is pretty awesome if you like art. The Belcourt is a great indie movie house if that is your thing. Edwin-Warner park is a beaaaautiful park if you like nature. The Downtown Library looks like Gringotts from Harry Potter and often hosts cool authors. Hillsboro Village is fun and arty and full of great coffee places and bookstores, if a little over-run with super cool kids.

I do mostly boring stuff, obviously.

Strivingally, my suggestion is “Walk Like a Man” by the Four Seasons.

Watermelonsugar, that all sounds quite fun to me. There can be advantages to having a low stimulus threshold.