Creepy comment of the day: If men can’t get “the steady love and wild sex of a valuable young girl,” naturally they’ll start shooting people.
Banana slug: A better role model for horny humans than bonobos?
Sometimes I hunt the misogyny, sometimes it wanders up right up to me and says hello.
Today’s post is an example of the latter. Below, a slightly edited comment that someone left for me this morning. It’s a response to a post of mine about a dreadful post on Return of Kings in which a fellow calling himself Billy Chubbs argued, with absolutely no evidence, that a recent high school shooter was driven to murder because of his “probable sexual frustration,” Chubbs went on to argue that young women are “selfish” because they don’t have sex with guys they’re not attracted to.
Anyway, my new commenter – posting under the name “whogoesthere?” – thinks that I and the other commenters here were being too hard on Chubbs’ “very good argument.” And so he deposited this giant rant, which in many ways is even scarier than Chubbs’ original.
He’s a tad verbose, so I’ve trimmed out some stuff that isn’t relevant to his general, er, thesis. And I’ve also taken the liberty of adding a few paragraph breaks and bolding a few of the best (i.e. worst) bits.
When men don’t get the women they want they turn to violence.
Not a good start here, because this just isn’t true. In this case, the phrase “not all men” is, for once, appropriate. Most men don’t get violent when they’re turned down.
This is established all over the animal kingdom and offers a good example about how it applies to humans, that snotty girls who keep their sexual treasures to all but a few males cause the remaining males to snap. …
Animals do all sorts of things that humans don’t do, and we can’t always learn from their behavior or assume that it relates to our own lives.
Or maybe the Evo Psych crew is just looking at the wrong animals. When banana slugs can’t find a partner to have sex with, they simply fertilize themselves. There’s a lesson here, I think, for the angry incels of the world: you can’t always get what you want, and when you can’t, sex with yourself is better than murder.
High school is a massively sexually charged winner take all environment. … Today’s high school is basically an ongoing audition for a porno video and the guys and girls who don’t make the cut can only sit at home and masturbate.
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It’s demeaning and hits a major blow to a person’s sexual identity to not be invited to frolic with the beautiful people.
Somehow most people, regardless of gender, manage to survive even if they’re not frolicking with Charlize Theron and/or Channing Tatum.
I’m sorry but almost no men go on wild shooting rampages if they have a beautiful female in their keep.
In their keep?! Also, no. Charles Manson was surrounded by beautiful young women. Yet he orchestrated multiple grisly murders.
The only guys that do so are bank robbers and thieves, generally guys at a later stage of life more fixated on money.
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Human beings naturally assess the amount of sex going around them and judge themselves in relationship to the amount and type of sex others are getting.
You know, you can’t actually tell how much and what kind of sex someone is having just by looking at them. Yes, there will always be people in the world having more sex with you. And some of these people are having sex with people you would probably like to have sex with. There are also people who are smarter than you, funnier than you, who can play chess or kickbox better than you, who have hundreds or thousands of times more money than you do.
That’s life. Life isn’t fair.
This makes sense because from a reproductive standpoint sex is coveted, and sex with beautiful thin, young women are the most coveted. Being the first to spoil these young women sexually is viewed reproductively as a guarantee of parentage, thus this is why males instinctively covet and burn with passion for these females.
Ah, yes, it was only a matter of time until the creepy pedo-justifying Evo Psych assfacts made their appearance. Not all men “burn with passion” in their pants for virginal high school girls.
This is why we have “morality” which is in its essence is a promise not to flaunt or indulge in sex moreso than the lowest man or woman in your tribe. This is what is meant when people say “morality went out the window.” They mean someone with more sexual prowess is openly indulging in sex and broadcasting it to stimulate the jealousy of the underclasses.
I’m pretty sure that’s not what people mean when they say “morality went out the window.”
This teen killed people cause he thought that beautiful girls were out of reach. The high school environment merely rubbed it in his face. Yes drugs to treat ADD might’ve eroded many of the impulse control functions in the teen, but the rage against the high school was still the gasoline.
[citation needed]
He might’ve had a picture or two taken with a girl next to him, but oftentimes those high school girls lie and simply eat up the male’s offerings without granting sexual access, but grant it to a random stud.
