No one wants to plant his seed in a garbage dump: MGTOWers explain why they prefer “chaste” women
Uh oh.
Let’s take another stroll through the strange wonderland of Men Going Their Own Way, that small and bitter tribe of men who boldly declare their independence from women, then spend the rest of their lives obsessively talking about them.
Today, let’s look at the thoughtful discussion that ensued when one such fellow known as TDG asked his Brothers in Going Their Own Way why, of all the women they have Gone Their Own Way from (but not really), they tend to prefer women who are “chaste.”
For women, I’m guessing the main reason they weren’t so slutty before the 1950s, was because of the fear of having a bastard womb turd, but the pill changed all that and now they can have as many dicks as they like.
Now, I wont ever marry again and my ex-wife was a virgin and all that went to shit, but here’s my question;
Why do men want women that are chaste…?
I understand on a visceral level, that if a woman has had too many dicks, I can never care for her more than a cum rag, but I’m curious if that is societal conditioning or something that is innate to men…
Thoughts gentlemen…?
Unsurprisingly, the gentlemen of the MGTOW HQ forum did indeed have many thoughts on the subject. (I’ve bolded the most intriguing bits.)
ManWithAPlan had an economic explanation:
Because by going through the “bad boy” phase, they fuck away their only worth. There are three things I look for in a woman (mainly). Attractiveness, fertility and youth. If a woman is attractive and young, but can’t have kids, most men will treat her as a cum rag. If she’s fertile and young, but not attractive, she’s still no good to most men. If she’s old and attractive, she’s back to being a cougar and a cum rag.
Multishadow brought in biology:
[B]iologically speaking women represent a fertile ground for man to plant his seed, and no one wants to plant his seed in a garbage dump.
Second, a man must work to earn a woman, and then invest in her.. and no man wants to work for what others gain for free, or for what was freely given out in the past. There is also resentment for a female gaining sex freely, when a man must work for it.
And that is the third issue, people in general have a distaste for those who are gluttons for pleasure. … It is one thing to obtain sex when you want it, but if your only purpose in life is laying around having sex.. it is like watching an obese person eat.
That’s right: people who have a lot of sex are basically sex fatties. And no one likes a fatty, right?
Aldenhamil suggested that chaste women were a better bargain for frugal men:
Just having random sex is one thing and any old cum dumpster will usually do, but settling down with a woman, having children, and providing for them is something altogether different. It’s a massive investment of time, energy, and resources. Men naturally lean towards frugality and appreciate getting the most bang for their buck. When it comes to women>children>family, it’s a better bet to invest in a woman who isn’t swinging from every cock in town. …
Men instinctively know that whores make poor long-term investments, but they also instinctively know that all women will become whores if given the opportunity. The whole situation is a bit of a clusterfuck, really. It was a problem for Bronze Age societies, and it’s still a problem long after we’ve managed to put human beings in outer space.
Ghost Rider noted that “chaste” women won’t have had a lot of other guys to compare you to, so chances are good she won’t know how mediocre you are in bed:
From my observations, the more men a woman has been with, the greater the chance that she is carrying at least one torch if not more for some guy that dumped her. I believe the term is alpha widow. Seen quite a few times where a woman dumps hubby to get back with a guy she was carrying a torch for, or at least conduct a torrid affair with the guy when he came a calling.
In addition, she is more likely to get back on the cock carousel trying to recapture what she thought she had when she was younger. Also, a woman who hasn’t ridden the cock carousel is a lot less judgmental in the bedroom because she isn’t comparing you to the hundreds of guys she’s been in the sack with. If you’re an average guy, you’re probably not at the same level as the alpha thug with the huge cock that fucked the shit out of her all night. If you’re dumb enough to get married/remarried, who the hell needs that shit in addition to everything else.
Demonsgate, meanwhile, seems to be more terrified of being judged by other guys than by the women he dates:
Real simple because in my younger days when I walked into a bar or restaurant with a twat I didn’t want all you bastards laughing saying yep we all fucked her and this fool is dating her. Who wants to be that guy?
Mongolking answered TDG’s question with his own question:
I think the larger question is “Why Do We Want Them… At All?”
Given that this discussion is taking place on a forum devoted to Men Going Their Own Way, this seems like a reasonable enough question.
