An open thread for personal stuff, continuing from here.
As usual for these threads: no trolls, no arguments.
Posted on February 7, 2014, in off topic, open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 1,059 Comments.
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The main risk would be spending a lot of extra money on expensive protein foods that provide no additional nutritive value, I think.
Problems associated with too much protein.
p.s. kittehs, or someone, can you remind me what that Firefox editing tool is — I thought maybe we should add it to the Welcome Package. In fact, anyone who knows can just leave it as a comment there if you want.
kittehserf:
Awesome! Thanks! You’ll be getting gmail from a variety of shave ice.
auggziliary:
I honestly couldn’t tell you right off what the risks involved are, but I can tell you that folks who overuse protein powders and such are only going to gain weight, and not muscle weight. Most of that supplement stuff in general is a no go for me, but I am a single study. And you didn’t even mention stuff like that, so I’m mostly rambling. So, have conveniently positioned cat in a bag.
Aw man, I’m eating too much protein. I can’t think of many healthy foods that don’t have protein, besides produce.
Shia LaBoeuf’s name is french for “the beef”. I just noticed that.
RE: auggziliary
Just wondering, is it possible to eat too much protein?
I figure it’s possible to eat too much of ANYTHING.
I can’t think of many healthy foods that don’t have protein, besides produce.
O_o Are you on some kind of special diet or have a bunch of intolerances or something? I’m on a fairly strict food plan for ED recovery, and I have TROUBLE keeping my required protein up. I mostly eat, yes, produce, and my grains usually come from cereal (Cheerios!), wheat bread, pastas/couscous, and rice. Those are all perfectly healthy to eat!
(For those who are curious, my proteins mostly come from milk, yogurt, cheese, edamame, and since moving here, my roommates have been feeding me meat but I’m trying to stop.)
I eat like soymilk, whole oatmeal, cereal(the kind I get is basically like oatmeal but with more protein), cottage cheese, plain greek yogurt, tofu, occasional protein bar*, almonds, and lots of produce.
*I eat this because I get cravings for chocolate and I don’t want to eat sugar, so I get one of those protein bars without sugar and break it up into quarters. I think I’ll get sugar free chocolate pudding mix. Or make chocolate chia pudding.
Wow. That’s pretty low-carb there. Are there health reasons for that? Like, everyone has different dietary needs, but you’re describing a diet that sounds pretty high-protein and low-carb.
auggziliary: Have you considered dark chocolate instead of the protein bars? 72% cacao chocolate has less sugar than the common candy bar, and has some health benefits to boot.
Btw, thanks for the health advice earlier. I did wind up getting the elliptical at a massive discount, and it’s been working great for me. I’m up to 30 minutes a day and holding, and I’ve only missed one day since I started.
It’s just because I don’t know what’s really healthy to eat that isn’t super high protein. Most whole grains already have a lot of protein and such. I might just eat more fruits and veggies.
I forgot to add: I get this coconut ice cream that’s sugar free. For some reason it has a TON of fiber in it. I think it’s pretty healthy, since it’s just coconut fats(which aren’t bad) and fiber nutritionally. It tastes awesome, but I can’t eat a whole carton on a bad day, since I might poop a car.
Leftwingfox, I’ll get that instead.
I get those bars because at the convience store, it’s either junk food or protein bars. On campus there’s no grocery except those little stores. I take the bus to get to Kroger to get most of my food.
RE: auggziliary
Okay, like I said, everyone’s needs are different, but here is the plan I’m on, which is strict enough to keep me honest but flexible enough to give me some leeway. Every day, I need to eat:
3 servings of fruit (or 2, which I do)
3 servings of veg
3 servings of protein
3 servings of fat (not gonna lie, I usually skip this one, or at least don’t check for it)
6 servings of carbs
I have a big honking list of various examples of these serving sizes, and what counts as what, but I usually use what’s on the box, or now that I’m a little steadier on my brainhealth, what feels right to me.
Also, sure, whole grains have protein… but under my plan, they count as carbs. And I eat pasta and rice that aren’t as high in protein.
Happily, most of the health problems with protein (cholesterol, gaining weight, etc) are mostly applicable to meat proteins, so in that respect I think you’re in the clear, auggz.