How dare young women choose who to have sex with, and who not to!
I’m not saying the girl he killed deserved it, it’s only that when you are in that frame of mind you cannot tell who is having more sex than others and you simply fill in the gaps with rage.
Wait, so if she had turned him down he would have been justified in killing her?
The beautiful girl simply represented everything that the teen couldn’t get. The steady love and wild sex of a valuable young girl.
Yeah, I think you’re confusing high school with porn again. His rampage lasted roughly a minute and a half. He shot her because she was there.
All the other theories posted on this site seem comical, self-righteous and weirdly off-point. It’s like you’re assessing the situation as an asexual senior citizen or righteous prude.
Not a lot of “prudes” here. Just people who find the “women need to have sex with ‘nice guys’ or these ‘nice gys’ will kill you all” to be a somewhat problematic argument.
Generally men want sex with young thin beauties who validate their existence.
Some men do. But most men, among those who are sexually attracted to women, aren’t as neurotically fixated on this small slice of the female demographic – women in their teens and early twenties who are somehow both virginal and sexually “wild” – as manosphere men seem to be. And most people don’t base their entire self-worth on whether or not they’re having sex with beautiful people.
Some men prefer women older than them. Some like women who are fat. Plenty of men don’t fixate on a particular physical type and are attracted to all sorts of different women. Believe it or not, whogoesthere, there are lots of men who are more interested in what’s in a woman’s head than they are in whether or not she matches up with some particular checklist of physical attributes.
If society removes all of the social pathways to attaining such a beauty, such as making prostitution illegal, increasing shame for men who seek sex, rewarding females and males called manginas who identify and mock the sex seekers and so on… this will lead to depression in men and all of the behaviors surrounding it, including shootings. Sounds pretty much like a logical line of reasoning to me.
And that’s the problem. It’s not actually a logical line of reasoning at all. It’s more like a sort of blackmail.
Men don’t kill women because they can’t have “the steady love and wild sex of a valuable young girl.” Sometimes men kill women because they feel entitled to have sex with these “valuable young girls” and become bitter and enraged when they can’t find a “valuable young girl” who agrees with them on this particular point.
It’s not the lack of “sexual access” that’s the problem. It’s the notion that your desire for “sexual access” means more than the right of that person to say “no.” It’s the notion that society has done you wrong because you can’t (at least at the moment) get laid. It’s the idea that your desire to have sex with a particular kind of woman somehow trumps the right of other people to live.
I mean, what the fucking fuck.
Oh, by the way, there’s no evidence that the shooter in question – Karl Halverson Pierson – was motivated by sexual frustration. His intended target was the school librarian, who is also the school’s debate coach. Pierson was obsessed with debate, and had some sort of grudge against the coach.
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LOL does trolly think he’s going to get back in the job market after leaving it for ten years? Priceless, just priceless.
How do you know she’s religious? What’s in her head is unknowable. And why would it matter anyway? You’ve said many times that only appearance matters.
CassandraKitty: She has over 900 videos on youtube. I have only watched about 10 or so, and she’s like this all the time from what i’ve seen.
She also appeared on an American reality show and humiliated herself in front of the entire World, something I doubt anyone would do just for the sake of trolling or joking.
I’m pretty sure she’s she real thing :s
undfreeland: I did say that men without money have a hard time getting laid by very attractive women.
And women here told you of the error of your ways. So did the men.
Well, look on the bright side. If that’s the kind of woman undfreeland is hoping to hook up with during his mid life crisis and his granny has died by that point then his dream may well come true.
Brooked: Good grief, this troll definitely took his Verbosity Pills. If pecunium does one of his broad responses to all this gobbledygook I’m guessing he’ll have to bail half way through, unless he has most of the day free to dedicate to undfreeland and is feeling particularly masochistic (in a non-fun way).
Nah. There’s not enough meat on the carcass. It’s more on the order of a goat that died a week ago and has already been picked over by the ravens and crows. You’d have to be willing to chase off the carrion beetles and crack the bones for marrow to get anything edible off of it.
