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The 5 most ridiculous things causing misogynists to lose their sh*t this week

 

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It’s the eternal question: do misogynists spend their entire lives looking for excuses to get mad at women, or are they so naturally enraged by any evidence of female autonomy that they can’t help but erupt in rage over the tiniest of things?

We may never know the answer to that question. What we do know: almost anything can provoke them, no matter how trivial it is, no matter how misguided their anger might seem to anyone who doesn’t actually, you know, hate women. Let’s look at some of the latest things to cause women-haters to lose their shit.

1) British tennis champ Andy Murray’s  announcement this week that he was hiring former female tennis champion Amélie Mauresmo as his coach. Even though she’s, you know, a lady.

On Twitter, as Buzzfeed has chronicled, some have taken exception to Mauresmo’s status as a non-man.

Others have suggested that maybe she’s more of a man than him – ho ho!

Why it would matter to any of these people just whom someone who is not them wants as his coach remains unclear.

2) An article on the Huffington Post noting that on D-Day, one woman – war correspondent Martha Gellhorn – accompanied the 150,000 men who stormed the beaches.

It’s an interesting story: all the female correspondents who requested spots on the boats were turned down, so she ended up sneaking her way into the invasion by hiding in a ship’s bathroom.

But over on the A Voice for Men forums, someone called Humansplaining w/ Jarred is outraged that “Feminists can’t even let Men have D-DAY for themselves!”

Here we are on the 70th anniversary of a watershed moment in one of the bloodiest wars in human history, where thousands of men selflessly gave their lives, and some Feminist feels the need to devote an entire article to the fact that there was also ONE woman involved! There you go, it’s official – the ratio of worth from women to men, is 1:150,000. Those two are completely equal in the eyes of many Feminists, apparently. You can spend all your time relaying the experiences of that one female in great detail, without even the slightest nod to the individual experiences of those 150,000 other human beings that were involved, many of whom perished in the process. Because VAGINA.

Yep. That’s right. Telling the story of one woman on D-Day is an attack on all the men involved. Hell, let’s take that further. Any story told about any individual person involved in a collective effort should be considered a grave insult to all the others. Saving Private Ryan is an insult to all soldiers who weren’t Private Ryan!

3) LEGO is launching a new series of scientist minifigures – only this time, they’re women!

On the Justice for Men & Boys (and the women who love them) website, British MRA and would-be politician Mike Buchanan sniffs that this move by LEGO belongs in the

‘You couldn’t make this s*** up!’ file. Doubtless it will sell well to hatchet-faced mothers determined to quash any signs of femininity in their unfortunate daughters.

Apparently acknowledging the existence of female scientists is somehow an injustice to men and boys?

4) Older women sometimes have sex with younger men.

There’s a certain kind of man who likes to loudly declare just which women – or categories of women – he “wouldn’t bang.” Our old friend Heartiste – the white-nationalist, purple-prose-writing pickup guru – is a member of a slightly smaller subgroup: he gets angry when other men have sex with the women he’s declared unsuitable, a group which apparently includes all but 0.1% of women his age and older.

In a recent post, Heartiste lambastes the dating site CougarLife.com as a symptom of our “rapid cultural collapse.” Its crime? Matching up “mangy cougars” and their “dusty muffs” with “inexperienced younger men hauling a knapsack of blue balls.”

While Heartiste directs most of his hate at the so-called cougars themselves – for the crime of having sex while female and forty plus – he’s indignant that younger men, in his mind, allow themselves to resort to

the shabby hole of a bottom shelf jezebel to alleviate your incel. … a tepid squirt of pallid pleasure in exchange for your dignity and psychologically distressing confirmation that this is the best you might ever do.

Apparently the idea that a younger man and an older women might actually enjoy having sex with one another is too much for his fragile misogynist mind to take.

Indeed, it’s hard not to wonder if Heartiste actually likes sex at all  – or if his own alleged lovemaking prowess extends much beyond a “tepid squirt.” This, after all, is a guy who thinks going down on a woman is “beta,” because burying your face in what he calls that “fetid, humid mess” is sort of icky, and might lead her to think that you think she’s hot.