One thing you should consider is getting complete protein. Grain + dairy/legumes = complete protein. To much of the latter (or the former) means that you won’t be getting all the amino acids you need, which also inhibits your ability to metabolize the protein that you are eating.
What would a fat serving be?
RE: katz
I heard that the complete protein thing was bullshit. Anyone else know anything about this? (Not that it’s a concern of mine right now, but the kids are vege and I’d like to go vege myself, so…)
RE: auggzliary
Nuts. Butter. Peanut butter. Crap like that. Like I said, I tend to skip it. (Probably not the best idea, but I figure I get enough fat from yogurt and whole milk and shit.)
Cool. They should be pretty easy to find these days; all the coffee shops in my area carry it in one form or another. So do the grocery stores, health stores, drug stores, Bulk Barn…
It’s not too difficult for most to get complete proteins I think, even as a vegan. I was a vegan for about 2 years, and I’m vegetarian now.
Avocados are a good source of fat, LBT. I love avocado.
They sell lindt bars that are 90% dark, and not sweetened. It’s good for cravings, but only if you like dark chocolate.
YMMV but I find that dark chocolate starts getting bitter around 82~85% — it needs some sugar to be edible.
And I think the fiber in the coconut foodstuff may be naturally occurring, but don’t quote me on that.
LBT: Not bullshit, but tends to be overblown by anti-vegans.
As long as you get enough of the nine essential proteins in your diet (the ones your body can’t create itself), you’re golden, and most of the complete ones are common now. Lentils+grains (hell, even a peanut-butter sandwich) will give you the complete proteins you need, as will chia, soy, quinoa, and hempseed.
Well auggz, you can join the exclusive club that so far has one member — my brother. It’s called “people who can stomach 90% dark chocolate”.
Avocados…I think Pecunium and I agreed that they’re icky.
Yeah I think the fiber is just from them grinding up coconut meat into the coconut butter. It’s got 10 grams (40% daily value) per 1/2 cup. I can’t taste it, so I think it’s just naturally there from the coconut.
I want to make my own rose flavored kind since I have one of those fancy blenders. I’m a sucker for rose flavored things. Turkish delight is the shit.
I like avocado too, usually, but after I got a bunch of bad ones in a row, I kinda got turned off them. And they go off so QUICKLY too…
Argenti You can add me to the 90% club too. I prefer my chocolate in the 72% range, but every once in a while, I’ll grab a little piece of uncut stuff. :D
RE: Argenti
YMMV but I find that dark chocolate starts getting bitter around 82~85% — it needs some sugar to be edible.
HERESY. The less sugar is in it, the less ADULTERATED it is. Admittedly, I don’t care for the texture of raw cacao, but oh man, I ASPIRE to the mythical 99% bar. *salivates*
RE: leftwingfox
As long as you get enough of the nine essential proteins in your diet (the ones your body can’t create itself), you’re golden, and most of the complete ones are common now.
Okay, thanks. I don’t think that’ll be a problem, since I never plan on going vegan.
I kind of want to eat mushrooms, but I don’t know how. Sometimes they make me really nauseous. Just saute them with spices?
(I’m talking about portobello kind).
I LIVE!
Feels like forever since I hung around here. Kinda lost track back when I totaled my car, lost my job and got a tumblr. But here I am!
Let me light a scented candle for the occasion.
Hi there Amnesia!
*waves at computer screen* Hi there, Ally S!
Hi Amnesia, welcome back!
Hi Amnesia, good to see you again!
*keeps waving at computer screen* Hi, cloudiah!
Now to dive into some of the archives and see what I missed. Any exceptionally noteworthy trolls to speak of?
@cloudiah
It’s the Text Formating Toolbar add-on. You can find it here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/text-formatting-toolbar/
Myoo, cloudiah – done!
Amnesia – apart from Michael “I LIVE DIRECTLY ON THE FUCKING BEACH” on the Dalrock thread, the trolls have been very, very poor quality. Gone are the days of quality trolls like Owly or DKM or even Antz.
Hi amnesia! Welcome back!