@pecunium- I never said I deserved anything (except more financial support from a father who has more than enough to spare, so that I can finish school already) and I’ve repeatedly said that I understand why high-quality woman are not interested in me.
@kirttehserf, those would be the last ten years of my life.
I know who this troll with his Rich Dude Picking Up Hotties fantasy reminds me of: the creepy protagonist in C M Kornbluth’s The Mind Worm.
@katz, that actually sounds like a lovely way to spend 10 years. With the spare spare to subscribe to any porn site without hesitation!
What he really reminds me of is that thought experiment about the guy who hates everything but desperately wants to be happy. Anyone else know the one? I don’t remember what it’s called but it’s a demonstration that you can’t pursue happiness as a goal, in and of itself; you can only achieve happiness in the pursuit of some other goal.
CassandraKitty: Her youtube channel is already quite the freakshow, just imagine when rich, 40-year old Unfreeland joins the fray and they start to make homevidoes about their perfect “love” life. Holy crap. Better hope they don’t get any children.
katz: OT: Does anyone know any funny idioms for “Why are you acting so irritable?” Like “panties in a twist” but preferably something ungendered.
What’s got up your nose?
Who pissed in your Wheaties?
Who put the wild hare up your ass?
“Who rattled your cage” is my favorite.
katz: Now THAT is the hive mind at work! This is exactly the sort of thing I’m looking for. (Although I don’t think Russians eat a lot of breakfast cereal…”Who pissed on your pancakes” doesn’t work quite as well…)
Kasha (a sort of buckwheat groat/porridge) is a breakfast staple.
I’ll go digging through my collection of russian aphorisms tomorrow and see if I can find some for you (and I need to send you Mme Pecunium’s sisters work email).
I suppose, “who shat in your peanut butter?”, could work.
katz, I don’t know that experiment – it sounds interesting.
But underpantsonhishead doesn’t even bother to work out that there are plenty of women who also eschew bright and shiny new things.
Need furniture. Ever heard of ‘shabby chic’? I’ve even seen some apparently fashionable versions of those lotsa bricks, several floorboards sets of shelves we used to have in the 70s when we needed display or book storage spaces – that would also dismantle and move easily to a new flat or house. Equally, the 70s obsession with batik and similar rugs and throws to cover up the tatty upholstery on the couch you filched from the kerbside. There are “rich peasant” versions of these styles, but there’s no harm in the real, penny-pinching thing.
Want clothes, accessories, curtains, household stuff. Go to op shops and recycle places. I’ll admit that op shopping is very time consuming – if you want to buy most of your stuff there you have to go quite often because you can never be sure whether or when the stuff you want will be available. One of my daughters wears only designer clothes and she buys only second hand. Costs only $30 or so for a dress but it also costs repeated – and repeated and repeated – visits when there’s nothing at all she wants to buy that also fits her.
There are also lots of women who like neat, no fuss – maybe even minimalist – surroundings.
Not only does und not know how to talk to women, he doesn’t even know how to imagine a woman who has the kinds of preferences and attitudes that he might like to share living space with.
What’re the odds he’d resent a woman being in the same space anyway, unless she was adoring/fellating him full-time? He’d fail even if he found someone with the same attitudes he has. She’d be expecting him to worship her, not spend her money, etc, etc.
That could actually be quite a funny script. What a lot of fail.
In Finland we might say, “Don’t inhale a pea”.
Kittenserf, congrats on birthday. Did you say it’s officially on Saturday? Is it already Saturday in Australia, or is it still like Thursday in Alaska? Or was it half a year ago, because Southern hemisphere?
Every time I’ve heard und talking about feminism, he’s reminded me of this:
I am aware of all internet traditions
Just change out the word “internet” for “feminist”.
My question is, what’s und trying to distract us from? Anything interesting happening in the manosphere that we might be missing while batting the chew toy around? (other than the obvious, the AVfMisogynists conference that we’ll hear about soon enough)
It’s Friday evening here.
So kittehs can look forward to indulging herself with preferred cake-lollies-cat-toys tomorrow.
