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Who designed A Voice for Men’s new commemorative coins, Judy Chicago?

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This is a picture of A Voice for Men’s new commemorative coin. No, really, they have a commemorative coin. It was designed by Peter Vinczer, father of A Voice for Men’s Attila Vinczer, possibly — I suspect — with the help of Judy Chicago. The coins cost $58.88, and will be issued in a first edition of 10,000.

In the comments to AVFM’s announcement, six people have proudly announced that they’ve purchased a coin. So get yours quickly, because there are only 9,994 left before the first edition runs out!

The only real question is what exactly is being depicted on the coin:

Is it:

1) An otter in a manhole

2) A man levitating a carrot over a milkshake

3) A vagina

4) A vagina

5) Come on, it’s obviously a vagina

ANSWER: I have no fucking clue. Seriously, I’ve been staring at this for like ten minutes and I have no idea what on earth this could be. What is the round thing? Why is there a tiny hand? If that thing above the circle thing is a raindrop or a teardrop or whatever, why is it upside-down? Why would AVFM issue a goddamn commemorative coin in the first place.

I do know one thing, though: If you can afford to waste $$58.88 on this piece of crap, you are not oppressed in any way. And you should probably have your right to vote stripped from you.

Just kidding about that last bit. You should still be allowed to vote even if you buy vagina coins from a dude named Attila.

 

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Posted on July 12, 2014, in a voice for men, creepy, MRA, vaginas. Bookmark the permalink. 393 Comments.

  1. kittehserf MOD

    Same here. I don’t light candles at all – too sensitive to smoke, too much chance they’d get knocked over, and no reason to light them anyway, earthside. Plus pretty well any candles you buy here are made in China, and I have no confidence that there isn’t lead in the wicks.

  2. I’m also paranoid about starting a fire. You know those “romantic” scenes where they have candles and normally billowing drapes, I just sit there thinking “fire hazard”. And then I don’t notice what’s going on in the scene.

  3. kittehserf MOD

    I tend to look at night scenes where everything’s lit by one candle and wonder why anyone bothered to use other forms of lighting when candles are so amazingly powerful. :P

  4. I’m generally allergic to incense – it sets me off sneezing instantly – but I was in a shop & commented that their incense hadn’t set me off. The owner said that she had heard this from a lot of people and understood it was the impurities in commercial incense. She only stocked very pure ranges. I. wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same for scented candles and that a lot of the commercial ones are filled with similar impurities to commercial incense,

  5. Hmm… I will look into that, that’s a very useful point.

  6. emilygoddess - MOD

    “watching bras in the laundry”

    Wha? Who said what about watching bras?

    I’m also paranoid about starting a fire. You know those “romantic” scenes where they have candles and normally billowing drapes, I just sit there thinking “fire hazard”. And then I don’t notice what’s going on in the scene.

    Ditto, plus having had a fire in my college dorm makes me never want to repeat the experience. LED for me please, when I even use candles. And also, yeah, the scents tend to make my sinuses hurt (as do many perfumes and any smoke, even my beloved campfire smoke). I never used to have these problems, and my allergist thinks it’s ’cause I spent most of my life in the countryside, but you’d think four damn years in the city would be enough time to adjust.

    Re Gretchen/Dikotome, her comment as Gretchen was posted first and probably went into moderation, which would explain her second comment (the one in this thread) asking why. Still doesn’t explain the “but I’m a thinking woman!”, the name change, or why she jumped threads to ask, but so far none of that adds up to “troll” to me.

    Also, putting MOD in my nym didn’t trigger moderation. But you have the option of changing either your username or your display name, and I chose the latter. Kittehs?

  7. Dunno if the “guess what it is” convo has moved on or not, but I had a sudden realization. Its a condom turned inside out, with the hand ready to sperm jack. Its a symbol of men’s oppression (lol)

  8. Wha? Who said what about watching bras?

    Mr. Al was once pretending to be a girl but gave the game away when he excitedly talked about seeing a bra in the dorm laundry room once.

  9. Emilygoddess — if you changed your nym in the admin panel, and kitteh changed hers in the little box below the comment box, then I would imagine WP would mod queue her and not you. Cuz WP (when in doubt, blame wordpress)

  10. RE: Argenti

    I think Cassandra’s been here longest, but I have no idea who came first with her, Katz, cloudiah and pecunium.

    That sounds about right. I know kirbywarp and emilygoddess predate me too.

    (Also, the plants you gave Sneak are doing well! Where did you get those little fertilizer sticks, zie wants to get some for zer other plants.)