Oh that’s right, Michael was hilarious.
And thanks, Myoo and kittehs!
noon avocados are awesome. Mostly for their guacamole functions, but they’re okay in sandwiches too.
@Amnesia
Hi! Your Al with the kitty avatar always makes me smile. XD
I like avocados! Favourite sammich at the moment: chicken, cheese, avocado and spinach. Sounds weird but it’s good. Actually almost anything involving chicken and avocado is good as long as there’s no hot stuff included.
Agree that they go off too damn quickly, though.
My favorite food right now is blueberries and fresh spinach. I just like produce in general. A big bowl of fruits and veggies is awesome.
I LURV avocadoes, and will gladly eat all the avocadoes that other manboobzers turn their noses up at.
I used to hate avocados until I had some guacamole I actually liked. Now I think avocados are delicious.
My gf tried making non-hot guacamole for me last time I visited the US. I don’t remember if it was the flavour or just that for me it was still hot, but it wasn’t a success. :(
*note to self* Do not invite Pecunium over when you’re making quesadillas with guacamole and mango salsa.
There’s an “arson, murder, and jaywalking” situation for you.
@auggz, you can grill a portobello cap and eat it on a bun, like a burger. Very tasty with a chipotle aioli! Google should be able to give you some marinades to work with.
@kiwi girl
Nothing, yet :/ Luckilly they’ve stopped hurting non-stop (still some weirdness). My mom forgot to make an appt for me on saturday (and I forgot to remind her) and couldn’t get an appt for the eye doctor until wensday. I’m not fighting to go sooner because 1) like I said, they got a little better and 2) we have a snowball’s chance in hell of being able to afford an emergency room bill.
@kittehs
For bras? We don’t have an 8. We do by inches around band, plus cup size. Ex: 34DD.
@kiwi girl
150$! Us money? Or something else? Cuz in US money that’d be ridiculous. I’ve seen good bikinis online (that give you support) for closer to 60$ (us) and cheap ones in stores for 15$. My current one I got at goodwill for 4$, so 150$ sounds rather…off.
@kittehs
Okay, on this note, I am wearing one of my favorite shirts, which so far, has lasted 6 years. It’s pretty thin and clingy, but they actually made it out of something that doesn’t tear all the time and I would kill to remember where I bought it, because it was such a great find.
@auggz
I know nothing about eating healthy, so I can’t really help you :/
@amnesia
Hiiii!!! :D Welcome back :3
Also, since this is an open thread, I’m going to blabber about my awesome day!! :D
I finally went to the doctor for mental health stuffs, which was a huge relief. She thinks I either have depression and anxiety OR bipolar, and wants to send me to a pshychologist to help find out. I got put on sleepy pills, a new antidepressant (the last one was about as useful as trying to think happy thoughts) and a pill that is supposed to do ..something (idk what) to take when I”m having a panic attack.
My new doctor is so much better than my old one so far, she’s much more ‘hang in there, things will get better’ ect and much less ‘but why aren’t you going to college your such a bright girl’ and I think I may actually be able to tell her when I’m getting suicidal thoughts, something I never told my last doctor out of worry of whatever the fuck she’d do.
/blabbering about myself.
That’s great news, Marie!
Blabbering about ourselves is what open threads are for.
Our bra sizes get called the same as clothing (so I’m a 16D) as well as the inches plus cup. Which is kind of silly in a way since we went metric decades ago.
@katz
I will eat all your quesadillas with guacamole and mango salsa. That sounds delicious. And I love avocados, by themselves or as guacamole.
Oh, and as for your other comment, I also neglected to mention being dumped by a boyfriend and having my hard drive crash, the latter being far more traumatic than the former. The relationship wasn’t working for either of us (as in, why didn’t I dump him after he yelled “Bitch!” out the car window at a woman driving too slow for his tastes). The hard drive, on the other hand- “How could you do this to me? I thought we had something special!” *insert weeping and gnashing of teeth*
@Fade & Marie
*still waving at computer screen* And a fine hello to you and you. Nice to see my avatar and I are not as forgotten as my username would have some believe. :)
Marie, that’s great! Glad it went so well.
I second this notion!
