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The “Tell Her Her Soul Is Dog Sh*t” dude declares that I’m a “misogyny pimp.”

If Jason Gregory were this adorable, it would be hard to stay mad at him
If Jason Gregory were this adorable kitty, it would be hard to stay mad at him

Hey, everybody!

So you remember that post a couple of days ago, that one in which I quoted Jason Gregory’s most peculiar dating advice for angry men? You know, the one in which he suggested that men rebuff women who are interested in them with a long and rather nasty assortment of misogynistic insults? You know, like these:

Tell her that she isn’t interesting, that her soul is dog-shit and that she has nothing to offer other than boobs and booty, that she is a piece of shit and a total failure as a human being, that you don’t find her attractive and that she isn’t even good enough to be a cum-bucket.

And he went on like that for several more sentences. You can read the whole quote in my original piece, or in his original post on A Voice for Men.

Well, it turns out I totally misinterpreted Jason Gregory’s post, according to an unbiased and neutral outside observer named Jason Gregory, no relation to the original Jason Gregory, who’s written a post about it on his blog.

Hold on, I’m being told that this second Jason Gregory is in fact also the first Jason Gregory.

Anyway, according to Jason Gregory, even though Jason Gregory did explicitly tell men to “tell her … that her soul is dog-shit” he didn’t really mean to tell men to “tell her … that her soul is dog-shit.”

No, he only hypothetically meant this. He was just trying to suggest was how mean the ladies are when they turn down men.

What he was really trying to express, he now says, was that

men need to learn self-respect and to value their selves in totality—including the importance of valuing their sexuality.

Pretty weird how that came out in the original post as

Tell her that she isn’t interesting, that her soul is dog-shit and that she has nothing to offer other than boobs and booty, that she is a piece of shit and a total failure as a human being, that you don’t find her attractive and that she isn’t even good enough to be a cum-bucket.

But, he insists, his aim was really quite noble. As he explains now, he wasn’t just trying to stand up for the dignity of men — he was trying to protect women from having their inboxes filled with dick-pics.

I wrote that men should stop giving away cock like it’s worthless. Perhaps if men valued their sexuality, they’d be less inclined to inundate women with emails, messages, and pick-up lines. Perhaps if men actually valued their sexuality, the ladies at Jezebel wouldn’t be so inclined to complain about all the free-cock oppression. Perhaps if men actually valued their sexuality, men wouldn’t degrade themselves by harassing, begging, and inundating women with dick pics and pleas for their attention and affection.

Indeed, he went on to argue, it was not he who was the real misogynist, but me. J’Accuse!

This might seem a hard case to make, what with the whole “tell her … her soul is dog-shit” bit and numerous other remarks in his original post, like, for example, his description of women who actually enjoy sex:

You may be able to find a few coked-up girls who really get into it—the kind of girls who end up with sweaty hair, mascara, and cum dripping down their cheeks, but those girls usually have emotional disorders and are simply trying to bury their emotional problems in various sorts of drug induced escapes.

And who can forget his suggestion that men make their dates “pay for a juicy sirloin to replace all the jizzed-out protein” they cause to be jizzed out?

But apparently I am the true misogynist because I ran my post making fun of him during my pledge drive. Which makes me a “misogyny pimp.”

This is where the mocking of misogyny becomes misogyny. He doesn’t care about the women who bother to read his blog. Though he may have a few days in which he invites women and other commenters to share and cry about their troubles, any good pimp knows the importance of faking like he cares. Any good pimp knows how to manipulate the emotions of “his bitches.” …

[H]e doesn’t care about why men are sending dick pics and bombarding women with emails and messages through online dating services. He’s not looking for solutions to these problems. He’s not saying that men who do such things may lack self-respect because the value of male sexuality is often viewed as less-than-worthless in our culture.

Wait, what? I don’t care enough about men who harass women so I’m a misogynist?