And I’ll give you all an answer: If you hate women so much you regularly describe them as “cum rags,” “cum dumpsters,” “garbage dumps,” “whores,” “twats,” or any of the other horrible things said by guys in this thread about women in the equally awful comments I didn’t quote, you should take that Going Your Own Way shit a little bit more seriously. Go your own way. Go a long way, off a short pier.
Posted on May 4, 2014, in a woman is always to blame, alpha asshole cock carousel, alpha males, beta males, empathy deficit, evil sexy ladies, it's science!, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, racism, reactionary bullshit, thug-lovers and tagged mgtow, misogyny, racism. Bookmark the permalink. 593 Comments.
RE: Lea
Whenever my husband seems to be enjoying sex too much, I stop what I’m doing and say, “Show some decorum! You are ruining sex with all your gluttonous pleasure!
Yup, this is totally what I tell my husband. What a gourmand!
RE: Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Basically, they want to take the first scoop of peanut butter out of the new jar, then throw the rest of it away.
Okay, so this made my brain jump a few trains, from “woman as consumable object” to “people as consumable objects, ala capitalism gone wrong” to “really shitty economic theories applied to individual humans.” Has anyone else ever encountered that train wreck of WTFery that is Ladder Theory? If David hasn’t covered it, I’m tempted to rec it to him…
RE: cloudiah
Also, I am the lucky person who just got to meet kittehserf in person. We had fun! She’s just as hilarious in person as she is here.
So much envy! But it’s honestly best I stayed home last week, my brain was sending up all the red flags. At least I got the commission to her! (After a couple confusions.)
Appreciated. I’m just sad I missed meeting people :( But nobody would have been happy if I was there, believe me.
Wordsp1nner, feel better soon.
I cannot even articulate how fucking angry language like this makes me. It is inhumanely disgusting to the point where I could just NOPE my way right off the planet, and the fact that it’s so fucking common makes me feel like projectile vomiting in the face of anyone who has ever said these things.
RE: katz
You and I can be health fail buddies, even if the reasons for our inability to meet-up were completely different. :(
Ladder Theory! It’s old but still worth some mockery, imo.
RE: cassandrakitty
I totally think it’s worth it. (And I’m not just saying that because of the poor white geek boy who tried to use it on me to claim he’d never find love WHILE HE WAS DATING MY SISTER.)
If vaginas are a garbage dump, then MGTOW semen is an aerosol can filled with paint, used syringes, and compact fluorescent light bulbs. Take that shit to a recycling center.
LBT – I encountered Ladder Theory some time ago, and it enraged me. The assumptions are such bullshit – that the sex ladder is automatically the “good” ladder, that women are heartless cold bitches for wanting to be friends, that men are too emotionally immature to continue being friends after failing to get in someone’s pants. It’s the Friend Zone, with pseudo-sociological underpinnings. I’d love to see a post on it here, if it hasn’t already been dismantled.
As the saying goes, “slut” is how women are shamed for wanting to have sex. “Friend zone” is how women are shamed for not wanting to have sex.
wordsp1nner and katz – hope you both feel better soon.
I hate the Friend Zone and wish it would burn in a fucking fire. I’m mostly ace; if you’re not my husband, damn straight you’re going into my “friend zone.”
My experience with Ladder Theory was the guy trying to use it to claim that sure, he was straight and cis and white and there were three billion women on the planet, but due to Scientific Logic barely any of them were worth being with, which was why he’d never find the love of his life or some such bullshit.
@house mouse queen
” I have my own methods too but I actually feel the slime of these crazy fuckers with every line I read to the point of having to watch other things for a while just to be able to dive right back into the shit pile.”
Ugh. Can we not do that ‘people being dicks’= ‘crazy people’ thing. :/
I just look at it this way. For every MGTOWer out there, there’s a bajillion guys who ARE the cock carousel. And a few gals too. So it’s not exactly like if these vile twerps ever actually DO manage to go their own way that they will be any loss whatsoever– and it’ll probably improve the gene pool somewhat.
I believe we will end up in the same place someday. I BELIEVE!