  11. At this point I have to hand in my feminist card because I don’t like scented fucking candles. Unless they’re a very light vanilla scent. Otherwise, my hay fever plays up badly.

    I was asking in another thread about getting a scented fucking candle waiver. I think a small stamp that says “sfc waiver” to be stamped on the back of the card would do.

    I especially hate candles scented to smell like food, which is unfortunately a thing now. I also get headaches just walking down the laundry detergent aisle at the supermarket.

  12. She only stocked very pure ranges. I. wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the same for scented candles and that a lot of the commercial ones are filled with similar impurities to commercial incense,

    This makes no sense. It’s not horrible artificial chemicals that give me hayfever – it’s the pure natural flowers. I can believe that whoever designs/makes her incense takes care to choose ingredients that aren’t allergenic, but to say it’s because they are more pure is just silly.

    It reminds me of a sign I saw on some pink Himalayan rock salt, saying it was better for you because it was more pure. Er dude – if it were pure it’d be white – it’s the impurities in pink salt that make it pink.

    end rant. Sorry, I just don’t like the naturalistic fallacy, especially when it’s used to market things.

  13. I’ve been lurking for years, commenting sporadically as job and family life permit. I found this blog when Ami and Cliff Pervocracy were still commenting and I’m pretty sure Cassandra, Pecunium and Cloudiah were all there. Then I dropped off the radar due to new baby and when I came back, there had been a massive upheaval and a mostly new crowd.

  14. I think the design looks like a puddle of extra-runny diarrhea going down a drain. The hand is throwing a plug into the drain to stop it, just like AVFM exists to keep the mental diarrhea of the MRAs from swirling down the drain of the internet.

    ~*~*~*~*~*~

    twincats sez:

    I also get headaches just walking down the laundry detergent aisle at the supermarket.

    Same here. And my bedroom window is next to five floors worth of dryer exhaust and my neighbors all seem to love extra scented dryer sheets. No, seriously, they make those. They should be illegal along with plug-in air “fresheners.”

  15. I’m fine with scents but it has to be in moderation I guess. Or maybe there are specific ingredients I react poorly to. I’ve never had a problem with using scented candles, shampoo, deodorant or lotion. But if I go into a whole store full of scented stuff, like Bath and Body Works my eyes get runny, red and itchy. The same thing happened when I went to opening night of – this will piss of the trolls – the Sex and the City movie and it was crammed full of women wearing various perfumes and scented products because a lot of people dressed up for it for some reason.

  16. It’s not horrible artificial chemicals that give me hayfever – it’s the pure natural flowers.

    Yeah, I don’t get it either. I don’t get hay fever as badly as I used to, but Spring used to turn me into a snot factory. I’m allergic to most perfumes and perfumed products, but I can handle essential oils just fine.

    I’ve been lurking for years, commenting sporadically as job and family life permit. I found this blog when Ami and Cliff Pervocracy were still commenting and I’m pretty sure Cassandra, Pecunium and Cloudiah were all there. Then I dropped off the radar due to new baby and when I came back, there had been a massive upheaval and a mostly new crowd.

    Yeah, me too. Minus the baby. I missed the mass exodus (possibly because I never figured out how to get on the forums), but there are a lot of regulars I recognize from back then.

  17. But if I go into a whole store full of scented stuff, like Bath and Body Works my eyes get runny, red and itchy.

    In the last few years, Shoppers Drug Mart (humongous pharmacy / beauty / everything chain in Canada) redesigned their stores such that you HAVE to enter through the expensive makeup & perfume section. I hold my breath the whole way in.

  18. kittehserf MOD

    emilygoddess – what Argenti said; I just changed my name on the comment box here.

    What gets me with Gretchen/dikotome is that I saw her Gretchen comment first, complaining about being modded; checked the pending list and found nothing (ie. no pending comments at all); then later saw her dikotome comment making the same complaint. So where’s the comment that got modded and led to the complaints? It made no sense to me.

    In the last few years, Shoppers Drug Mart (humongous pharmacy / beauty / everything chain in Canada) redesigned their stores such that you HAVE to enter through the expensive makeup & perfume section. I hold my breath the whole way in.

    Myer in Melbourne (big department store) have done that for years. Not only all the odours, but freaking loud music as well.

  19. I like things that stink pretty.
    Incense, candles, perfumes, you name it, I like it. I have to be careful what brand I use, because some of them do irritate my husband’s sinuses, but not all of them bother him. I even rub scented oil into the dogs’ fur after each bath.