Exploiting women is a form of misogyny … In this way, Boobz has more in common with an abusive pimp than he has with any heroic slayer of misogyny. Boobz is the misogyny that he mocks. Boobz is a misogyny-pimp.

QED, I guess. Apparently quoting misogynists, mocking misogynists, discussing misogyny, taking notice of misogyny in any way … makes one a misogynist. At least according to a guy who apparently thinks that the only women who really “get into” sex are “coked-up girls” with “emotional disorders” and “cum dripping down their cheeks.”

You’ll notice that last line in Jason’s quote links to a video; that link is from him. It’s a clip from the film Bad Santa. As Jason makes a point of mentioning several times, that’s where he got the “your soul is dog shit” line.

But if you watch the clip you’ll notice one thing about that line, in its original context in the film — it’s not surrounded by a paragraph full of vile misogynistic abuse. Nope, that stuff is all Jason Gregory.

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Brooked
Brooked
6 years ago

AMERICAN IDIOCRACY:
RETIRED GIGOLO, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, PHILOSOPHER. MASHING TOGETHER NIETZSCHE, KANT, SARTRE, PRAGMATISM, AND RUM…HOLLER, BITCHES!

This is the actual heading of Mr Gregory’s blog. HOLLER, indeed.

His “interpretation” of David’s OP is impressively wrong.

Yep, he wants men to start saying “no” to women who are interested in them, just to see how they like it. But he doesn’t want them to just say no. He wants them to be giant dicks about it.

David’s clearly saying that Gregory’s dog-shit speech is the source of the giant dickishness aspect, but Gregory pretends David is saying men are being giant dicks by merely “taking the liberty of telling a woman no” (how high toned!).

According to Manboobz, if men have enough self-respect to value their sexuality such that sometimes they may take the liberty of telling a woman no, these men are simply being “giant dicks.”

Disingenuous bullshit or massive reading comprehension fail?

katz
6 years ago

RETIRED GIGOLO, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, PHILOSOPHER.

Cracks me up that they’re in that order. Important things first, amirite?

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
6 years ago

I found this Jason Gregory blog: http://www.whoisjasongregory.com/my-christian-blog-page.html I don’t think it’s the same guy, but it makes as much sense.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Wow. That Jason Gregory is a real asshole. One, he’s back-pedaling. His original post on AVFM was not about men valuing their sexuality. It was about how women whine when they get harrassed on dating sites and when they get dick-pics; and that men sending these things make women feel “entitled.” And that getting harrassed and dick-pics is “female privilege.” He actually says:

So, before you Jez-ladies start complaining about all the free-cock-oppression, assess your own entitlements and privileges. Before you condemn men as being “hostile” about rejection, perhaps you should consider how well most men actually do handle rejection, for hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Free cock is not your oppression. It is your privilege. Get a clue.

And of course, he pulls out the whole “hell hath no fury” cliche.

Second, he totally misrepresents David’s previous article.

According to Manboobz, if men have enough self-respect to value their sexuality such that sometimes they may take the liberty of telling a woman no, these men are simply being “giant dicks.”

Telling a woman “no” is misogyny. Reminding a woman that no means no—that’s pure hatred of women because women should be entitled to all the free-cock they want from a man, even if the man isn’t interested in giving it to her. (Sounds like boobz may be a rape apologist?)

No, telling women their soul is dogshit is being a giant dick. And I have no idea where he gets anyone here saying men aren’t allowed to say no to sex.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Ninja’d by Brooked 🙂

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
6 years ago

What is up with this “small business” descriptor. We had that…Michael troll on here the other week who mentioned they had their own business and lived ON THE BEACH. (see http://manboobz.com/2013/11/18/dalrock-on-why-men-should-avoid-women-whove-wasted-a-lot-of-courtship-and-used-up-their-most-attractivefertile-years/comment-page-7/#comment-402586 )

Are the troll guy and Jason Gregory the same dude? Because this bit from his blog sure sounds like Michael troll’s focus on women having meaningless lives:

Tell her that her vapid life of shoes and pop-culture and materialism are soulless pursuits of dog-shit.