@wordsp1nner, I wish I got to meet her in Australia, but actually she came to Los Angeles. I’m saving up money to go to Australia, and if/when that happens I will definitely visit her there too!
@LBT, she showed me the drawing you did — it is fantastic!
MGTOW are such a fascinating hate group. They’re tethered by their own lust and can’t sever the cord. Racists would just as soon never cross paths with a PoC, but MGTOW desperately want sex from the people they despise. It leads to some very ugly psychology and behavior.
RE: katz
ONE DAY I WILL MAKE IT TO THE WEST COAST. ONE DAY.
RE: cloudiah
Aw, I’m glad! I had to break out my brush for that one; I haven’t drawn on paper more than half that size in years. Good practice!
Hey so I couldn’t log into my old WordPress account, but I wanted to have a cat again, so, umm, this is still dustydeste, I just subbed out a letter. Just posting this for transparency, so I don’t forget to later. At any rate, yay cat! *Does celebratory wiggle dance*
All Mammotheers are also invited to come visit me at the Gold Coast if you’re ever in Australia and in the area.
All I’m hearing these nasty little cretins saying is: “these women have more sex than us, how dare they have more sex than us it’s not my fault i’m a repugnant turd and my looks aren’t enough to make up for my repulsive personality.”
I don’t even have words for these type of people. And I honestly don’t get who, except a very, very, VERY insecure person, would value virginity. Like why would you WANT to have sex with someone who was inexperienced? There’s not much pleasure to that. Then again these doodz probably get off on the idea that they are taking their innocence and corrupting them and that they wouldn’t know what they are doing. And they clearly seem to think sex is just insert penis into vagina and remove it and then repeat for 30 seconds before passing out and going to sleep.
I feel bad for anyone who has slept with them. They are a shining point (among many) for why I have avoided sex thus far. Not just the whole women hating dudebro convention thing, but the selfish, crappy lover thing.
LBT:
But then it would be redundant with “attractiveness” he also mentioned. Also, he specifically mentioned the ability to have children. I think these guys often fail to understand what “fertile” is supposed to mean in evopsych jargon, so they just go with the common language meaning and assume it’s a desirable quality in women, and who cares why.
Also, I didn’t understand how a woman would “fuck away” her attractiveness or fertility during her “bad boy phase”. Youth, maybe, but you lose your youth regardless of any fucking. Maybe he equates youth with unspoiledness, assuming all women become sluts at the same age, in which case his argument would be that unchaste (read: adult) women are worthless because they’ve lost their worth.
Lea:
While I know the story of Justinian and Theodora, I initially read that as: “was saved because of the fedora he wore”. This blog is really priming my brain to certain words.
I haven’t even read the blog post, the caption on the title picture was enough. “Uh oh.”
Snickers.
But you’re not supposed to be looking for a woman at all! Just go already!
I grow courgettes in my compost heap. It seemed to be producing magnificent crops of tasty veg. Have I been doing it wrong all this time?
What really confuses me is why these guys are so keen to have children when they hate human society.
@dustedeste
Thanks for telling us :3 ps: your new cat avatar is super cute.
I would hardly call myself a ‘womb turd.’ Calling anyone that is just… wrong.
Well, if you wanted to have sex with someone in particular and they happened to be a virgin, then that would be a good reason to want to. If you fancy someone and especially if you care about them as well, then their experience or lack thereof shouldn’t really matter.
And I’ve always had a bit of a thing for shy, geeky, inexperienced guys. They might not have their skills honed, but they are often fun, enthusiastic, considerate and keen to learn. I’ve also been with guys who’ve had plenty of experience but were terrible in bed.
So, there is nothing wrong with finding an inexperienced person attractive if you’re seeing the whole person. It’s just how these guys fetishize virginity/inexperience because they can’t see women as whole people that is creepy.
@Mike:
Some of the attitudes towards children/parenthood that crop up in the manosphere are really disturbing. Some common ones are
– Children are property
– Childcare is extremely easy (which becomes dangerous when it’s paired with “so I should get primary custody of my children,” because parents who have no clue what childcare entails are not going to give their kids what they need)
– I shouldn’t have to pay for my kids needs if I’m not seeing them. That’s their mother’s problem!
– Men who have struck their children should still be allowed to see them. It’s a “father’s right.”
