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Vox Day: Honor mothers. Yes, they’re women, but without them the “Western sub-species” of Man would go extinct.

Mothers: Yes, they're women, but they sometimes give birth to boys.

Mothers: Women, yes, but without them we’d have no babies.

Happy Mothers’ Day! In honor of this special day let me share the sweet sentiments of the mother-loving Vox Day, who took time out of his busy schedule of woman-hating to write a post urging his readers to “Honor the Mothers” of the world. Or at least the non-feminist mothers of the “Western sub-species” of the human race.

Vox starts out his paean to motherhood by noting that women are mostly shitty and need to be constantly reminded of their shittiness by right-thinking fellows like him:

We are, quite rightly, very often hard on women here at Alpha Game. We need to be, because they spend most of their lives having smoke blown up their pretty little asses by people of both sexes and all ages who want to curry favor with them.

Oh, but even though women are terrible, don’t give in to the temptation of misogyny!

But never be tempted into misogyny by the bad behavior of one, one hundred, one thousand, or even one million women. They are the fate of the human race. They are the fate of the Western sub-species. They matter.

Take the day to honor the mothers of our sub-species. Well, some of them.

So, honor those who reject the nihilistic hedonism of feminism despite being literally inundated with its dogma from their earliest years and fulfill their primary destiny, that of motherhood. Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

It’s not nothing. It’s not a minor thing. Without women, there is no Man.

So even if you hate women, you need to remember that they serve a useful role as incubators of future men!

Happy Mother’s Day.

And a happy mother’s day to you too, you racist, misogynistic piece of poop.

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Posted on May 11, 2014, in all about the menz, alpha males, antifeminism, evil moms, evil single moms, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, racism, reactionary bullshit, red pill, vox day and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 116 Comments.

  1. I always wondered how someone can accidentally bork their blockquotes that way, and I’m still not sure what happened.

    Does it work like this, when you swap the places of begin and stop quoting tags?

    Or does it happen spontaneously in WordPress?

  2. bbeaty:

    No, who am I kidding. I’d still be boring and responsible.

    Specifically, you’d be boringly rigorous in your nihilism and dutifully responsible in your hedonism.

    Like, figuring that the choice of anal vs. PIV sex doesn’t matter much in the grand scheme of your contraception plan, because you’d want to use a condom in either case.

  3. Scary pictures! But entirely appropriate for the topic – those women have fulfilled their function in breeding: they don’t need faces.

    Hope everyone who celebrated Mother’s Day on Sunday had a great time.

  4. They are the fate of the Western sub-species.

    Homo eastwoodus (Marlboro Man): adept at tool-using, but not known for living in groups.

    I’ll pass on perpetuating that, thanks. Too leathery and violent.

  5. Homo non-sapiens, in the case of Mr. Beale.

    And really, anyone who thinks abortion is a mark of “hedonism” has obviously never seen the entire maternity wards full of dying women that there used to be before abortion was legalized. There was nothing “hedonistic” about those. Women got ripped off and in many cases killed by back-alley butchers taking advantage of anti-abortion laws. Doctors who worked those wards were actually relieved when the laws changed, because those dying women stopped arriving virtually overnight. They could finally dedicate maternity wards to, you know, MATERNITY again.

    And this bozo also forgets that a lot of women who have abortions before they marry, later go on to be mothers several times over. If they’re not already married and pretty much done having kids but can’t afford proper birth control on the regular, that is.

    If you can get your hands on a copy of Ursula Le Guin’s essay, “The Princess”, you’ll see what I mean by going on to have kids later. She had an abortion in her college days after a relationship fell apart, and says that if she’d been forced to go through with that pregnancy, she probably would not have gone on to marry her husband, or have the three kids they had together. A mistimed birth has blighted many a woman’s life, but I guess these assholes couldn’t be bothered to think of THAT.

  6. Apropos hidden mother photos, this might be of interest. It was a strategy to keep the baby still while photographing to make it look like the child was alone on a draped fabric background. Babies are notoriously wiggly, and the length of the exposure time was a serious consideration back then.

  7. “I understand about the long exposures. The thing I don’t understand is why it would be a bad thing to have a picture with the mother simply holding the child, without a cloth over her head. It’s not like in any of the “hidden mother” pictures I’ve seen you can’t tell there’s a person there.”

    David forgive me if someone already answered this but I think it’s because often times baby was being held by the nanny.

  8. Without women, there is no Man.

    Yep; that’s the only way we can impart any value to those women, by associating them with those beings of value, the men. Men are people; women are just, y’know, necessary to get more men.