And last but not least:

5) Some people are trying to get colleges to take rape more seriously.

In a column in the Washington Post, George Will sniffs that colleges, by addressing what he calls “the supposed campus epidemic of rape” are bestowing upon “’sexual assault’ victims” a “coveted status that confers privileges,” thus encouraging others to jump aboard the victimhood express.

Others have already torn apart Will’s argument pretty thoroughly. So I’ll just note one not-so-little irony: the headline for Will’s column, as it ran in the Post, was “Colleges become the victims of progressivism.”

Why is it that the people who most loudly condemn the supposed “cult of victimhood” are the first to claim that they’re the ones who are really being victimized – by “progressives,” by feminists, by female tennis coaches, by stories about women in war, by LEGO figurines of female scientists, by women they don’t like having consensual sex, by anti-rape activists trying to create a climate in which more than 12% of rape survivors on campuses feel safe enough to report their rapes?

 

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Posted on June 10, 2014, in a new woman to hate, a voice for men, all about the menz, beta males, entitled babies, evil old ladies, evil sexy ladies, heartiste, incoherent rage, irony alert, mantrum, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, no girls allowed, PUA, rape, rape culture, transphobia and tagged , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 414 Comments.

  1. It’s a wee bit late, but I just glanced over at my history bookshelf and noticed books by Margaret Murray and Rosalie David, both brilliant archaeologists. (Archaeology counts as a science, right?) Margaret Murray was studying the ancient dead at Cambridge at the turn of the last century, when most British women wouldn’t even dream of getting degrees. Rosalie David more or less invented the field of paleopathology, where the remains of ancient peoples are studied in order to learn what illnesses were prevalent in their times. She’s autopsied more mummies than anyone, as far as I know.

    And of course, I must mention Mary Wolstonecraft, who wrote the first programming language for one of the first proto-computers. In a sense, she was also the grandmother of sci-fi, as her daughter, Mary Wolstonecraft Shelley, arguably created the genre when she wrote “Frankenstein”.

  2. @Winter Walker

    I might be wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure that it was Ada Lovelace who invented the first programming language, not Mary Wollstonecraft.

  3. @Ally S. Shit. I should’ve looked that one up. Wikipedia, brace yourself!

  4. enhanced vibes,

    My apologies for the error, but yes…it seems to me that FREEZE PEACH according to right wing types means they can say whatever horrifically offensive shit they want without consequences and any critique thereof is PC POLICE,,CENSORSHIP – which apparently is not protected speech. Fascinating. Unfortunately, Scalia would probably dig this idea.

    WRT “Patriots,” they love the idea of the Constitution, but understanding constitutional law requires a sense of nuance that they reject in favor of a black and white, good versus evil view of pretty much everything. They prefer blanket statements like “it’s a free country!!!!1!eleven!” Whatever the fuck that means.

    Don’t even get me started on their fascinating interpretation of “freedom of religion.” (RWers, when you say “freedom of religion,” to what exactly are you referring? The Establishment Clause? Free Exercise Clause? [derp derp argle bargle] [malfunction])

    And speaking of religious and government, none of them seem to recall that the Revolution/Constitutional Convention took place during the Enlightenment Era and the influence that had on both the Founders, many of whom were Deist rather than Christian, and the Founding documents. No, no. We’re a Christian nation!!

  5. Did my comment get eaten on accident or did I accidentally say something that got it sent to moderation? My bad!

  6. Did anyone mention Hedy Lamarr yet? Doesn’t get much more famous than that.

  7. @emilygoddess
    Awesome! I’ve registered the domain name, and I’l start working on the code this weekend. For content, there will be a lot of research for sure, but I’ll design it so anyone who’s keen can contribute.

  8. Did anyone mention Hedy Lamarr yet?

    That’s Hedley!

  9. I mean i barely have to click 10 times though this site or jezebel to find some idiot spouting some killallmen nonsense.

    Citation or GTFO. We don’t run with that shit here.

