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Open Thread: Manfeels Park Dance Party Edition. No trolls, no MRAs.

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Open thread! As always: No trolls, no MRAs.

This is a general open thread; for more personal stuff, go here.

Oh,and the pic above is from a hilarious new website called Manfeels Park, which mashes up whiny MRA complaints with … Jane Austen.

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Posted on June 21, 2014, in awesome, open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 257 Comments.

  1. This:

    He is so kind though. I loved his company.

    isn’t gelling with this:

    He responded saying he thinks he would but feels like he wasn’t what I’d expected. I hadn’t had any expectations so I was a bit weirded out by that and asked if I’d disappointed. He texts me back saying he’s not sure we’d click as close friends.

    None of the kind people I know, of any gender, would say something like that, let alone text it. I’m old-fashioned, I find texting that type of comment to be a particularly cowardly, emotionally cold thing to do.

  2. @katz

    Please do. I’ve always wanted to give KQVII a shot.

    @marinerachel

    I second pallygirl on this one. He could have told you directly.

    I really don’t know how to advise you on this, without sounding like a patronizing prick. Nevertheless, I’ll try.

    Are you having fun with this guy? Do you share any interests that you can talk and bond about? Most importantly are you sure you can trust him?

    He is not wearing a fedora, by any chance, is he?

    @everyone

    I know there are lots of cat lovers here, so I’ll just ask:

    How do you get rid of Kitty lice?

    See, a pregnant street-cat recently barged in my parent’s village home and gave birth to kitties. Apparently, when a cat gives birth, lice also come out to absorb excess fluids and now the whole house is infested (I am not sure if the lice-when-breeding thing is true, perhaps you will correct me on this one).

    There aren’t any good fumigation companies nearby. Anybody knows what to do?

  3. KQ7, for anyone interested. Let me know if it doesn’t work and I’ll…sympathize, I guess, since there isn’t really much I can do except say “It worked for me.”

  4. So, fellow USicans, how ’bout that buffer zone decision?

  5. So, fellow USicans, how ’bout that buffer zone decision?

    FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKK

    *rolls around on the floor in a fit of rage*

    I’m on my fifth beer, and I ordered a stuffed crust pizza with extra cheese just to cope. I’m thinking about volunteering as an escort now, they’re gonna need it even more -_-;

  6. I don’t have the patience to work as a clinic escort. I always end up screaming at those idiots.

  7. Lensman, I wish I had advice for getting rid of cat lice! I can only suggest googling it. :(

  8. RE: Kim

    I’m wondering if having a housewarming and inviting my new neighbours has any chance of success.

    When I lived in Boston (an infamously unfriendly city) my French neighbors threw a housewarming. I was unable to go due to prior committments, but other people I know did and it definitely meant I remembered them. There were also some dudes who threw a block party once and I wandered by, and they were like, “JOIN OUR PARTY!” I did, ate some food, had some fun playing a yard game, and generally had a good time. I say, go for it!

    RE: katz

    Sneak will probably like Thomas Was Alone but you should play it too because you’d be interested in the plot. It’s about accidentally-created AIs trying to escape the mainframe they are on and get into the outer world.

    From Sneak: “AUGH I TRIED TO DOWNLOAD IT BUT OUR COMPUTER IS OLD AND CAN’T DOWNLOAD ZIPS WITHOUT CORRUPTING THEM ANYMORE I AM THE SADDEST. T_T I really want to play this game, but I just can’t do it auuuuugh.”

    Sneak uses a lot of capslock.

  9. Hmph. U NO have Steam?

  10. Because if you did we could send you a copy.

  11. Sorry, no Steam. Nine-year-old laptop, and the hard drive is getting really full; it badly needs a replacement. :( It’s on my to-do list directly after getting my emergency funds set up.

  12. Hey Fibinachi, if you’re around, I’m still really intrigued by the ideas in this comment. Want to collab on an interactive fiction, maybe? I can do the programming.

  13. This is interesting, about how little mental illness has to do with violent crime after all: http://news360.com/article/245780604# I just post it here, since I think many of you would find it interesting.