    Men, Men, Men, dammit!

    I feel like I need to bathe to bleach to get the stink of Vox’ thinking off me.

  9. But never be tempted into misogyny by the bad behavior of … women… They matter… It is not nothing. It’s not a minor thing. Without women, there is no Man.

    A similar argument: “Let’s not hate Vox for his behavior. He may be a stinking piece of poop, but poop is good fertilizer. The earth needs to be fertilized.”
    Would you be convinced, from the above argument, that the arguer does not hate Vox?

    I wonder what it takes to clear the “yep, this really is misogyny” barrier in his mind? If throwing acid at someone isn’t hardcore enough then I’m guessing maybe murder is the only thing that qualifies.

    Considering what Vox said of Malala Yousafzai, murder will probably not qualify. But I think he believes himself when he says he is no mysogynist. Almost everyone on this planet – abusers, murderers and rapists included – think of themselves as good people. Hate for half of humanity is not good, so he would think of himself, I guess, as “realistic” or something like that.

    He’s warning his readers not to “fall into misogyny” or whatever though, so what, in his twisted little mess of a mind, is misogyny?

    If I had to take a wild guess, he’d probably say that gays are misogynist. As long as he wants sex (consensual or not) with women, he can still be said, in his mind, to “love” women.

    Without women, there is no Man.

    Did the rest of you notice that Man was written with a capital “M”?

    The PUA mindset makes Nietzsche seem like a fountain of loving positivity in comparison, so it’s pretty damn funny that they’re calling feminism nihilistic.

    Amen.

  10. I’m confused. I know it’s Vox Day, and clarity isn’t his strong suit. Or logic. Or basic human decency. But anyway, first he says:

    So, honor those who reject the nihilistic hedonism of feminism despite being literally inundated with its dogma from their earliest years and fulfill their primary destiny, that of motherhood.

    So, honor mothers who aren’t feminists. But, then he says:

    Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

    So, honor mothers no matter what they do or who they are, because they’ve done the only useful thing a woman can do, produce a baby or two. Because women aren’t people, and it doesn’t matter to the children how good a mother their mother is. Because this is Vox Day, lacking in logic and basic human decency.

    So, are we suppose to honor feminist mothers or not? From one sentence to the next, within the same paragraph, he’s contradicting himself. Honor the mothers who rejected feminism, but honor all mothers because it doesn’t matter what they do or what they think because they’ve fulfilled their primary duty by reproducing?

    Or does he actually believe that feminism makes it impossible for women to be mothers?

  11. Totally, vitally important non-derailing question!

    And a happy mother’s day to you too, you racist, misogynistic piece of poop.

    Is it better to use “poop” or “poo”? “Poop” is certainly correct, but somehow “poo” is both excretory and silly, and so seems to carry a double sting, as you are insulting someone but being lighthearted and even a bit whimsical, adding the extra sting of not taking someone too seriously.

    And hello manb… I mean Mammotheers! I’ve been missing you all.

  12. From one sentence to the next, within the same paragraph, he’s contradicting himself.

    It’s almost a truism about these guys. No, scratch that, it IS a truism.

    They’re not coming up with these ideas because they’ve reasoned them out from principles. The conclusion came first, and all the supporting sentences were slapped in on the basis of kinda sorta fitting there.

  13. Considering what Vox said of Malala Yousafzai, murder will probably not qualify [as misogyny].

    In the minds of people like Vox, Malala wasn’t shot because she was a girl. She was shot because she was doing something she shouldn’t have been doing (getting an education while female). Thus, it wasn’t misogyny.

    Whether she fulfills it gracefully and well or grudgingly and incompetently, she has done her duty. Respect that she has played her part in the miracle of life, honor her for doing her part in turning back the dark void of universal entropy.

    So, no more digs at single mothers? They’ve done their duty, after all.

  14. I am more than willing to agree that Vox and his buddies are an unfortunate sub-species of human. Can we just refer to them as Morlocks from now on?

    Mralocks?

  15. cassandrakitty

    MRAssholes.

  16. RE: seraph4377 (how appropriate) and John Beattie

    That’s it, Xxxenophile! My hubby owns practically the whole run, so yeah, that’s where it came from. Thanks for the reminder.

    RE: dustedeste

    and, frankly, dead people were really good at posing for pics

    *SNRK*

  17. It’s a day late, but I hope all the mommas out there had a happy Mothers Day.

  18. Elizabeth Mancz

    Over on Alpha Game, Mr.Beale wrote a post in which he argues that “good” Christians should ostracize women who have had abortions — in particular, men should not have any kind of a relationship with such a woman. He does indeed value women only for their ability and willingness to bear children.