– Non-biological children do not deserve affection or support. This is true even if you find out several years into their lives that they are not biologically yours.
I feel so sorry for the children of MRAs.
And here I thought the family scenes in Me, Myself, and Irene were endearing.
@LBT
I just googled “ladder theory”. NOPE. NOPE. NOPE. NOPE.
More random people on the internet telling me what I am attracted to. It is amazing. I have been me for 30 years, but I need someone else on the internet to tell me what my experience is. Seconding/thirding this as a possible WHTM topic suggestion.
P.S. Thanks for your blog post.
@wordsp1nner @katz (and anyone else really)
I don’t know if dancing parrots will make you feel better, but here are some dancing parrots in case they do.
Hmm funny. I’ve only ever had sex with one person and yet I can still tell good sex from bad. Its almost as if I can tell what gets me off or something and sex isn’t just something that just happens to me. But what would I know. Apparently I haven’t eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil by not fucking a bunch of different men and I’m supposed to think my man is mind blowing in bed (he isn’t. Guess what, his dick isn’t the only reason I’m with him. I actually like him as a human being, empty wallet and all). What a strange fetish they like. Women with no experience, who are less likely to be active participants. Women who will probably not enjoy sex as much with them because they havent figured it out yet, and because of nerves/awkwardness/embarrassment. Man, wouldnt only having sex with ‘virgins’ be boring?
Frankly I wouldnt be super keen on the idea of having sex with someone who has had many different partners. Mostly because of STIs. But if they are clean and the behaviour wasn’t something that came out of disrespecting those previous partners, then it becomes a non issue. Sex comes with enough baggage without being shamed for actually enjoying it.
@Arctic Ape: “fertile” is a dogwhistle for “very young”. Among their dipshit pop-evopsych ideas is the belief that evolution mandates they have sex with teenage girls, because by the time a woman hits 21 her fertility starts to drop and when she turns 30 her ovaries spontaneously combust. They like to argue that it’s natural and evolutionarily optimal for teenage girls to want to bang men old enough to be their dads.
Re: “ladder theory”, check out this site. Be sure to look at the left sidebar…bottom of it. “Visit Dumb.com” — yup, I think I just did. Thanks for the unfunny jokes. And really…When Harry Met Sally? Oh puhleeze. It would all be infuriating if it weren’t so laughable. A movie ≠ reality. How many times does it have to be said?
Arctic Ape,
HA! That caused me to imagine Justinian punting on a fedora and doing the dramatic ground hog turn toward the rioting crowd. A hush falls over them as he points to his awesome hat and they all shuffle their feet a while and then go home.
I wish reality was more like my imagination.
Yeah for Kittenserf sightings!
titianblue,
My compost pile has volunteered tomatoes and peppers. I’ve seen compost piles grow watermelons too.
Viscaria,
“I feel so sorry for the children of MRAs.”
So do I.
2D man,
The sons in that movie were the only part I liked. As adoptive parents my husband and I find the claim that men cannot love or love to care for kids who are not biological offspring to be offensive and insulting to men. Plenty of men foster, adopt or make excellent step parents. If these guys can’t do the same, it isn’t very nice of them to blame their entire gender.
The bit about racists isn’t necessarily true. I’ve seen WN types complain about WoC not wanting to date them, and of course there are the “submissive Asian bride” fetishists and Roosh waxing rhapsodic about Brazilian women…
But your other point, yes. I’m often struck by how ironic it is that some of the worst misogynists are also hetero. They hate us, but they want to fuck us, and the cognitive idssonance just seems to fuel their rage.
Seconded.
Actually, there are plenty of racists who DO sleep with people of other colors. Donald Sterling was recently outed as one; this guy is another. It’s all part of their ranking scheme of the cosmos. They totally hate Group X/Y/Z, but still want to fuck them, just to show them who’s boss.
The hypocrisy it takes to be a hater is astounding, any way you look at it.
Buttercup: How would he know a woman is fertile unless she’s had a previous pregnancy? Which would require her to have had previous sex.
You get a virgin. You have sex. If, after a while, she’s not pregnant, you dump her for another one; until one of them gets pregnant.