And this bit shows his racism:

Tell her that she is just a white girl with bird lips

Did I miss the unveiling in the previous thread?

historophilia
6 years ago

If we’re assessing how men and women take rejection (in a totally heteronormative sense) then my general observations seem to be that women ask “What is wrong with me?” and men will as “What is wrong with her?”.

Women assume that rejections happens because it is some flaw in us, men assume rejection happens because their object of their desires can’t recognise a good thing when she sees it/she is a hypermagous b*tch!/women only date arseholes/*insert cliches here*

The difference is that men are taught that they are entitled women’s, time, attention and bodies and have seen a million Hollywood films where the unconventionally attractive, nerdy guy gets the superhot girl.

Women are taught that attention and validation from men is the ultimate goal and that everything we do/are should be about appealing to them and appeasing them. We never see the unconventionally attractive nerdy girl getting the superhot guy. We are never told that no matter what we look like we deserve to be loved by a man. We only ever see the superhot girl get the guy, so if we don’t get the guy it means we have fallen short of this ideal and that this is a failing in us.

vaiyt
6 years ago

“The difference is that men are taught that they are entitled women’s, time, attention and bodies and have seen a million Hollywood films where the unconventionally attractive, nerdy guy gets the superhot girl.”

Not just them. “Getting the girl” is like a reward for protagonists. Movies make it seem like winning the affections of a woman is just an inevitable consequence of doing something else. And it happens SO FUCKING OFTEN that people believe it, believe they’re entitled to women if they have any kind of merit.

Only movie I can remember that did’t do it was Disney’s Hunchback of Notre-Dame. And that was because the lead guy was hideously ugly, and Disney hates ugly people.

kittehserf
6 years ago

And even when we consciously know that this is such a toxic double standard, know it intellectually, it’s easy to find how internalised that self-doubt – even self-disdain – is. We can get evidence of being loved even though (gasp!) we aren’t the superhot woman (sorry, girl) and yet have a hard time overcoming that lousy, niggling, under-the-surface sense of I am ugly, I am not worthy, I am not likeable, how could he possibly like or love me?

Yes, I am speaking from experience.

marinaliteyears
marinaliteyears
6 years ago

ugh. Once again, the MRA dissapoint, evenw hen I thought I ewas beyond that.

Taking a moment to examine it from their self-centered and entirely lacking in empathy viewpoint, I can almost, Aaaaaalmost understand their ideas,(in this case.) but only barely, and only if I squint funny and stop thinking too hard.

Namely, Rejection sucks, and because woman get more (unsolicited) attention they tend to reject men more often. Then on another point, this guy sees how much attention woman get, and becomes jealous. “arn’t I as valuable as some of these woman? why do they get all the attention? If woman sent me random pics of their junk I would be happy!” Heck! I even give him points for consistency, in that he seems to apply the same old slut shaming ideas to men as well as woman. Props for that Basic bit of logical consistency im not used to seeing in the typical backwards MRA style.

Of course, thats as deep as the rabbit hole goes, and It ignores the plainly apparent, such as how woman do not *ASK* for boatloads of attention/dickpics, that the woman getting the attention HAS to reject the majority of people by sheer value of of the sheer number. (assuming a perfectly ‘standard relationship here.) and that even should she enjoy random nude pictures, Its still kind of creepy to get them without *ANY* kind of contact.. and thats assuming she *LIKES* them. if she doesn’t, then thats like assuming all men want random nude pictures. (And no, They dont, for any of you MRA or otherwise who think they do. What you appreciate, doesn’t translate to other men by default just because its a stereotype.)
Even worse, Woman have to deal with the more abusive people far more often. people who think that being ‘hurt’ for ‘doing all the perusing’ gives them a right to be an asshole to the woman in question. I Dunno, Maybe this is just me venting, but I get the feeling this guy wouldn’t like the attention so much if he were in a woman’s position. (free Unsolicited attention is worth its price, I suppose?)

leatapp
leatapp
6 years ago

Oh, that is hilarious. Yeah David, he knows you are but what is he? (Other than extremely vile and particularly dim)

Meanwhile, I have “Swimming the Seas of Pene” to the tune of Tears for Fears, “Seeds of Love” stuck in my head. *snortle*

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

RETIRED GIGOLO, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, PHILOSOPHER. MASHING TOGETHER NIETZSCHE, KANT, SARTRE, PRAGMATISM, AND RUM…HOLLER, BITCHES!