  19. Or does he actually believe that feminism makes it impossible for women to be mothers?

    Of course it’s impossible! Didn’t you know that feminists love getting abortions whenever they can? There’s no possible way a feminist would ever carry a pregnancy to term!

  20. cassandrakitty

    Why is a married man even writing about “game”? That doesn’t seem very Christian-y moral of him.

  21. @ Elizabeth,

    By Mr. Beale’s logic, my entire family line (including a missionary, a WW2 medic, and a baptist preacher-man, among others) shouldn’t exist.

    My great-great grandmother had a late term abortion of her very first pregnancy, on the recommendation of her doctor and with the full support of her husband. If she hadn’t done that, she would have died in childbirth.

    Then, she never would have been able to have my great-grandpa and his siblings, and my grandpa wouldn’t exist, and so on. There are a lot of cool people in that lineage.

    Great-great grandpa n’ grandma, you two did good.

  22. Over on Alpha Game, Mr.Beale wrote a post in which he argues that “good” Christians should ostracize women who have had abortions — in particular, men should not have any kind of a relationship with such a woman.

    That is not Christian-y either. Jesus is big on forgiveness and restoration, forgetting the past and “if anyone is in Christ, that person is a new creation The old has gone, the new has come – 2 Cor 5:17″.

    But if I start making a list of non-Christian-y things Vox said, I’ll be busy for a long time…

  23. cassandrakitty

    It always seems odd to me how many American Christians are all about the Old Testament smiting and not so much into the whole Jesus-y love and redemption part.

  24. Well,thanks Mr. Vox Day. And, as a mother myself, may I say how very sorry I am that your mother did not have that post-partum abortion that I am sure she now regrets.

    Yutz.

  25. Scott Hamilton

    So where did he post this screed? It doesn’t seem to be on Vox Popoli. Does he have another blog?

  26. I’m really not sure what the western sub-species is, but I’m pretty sure I don’t quality. Does that mean I shouldn’t be a mother, or just that I shouldn’t be honored for being a mother? What if I’m an eastern sub-species? Does that mean I should be grateful that some neo-colonial d-canoe deigns to treat me as a fetish? (Interesting, the word fetish is usually used in reference to objects, not people, but it’s commonly used to refer to a non-Asian attraction to Asian women. Possibly because in such an instance, we are essentially the bit of chinoiserie on the the mantle—one presumed able to fix sandwiches.)

    What if (ugh, ick, blergh) as the result of that pairing, I happen to produce a child? Does s’he belong to the western sub-species? Or the eastern sub-species (if such a thing exists)? Should s’he be strangled at birth? What happens?

    So many questions…

  27. I’m sick of their yapping about abortion, period. I’m over 50 and do not know one woman who had one without her partner or husband knowing about it and agreeing to it. If anything, I know many more women who had their boyfriends or husbands practically demand it. Sorry, but there are way too many pregnant women abandoned after being “pumped and dumped” for the MRA tales on the subject to be believed by any reasonable person. I’m sure some women have done it , but I don’t believe for a minute it’s anything but a low number.

    @cassandrakitty

    A large number of those “Christians” are nothing but hypocrites. They only “care” about children before they are born. After that, they can starve to death and have no healthcare as far as they’re concerned. Basically, they are just concerned about forcing women to give birth.

  28. Over on Alpha Game, Mr.Beale wrote a post in which he argues that “good” Christians should ostracize women who have had abortions — in particular, men should not have any kind of a relationship with such a woman.

    Meh, I’m sure they don’t want to hang out with him either.

    What about mothers who have daughters? Are they honorable, or should they be ashamed of themselves for bringing more cootie-ridden girls into the world?

  29. How are these *cough* Christian *cough* chaps supposed to know if a woman’s had an abortion, if she doesn’t tell them? Have they acquired telepathic powers or do all the women they encounter have to answer a quiz?

    Actually it could work quite well if they do “ostracize” women who’ve had abortions – it could mean these dudes never leave their basements.

  30. Can we have lapel badges?

    Something along the lines of “Ostracize this, you misbegotten dogs’ anuses”?

    On the other hand, they’d have to honour it.

  31. cassandrakitty

    You know that if they had a way to visually identify women who’d had abortions they’d harass them, not shun them.

