Men’s Rightsers honor Martin Luther King by talking about how women totally suck at being “warriors of peace.”

Mugshots of Freedom Riders. Click on image for more info, and more pictures.

Mugshots of Freedom Riders arrested for protesting segregation. The Freedom Riders were often attacked by white mobs, with the complicity of the police. Click on image for more info, and more pictures.

On Monday, Martin Luther King Day here in the United States, this was posted in the Men’s Rights subreddit, where, as you can see, it was quite popular with the assembled Men’s Rightsers:

(quote from Warren Farrell) "Men are likely to be not only the warriors of war but also the warriors of peace. Almost all those who risk their lives, are put in jail, or are killed for peace are men." Happy MLK Day!!

How wrong  is this? Let me count the ways.

1) It’s wrong because Men’s Rights “Activists” aren’t “warriors for peace,” or justice, or even for their own backwards notions of men’s rights. MRAs, like a lot of men insecure about their own worth, love to claim credit for the accomplishments of great men in the past (without accepting any responsibility for the terrible deeds of the terrible men who lived before them).

But even in terms of claiming credit where no credit is due this is especially ridiculous. Aside from a tiny handful of “fathers rights activists,” who’ve bizarrely chosen to try to advance their cause by vandalizing paintings and/or dressing up in superhero costumes and climbing up buildings, and one troubled man who killed himself in hopes that his death would spur other MRAs to acts of terrorism directed at courthouses and police stations, MRAs don’t risk anything with their “activism,” insofar as they engage in anything that can be called activism at all.

There’s nothing heroic, or risky, about posting anonymous rants online about how women are all a bunch of hypergamous bitches, or sending some vague threat to the feminist villain of the day.

Indeed, MRAs face so little risk that some are forced to invent stories of persecution — like John Hembling’s tall tale of being confronted by a mob of boxcutter-wielding feminists, thoroughly discredited by The Daily Beast — in order to cast themselves in the role of the persecuted victim-turned-hero.

2) It’s wrong because the person posting this message, and attempting to suggest some sort of link between the civil rights movement of Martin Luther King and the Men’s Rights movement today, is someone who also posts in the White Rights subreddit, a haven for the same sort of hateful white supremacists who hurled racial epithets — not to mention actual rocks and bottles — at King when he was alive.

When one Redditor pointed this out, and noted (correctly) that numerous white nationalists post in the Men’s Rights subreddit, they were quickly downvoted for their troubles.

The original poster explained that he only posted in White Rights about “real cases of white discrimination.”

Another poster offered an example of what he saw as one such case of “real” anti-white discrimination:
MrArtless 3 points 4 hours ago (5|2)  How about after George Zimmerman, many Black people physically assaulted White people and cited the verdict as their reasoning? Those Caucasians were discriminated against because of their skin color.
Yeah, that was totally a real thing.

3) It’s wrong because it’s wrong. As in, factually incorrect. Warren Farrell is talking out of his ass, again. Here’s a slightly longer version of his quote, which you can find on his web page. (It’s originally from The Myth of Male Power.)

Men are likely to be not only the warriors of war but also the warriors of peace. Almost all those who risk their lives, are put in jail, or are killed for peace are men. While some of the peace warriors—Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Dag Hammarskjold—are remembered, most are forgotten. Remember Norm Morrison?

Well, no, Warren, I don’t remember Norm Morrison. But I think you’re forgetting a few people too. Like half of the human race.

Women have been involved in peace and social justice movements as long as women have been active in the public sphere. Ever hear of Women Strike for Peace? Code Pink? At every large demonstration I’ve been at that has involved civil disobedience, I’ve seen both men and women arrested, with some of the women old enough to be grandmothers or great-grandmothers. The idea that women don’t put themselves on the line for peace or social justice is patently false.

This is really kind of  basic stuff. But with MRAs, alas, you always need to go back to the basics.

But the post in the Men’s Rights subreddit was all about co-opting the civil rights movement, so today I thought I would remind anyone who might have forgotten — or who never knew — that it wasn’t just men who put themselves at risk in the struggle for civil rights.

You can click on the pictures for more information.

Protesters at a lunch counter sit-in at Woolworths in Little Rock, Arkansas, 1963, under assault from a white mob. The protesters were beaten, kicked, and burned with cigarettes. The assault lasted three hours, while police stood by.

Protesters at a lunch counter sit-in at Woolworths in Jackson, Mississippi, 1963, under assault from a white mob. The protesters were beaten, kicked, and burned with cigarettes. The assault lasted three hours, while police stood by.