Logic. :)
Mythago – I’ve read enough at creepypms to have noticed that. The ‘age is just a number ‘ shtik coming from a man my age who would never even consider a woman his own age has gone beyond cliche. I don’t even want to imagine what it is that they’re imagining would happen if they actually found a woman less than half their age who was willing to meet them.
Someone mentioned Emperor Justinian upthread.
I would like to mention another monarch: King Henry II of England. You know, father of Richard the Lionheart and King John. His wife, Eleanor of Aquitaine, was one of those “slutty” women the MGTOWs whine about. She was a decade his senior AND she’d been married to the King of France AND she’d allegedly had an affair with her uncle. She was also the richest heiress in Europe. With their marriage, England got a nice chunk of land on the European continent, more income, AND a new royal dynasty (the Plantagenets).
This has been a history lesson. Carry on.
It must be exhausting to carry around so much contradiction.
Despise and detest women – desire them.
Enshrine ‘fertility’ as an intrinsic value – despise children (“bastard womb turds”??)
Scorn women on the basis of their ‘fertility’ – obsess about your ‘seed’ and its destinations.
Vaunt the intrinsic value of your seed – hate anyone you want to put it in.
Go your own way without women – keep thinking about them, ranting about them, and complaining that they may not want to sleep with you.
Obsess about purity, chastity, cleanness – defile defile defile.
Obsess about other men’s cocks and sperm – definitely not gay.
Fantasise about male on male rape – no, really, not at all gay.
Desire women – despise and detest them.
Repeat ad nauseam.
I’m also a fan of quiet, nerdy fellas. If you can get them talking, they tend to stop being quiet and start being hilarious. At least the ones I like to hang out with tend too. Hubby grew a beard and has been wearing Hawaiian shirts. He’s rocking the sexy Grisham look.
Of course, not all quiet nerdy guys look a certain way. Some of them look like bouncers from a biker bar and you wouldn’t know that they are funny or nerdy, because they are quiet. I like them too. One of my best guy friends fits that bill. He’s quiet. He’s an artist, a natural born comedian and nerd, but he kinda looks like the guy the mob would send if you were late paying them. The young woman I mentioned on another thread who is going into the military used to ride around on his back screaming, “Master Blaster runs Bardertown!”, while he chuckled. Kids seem to think he’s a jungle gym. He recently married one of my other besties. They’re very happy.
WOOHOO ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE! Sorry, she’s one of my history crushes. I remember seeing something a while ago called the “Medieval First Wives’ Club” about medieval/early modern divorcees, and of course she was on it! I’ll Google for it later when I’m not at work.
I woke up this morning with my baby boy lying asleep on top of me because he’d been up early, wanted cuddles, and we fell asleep on the couch. It was one of the most sublime feelings I have ever had, and people who would refer to either of my little darlings as “womb turds” do not ever deserve it.
If necessary, make double figs at the Pope and found your own church just so’s you can dump her for another one.
You know how there are women who just can’t bring themselves to love the babies they were impregnated with due to rape? Well it’s the exact same thing with men and the children who are the result of their formal/common-law wife’s treacherous deceptive betrayal, the children are a constant living reminder of that betrayal of legally sancosanct/religiously-sacred trust , that they were made an utter fool of, that they were defrauded paternity- wise, tricked into wasting their precious time on this earth and suffering/enduring the proverbial ‘blood, sweat, tears’ for such an utter lie. Now of course it’s not the kids’ fault at all and they do deserve the love and affection of parents, but not every man has the capability to be so mercifully forgiving of the mother and so magnanimously generous to the bastard offspring as to continue acting in that capacity once they learn the ugly truth and to expect each and every individual man to be so and do so is outmost unfair considering that women have the legal right to abort merely just because she feels like it, even over the objections of the biological father of the fetus. Basically, women want to preserve their cake and still devour it too, the freedom to violate their marital obligations with impunity and yet make the aggrieved husband continue to bear liability for the results of their adultery. In any other contract, no one in their right mind would blame the offended party in good faith for rescinding the contract due to willful breach of trust and cutting all ties with the other offending party in bad faith. If anyone should be liable for future support , financial and emotional and what have you, of the not just illegitimate but also inauthentic heirs , shouldn’t it be the actual biological fathers of the said children? It’s adding insult to injury, you were poisoned already and now you’re still going to be forced to keep on paying to have that poison remain in your system. Madness! And I would imagine that what women, not just feminists, would say is that it’s the man’s fault why the woman cheated in him in the first place! Hah! Women can never do any wrong and men can never do any right, huh? Not! And yet , if these women were placed in an equivalent situation, say the husband knocked up a mistress and forced the wife to care for it along with her own children, they would most likely scream bloody murder! Bah, such hypocrisy!