@pecunium, no contradiction in my definition of bliss. A month hardly meets the standard of a long period of time that I set, and her habit of “marking” me in ways I would have to make up excuses for during the Sadi-masochistic stuff she enjoyed hardly meet the standard of uncomplicated that I set.
@mildlymagnificient, it’s not that I can’t imagine such a women existing, just one that’s attractive enough for me to want to co-habitate with.
Attractive women tend to be conservative and have typically materialistic attitudes. The typical scripts that media and culture provide work out to well for them. They’ve no reason to question them.
I am, sure, however that they’re are plenty of unattractive women that share my ideas about materialism and thrift, but, well, they’re unattractive. :/
And how can you know that und, given all people are unknowable?
Snork. I’ve lived in LA, NY, and San Francisco. Each of these cities is lousy with hot babes of the liberal persuasion.*
Und really don’t seem to know very much about anything, most especially topics he has strong opinions on. Here’s some reading that may be useful: https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~suh/metacognition.pdf
* und, this is in no way a suggestion that you should visit any of these cities, much less live in them.
I think I’m attracted to abusers. Must be daddy issues. There was the last guy I dated, who was very much resigned to a cycle of abuse he was in denial about. I’ve spent the last two nights watching documentaries about domestic terrorists and I find myself really attracted to the Unabomber.
Stefan Molyneux was right. :(
I’ve got an idea! Everyone put forward a short factoid that is more interesting then undfreeland’s crap.
I’ll start: Ray Bradbury and Ray Harryhausen were lifelong friends. Harryhausen’s film “The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms” as billed as being based on a Bradbury short story, but in fact the only similarities were the title and use of a sea monster as antagonist. The studio was already working on their film when Bradbury’s story was published, so they bought the rights in order to keep the title.
Attractive to you. Those two factors would turn me right off from the start.
Oh, sorry, I forgot that “attractive” is an entirely visual concept. Silly me.
Fun Fact: most birds can see UV light. Consider how much pleasure most of us derive from color, and imaginative how much more beautiful the world would look with a wider palette. Sunsets and rainbows would be even more gorgeous.
And it would be way easier to know when to put on sunscreen.
Actually, I have it from a good friend that that the lady in the videos really is just a very dedicated troll. I’d like to say it’s comforting to know that people really can’t be that dumb, but then we have undy here. Seriously, dude, with all the excuses you make to avoid things that might actually make you happy, I can only conclude that you enjoy being as miserable as you are.
Thanks, Arctic Ape! LOL about the hemisphere.Hmm, I could get a few birthdays this way.
It’s Saturday, which is tomorrow here (it’s 9.30pm Friday now). We’re ahead of the Americas and Europe date-wise.
Fun dog fact: In Roman times, mastiffs were trained and used in combat.
I’ve met hemmorhoids more interesting than a lot of our trolls.
It requires no makeup, skin creams, tanning appointments, teeth whitening, gym memberships, hair products, fashionable apparel, or spa services to attain the air-brushed, close-up ready perfection that is demanded of beautiful women in mainstream American culture. If you are gorgeous, it is a gift from the bounties. Therefore, attractive women hold up the conservative consumerist status quo that allows them to buy nothing and do nothing. Unattractive women are also unattractive by cruel chance of birth. There is no such thing as punching up your looks with some well-placed cosmetics, makeup merely sinks into the skin and has no affect if you’re not already stunning. Thus, they embrace frugal and sustainable lives. But who cares since they don’t look like a nineteen-year-old Jenna Jameson at all times.
In a completely unrelated vein, the fact that most of the attractive women in und’s area are conservative is *not* a feature of local demographics (assuming he’s somewhere in the Southern U.S., where the majority of people in general lean right politically and socially). All women everywhere are like the women und has personally met.
Whereas in Canada, it’s a gift from the Mounties.
(Sorry, couldn’t resist!)
Happy Birthday, kittehs! :D
Thanks, Alex! (Counting down, it’ll be my birthday in 90 minutes, lol. I’d better get to bed before then!)
While it’s true one faces less social obstacles based on how attractive they are to the public, that tells us precisely nothing about attractive people. It’s not like, if you’re attractive, you can’t be disadvantaged in other respects either so “Pretty people have good lives” isn’t necessarily true. Pretty people have easier lives with respect to judgement based on appearance than not-pretty (whatever that means) people.