“Retired gigolo”? Oh, BROTHER. >snort< How fucking desperate were his "clients"?

And this confirms every ill opinion I've ever had of putzes who majored in philosophy.

As for the part about rum: That figures. And now it's put me right off rum. Thanks a lot, Jason, you soul-of-dogshit!

eli
eli
6 years ago

@shayla
I know you said no details, but I want to let you know it’s not really directed at you as a poster, but at the words you wrote in a totally innocuous and factually true comment. I regretted posting that comment when I woke up this morning.

shayla
shayla
6 years ago

I Dunno, Maybe this is just me venting, but I get the feeling this guy wouldn’t like the attention so much if he were in a woman’s position. (free Unsolicited attention is worth its price, I suppose?)

I don’t think you’re wrong, men like this tend to react awfully when a man hits on them. Of course homophobia is in the mix there, but deep down they understand too how being hit on by a man can be intimidating — but they choose not to empathize. Even if it were a woman, “attention” with a complete lack of respect for your humanity is something very few people would actually enjoy. People don’t send strangers dickpics because they think the other party will be happy about it, it’s to shock and dominate and everyone involved knows it.

shayla
shayla
6 years ago

@eli, Please don’t worry about it! 🙂 If they were capable of bothering me I wouldn’t post here. I’m actually a bit proud, if they don’t like one of my comments I must be on the right track.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

So off topic, but remember my roommate’s douchey abusive boyfriend? She broke up with him, because he was cussing her out(it was like a daily thing). He’s harassing her with verbally abusive texts and calls now…

Uh oh. Looks like she may have to change her number and email address. Dropping him was the right decision. Keeping him at bay is gonna be the hard part.

Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

If he might be serious about showing up, alert campus security. As for the calls and texts, ignore them, completely. Even narcissists give up eventually (took a year but he did finally get the message)

grumpycatisagirl
6 years ago

So sorry you and you roommate have to deal with that, auggz. Do stay safe.

barrakuduh
barrakuduh
6 years ago

The fact that he really feels he’s in the position to accuse anyone else of being misogynistic (while using a freaking pimps-and-ho’s analogy) is fucking mind-boggling.

So that long-ass paragraph of nonstop verbal abuse was supposed to represent how women reject men? Or how ANYONE rejects ANYONE? Is that really what a “no” amounts to in this guy’s eyes? And he wants to talk about ENTITLEMENT? Dear god, I just. I can’t.

Molly Moon
Molly Moon
6 years ago

And this confirms every ill opinion I’ve ever had of putzes who majored in philosophy.

You’re talking specifically putzes, right? Because I half resemble that remark. 😛

Although I’ll probably flunk out once I start upper division because I don’t understand how anyone takes the categorical imperative seriously.

SredniVashtar
SredniVashtar
6 years ago

Bahahaha. I find it ridiculous how he keeps solemnly referring to you as ‘Boobz’, as if he’s writing a rejoinder to an academic paper authored by ‘Boobz, M’. What a self-important idiotic wanker.

barrakuduh
barrakuduh
6 years ago

I LOVE how an MRA’s solution to the problem of men sending too many dick pics isn’t, “Hey men, we should stop sending dick pics.” It’s, “…God, women are awful, aren’t they?”

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

He doesn’t care about the women who bother to read his blog.

I love how they keep saying this. They just can’t fathom the notion that any man might actually like women, or care about them.

vaiyt
6 years ago

@barrakuduh

“Women are awful” is the MRA response to EVERYTHING.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Wait, is Jason Gregory the guy who complained about the “violence against” Google search?