    I have a friend who is horribly allergic to almost all scents. Perfume, hairspray, carpet cleaners etc. The brand does not matter. The chemical that he’s allergic to is some kind of popular preservative that is found in nearly everything with a scent. Poor guy.

  20. I hold my breath when I walk by Holisters. I cannot handle that stink.

  21. kittehserf MOD

    Scents in general don’t bother me too much, and I’m certainly not allergic to any. But smoke – I hate breathing smoke. Irritates my eyes and while I can’t say it triggers an asthma attack, it sure as hell makes my lungs feel like they’re seizing up. Woodsmoke is bad, cigarettes are the worst – I cannot express how much I hate those things. Some idiot on the train the other day had obviously just had one, and REEKED. I spent the whole trip with my scarf over my nose and mouth, trying to block it out.

  22. @Kim: if some of the commercial brands contain extra additives, e.g. to help them stay burning, then it could be that. It could also be the difference in scent chemicals. But I’m really sensitive to certain things, like we buy the cheap soap because all the more expensive ones with their mosturisers etc give me eczema. I also have to be really careful with clothing washing powders – basically avoid anything scented. So I wouldn’t discount the effect being some sort of manufacturing difference.

    I know where you’re coming from with respect to the purity comment, but I don’t think any of us are going to argue that most/all forms of incense are “pure”.

  23. Or candles for that matter.

  24. cassandrakitty

    Beeswax or not might make a difference too. I’m OK with scents in general, but even for me whatever it is they put in Axe that’s also sprayed all over certain stores makes my eyes itch and sneezing fits happen.

  25. cassandrakitty

    Also, “watching bras in the laundry” makes me picture someone sitting in front of a dryer at the laundromat, just watching the bras spin round and round.

  26. kittehserf MOD

    I think that’s exactly what the blog sock was doing.

  27. kittehserf MOD

    Or claimed to be doing, anyway.

  28. I think I’m allergic to propolis – those lozenges that have propolis and honey make my tongue tingle really badly. Apparently that’s a clear food allergy sign. I’m also not a very good kiwi because dried flax – like they use in kete and kono – give me hay fever badly. The fresh stuff is fine. I’m also fine with flowers in the house. I did one of those skin tests to find out what my hay fever is due to, and I only reacted to the positive control (histamine). So I know what I’m not allergic to, but sadly not what I am allergic to. I think it could be privet because it seems to be bad when privet season is at its height.

    I asked why they were testing me for all the northern hemisphere trees and none of the NZ native trees, and got told “that’s what we have for testing”. Not terribly useful as I’m surrounded by native trees and very few non-native trees. Except for privet.

  29. This question has been a thought worm all day for me, but I’m not sure I want to know the answer. What’s on the reverse of the coin thing?

  30. kittehserf MOD

    A heap of writing – you can see it in the contest thread.

  31. “Where did you get those little fertilizer sticks, zie wants to get some for zer other plants.”

    A proper gardening store while pumpkin shopping last fall. You could try a Home Depot // Lowe’s that has a gardening center though.

  32. cassandrakitty

    @ pallygirl

    I’d try to find a way to look at tree allergies if I was you. I seem to be allergic to all different kinds of pollens, oh joy (one of the best things about living in the Middle East was that I had zero allergies while I was there, and it was glorious) but it’s exposure to cypress that really wipes me out, and it’s good to know what specifically will do that in advance so you can try to limit your exposure. Maybe start noting down when symptoms appear and what you might recently have been exposed to when they do?

  33. After years of antihistamines and inhaled steroids, I have found my treatment for hayfever.

    It’s this tablet: http://hayfeverpharmacy.co.nz/shop/products/natural-remedies/triple-strength-garlic-c-horseradish-fenugreek-marshmallow-60-s.html

    I’m a scientist, and the naturopathic tablet works. I was put onto this by an ex-air force pilot who swore by it, and he was put onto it by another ex-air force pilot.

    A locum standing in for my GP also put me onto this: http://www.neilmed.com/nz/sinusrinse_isotonic.php and I do use the sachets rather than estimating my own.

    Between those two products, I have controlled my hay fever symptoms without medication for five or so years. And before I started this regime, every year my sinuses would be so blocked that I couldn’t breath through my nose.