And that’s all we know about pretty people based on their being pretty.
See, when I engage in activities that are likely to cause bruising (mainly biting), I say things like “Is it okay if I mark you?” or “Yes please, I like bruises, but keep it below the collar line,” and then we do, and then nothing is complicated.
I like biting. Really quite a lot. I’ve never needed to make excuses for marks. I did once need to wear a shirt instead of a v-neck t-shirt to church, but that’s it.
I got in serious big trouble when I went through a period of impulsively biting my ex’s upper arm at random and, yeah, the marks were drawing negative attention. He also disliked it. I stopped.
As someone who was once the younger “chick” dating an older dude, I can tell you that acquiring us takes a certain skill. I’m been updating Mr. FM about the progress of this thread, and he is frankly appalled at this notion that all you need to get a pretty young thang is a lot of money and the willingness to spend it. Mr. FM now realizes that there is a whole world of younger men hurtling towards a middle-age full of disappointment and despair as they set all their sights on the wrong way to attract high-quality women at the local College Nite. Since he is a noble and civic-minded man, he has decided to step in and provide the insight and level-headed advice that any future seeker of youth and beauty will need for ultimate success.
So with much fanfare, I would like to give you a sneak peek at the new self-help book that Mr. FM and I are putting together in our spare time (okay, he’s doing most of the brain-work, but he’s decided to share credit since I’m such a good typist!). The instruction manual that dozens of men are waiting for [drumroll, please!!!!] –
The Old Dude Guide to Pulling High Quality Women
The topics Mr. FM will cover are many and varied, and he’s still hashing out the full list. But this easy-to-follow, down-to-earth guide will definitely cover include such vital chapters as:
*What the Hell Is a YOLO? – The catchphrases of youth change rapidly, and the truly sophisticated OPA (Older Polished Alpha) needs to keep up. Mr. FM gives you all the cheats you need to figure out exactly what the kids these days are saying, and slip it seamlessly into whatever useless conversation is necessary with the 21 year old HB8+ you desire.
*Did I Mention the Benz? – Another whole chapter on the fine art of conversation, this time on how to effortlessly work in mentions of your vast wealth, boundless worldly experience, and leonine sexual prowess. Blatant bragging can be a turn-off to some oversensitive young ladies, but we all know the effect of a smoothly-placed mention of your pied-a-terre in Miami!
*Wow, These Jeans Are Tight – Fashion and grooming are areas an OPA really can’t neglect. Sure, you have more cash to splash than those buff young dudes, but how will she know that if you don’t catch her eye first? This section will tell you how to borrow the latest looks from the younger crowd while still maintaining your own individuality, and give you tips on accessories (fancy hats, gold rope chains, ID bracelets) that make you stand out from the crowd and broadcast your disposable income.
*Home Staging, It’s Not Just for Real Estate Agents – Ideally, you’ll be going back to her place afterwards (watch out for futons, they are killer on your back after a certain age). But it never hurts to be prepared! Here’s where you learn how to hide all the tell-tale bits and pieces (certain prescription meds, reading glasses, issues of Modern Maturity), that might hurt your chances of a repeat performance with your new ingenue. If you want a repeat performance, of course.
*Mutton Dressed As Lamb – Chicks can be incredibly deceptive. Some of them can manage to look good even when they’re super old. This is a patch of quicksand that even the most experienced OPA can stumble into, and in this chapter you’ll find tips to swim your way to safety! Learn the tells that can indicate a woman who has lived a full and rich life, and learn how to get the hell away from her without causing insult or personal injury to yourself. There might be young hotties nearby, you know, and you don’t want them to think you’re ageist or anything.
*You Gotta Know When to Fold ‘Em – Sooner or later the jig is up. You’ll get to the point where you’re tired of the chase, or when you realize that the girls you’re pulling are slipping in quality from “high” to “well above average.” This means it’s time to print off the pre-nup and choose a lifemate! Now, keep an open mind, this isn’t the death sentence that you think! You’ll need someone to take care of you in your eventual decline, and even if she gets old and ugly on you, you can just take off your glasses.