Please be quiet forever.
Bina – well, that’s true, there is the racist mail-order-bride angle. Although, skin color doesn’t have insurmountable biological urges attached to it – it’s more their emotional need to dominate, control, and degrade. MGTOW probably don’t distinguish much between the two.
Pecunium:
Logical, and efficient! And not at all likely to leave behind a trail of emotional devastation.
I could see that dynamic repeating itself, particularly if the timing always happens to fall in the wrong part of her cycle. Or if the fertility issue lies with the MGTOW and he doesn’t figure it out for a long, long time. Given their penchant for denial and arrogant machismo, it’s doubtful they would bother getting their liquid gold tested. Not when there’s a woman to blame.*
*Great. Now I have “Margaritaville” stuck in my head.
Random Loser,
The MGTOW featured in this post were talking about single mothers and other women with previous sexual experience. Nobody was talking about cuckolding.
Your teal deer is way off topic.
You know that feeling when you read a rant so epically wrong that you don’t even know where to begin? That’s how I feel about RandomPoster’s teal deer up there. If the wrong were packed any more densely it’d collapse into a black hole.
Agreed that Eleanor of Aquitaine is the best.
Assayed, surely.
RandomJackass: Paragraph breaks are your friend. TL;DR, wank about evil women to people who give a shit.
Go eat your cake directly on the beach, Random Loser.
A male “traditionalist” who marries is distinguished by the “before” and “after” phases. In the “before” phase, we have a sanctimonious prick who announces that he won’t marry a woman unless she is a virgin. In the “after” phase, we have an embittered misogynist who married a 23-year-old virgin and was stunned — STUNNED — to discover that the woman he’s married to doesn’t like to fuck.
One of the most enduring macho myths — ancient as the world itself and persisting even among educated men who should know better — is that the right man can marry a “pure” woman who isn’t particularly interested in sex and “awaken” her to the pleasures of the flesh with what he deems to be superior sexual technique (e.g. marathon sex, furious finger-banging, whatever — my experience is that a man who adheres to such ideas doesn’t know the first thing about being a good lover). These dudes need a crash course in basic human physiology. In both men and women, the sex drive is a function of complicated body chemistry, which has nothing to do with how hard you can pump or how furiously you can twirl your appendages. And anyone who remains “pure” past one’s teen years (and hasn’t been trapped in a religious fundamentalist lifestyle) is probably that way because they have relatively little interest in sex.
…actually, depending on what type of garbage is in your dump, that’s a great place to plant seeds. One of the theories of early agriculture is that the midden heaps and latrine pits fertilized seeds that were redeposited there. One of the many reasons I want a time machine. Analogy fail.
RandomPoster, paragraph breaks are your friend. Although I don’t think there’s much one could do to help your rant-o-rama there. It would much simpler and more efficient to simply post “raaaararrrrrargharrrrrrraahhhhh!!”
It’s the hostility of the MFTGTOW (Men Failing To Go Their Own Way) that I find creepy and horrible. “Cum dumpster”? That’s pretty nasty.
Oh joy, another incoherent, irrelevant wall-o-text from RandomPester.
Please to fuck off.
Heh, typical modern female. Not just feminist, oh no, all modern females indeed. Demands constant recognition and affirmation of her own position but immediately dismisses and ignores male opinion that she doesn’t agree with and/or approve of. And yet, eternally complaining that males do it to females. Which is why none of the female posters here and white knight male posters here bothered to discuss the other valid points in this article (even one is much too many for them, i’m sure). Like for instance how no self-respecting man wants to be like Rose’s husband in the Titanic movie. Imagine, you devoted the majority of your adult life to this woman, and at the end she thinks of you not at all and still pines for her very first boyfriend who she knew for a week at most with you being just a placeholder. This is proof of why the war of the sexes will never be truly over as our contrasting instinctive reproductive strategies will inevitably result in both sides putting one over the other so to speak at some point. No wonder why sex is also called ‘screwing’. Sigh.