  10. Toddles Manboob, esq.

    @Winter Walker: As a former history major I can tell you that, yes, archaeology is a science, and that’s precisely what’s wrong with it.

  11. enhancedvibes

    @babylawyer

    UGH, I know exactly how you feel about all of that. Despite conservative justices saying how much they despise judicial activism that is exactly what the SCOTUS conservatives did in the DOMA decision by voting against it as though its ok for the federal govt to discriminate, eejits every last one of them.

    Conservatives and liberals think very differently about issues, as you pointed out conservatives view issues in a very black and white fashion. That is why the blatant lying by their media and own politicians resonates with them so long as they feel they are on the “right” side of the issue. If youre into politics like I am you may find Moral Foundations Theory to be interesting, see link below. Im also posting a link for the article on why people vote republican. I read all the responses by academicians and it was a darn good read. I think liberals will have a hard row to sow in the coming elections because there js so much angry hate on the right right now driven solely by fear lf our country’s growing diversity, which i find truly scary.

    http://www.moralfoundations.org/

    http://edge.org/conversation/what-makes-vote-republican

  12. scientists–Dr. Frances Kelsey is kind of famous. She’s the person responsible for the fact that thalidomide was never approved in the U.S.

    raccoons and tree rats (squirrels)–I’ve had both of them living in either my house (just squirrels) or my carriage house/garage (both squirrels and a raccoon). Sorry that you’ve experienced that too, takshak.
    Luckily, I never encountered the raccoon and didn’t even realize it had been living there until after it left (as a result of some work I had done on the carriage house). The squirrels are gray squirrels, the same ones that are an introduced species in the UK and are killing the native red squirrels there. I like wildlife, but when something is living in my house it’s no longer wildlife, it’s vermin.

    chest/body hair–I had a mild preference for chest hair that has become a strong preference for chest hair due to some combination of 3 factors: it seems to have become unfashionable (and I’m a contrarian and also do not like for people to feel obligated to remove hair and told that their body is gross if they don’t); my fiance has a fair amount of chest hair; my fiance is somewhat self-conscious about his body hair and that makes me feel protective of him.

    Fiance and I are making our way through Season 2 of Once Upon a Time. Fiance said about Colin O’Donohue/Hook, surprised, “He’s as hairy as I am!” :) Colin O’Donohue is a good-looking man, IMO.

  13. Mikey: Maybe LEGO should inspire young wannabe female scientists with a range of modern era ‘famous’ scientists rather than ‘female’ scientists? Hmm, how might that work out? How many famous female scientists in the modern era can YOU name, in the wake of quite a few decades of equal opportunity? Yeah, I got the same number.

    Nope: off the top of my head (no google) Rosalyn Yallow (who discovered aspects of diabetes which saved the lives of lots of men: earned her a Nobel Prize).

    Barbara McClintock (who pretty much solved where Corn (maize) came from, by teasing out its genetics, and finding the gap; then inferring the gap was evidence of a “fortunate monster”.

    Maria Mayer: Nobel Prize for the Shell/Nuclear theory for modelling atom.

    Esther Conwell, who helped create the information age with work on semiconductors, now working on how electrical charges move through DNA; which has potential for making it easier diagnose/treat cancers. It might also make nano-computing possible.

    So that’s four. Being up on the subjects that interest me means I see lots of research done by women. Those were the one’s I recalled under pressure.

  14. Oh, also, WRT scientists–I’m having trouble thinking of any scientist, male or female, who’s both recent enough to be the beneficiary of affirmative-action type programs (which seemed to be what whasisname was getting at) and famous solely because of their work and not because of their work in media/science education (like Bill Nye and Neil DeGrass Tyson). Jane Goodall is the most recent truly famous scientist who’s known primarily for her work, and even so, she’s spend much of her career doing awareness-raising and activism. And I don’t think she’s quite recent enough to be a beneficiary of affirmative action?

  15. paul: See you are just trying to paint an entire movement with one brush. The only relevant, on-par reply would be for someone like me to say ‘why would i want to ally myself with a bunch of man-hating lesbians’.. When we all know that’s not what all femenists are like.