  14. Hey Katz!

    I’d love to! That’d be interesting and great. Sort of a pick your own path, adventure text thing? That’d be interesting. Plus I’m on vacation for the next month, so I’ve got some time to burn on interesting projects (That don’t involve trying to make up some sort of kinda-sorta France post revolution for a game of D&D and kludging in the ten-thousand rules suppements to the d20 system I’ve managed to find).

    ( ( Ideas for fun things to chuck at players and people always welcome ) )

    ON notes of fun, I just finished Thomas Was Alone and…
    and…

    Wow.

    Got nothing but that. If anyone’s interesting messing about with a actuall relatively simple (But fun! Fun fun fun!) platformer with a really, really interesting and lovely story, go for Thomas Was Alone.

    I’m also a fan of Gish, in which you control a ball of tar.

  15. I should point out I like Gish for the platforming and the physics, there’s absolutely no story or anything of that kind.

  16. I’d love to! That’d be interesting and great. Sort of a pick your own path, adventure text thing? That’d be interesting. Plus I’m on vacation for the next month, so I’ve got some time to burn on interesting projects (That don’t involve trying to make up some sort of kinda-sorta France post revolution for a game of D&D and kludging in the ten-thousand rules suppements to the d20 system I’ve managed to find).

    That’s the kind of thing. I’ve written a couple, including The House of Fear, which is based on the life and art of (who else?) Leonora Carrington. (You can play in browser for free; the link is on the top right.)

    Want to get on email and swap some ideas? I was thinking instead of a health meter, maybe a mood meter. Or better yet, two mood meters: Yours and theirs. You’ve got to keep both from hitting zero, but things that boost one meter may deplete the other. (Calm did something a bit like this.)

    Everyone else: Feel free to chip in.

  17. That’s an entire database I didn’t know existed.

    I’m getting Zork flashbacks now.

    Thank you for both links.

    Hm… What’d you program this with – The House of Fear, I mean?

  18. Inform 7. It’s easy-peasy, natural language (supposedly) and designed for interactive fiction.

  19. Anyway if you want to email about it shoot something to this meltmail and I’ll reply: 9OR63NbNQ77M@meltmail.com

    But do it today because it is a meltmail.

  20. Argenti Aertheri

    Fibi — things I’d had up my sleeve that you could maybe adapt for D&D — powerful person owes their life to a Really Bad person, but you’ll never get that damning bit of info if you just kill the big baddie; oh that statue? Yeah that’s a gargoyle; why is the book I need in the hands of someone who wants me to do a shitty favor before they’ll give it up (attempts to resort to violence end in horrible deaths). I don’t think any related to Bedlum and Victorian women would help you though?

  21. Well, it’s official. SCOTUS thinks corporations are people with rights to force religion on other people, but women are not people and don’t have a right to their own bodily autonomy. Fuck.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hobby-lobby-supreme-court-wins-narrow-ruling

  22. Hobby Lobby won?

    Fuck.

  23. Fibi — things I’d had up my sleeve that you could maybe adapt for D&D — powerful person owes their life to a Really Bad person, but you’ll never get that damning bit of info if you just kill the big baddie; oh that statue? Yeah that’s a gargoyle; why is the book I need in the hands of someone who wants me to do a shitty favor before they’ll give it up (attempts to resort to violence end in horrible deaths). I don’t think any related to Bedlum and Victorian women would help you though?

    Bedlum and Victorian women are always helpful! (And so it is the rest. I like spinning ideas from random snippets. Thank you)

    Anyway if you want to email about it shoot something to this meltmail and I’ll reply: 9OR63NbNQ77M@meltmail.com

    But do it today because it is a meltmail.

    Sorry Katz, I was sleeping and running errands and helping my sister move into her new apartment. Didn’t see this post until right now.

    IF you want, you can contact me at fibi at gmail, which is my throw-away contact e-mail for this particular part of the woods.

  24. The only silver lining I can see is it may force the administration to consider an ACA mandate to provide free/cheap BC and reproductive health services to all uterus et al.-havers regardless of whether or not it is covered by insurance purchased through their employer.

    Ideally, frankly, we should divorce health care and insurance from employer benefits all together; it is something we should all have access to regardless of employment status and employment ‘benefits’.

    Still, it’s going to be interesting to see how this ‘religious exemption’ ruling plays out in other areas, and by interesting, I mean horrible.

  25. Sorry Katz, I was sleeping and running errands and helping my sister move into her new apartment. Didn’t see this post until right now.