  32. Scott, oops, forgot to put a link in the post. It’s on his other blog, Alpha Game.

    http://www.donotlink.com/h-j

  33. You know that if they had a way to visually identify women who’d had abortions they’d harass them, not shun them.

    Sadly true.

  34. PS: Probably no one was paying any attention, but I wanted to apologize for including a link to something with (apparent) evangelical, somewhat fundamentalist text as an example of brain bleach. I think I put in the wrong link… I’ve visited another page with the kitteh and iguana image, and I love it. Iguanas. Cats. General bliss. And then…

    I didn’t notice the text ’til after I posted it. Ugh. (Though I have to admit, I have certain love of religious people whose only interest is in rescuing animals. They seem relatively harmless.)

    Another apology—By ‘such pairings’, I didn’t mean to indict all white people who date Asians. It was clumsy. (I’m bi-racial.) I meant to indict Asian fetishists. Ugh.

  35. emilygoddess

    “Ostracize this, you misbegotten dogs’ anuses”

    As a professional in the veterinary field, I object to this heinous insult against dogs’ anuses.

  36. Phoenician in a time of Romans

    Oh, Xxxenophile was interesting. Pro-sex, pro-equality, dirty as all hell, and pretty funny besides.

    “In the Third of the Darkening Years of the reign of Lestrel the Babyslapper, all of the Known World was in turmoil. The Matriarchs of the Corporate States had renounced the ancient ‘Treaty of the Blind Carp'; the Mountain Tribes were overcoming their fear of being at ground level; the Master of the Gutta-Percha Throne had begun his mad jihad against the color Orange; and the Warriors of the White Deserts were tracking sand all over everything.”

  37. Oo! Does anybody need brain bleach? I got brain bleach! http://sfglobe.com/?id=681&src=share_fb_new_681

  38. You know that if they had a way to visually identify women who’d had abortions they’d harass them, not shun them.

    @cassandrakitty Indeed!

    Although one thing puzzles me – One the one hand, women are sluts and bitches if we have abortions. On the other hand, women are sluts and bitches if we have the kid and expect the sperm do…er…dads to pony up and take responsibility. It is enough to make my poor little female brain go fizzle pop.

  39. Alex – that’s the best brain bleach EVER!

    I love it when Della’s trying to keep the ducklings in the box. “Just stay put, will you?”

    emilygoddess – how about “you misbegotten excretions from dogs’ blocked anal glands”?

  40. Really, they’re just too silly! We want to control our fertility, not destroy it. We want to chose if and when we have children and how many, not ban having kids! Remember that stupid freak out the “pro-lifers” had a week or two ago when Chelsea Clinton said she was pregnant and they couldn’t get their heads around the idea that someone known to be pro-choice might want to have kids?

  41. RE: cassandrakitty

    It always seems odd to me how many American Christians are all about the Old Testament smiting and not so much into the whole Jesus-y love and redemption part.

    I know, right? It’s why my husband hasn’t been to church in years; he was brought up in a poor Southern Baptist church that focused really hard on good deeds and community assistance, and it was a blow for him to realize his church was an exception.

    RE: Phoenician in a time of Romans

    Oh, Xxxenophile was interesting. Pro-sex, pro-equality, dirty as all hell, and pretty funny besides.

    Yup, it’s one of my hubby’s three favorite comic pornos, up there with Small Favors and Maka Maka. Hell, I read Xxxenophile for non-sexual enjoyment, because it’s not my cup of tea, sex-wise.

  42. If ducklings are raised by cats, are they kitlings or duckens?

  43. Really, they’re just too silly! We want to control our fertility, not destroy it. We want to chose if and when we have children and how many, not ban having kids! Remember that stupid freak out the “pro-lifers” had a week or two ago when Chelsea Clinton said she was pregnant and they couldn’t get their heads around the idea that someone known to be pro-choice might want to have kids?

    My mom is pro-choice, and she had six of us. Of course, she’s also worn her hair short for longer than I’ve been alive, so my mother is just a fountainhead of misandry.

  44. If ducklings are raised by cats, are they kitlings or duckens?

    The yellow fluffy ones are kitlings and the grey fluffy ones are duckens!

  45. Fate isn’t a terribly difficult word to understand, but somehow he manages to misuse it completely, which makes me think perhaps he doesn’t understand it. Which dovetails with my general impression of MRAs not having two brain synapses to rub together.

  46. All that, and he fails physics: doing just about _anything_ increases total entropy…life certainly does, it imposes greater order on a finite portion of space but the total increases.

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