    I’ll bite, where are the MRAs who don’t hate women.

    @david – I can’t… oh.. so even though, “we all know that’s not what all [MRAs] are like”, you don’t know it, because you admit you can’t find any.

    Got it. You are a liar.

  16. closetpuritan–Yeah, science is so big now that it is hard to separate out individual scientists of any genders. However, for some important recent female scientists (i.e., since the fifties), I’d like to name Christiane Nüsslein-Volhard, who won a nobel for her work sorting out the developmental genetics of fruit flies, and Tomoko Ohta, who is the theorist behind nearly neutral theory, a foundational theory in evolutionary genetics.

    The reason you may not have heard of them may be that their work is more inside-baseball biology, though Nüsslein-Volhard won a nobel and nearly neutral theory is behind a lot of genomics analysis.

    In the more infamous category, the lead scientist behind the recent claim that acid baths can create stem cells is female, but there is increasing doubt over those experiments.

    If you want the more rank-and-file female scientists… may I suggest you look at your local research university’s staff page? Or open up a scientific journal. Here’s one from an open-source journal with at least two female authors, and several authors with names I couldn’t use to determine gender (like Jamie):

    http://www.particleandfibretoxicology.com/content/11/1/28/abstract

    And that was the top result, too.

  17. Thanks, wordsp1nner–but my point wasn’t really about personally being able to find famous female scientists, but that the way the media climate is, I don’t think there are a lot of recent scientists who are so famous for their work alone that they’re known even by people who follow the news a lot. (Follow the news in general, as opposed to following science specifically, even if they do read the Science section in the MSM now and then.) One point I didn’t make before but that I did kinda have in mind is that I think it takes a while before we can determine how great an impact a particular scientist makes/made.

  18. There were of course lots of women involved in D-Day who didn’t land, but nevertheless risked their lives.

    There were plenty active in the French Resistance, helping prepare for it, for example. France is only just beginning to acknowledge their contribution.

    http://theconversation.com/70-years-after-d-day-women-of-the-french-resistance-are-finally-being-recognised-27598

    About the same number of civilians as military died in the first day of the landing.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10877137/D-Day-French-torn-over-criminal-British-and-American-D-Day-bombings-of-Caen.html

  19. Slightly off-topic, but here’s something else causing a subset of privileged man-children to lose their minds: The critically-acclaimed indie game [i]Gone Home[/i] is on sale on Steam for the next 24 hours, and of course all of the gamerbros and fedoralings are coming out of the woodwork to throw mantrums about how it’s a horrible game that oppresses men. A non-violent game with a female main character? OMG MISANDRY!

    I can’t go into too much detail without spoiling the story, but I suspect if you’re a regular reader of this blog, you’ll quite enjoy it. Consider checking it out, if you like computer games. (I’m not affiliated with Steam or the game’s developers — I just think it’s a great game.)

    http://store.steampowered.com/app/232430/

  20. closetpuritan: yeah, I figured that. I just never miss a chance to introduce people to Nüsslein-Volhard. The part about checking papers was for the trolls/other readers.

  21. @ PocketNerd

    Thanks for the rec! I put it on my wishlist :D

  22. Did anyone mention Hedy Lamarr yet?

    That’s Hedley!

    For once, a Mel Brooks reference I actually get!

    On the topic of women in science, and how they just naturally don’t want to do STEM stuff, I recently learned that 70% of Iran’s STEM students are women. Must be a lot of misandric state grants going around.

    And Mikey, once again, women don’t “get” to quit once they have kids. They are usually pressured to. And anyway, raising kids is work – it’s just not paid work. Such a cushy deal, trading your career for unpaid labor, huh? Really, men should demand to be the ones who quit when they have kids, and force those lazy, bonbon-eating wimmens to stay in the workforce. You first!

  23. (I’m sure Mikey’s response to the note about Iran will be totally fair and not at all Islamophobic, orientalist or just plain xenophobic).