So far the proposal that we’ve shopped around to agents and major publishers has been met with kind of mixed responses, like “This is disgusting” or “Grossly antifeminist,” or “What is wrong with you?” We may end up self-publishing in the end, which could be a boon in of itself since it will make updating the content much easier. But don’t worry, young men who are pining for a brighter future – help is on the way.
:D
Solipsism troll is boring. Happy cat haikus or GTFO.
Happy Birthday Kittehs! *throws glitter*
It’s Friday morning where I am, but happy birthday, kitteh!
Can we get the boring, shallow troll banned? Has anyone been banned for being too boring? Is that a Mammoth thing? How many times can we read posts about how he expects to find a woman/women to validate his pathetic existence?
And like all “Nice Guy” assholes he has to insult the very women he wants. In this idiot’s case, beautiful women are “shallow” (when in fact, that’s his problem in spades). Yeah, whatever, dudebro. Actually beautiful women, as a collective, must be brilliant because they managed to avoid you so far. You think women can’t sense it when a man just wants to use them for an ego boost? They can.
We can also smell a creepy sexist a mile away.
I’m 25, boyfriend is 39, and I would not sleep with und for any price. Not if I would never have to work again, not if he looked like Ryan Gosling and had a tongue made out of the finest silk (not that he would bother to use it anyway). Not if he could introduce me to the ghost of Freddie Mercury. I would not sleep with und if he could bring back Firefly. Not for any price!
::standing ovation for Mr Flying Mouse’s contribution to the welfare of
old dudeshumanity!::It’s officially my birthday now!
::chucks Tracy’s glitter around::
So much for getting to bed. :P Looking up Mr K-related pics is way too absorbing.
That sounds like an excellent way to start your birthday. Have a happy one, kittehserf!
I need to add a caveat to my teal deer above. Having a rich and full life is not in any way, shape or form only the province of older people. I’ve met eighteen-year-olds who’ve lived circles around me in all the best ways.
Thanks, Flying Mouse! :D
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III:
And here I’d gone almost a week without laugh-spurting tea all over myself.
Also, just wanted to say that this super-long thread has been super interesting reading for me over the past few days. You all seem to have really interesting projects and hobbies and relationships and furry companions. Thread is too long for me to respond to people in individually, but thank you all for sharing, I really love that this is such an open and frank community!
Argenti, the world of fish now seems vast and fascinating to me and if I had any prospect of being in the same country for longer than a year right now, I would seriously consider an aquarium.
Flying Mouse, you are winning this entire thread with your beautifully crafted account of your relationship with Mr. FM according to Undfreeland’s Rules of the Dating Market.
Kittehserf, happy birthday, hope it’s a lovely one!
Oh, underpantsonhead, I wish you could quit us.
Am I too late to wish kittens a happy birthday? HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
I’m at an actual conference. You know, the kinds with lots of people at it, enthusiastically attending multiple standing-room-only sessions.
I bet MRAs wonder what that’s like. XD
Omnicrom,
So far, so good. I just like how off the wall the concept is. I like the horror of the Titans themselves combined with the corruption of humanity and the futility the characters fear. (It’s almost like it’s a metaphor for something. /s) The animation is great.
That said, we started a new episode last night and it felt like we’d missed an episode, because it just started in a new place with new characters. It was to choppy. We ended up going to bed half way through. I’m not giving up on it though. I’m too curious to see what happens next.
Happy birthday, Kittehs! I hope the cake is tasty.
*too choppy*
If women are interesting, frugal or liberal they must be uggos?
LOL!
This empty, ignorant, shlub is a walking talking stereotype.
Those grapes are so fucking sour.
RE: cassandrakitty
There are tons of dishes from the Levant, North Africa, and so on that are intended to be eaten at room temperature that aren’t salads.
Please share! I’m kinda having trouble, since due to a mix of ED stuff, meal plan, and culinary knowledge, I mostly know hot meals that heat up the place.
RE: Kittehs
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! *throws confetti and sparkles at your head*
LOL does trolly think he’s going to get back in the job market after leaving it for ten years?