    This is what I use when I fly: http://www.fess.com.au/our-products/fess-frequent-flyer-nasal-spray/47C9557AB9483CEE793CC40E315DB365

  34. LBT, Argenti – there was talk on Saintpaulias (African violets)?

    I just run across a Finnish plant care manual compiled by hardcore Saintpaulia enthusiasts. Here are some key points translated:

    Do not like direct sunlight. Diffused light is good, even at modest intensities.

    Do not like constantly wet soil or water on leaves. High air humidity is beneficial.

    Temps below 15 C/60 F can be lethal while the optimum is 18-24 C/65-75 F.

    Fertilize sparingly, quarter or half of what is recommended for houseplants generally.

    I don’t personally have Saintpaulias, although I’m quite familiar with them.

  35. emilygoddess - MOD

    Mr. Al was once pretending to be a girl but gave the game away when he excitedly talked about seeing a bra in the dorm laundry room once.

    That’s pretty sad, even without the “claiming to be a woman” layer.

    cigarettes are the worst – I cannot express how much I hate those things. Some idiot on the train the other day had obviously just had one, and REEKED.

    I happen to like the smell of tobacco as it’s burning – probably because I grew up with smoker parents and even smoked myself for a few years. But the after-smell is awful. And now the smoke gives me raging headaches – which I guess is a good thing as it keeps me from taking up the habit again.

    @Pallygirl, the sinus wash is a godsend, isn’t it? I shell out for the sterile cans because I’m paranoid, but I used a neti pot for a while and it was great too.

  36. cassandrakitty

    I can see “I saw a bra!” being really exciting if you grew up in a really sex segregated and sexually repressive country, like Saudi or something, but coming from an American kid that was just pathetic.

    Not realizing that women don’t get that excited about seeing other women’s bras and thus that it would break his cover was just him being a sexist dumbass as usual. It just goes to show that it’s really hard to successfully impersonate people who you have no empathy for.

  37. I’m also paranoid about starting a fire. You know those “romantic” scenes where they have candles and normally billowing drapes, I just sit there thinking “fire hazard”. And then I don’t notice what’s going on in the scene.

    We once set fire to the Christmas dining table by walking away after the meal without snuffing the candle in the centrepiece floral arrangement. Happily, we realised there was the smell of smoke & the flaming flowers were quickly extinguished.

    This makes no sense. It’s not horrible artificial chemicals that give me hayfever – it’s the pure natural flowers. I can believe that whoever designs/makes her incense takes care to choose ingredients that aren’t allergenic, but to say it’s because they are more pure is just silly.

    Well, I’m happy to admit that the “purity” of incense is ridiculous. But whatever it was that is frequrently added and was left out of these, it was effective. I felt a bit weird actually smelling incense and not sneezing. Not certain that the sneezing hasn’t put me off the smell for life.

  38. This design looks straight up copied from the instructions for giving a suppository in my med/surg nursing textbook.

  39. Arctic Ape — yep, I sent LBT one of my African violet’s babies. After losing an orchid last winter, I set up an empty fish tank as a terrarium and it worked beautifully for getting cutting to grow — left me with a couple more plants than I needed! My cactī bed gets the direct sun, everything else get varied degrees of indirect sun and they all seem okay with this arrangement.

  40. kittehserf MOD

    emilygoddess – I grew up with no adults smoking around me, and my siblings weren’t allowed to smoke at home. Most of my exposure to the damned things was in my first years of work, when smoking in the workplace hadn’t yet been outlawed (this is mid 80s to early 90s) and both the offices I worked in in that time were infested with the things.

    These days I can smell if someone’s smoking half a block away.

  41. A. W. Ildguess

    Allegorical obviously.

    The rippling surface is evocative of the pensive in Harry Potter which symbolizes memories that are kept by wizards. The rim of the water also is like the view from inside the mouth of lips pressed hard against something. The asterisk shape is a symbol which represents that there is something more explained below but is also a symbol of a sphincter. The drop is obviously ejecting from the asterisk into the mouth. The hand is symbolic of justice and also a comforting symbol, like a reach-around. Poetically, “I shall take back my seed but I am not unkind and will come in handy.”

    Or it could be the hand of god flicking a booger at a weather balloon floating high above the flat earth.

    Either way, if the font was comic sans it would have been art.

    Felching

  42. Michael Stuber

    Anal leakage?

  43. I mentioned this on the plate thread, but have you noticed that the drop isn’t falling into the beaver-puddle, it’s actually being ejected upwards, at force from it…

    Michael may be right but on reflection, I can only now assume that this is meant to be their vision of female ejaculation, captured forever on a shiny metal coin.

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