@moldybrehd,

I’m sort of picturing it like a field of wheat fluttering in the breeze, only pinker.

No love for the brown penises?

@Cassandra,

But how does Tom plan to make money for himself off of that?

Maybe he’ll make a documentary about whether hot Japanese scientists are funny.

@Argenti,

ome BS from my FB feed earlier today was claiming that liberals aren’t “pro-woman” (quotes in original) because of how we treat conservative women.

I mean, there’s a lot of misogyny on the left and I’ve definitely seen it directed at conservative women, but when that criticism comes from the right it’s meant as more of a gotcha than an attempt to fix the problem. And I’ve seen people on the right claim that disagreeing with conservative/pro-life women means we’re bad feminists or something, so yeah.

Nitram
Nitram
6 years ago

That’s so weird. I’ve never tried cocaine and I’ve never like cum anywhere near my face. Just a personal preference, I do like giving blow jobs, I’m actually pretty good at it, so I’ve been told, anyway I digress… I AM really into sex, at times. At times I’m not. It’s almost like I’m an individual with a myriad of likes and dislikes that are subject to change depending on mood, health, partner, etc. it really does bother me when they’re getting it ALL WRONG about women, but sermonize like they’re experts. I don’t know ANYONE who fits these descriptions they throw around except in stupid movies or porns. I just want to shake them and say THAT’S NOT TRUE! NOT EVEN REMOTELY! LISTEN TO ME! IM AN ACTUAL WOMAN AND I KNOW WHAT I LIKE AND WHY I LIKE IT! SO DO OTHER WOMEN! LISTEN TO ACTUAL WOMEN!!!

serrana
serrana
6 years ago

That’s tentatively good news auggziliary. I just hope the ex calms the fuck down.

I once broke up with a guy I was long distance with. He lived in my hometown and I was away at school. So, we went out to eat and I broke up with him – I thought he had to have seen it coming because we had been doing nothing but fight for months – and the next day he called me up and said, “So. Did you make a decision?” I asked him “about what?” and he said, “about our relationship.” I had to break up with him all over again. I moved to a new apartment as soon as I got back to school and he spent years trying to get my address from my parents, until they moved too.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

You’re talking specifically putzes, right? Because I half resemble that remark.

Yup, putzes only. Usually distinguishable by wardrobe affectations like black turtlenecks and trilbies, and by their habits of cultivating neckbeards, and horn-rims which may or may not be for vision correction. And their douchey, dismissive attitude toward anyone who doesn’t share their pet POV (which usually comes around to Ayn Rand, sooner or later).

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
6 years ago

“The difference is that men are taught that they are entitled women’s, time, attention and bodies and have seen a million Hollywood films where the unconventionally attractive, nerdy guy gets the superhot girl.”

Not just them. “Getting the girl” is like a reward for protagonists. Movies make it seem like winning the affections of a woman is just an inevitable consequence of doing something else. And it happens SO FUCKING OFTEN that people believe it, believe they’re entitled to women if they have any kind of merit.

The one that really pisses me off is that in a number of movies, the “ugly female” is not actually “ugly”, she just needs to stop tying her hair up/pluck her eyebrows/wear nicer clothing. Think Sandra Bullock in Miss Congenality. Apparently this trope is not used any more: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeautifulAllAlong

buttboy69
buttboy69
6 years ago

I think Gregory’s post has a kernel of truth. I mean, he’s AVfM, so there’s a lot of ridiculous shouting and over-the-top hysteria, but I do think that at least some of the spammy noise women get in their inboxes are essentially a male defense mechanism.

It’s something I’ve thought about before. I mean, to be rejected or ignored after making yourself vulnerable- putting something of yourself into a well-crafted message- that’s personal, and that hurts. But getting rejected after a crude come-on is simply to be expected, right? It’s not about you personally.