  24. Art-game sale with a side-order of dudebro tears? It’s like christmas has come early. :D Thanks Pocket Nerd!

  25. wordsp1nner–OK, cool. I looked up both of those ladies, they seem pretty awesome! I had heard of some of the work involved in the fruit fly genetic research, but not much about the individual scientists involved. The nearly neutral theory I hadn’t heard of, but was interesting.

    A female scientist I like Sarah Hrdy; the main reason I know about her is because of her books, which are quite good. (Media presence!) She has also done basic behavioral research on primates; her books both talk about science and advance feminism by challenging things like the idea that mothers are/should be the sole childcare providers for their children, or that it’s “natural” for mothers to stay home with their children all day. She also talks about how our cultural assumptions can influence and bias science. (Example)

  26. Everyone must play Gone Home. There are no puzzles so don’t worry if you’re not “good” at computer games.

  27. At least in circles where people know tennis, the skeptics regarding Murray/Mauresmo were not initially manifesting prejudice (I’ve only see the early reactions). The general line among those who don’t think this will help him much is that her strengths don’t match up well to his weaknesses, although I think anyone coming in after such an obvious choice to coach Murray as Ivan Lendl would be taking on a little extra challenge. Still, even if the partnership doesn’t last beyond the grass season, it’s nice to see AM so much more universally appreciated in tennis circles than she was when she was playing, and at least they’ve already outlasted the Sharapova/Connors debacle.

    I just hope the issue won’t be too groan-inducing during the Wimbledon coverage.

  28. @katz just purchased it. What a nice cheap game. :)

  29. @katz
    It’s on sale right now (for another 4 hours) so I grabbed it.

  30. Thus Spake Zarakatz:

    Everyone must play Gone Home. There are no puzzles so don’t worry if you’re not “good” at computer games.

    It’s also not reflex-dependent, so don’t worry if you don’t have the reaction time of a 14-year-old on an espresso bender.

    That’s another reason I’d love to see more games like Gone Home — both in narrative content and game design, it’s quite welcoming to demographics who wouldn’t normally consider themselves “gamers.”

  31. Direct sale puts you though Humble Bundle and you get it DRM free. Which I support, even though I tend to buy my games with DRM dumbdowns. It’s the principle that counts. I must purchase it for Mr pallygirl (pallyguy?).

    Scroll down to the bottom of this page. Basically, you end up buying it through Humble Bundle, which is the main site I support these days.

  32. Pocket Nerd, I hadn’t read up thread enough to realise you were the person to recommend the game originally. Thanks for doing that. :)

  33. @pallygirl: You’re most welcome!

  34. And for climate scientists, there’s

    Jennifer Francis (one of my favourite people)http://climatecrocks.com/2012/09/22/the-weekend-wonk-jennifer-francis-on-arctic-sea-ice/,

    geologist Maureen Raymo, http://climatecrocks.com/2014/04/09/new-video-maureen-raymo-welcome-to-the-pliocene/,

    Julie Brigham-Gette – great work at Lake El’gygytgyn http://phys.org/news/2012-06-arctic-climate-vulnerable-thought-linked.html

    meteorologist Judith Curry

    and dozens of others whose names escape me just now.

  35. Marine biologist and ecologist marinerachel…..

  36. Just going to point out that Florence Nightingale was, of course, one of the first applied statisticians. :)

  37. Marine biologist sounds like a dream job – do you scuba dive or to go exotic locations?

  38. Hah, no! Like, 1/100,000 marine biologists actually swims with dolphins and most of them work for SeaWorld (bleh.) The rest of them test water samples in the Yukon or somesuch. I’m still in school and the full extent of my research to date is benthic sample collecting for analysis of invertebrate communities. That means taking scoops of dirt from the sea floor so you can look at what squishy critters live in them at what densities. Very glamourous, I assure you.

    I’m from the Pacific Northwest and consider our kelp forests more beautiful than any tropical locale. They’re not as pastel in colour and the animals aren’t “pretty” like the ones in Finding Nemo but they’re just as varied and beautiful. My passion is orca. The likelihood anyone ever gets to study cetaceans though much less the cetacean species of their choice is minute. My interest in marine aquaculture stems from my home and love of orca. The endangered Southern Resident Orca population, who live in the Salish sea, are salmonid specialists. They consume 97% salmon and 78% of that is Chinook. It’s larger and more energy-rich than other species. They utilise their echolocation to determine the shape and density of a specific salmon they’re hunting which tells them whether it’s Chinook or not. They are picky eaters. Chinook salmon abundance levels reflect survival and recovery of this killer whale population.