Hi Amnesia! I don’t think I’ve seen you before *friendly waves*
@marie – yay! I’m glad you got to the doctor about the anxiety stuff, and if the panic-attack pills they gave you are the same ones I’ve got, those things are kind of awesome in the “start-bracing-for-a-shitty-day-take-a-pill…oh wait, that was it?” kind of way. It’s weird how all that crazy worked-upness can just go away when it’s never done that (at least for me) before :) (but they can make you a bit sleepy – I missed morning classes after having one to quash a 5AM anxiety attack the other month).
General – Avocados are great, as well as dark chocolate of any grade. Really, I’m just kind of a glutton. All food is belonging in my face! :D
I was going to suggest a little bit of garlic and a good balsamic vinegar on your mushroom saute. That always works out for me. Bonus joy for melting mozzarella on top before sticking it in a sammich, but emily’s idea sounds yummy too…so, go with your gut (har!), Auggz .
So, I am super late to the discussion, but BRAS!! Heehee!
Seriously – big busty ladies (and others with boobs) like myself, check out brastop.com.
It helps if you go into Nordstroms or something and get sized in a couple of different brands. Because they do fit differently. Then go buy what you want at brastop.com. They’re based in the UK, but do ship internationally. And they are way cheaper than anything else I’ve found. They have a huge range of sizes and styles, but their stock is mostly overruns or previous year’s models, so they won’t have a plethora of the same style in different colors, and such.
They also go way down to small band sizes and small cup sizes, so if you can’t find a 28B in stores, go there.
Their are so much cheaper than both bravissimo and figleaves, it is amazing.
Brastop and Simply Beach Lingerie (not as regularly cheap, but some great sales) are my go to places for bras. (For reference, I’m a 34G(+ depending on the time of the month)
@Lurkerina
Sweet :D I’ll keep that bra store in mind.
Hah, avocados. We decided when we moved here that we really, really like the idea of using avocado instead of butter on wholewheat or rye toast. So we’ve planted avocado trees. You absolutely cannot plant just one or one variety because they have extremely peculiar flowering and pollinating arrangements. We had three but one died – fortunately the remaining two can cross-pollinate each other.
So in a year or two’s time, avocado heaven here.
As for mushrooms. Two solutions. First is to treat them as vegetarian steak. The suggestion to make a mushroom burger out of them is great. Second requires some cooking patience and a freezer. You start with half a kilo or more (it takes very little longer to do a larger quantity) and mince finely or put them through a food processor.
Then. Then you melt some butter in a large frying pan and dump the whole mushroom mess in it. Unfortunately, you can’t walk away and let it cook.
Then. You have to keep stirring to expose the moisture collecting at the bottom of the mixture so that it can evaporate more quickly. After 20 minutes or so of this, the mixture should be more or less dry but not burnt.
It’s called duxelles when you do it the French way with a bit of garlic and stuff in it, but I’m not fond of including the garlic if you’re going to keep it for ages and ages as I do. Parcel out half or quarter cup or coupla tablespoon quantities into small freezer bags. (I press them very flat and thin so they finish up like fruit leather. Makes it really easy to break up when you get around to using it.) Seal. Freeze.
Great for adding into a risotto or casserole or pasta sauce. Sometimes we just chop up an onion, braise it in butter, stir in the duxelles, call it pasta sauce. For meat eaters, it really enriches the flavour of casseroles and gravies/ sauces.
Should have said about the duxelles.
This is extra good for vegetarians and vegans.
1. Because it’s very good protein.
2. Some people hate the mouth feel of whole or chopped mushrooms and this lets you have the benefits of the flavour and the nutrition without all those gurning facial expressions that go with hating mushrooms.
I am one of those people who can’t stand the mouth feel of mushrooms, but love the taste — so thanks for the idea! Any particular kind of mushrooms that are best?
mildlymagnificent:
I may actually have to try that at some point. This being my first apartment, I’ve been wanting to learn cooking, and never have been a huge fan of mushrooms, for the texture. But, if you say it’s good, I’ll give it a shot.
Welcome Back Amnesia! Sorry to hear about the car and the job.