    IF you want, you can contact me at fibi at gmail, which is my throw-away contact e-mail for this particular part of the woods.

    No worries, but I’m not getting that email address to work? Here, have another meltmail:

    nq3y25Ihyx2d@meltmail.com

  26. daintydougal

    Peeps probably already know about this, but I thought I’d find an old open thread to post it. Does anything ever change? Ever?

    won’t someone think of the rich white males!

  27. Argenti Aertheri

    Fibi — my biggie Bedlam one hinged on the vampire sunlight problem, but maybe you can work with it all the same — female vampire, put in Bedlam, how the hell do you get out before becoming a crispy critter? (One of the psychs was also a vampire, or maybe a ghoul, either way the answer was find him, explain, do whatever the fuck he asks because it’s better then being crispy [I was thinking vampire, and one of status, where requesting anything too vile would come back to haunt him]).

    How do you get your ghoul out when you can’t make daylight appearances? Bonus points if you’re playing a woman and the ghoul is male, cuz Victorian England.

    Navigating proper Victorian woman etiquette while dealing with vampire politics (playing nice tends to get you killed)

    Whoops, realize your husband is swindling his investors? Too bad it’s 1860 and you’re a woman in Victorian London! Have fun at Bedlam! (1865 actually, because I needed it after The Great Stink for vampire reasons, do it before or during that and you can toss in all kinds of “and btw, all you smell, everywhere, is sewage, try not to get chorea!” — both in practical terms and miasma theory)

    And my deus ex machina — that Really Powerful sorta friend? Yeah, she doesn’t fight, period, but she will work a little vampire “magic” to get you an escape route, so stay on her good side. (I wanted a chance to sorta play and she was the perfect chance to craft my players’ futures without going totally deus ex machina about it — pretty much, if she showed up she either had a plot advancing quest, or you were doing something fatally dumb)

  28. Argenti Aertheri

    Wow autocorrect, that should be cholera, not chorea, though that could be an interesting problem while in combat.

  29. Reading about people who want to keep oppression in place is ruining my life. My depression is worse, and I have feelings of extreme anger.

    My therapist and my dad told me harboring such powerful feelings of resentment is very unhealthy, and that I need to let them go. For this reason, I am going to leave WHTM. I don’t know if it will ever be healthy for me to come back. I’m sure you all will get along fine without me, but I really wanted to say goodbye before I left.

    To the many wonderful regulars (and irregulars?) here, I say: Thank You! I hope you have very enjoyable lives. :)

    I can post until the end of today; if anyone has questions. (concerns? comments? :P)
    Oh, the end of today for me will be when it’s midnight on the East coast of the US.

  30. Hey, I just saw something that was so funny I gotta share: Our current right-wing government is a collaboration between four different political parties. They campaign together under the heading “alliansen” (=the alliance). On their website, they have a cartoon with a flag. The flag is supposed to be blowing in the wind, and the fabric bends, so you can’t see all the letters in “alliansen”. The letters you do see on this flag form the word “asen”. “Asen” means, roughly, “the bastards” or “the assholes”.

    So basically this is thrown around all over Facebook by leftie Swedes… I wonder how long it will take before one of “the assholes” take notice and change the flag pic on the website…

  31. Scott, take your time. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ll be staying at Mammoth, but just removed myself from my Swedish feminist groups on Facebook and also from my vegan group, because it was too much depressing shit there. Sometimes one’s gotta take a break from things.

  32. Scott, you know what you need. Taking care of yourself should always be your first priority. Do feel free to just hang around the open threads if you like.

  33. Hi Scott, my best wishes to you! I do understand where you’re coming from as well, and I’m glad your dad and therapist are around to support you. Just want to let you know I’ve enjoyed your posts, and am very glad you exist in the world.

  34. Dvärghundspossen and katz,

    Yes, thank you. :)

    It’d actually be best for me to avoid the site completely, but I appreciate the invitation.

  35. Just want to let you know I’ve enjoyed your posts, and am very glad you exist in the world.

    ::blushes in embarrassment:: That’s such a nice thing to say, thank you. :)

  36. Scott, best of luck!

    By all means, do what you have to for your own mental health. I’ve enjoyed your posts, and am sincerely grateful for getting to know you, in little bits and pieces of short text.