    It’s in their personal and our ecological best interest to allow these two species to thrive. The orca need the wild Chinook salmon. We don’t. In order to discourage people from purchasing wild-caught Chinook salmon I want to educate them on the harm harvesting wild Chinook causes to our resident killer whales and give them an alternative. That’s why I want to develop ecologically sound aquaculture practices. Yes, in its current form, fish farms do some ecological harm though it’s blown way out of proportion by non-scientists. That’s why we collect and analyse benthic samples around them and measure the time required for these sites to recover. Our marine ecosystem’s apex predator is being KILLED by our choice to eat wild Chinook salmon though! That literally destroys our ecosystem. So I want to establish a ecologically friendly marine aquaculture system that enables people who simply MUST have their Chinook to do so without killing killer whales or burying lobster habitats in fish poop.

    There are still individuals who are convinced “BUT IT’S NOT NATURAL” and therefore conclude farmed fish can’t POSSIBLY be nutritious and delicious or ecologically friendly. I hate them. They’re stupid, selfish assholes. They don’t have to eat farmed fish but, environmentally and ethically, they have no right to be eating wild Chinook. Their satisfaction is not of greater importance than an ecosystem’s and animal population’s survival.

    I’m also appalled by the standards of what constitutes “sustainable seafood” certification. They are horribly lax and do not leave any room for long-term survival of the species they’re intended to protect. I want them to be held to higher standards, recovery standards, not “sustainable for the next five years” standards. That’s another battled though.

    Strangely I’m not SCUBA licensed, just a free-diver. I’m determined to get my certification this summer. My asthma needs to be well managed before any licensing facility will risk me though.

    And I just gave myself a shout out. That should be a douchebag merit badge. Someone, get me some Axe body spray!

  39. Wow. Words.

  40. Marketable: I didn’t know our local orcas only ate Chinook! I will avoid wild Chinook in the future.

    Do you have an opinion on the GMO salmon that’s being developed?

  41. Argenti Aertheri

    Wow, your autocorrect hates you today.

    As for female scientists, I can’t remember her name off the top of my head, but the five stages of grief? That’s a woman’s research.

  42. Kubler-Ross, but everyone knows that social scientists aren’t real scientists.

  43. Argenti Aertheri

    Thank you! But yes, silly me, my mistake.

  44. Alright, I have bought Gone Home! And finally created a Steam account. This will be the first non-JRPG game I’ve played in quite a while, besides Puzzle Pirates, which I come back to briefly every now and then. Oh, and I did also play that Sushi Cat game that I think I found out about from comments here (though that one wasn’t my favorite).

    Oh yeah, Argenti, I’ve been meaning to ask you–Do you have contact info for the admins at loaches.com? I can’t get my forum account fully activated. (I think I signed up in November.) I tried sending emails to the addresses that start with comments@ and shafer@ but never receive a response, so I don’t think anyone is currently checking them–and in order to view the admins’ info page, you have to sign in. And when I try to sign in, I get a message of “The specified username is currently inactive. If you have problems activating your account, please contact a board administrator.” Well, that’s what I’m trying to do!

  45. Honestly, EMS is a bit more exciting than marine bio. I got lucky, and got to do some undergrad work on starry flounder (Platyrichthyes stellatus is I’m recalling the spelling right) and did a seal necropsy on a 7 year old frozen ring seal born before I was.

    For the curious, there are 10 currently accepted ecotypes of orca. The pacific residents are fish eaters, the transients are mammal eaters, and the offshore are mysterious and potentially shark eaters. :)

    The North Atlantic has similar groups, and the Antarctic has two dwarf types, a mid size, and a big guy — we know some of them dare seal and penguin specialists, but we don’t know too much, yet.