@Amnesia hi
@Marie, good news on the doctor front, I have my fingers crossed for you, for your eye appointment
@question re protein, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_%28nutrient%29 and http://bit.ly/1bQgYaY
Re dietary intakes of amino acids, this is relatively long-run, so you don’t have to completely balance even relatively macronutrients every day. So, for example, if you eat legumes one day and rice a couple of days later, you’ll be fine. If you look at people who get sick from their diets (and not from an underlying disease state that may lead to poor nutrition intake), they’re people who have had really bad diets for years.
Mushrooms and avocado = YUM! I love tomatoes too, but my reflux has gotten worse with age so I’m not too sure about eating them (they can trigger people with reflux). That said, mine seems to be mechanical rather than food-content related, so for example if I do exercise after drinking or eating, it will come up. If I lean over the bench to eat (e.g. juicy orange), it will come up. If I eat too much in one meal, it will come up. If I don’t drink any liquid with a meal, it will come up. I think my lower esophageal sphincter isn’t one-way like it’s supposed to be. :)
@Kitteh, a manboobz ravelry group sounds like an excellent idea.
And just got pointed to this, apropos of the conversation about bras: http://www.clothescallingcard.com/
Hi Lurkerina, good to see you! ::waves::
So, a Ravelry group – should we call it the Crafty SPINSTERS? ;)
Ooh, I like Crafty SPINSTERS.
If I think of anything different/better I’ll say so. (Can’t think straight at the moment, my left ear is driving me up the wall. Doctor should fix it tomorrow she says confidently.)
Finished my novel. Now I just have to think of a title that doesn’t include the word “witch.”
Best for us is whatever happens to be cheap at the markets. Some recipes give quite elaborate lists of particular mushrooms. My feeling is that they’re trying to ensure you don’t end up with something boring. We ensure we have at least two types, as many as possible large and fully opened for richest flavour. (Sometimes these are cheap because a lot of people won’t use them for salads or stir fries so they’re hard to sell. Sometimes they’re dear because a popular cooking show has promoted them and they’re selling like hotcakes and they’re running out of them.)
One good idea is to get a small pack of dried mushrooms, usually porcini, and soak them in hot water before mincing along with the others. Sounds silly seeing as the cooking process gets rid of most of the moisture, but it’s good for ensuring maximum mixing of their flavour before the cooking – especially if you’re using boring old button mushrooms you bought just because they’re cheap.
AIT, If you’re just starting out you may not have all the equipment you’d like. If you don’t have a food processor, one of these nifty things (but better if you can find one with its own cleaning brush) makes a lot of cooking soooo much easier. http://www.kitchenwaredirect.com.au/Kitchenware/Fruit-Vegetable-Tool/Progressive-Onion-Chopper
It’s absolutely terrific if you don’t have “knife skills” or good quality knives for chopping onions evenly into fine dice, and it does a fan.tas.tic. job on the softer fruits/vegetables. (Can’t be bettered for mushrooms, though it’s a horror to clean up afterwards if you lack a designed-for-the-task cleaning brush.) If you want small carrot dice, you need to cut into fairly slim slices first, same for other hard-ish items like potato, parsnip, turnip, swedes if you’re making soup or sauces with them.
Yes to the group name! And to the all caps second word.
We will organise Skype catch-ups where everyone must be ON THE BEACH.
Oooooo, reminds me of the dicing press we used at the pizza joint I worked at for a while, before it shut down. That’s actually a real smart idea. I’ll keep that in mind. Have to make sure taxes get filed before buying more kitchenwares, as well as getting a desk so I can actually do deskwork around here.
Navi would also be happy to have another perch. She seems fairly content to watch her domain from above the fridge, but more perches is more perspectives.
::snicker:: Should someone have told Mikey that ON THE BEACH just makes me think of Nevil Shute’s book and the film of post-apocalypse Melbourne?
Okay, I’ll have a look (not tonight, I think we’re gonna watch telly) at what’s needed to set up a Ravelry group. I had a quick look today and one thing they want is for groups to have a logo. Anyone want to draw a knitting/spinning/weaving/crocheting/whatever Furrinatus (a kitty?) or shall I have a poke around on the internets?