Don’t remind me. It’s one of my fears regarding being legally disabled. :( At least I’m arting?
RE: undfreeland
But the way I live, and plan to live to build up money, I don’t think many people would be happy with.
Dude, my husband and I were HOMELESS together for a year. But I guess we’re just magical unicorn people and really he spends all my money on… I dunno, hot pants and cockjazzling.
And we HAVE traveled the world together. It was great. But then, I notice you’re basically pretending I don’t exist, because I don’t fit into your stupid little paradigm.
RE: Lea
There will be cigarettes and if I go, I will smoke. If I smoke, I will hate myself.
Aw, I hear your pain. I’ve had to do shit like that for ED reasons. (No delaying meals for yoga or parties!) It sucks, but you are making the right choice. Stand strong!
@duckbunny, well, her deal is more like criss-crossing my arm with a piece of chirt before she had me scratch her in patterns all over her body
I really think the repetitios “no one would never sleep with you” thing is hilarious. Plenty of women have. So far, 13, and I’ve got plenty of years to go.
@katz, cus I missed it earlier. She may not actually believe in the things she says (this is assuming she is not a troll) but being committed to the whole god thing means she most likely would not be into an atheist
@lbt, you certainly exist, but you are correct. My attractions and relationship desires are squarely heterosexual and gender normative. Your experiences are fascinating, and it really does piss me off that individuals such as yourself face so much discrimination and hardship. It is highly irrational. But, yeah, your experiences have very little baring on what I’m saying
Also, undfreeland’s fantasies about happiness have led me to a more interesting thought thread, which is on the nature of happiness.
I read somewhere that even if we COULD lounge around on a tropical beach all the time, after a time, most of us would get sick of it and want to do something else. A lot of people gain happiness not from having no challenge, but overcoming challenges and DOING something meaningful.
For me, at least, this has proved true. I’m able to overcome shit like the Bad Years by knowing that I am doing something useful for people. My comics have taught people new things, entertained them, and in some cases, changed their lives. (That’s not hyperbole either.) My stories have made people laugh and cry.
Sure, I could’ve done without some of those challenges, and I want to work towards a world where nobody has to suffer rape or homelessness or hunger. But my sense of purpose has so far gotten me through these things.
It isn’t about what the world can do for ME. It’s about what I can do for the world and the people I care about.
Especially since the reason you’re saving up is to buy plenty of porn and HB10s in your old age. Women won’t exactly line up just to keep your bed warm until your ship comes in.
To Kittehs, LBT, etc talking about summer food: cold sesame noodles got me through a chunk of last summer. You do have to cook the noodles initially, but the dish is served cold, it’s pretty filling, and it keeps well.
I also enjoy deli meat sandwiches in the summer.
It’s finally hot enough here that I have to start eating my dinners in the locker room at work again. The break room is the one spot in the building that’s consistently NOT air conditioned.
Adding Minneapolis/St Paul to the list of cities with lots of beautiful young liberal women. We have a huge state university and several private universities and colleges after all. I doubt any of them would be interested in Undies so I hope he doesn’t come crawling out of the old confederacy to try and pull ladies.
He still hasn’t explained why spending money on furniture is materialistic and spending money on video games isn’t.
I switch to eating a lot of liquid meals in the summer.
No! Not like that!
Literally any kind of fruit smoothie, and add extra ice. Ice ice ice. Ice is my friend. Ice is my only friend.
Last year I actually broke down and bought an air conditioner.
RE: emilygoddess
I’ll have to look around for those sesame noodles! I know my roommate does soba noodles sometimes, so that’ll be yummy. I already eat enough sandwiches as it is and probably should not eat more.
Happy birthday Kittehs!
Did you know there’s a Ray Harryhausen documentary available to stream on Netflix? I’m sure you could get the disc delivered, but who does that any more?
I haven’t really watched any of his movies, but I watched that documentary and I was blown away. The effects were pretty seamless.
He did it all himself, up until Clash of the Titans, when there was a second animation unit involved.
His dad made a lot of his early armatures, even for the feature films.
And holy shit that’s Tom Baker ordering Kali around.