    Some ongoing debate about whether we should split them up into different species… Still.

  46. Sorry, bit of love for orcas. If marine mammalogy weren’t so intimidatingly expensive and comparative… I know what I’d be doing.

    One of the southcental pods in Alaska learned how to snag fish off long lines, and there’s some people tracking the behavior. I seems like they’re teaching other resident pods to be sneaky. :)

    Fisherman hate it though. Also, most of the people on my campus love pinnipeds, so there was a lot of Orca hate. If you want to spend your life studying sealions, it’s hard to be sympathetic to a critter that literally plays fluke-ball with juvenile sea-lions on occasion, even if that’s only one group of the critter.

  47. They’re so cheeky. I’ve seen them take a bite out of a salmon on the line, the other half gets reeled in and they just bob about the boat, checking out the fishers, waiting for the fishers to give them the rest.

    I watch the southern residents bat around harbour porpoises until they’re dying, then leave them. Pulled a dying harbour porpoise into the zodiac one day after they’d finished playing with it. The final blow was ripping it’s tail flukes off. :/

  48. California’s stock of sea otters still get the prize for ‘vilest marine mammal behavior’, by a long shot. You don’t want to know. It’s awful.

    Fortunately, no observations of that behavior in Alaskan sea otter populations.

  49. Oh gods, why, why did I google california sea otters being assholes? Why?

    Really, don’t do it.

  50. Unimaginative

    Well, I wasn’t GONNA google it, but then I thought, “how bad could it be?” Bad. Don’t do it.

  51. Argenti Aertheri

    Closetpuritan — I don’t, sorry. I’ll ask the BF when he gets home, one of his ex’s is a big loach fan, maybe we can get you the info that way?

    As for otters, I saw a video not long of…you know what, never mind. It was horrid and we’ll leave it at that.

  52. @marinerachel: aha, now I understand your nym. Thanks for giving the detailed post, it was really interesting and I am pleased I asked because I figured I had completely the wrong idea.

    Never apologise for writing a interesting long post. And wow, you have an interesting field.

    And now I can feel smug for being a vegetarian (ducks and runs).

    Sorry I didn’t reply back until now, I had some pain last night, had taken a codeine and was waiting for it to kick in before going back to bed. A single 60mg tab of slow releasing codeine is wonderful for pain.

  53. pallygirl–after being reminded of the icky sea otter behavior, it took my brain surprisingly long to interpret “ducks” as the action rather than the animal. (Ducks–perhaps not as icky as sea otters, but still pretty icky.)

  54. Oooh, I’m off to the Outer Hebrides in a week’s time for a week. Staying in a cottage within easy walking distance of the beach with a really good chance of seeing sea otters. Not the ass-holish ones. I am beyond excited.

  55. LOL, @closetpuritan, I had to re-read my comment before I don’t use that word very often. And yes, ducks can be icky, particularly mallards.

    @titianblue: if you post pics, I will look at them and oooo and ahhh.

  56. Argenti Aertheri

    And then there’s the duck penis…

  57. And now I have a sort-of-semi* image I really didn’t want. /cries

    * I have no idea what a duck penis looks like.

  58. Don’t mention the duck penis!

    THere is a daddylonglegs flying around my sitting room and I fear that Minnie & Maise are about to demolish the house in their attempts to get it.

  59. Did you know that chicken semen is viable for up to 2 weeks inside a hen? So eggs laid up to 2 weeks after your hen has had sex may still be fertile?

  60. Argenti Aertheri

    Spermjacking!

    Are daddylonglegs something different there? They’re spiders here, harvestmen I think?

  61. In the UK, they’re large skinny flies with, apparently very little brain. also known as crane flies.

  62. Argenti Aertheri

    Ahh, ok. Thus explaining my hope spiders hadn’t learned to fly (if they have, don’t tell me!)

  63. Nope. Well other than the tiny ones that use silk filaments as gliders/parachutes. But they’re just teeny & cute.

  64. Sorry about the sea otters. For adorable and not disturbing marine mammals, humpback whales are very sweet!

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