Ninja’d by hellkell! Seriously, why are these dudes always so averse to using the ‘return’ key? Is it misandry to use paragraph breaks?
“Rarghargabrahhharghhhhhhhhh!!!!!” Uh huh. Cool story, bro.
Rape victims’ experiences are not for you to appropriate for the sake of making a shitty argument against the legal obligation of child support. Fuck off.
And if “illegitimate” children are “bastard womb turds”, just remember: It’s a bastard who did the shitting in that womb.
Actually, this is why you’re a loser and no woman finds you attractive. You babble a lot, and all of it is nonsense. Shut up and go away.
Aw, babby thinks he’s entitled to a debate. Cry moar, babby.
Randomloser,
Are you saying that only women pine for a lost love? And your evidence for that is a movie? Your opinion isn’t being taken seriously because it is pathetic.
RandomPoster: You realize you are citing a work of fiction (created by a man) and a fictional character as “proof” of how women supposedly victimize men? Just wanted to make sure you are aware that movie isn’t a documentary.
Also, again this macho stupidity on the supposed magical quality of sex. Look: Rose would not have needed to have sex with whatshisface in order to fantasize about him while ignoring her husband. It’s perfectly possible to be infatuated with someone without having slept with them. So if you think a virgin is a woman who can’t possibly have ever loved someone other than the man she’s engaged to, you are very much mistaken and need to grow the fuck up.
Funny how that sounds like countless guys I know.
No one here is obligated to take seriously an article littered with misogyny.
@Random Poster, you probably aren’t worth my time, but here goes.
Yes, infidelity is harmful and wrong. Cheating is not even in the same category as rape, so never compare the two again.
Abortion of a pregnancy is 1not nearly as easy as you seem to think (especially currently in the US) & 2not the same as casting a born child from your life.
Yes, the pregnant woman in question should have ultimate say over continuing that pregnancy. She’s the one facing the not trivial health risks.
Nice try, but I don’t know any feminist men or women who believe women “can do know wrong,” they simply believe women are human and capable of doing both right & wrong, just like men.
I have a two year old. Were I to discover there was a mixup at the hospital and he isn’t my biological son, it would not change my love for him in the slightest. He’s my child. I worry about him when he’s sick, console him when he cries, rejoice with him when he laughes. I enjoy watching him discover the world and learn how to express himself. I like to teach him and watch him grow. In short, I adore the person he is and thw person he’s becoming. This has absolutely nothing to do with genetics.
Damn. I thought Random Pester left forever.
emilygoddess:
Yep. It’s like, I know those are actual words. Those words, written in English, that I can read and understand. Those words are strung together into actual sentences, that I can also read and understand. But putting all those specific words into those specific sentences in that specific order has created something of such incomprehensible wrongness that all I can do is gale at it, with my mouth open.
Now, I’ll try a specific. I’ll start with the first sentence, because I can’t get to far into it with my brain going blank:
Random Poster: You just compared being cuckolded to being raped. If you seriously believe those two things to be equivalent, then you fuck off. Fuck off, right now, and don’t come back. That is vile.
Random Pester also doesn’t seem to understand that fetus does not equal baby.
RandomAsshole: Too stupid, didn’t read. What I did instead was notice this little gem:
So onto this extremely serious and worthwhile topic: As an ESL speaker, I just don’t get this expression. Isn’t the very purpose of having cake eating it? WHY is there cake if the cake can’t be et? WHY?
Also, why does RandomAsshole think that a woman needs to have sex with a guy to pine for him? They’re trying to make this into a situation where they don’t want to be the woman’s second (or last) choice, which is understandable, I mean, who does? but they in some convoluted way make it all about teh sexytiems… like if she was sleeping with someone else first, that makes you automagically second and thus the loser, since the guy who got there first is the “winner”, even though she may have CHOSEN to have a relationship with you that she didn’t choose with the other guy. It makes no sense other than as a form of slut shaming.
Also also, pining for a lost love is not something that’s unique to women.