    I’ll miss seeing your name in threads, just a bit. However, if us missing you here means you’re able to live even a slightly happier and healthier life, then absolutely go for it.

    Better to miss you but know you’re taking care of yourself, than to know you’re just getting more and more hurt.

    Best of luck, and I hope you have a brilliant life in meatspace.

  37. By all means, do what you have to for your own mental health. I’ve enjoyed your posts, and am sincerely grateful for getting to know you, in little bits and pieces of short text.

    I’ll miss seeing your name in threads, just a bit. However, if us missing you here means you’re able to live even a slightly happier and healthier life, then absolutely go for it.

    Better to miss you but know you’re taking care of yourself, than to know you’re just getting more and more hurt.

    Best of luck, and I hope you have a brilliant life in meatspace.

    ::blushes even more:: Thank you, contrapangloss. :) I think your posts are excellent. :D

  38. Argenti Aertheri

    *waves* been nice having you around Scott! But if you need to go, you need to go — doesn’t just apply to the bathroom :)

    Should you decide to return, you know where to find us, until then, good luck!

  39. kittehserf MOD

    scott, seconding everyone – Sorry you have to go, but take care!

  40. But if you need to go, you need to go — doesn’t just apply to the bathroom

    Lol! XD

    Thanks, kittehserf and Argenti. :)

  41. emilygoddess - MOD

    So 4chan decided to troll the “feminist” tag on Tumblr today. And when 4chan trolls you, it tends to include really appalling stuff. I saw dead humans and animals being tortured, and deliberate attempts to upset rape survivors, just in my brief few minutes in the tag. Then I had to go hug my partner and cat for a little while. People are seriously fucked up.

  42. Yeah, they’re peaches. Here’s an archive of a post they made about Manfeels Park the other day: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/31819986/

    The 4chan original is gone. I’m PRETTY sure they deleted it to avoid embarrassment. Basically, when I got a comment from one of them on the latest Manfeels I, er, might have edited it a little for clarity (most comments I just approve but this one could’ve caused some tensions if left approved but unanswered if folk thought it was genuine). Further down _the very same thread_ on 4chan they started crowing about the ‘tumblrites’ turning on one another, being sarcastic that “SUUUURE it MUST be 4chan!” and protesting that “that wasn’t even us!” On. The same. Thread. Where the commenter had their comment proofed and quoted the comment in question before I had approved it. People really need to pay more attention. *grin*

  43. @moraghannah
    Unless 4chan changed recently, they don’t archive directly the posts. So if a thread dies, it will eventually disappear. Which is why you may not have been able to find the original. Secondary sites have taken upon the jobs of archiving the most interesting material. There is virtually no moderation on 4chan, except for child porn.

  44. Well that thread disappeared within a few hours of a bunch of comments that make ‘em look incredibly thick (I was refreshing fairly regularly and activity had not died out), which I guess I saw as a bit of a coincidence, but fair enough!

  45. Oh actually I saved it so was able to check it for the message it flagged up! On an update, it got flagged with the message “This thread has been pruned or deleted”. That was what made me think it had been actively removed rather than simply expiring.

  46. Ugh, 4chan is awful. Sorry you had to deal with that, emilygoddess.

  47. emilygoddess - MOD

    So after the 4chan Tumblr trolling incident, I was feeling pretty depressed about the general lack of humanity some people have. But the next day I went in to work and at visiting time, I was getting ready to walk a patient named P, who has been with us for a couple of weeks recovering from severe burns. His owner is also in the hospital from the same fire, so while we all give P a lot of love, he doesn’t have any visitors. So as I was picking P up for his walk, the owner of the dog in the next cage got my attention and said, “you make sure he goes home with that blanket in his cage”. I was gearing up to say, you know, we do our best and I’ll certainly try and etc., when she added, “I made it for him*, so he’d have something that was his own.” Then she told P she was rooting for him. It was just the exact opposite of the shit I saw on Friday and it was nice to see someone go out of their way to be kind to a sick and frightened dog and I’m actually tearing up a little.

    I thought you guys would enjoy this tale of niceness to our furry overlords :-)

    *It about 2×2 feet (~ .5 meters) and knitted. Not difficult per se, but she probably spent a couple of hours making it.

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