It’s all interesting stuff. Some psychologist should do research on OKCupid dynamics.

dlouwe
dlouwe
6 years ago

I wrote that men should stop giving away cock like it’s worthless.

Even when directed at men, the sex-as-a-transaction model is still super gross.

Perhaps if men actually valued their sexuality, the ladies at Jezebel wouldn’t be so inclined to complain about all the free-cock oppression.

Notice how in this sentence the actual problem being identified is that the harassment of women by men makes women more likely to complain about it.

dlouwe
dlouwe
6 years ago

So men like being rejected? Even if the rejection is even more upsetting and degrading? Just because it hurts less than acting like a normal person? That doesn’t make any sense, then no man would be sending dick picks in the first place.

Also I wonder how that accounts for okc_ebooks, which shows that it doesn’t matter to a significant portion of these men if the woman is literally responding with nonsense; they will still do everything they can to interpret it as something favourable. The content of the reply is a secondary concern.

buttboy69
buttboy69
6 years ago

So men like being rejected? Even if the rejection is even more upsetting and degrading? Just because it hurts less than acting like a normal person? That doesn’t make any sense, then no man would be sending dick picks in the first place.

No, all I’m saying is that most men will get consistently rejected no matter what, and it hurts less if it following a spammy and/or crude and/or copy-pasted come-on, because it doesn’t feel like a personal rejection.

I think it’s pretty basic psychology, but of course, I’m just an eeeevil MRA.

HeatherN
6 years ago

Well, Jason Gregory basically stands as proof that chivalry is born of patriarchy.

Trying to “protect women” from getting loads of dick picks by saying a lot of horrible shit about women.

katz
6 years ago

Do most men also intentionally flub all their job interviews? Seems like they must have significant trouble just existing in the world if their fear of rejection is that crippling and their response that counterproductive.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
6 years ago

all I’m saying is that most men will get consistently rejected no matter what, and it hurts less if it following a spammy and/or crude and/or copy-pasted come-on, because it doesn’t feel like a personal rejection.

Nah, pretty basic psychology = setting oneself up for rejection delivers rejection. It’s much less effort all around if the guy simply doesn’t contact the woman in the first place: she doesn’t get harrassed and the guy never gets rejected. Yay, no more unsolicited dick pics.

“most men will get consistently rejected no matter what” = citation needed.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

Hey, katz! I took your Feminist Borgcritter prompt on Shadowthon and wrote Esprit de Corps. Dead Zone Corps #000111 are a Borg unit in charge of exploring and investigating areas with only sporadic wireless access. Cut off from the Hive-Mother’s constant protocol signals, the unthinkable happens: one of them becomes individual. What to do? And how to identify something that can’t be understood?

This story is up for sponsorship at $30. It was also SO MUCH FUN TO WRITE.

RE: Ally

On that note: Love Hina is really, really not worth watching.

Someone tried to get us into that in high school. I didn’t get it then either.

buttboy69
buttboy69
6 years ago

Wait, why would he be doing that in the first place? Wouldn’t that make him just avoid women(like many men with anxiety issues do?)
You aren’t making any sense.

Who’s talking about anxiety issues? I think it’s perfectly normal to want to avoid feeling personally rejected on a daily basis.

Do most men also intentionally flub all their job interviews? Seems like they must have significant trouble just existing in the world if their fear of rejection is that crippling and their response that counterproductive.

It’s not like that at all. Intentionally flubbing your job interview ensures you won’t get the job.

But with OKCupid, it’s not so counterproductive. Some women will sometimes respond to a crap message if they like your photos or your profile or whatever. The message is but one part of the package, so to speak, and not really even the most important one.

So if you send out a bunch of impersonal messages and get a response, great, but you’re not emotionally invested in it, so it’s not a big deal if you don’t.

leatapp
leatapp
6 years ago

“Most men will get consistently rejected no matter what”

Citation badly needed.

buttboy69
buttboy69
6 years ago

“most men will get consistently rejected no matter what” = citation needed.