Also, I think the influence of Harryhausen on Dungeons & Dragons is pretty undeniable.
Who would have thought that a post on creepy comments would have attracted an actual creep to make even more creepier comments. Good show unfreeland, good show!
Tom Baker was cast as Doctor Who on the basis of that performance.
It was a big gamble on the part of the producers, because he was the first Doctor who was to all intents and purposes totally unknown (William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton were well-established character actors, Jon Pertwee a bona fide star, but can you name who played the villain in any other Ray Harryhausen film without cheating?), but it paid off spectacularly.
Undies: @pecunium, no contradiction in my definition of bliss. A month hardly meets the standard of a long period of time that I set, and her habit of “marking” me in ways I would have to make up excuses for during the Sadi-masochistic stuff she enjoyed hardly meet the standard of uncomplicated that I set.
Nope. You just maintained “consistency” by 1: moving the goalposts (you initially said, as quoted, you “couldn’t imagine” such bliss. QED, by your own words ab initio, you had all the experience needed to imagine such a thing.
2: Introducing new factors to the definition of “bliss” which weren’t present in the initial hypothesis. Suddenly the best month of your life wasn’t so good.
which is 3: Yet another inconsistency.
You see, boyo, the thing you have to remember is that we don’t live in your head. We are discrete and separate entities, as such all we have to work with is the words you give us.* Since all we have is those word, those words have to be consistent.
That YOU have some set of consistent ideas/facts/understandings of your person, your past and your desires doesn’t mean a thing to us. What you need is to present a consistent present.
You’ve failed. That you can’t manage it, when the word are written down, and you have all the time you like to keep the story straight, is why I don’t think you are so good at hiding your inner contempt for others, and your core distaste for women (exemplified by your desire to gain their affections; so that they adore you, and discard them as soon as you think their beauty faded. Which is what you have accused the Engineer of doing. The difference being you see it as just fine for you, and paint it as shallow, and somewhat cruel in her).
IMO, that distaste is why the women don’t (and won’t) line up at your door. You reek of it.
*I’m beginning to wonder about the theory of mind brought up earlier
Yet another example of an older dude dating younger chicks. On this very forum. And ya’ll act like that’s so unrealistic.
Being the older dude in question. Nope. What’s unrealistic is the way you think it will happen. It wasn’t money that caused her to be interested. It was that we had interests in common, and I was willing to share hers.
I already told the story of how we got together. I left out the sitting up talking, and going hiking, and the camping trip to Joshua Tree, and the hours spent talking to her while I was TDY in Korea (and I mean hours: the phone bill was obscene), or the letters I wrote explaining that I was going to Korea (it was short notice, and she was incommunicado, seeing one of her other lovers) etc.
So you, my Mr. Shallow in Short Pants, would have written her off; even though, as a Quaker, she is pretty much not a big one for materialism (she and her husband have an apple farm now… but I doubt she’d call the string of degrees she earned wasted; and some of it applies to the things she does now).
I find it funny (though far from consistent) that you won’t settle down with a partner (NB, I didn’t say one person) because “the pretty one’s are all materialist”, but your “plan” for life is to get a lot of money and wave it at the “hot chicks”.
Again, the common thread in the disappointments of your life, is you.
I do have an amazing life. The poppies are blooming, my coffee shop makes a killer latte and my wife was helping me whack forsythia yesterday. Our neighbor came out to join us, and I got to hold his month old child as they worked and the baby slept. We took turns, so no one got too tired from holding the child, nor too worn out from reducing the branches to pieces small enough to go in the bag.
You wouldn’t have enjoyed any of it. Too “boring”. Me, I loved every minute of it (well, ok, the mosquito bite sort of sucked, and the juniper crud in my finger sort of sucked, but the overall was great). Tonight we have company, and I’ll cook. I’ll wash some dishes, repot an orchid, spin some yarn, etc.
You, will wonder why the hot babes aren’t flocking to you.
Again, I don’t worry about it, because I don’t worry about it. So some pretty interesting women express interest in me. I and I in them. Sometimes I reject them. Sometimes they reject me. Sometimes we agree this is a good idea. And we have fun together.
It’s a pretty good life.