Freedom Riders, after their bus was attacked and set aflame by a white supremacist mob near Anniston, Alabama, 1961

Freedom Riders, after their bus was attacked and set aflame by a white supremacist mob near Anniston, Alabama, 1961

Student civil rights protesters blasted with water hose by authorities, Birmingham, Alabama, 1963

Student civil rights protesters blasted with water hose by authorities, Birmingham, Alabama, 1963

Fire Hose 60s Civil Rights

Birmingham, 1963

Elizabeth Eckford, who volunteered to be one of the first black students to enter the formerly all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, on the first day of school in 1957

Elizabeth Eckford, who volunteered to be one of the first black students to enter the formerly all-white Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, on the first day of school in 1957

Student arrested for trying to read a book in a "white only" library in Albany, Georgia, 1963.

Student arrested for trying to read a book in a “white only” library in Albany, Georgia, 1963.

Police arrest NAACP member Ruth Tinsley for protesting outside a Richmond, Virginia, department store, 1960

Police arrest NAACP member Ruth Tinsley for protesting outside a Richmond, Virginia, department store, 1960

Rosa Parks, being fingerprinted after refusing to give up her bus seat to a white man, Montgomery, Alabama, 1955. I assume even Warrenn Farrell has heard of her.

Rosa Parks, being fingerprinted after refusing to give up her bus seat to a white man, Montgomery, Alabama, 1955. I hope that Warren Farrell has at the very least heard of her.

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Posted on January 22, 2014, in all about the menz, are these guys 12 years old?, citation needed, entitled babies, facepalm, hundreds of upvotes, irony alert, literal nazis, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, narcissism, oppressed white men, playing the victim, racism, reddit, warren farrell and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 224 Comments.

  1. Paglia’s attitude towards masculinity is downright fetishistic. Which is fine, people are allowed to have fetishes, but basing your academic career on pretending that your fetishes are some sort of universal truth is a bit sketchy.

  2. Also, I made no judgements regarding the motivations of white racists.

    Yeah, who needs context?

    I simply pointed out that the male activists were significantly at more risk than the female activists.

    Your only evidence for which was “somebody said”. And evidence has been offered to the contrary.

    And even if it’s true that men are more likely to die in activism, so what? The thesis of the OP is that women aren’t even out there marching, which even your paraphrased comment about “using” women in civil rights marches seems to contradict. So what, exactly, are you trying to prove? Do you even have a point?

  3. The idea seems to be that the cops are more likely to try to hurt male protesters (not necessarily true), which is the fault of female protesters/feminists/women in general because…it just is, OK? You’re all evil misandrists!

  4. It may not be the fault of the female protesters, but it’s certainly their duty to attempt to get hurt more.

  5. Paglia, Christ. I guess it’s something that he didn’t bring up Dworkin, but Paglia? That woman gives me a headache.

  6. Her writing always gives me that TMI feeling. Like, um, OK, thanks for sharing your sexual fantasies with the class, but maybe you should have asked if that would be alright with them first?

  7. Just seeing stuff about Paglia quoted in the papers (which is mercifully rare here) makes me queasy.

  8. Paglia is Queen of Assfax.

    And the only one keeping a gender scorecard is Sam.

  9. Feminist Camille Paglia stated that there is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.

    Camille Paglia is not a feminist. She’s a “dissident feminist,” which, as her work reveals, is really just a code word for “pro-patriarchy feminist.”

    Men tend to exist in extremes and the bad things done by evil men have always been condemned.

    This is a misleading description. Society has granted men agency, but that doesn’t mean they have often existed in “extremes.”

    It is the gender ideologues born of modern feminism that has created a gender score card.

    Translation: An analysis of how gender relations oppress women? Nah, you’re just a gender ideologue.

    Pointing out the enormous positives men have contributed to civilization is the natural response to a popular movement that has for decades demonized men and masculinity.

    More like “pointing out the good things that some men have done for civilization is a common silencing tactic used against a movement that has for decades criticized patriarchal norms that oppress women.”

  10. Also, really? All men who do evil things are condemned for their actions? You’re going to have to try to back up that sweeping generalization, you know.

  11. AllyS: Seems like these guys can’t track their own “logic.

    “Women in general are terrible because of this in particular.”
    “By that logic, men in general would be terrible because of that in particular.”
    “WHY DO YOU BLAME ALL MEN!?!”
    *facepalm*

  12. That “gender scorecard” nonsense keeps making me think of yellow and red cards in soccer. Now if only misogynists and dirtbags in general could be red-carded…

  13. Plus, “there are more men who are serial killers so men are better at everything” really isn’t that great of an argument to be making.

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