Is this controversial? Keep in mind I’m specifically talking about online dating here.

leatapp
leatapp
6 years ago

buttboy,
Sexually harassing women is not a strategy. It’s no different from an old fashion flasher in the park. It’s men getting off on disrespecting women’s boundaries.

leatapp
leatapp
6 years ago

You’re pulling things out of your ass again, buttboy.

*yawn*

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
6 years ago

I haven’t done online dating, as this wasn’t much of a thing (at least in NZ) when I was last looking for dates, so this may be a dumb question, but:

Do the women on these dating sites sit around waiting for guys to contact them, or do they contact the guys too? In BB’s comments, the only people granted agency are the males – I find that weird.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: saintnick86

Of course he doesn’t consider the context of the line used – he probably also thought Rorschach in Watchmen was meant to be admired than repulsed and pitied.

Much to my shame, I admit that I really enjoy Rorschach. But that’s because anyone that driven and stubborn gets my attention, even if I never, ever want to have a beer with them or talk to them. (And yes, I get that the only reason Rorschach was that driven was because that dude had serious issues. But hey, so do I.)

RE: auggziliary

So far his calls have been him sobbing uncontrollably,

My rapist was the same way. Not gonna lie, gave me quite the schadenfreude, even if it required a fair amount of system finagling to keep him from using us to get over his own damn break-up. I was like, “Yes, CRY, motherfucker! CRY! YOUR TEARS TASTE LIKE CANDY!”

RE: buttboy69

I do think that at least some of the spammy noise women get in their inboxes are essentially a male defense mechanism.

Dude. It ain’t MY defense mechanism. Don’t generalize. Somehow, I keep photos of my dick off the Internet.

I mean, to be rejected or ignored after making yourself vulnerable- putting something of yourself into a well-crafted message- that’s personal, and that hurts.

No, it’s NOT personal. I get rejected. I live. Also, if this were true, why aren’t women sending more anonymous snatch-pics to men?

But getting rejected after a crude come-on is simply to be expected, right? It’s not about you personally.

If that’s the case, why be polite about anything? Just be a douche ALL THE TIME to protect yourself from rejection.

So if you send out a bunch of impersonal messages and get a response, great, but you’re not emotionally invested in it, so it’s not a big deal if you don’t.

What a lovely way to live. If you’re not emotionally invested in anything, why on earth should I be interested in dating you?

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: Kiwi Girl

Do the women on these dating sites sit around waiting for guys to contact them, or do they contact the guys too? In BB’s comments, the only people granted agency are the males – I find that weird.

Depends. The two friends I know who got together via OKC, one of them, the guy messaged the girl about her awesome Kaylee cosplay, complimenting her on how well she’d put the costume together. (They’re engaged now!)

The other was a married poly couple seeking another woman. So I don’t know who exactly messaged who, but I think it was the woman who messaged the couple. (They have all broken up/divorced now.)

Dudley
Dudley
6 years ago

Mysoginists, like racists, are always hilariously incoherent in defending themselves, and never more so than when pulling out the “you’re the real (mysoginist, racist)!” trick. No surprise that Jason Gregory is no different.

Kiwi girl
Kiwi girl
6 years ago

@LBT, thanks. And great news on the couple’s engagement.

katz
6 years ago

most men will get consistently rejected no matter what

Some women will sometimes respond to a crap message if they like your photos or your profile or whatever. The message is but one part of the package, so to speak, and not really even the most important one.

Guys get rejected no matter what, but they also get responses…no matter what. Okay then.

Diana Adams
Diana Adams
6 years ago

How can you compare rejection with sexual harassment that sometimes escalates into sexual assault is beyond me.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

I think it’s pretty basic psychology, but of course, I’m just an eeeevil MRA.

No, you’re an ASSHAT, is what you are. Telling a woman who has responded politely that her soul is dogshit isn’t “pretty basic psychology”, it’s straight-up MISOGYNY.

But of course, leave it to an MRA to get that all mixed up.