Pretty Cats Make Hats
As requested, an open thread. I’ll try to get these up more often in the future. This one will be overseen by Morrissey with a cat on his head.
No trolls, no arguments.
Posted on January 14, 2014, in off topic, open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 601 Comments.
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Surely Flyer would be OK even if you’re not literally a pilot. After all, not everyone in the Navy is literally on a ship.
@Deoridhe: On metal: The term “metal” is incredibly broad. Many people classify Led Zepplin as metal, even (I wouldn’t, but others do). As such, defining what makes a certain piece of music “metal” is… difficult. It usually comes down to the heaviness of the music, but there are a number of stylistic things that are important as well (like blast-beats, long solos, down-tuned guitars, etc.). The line between hard-rock, heavy metal, and hardcore punk is very vague, which often results in a lot of arguments in the heavy metal community over lighter stuff like Ghost BC.
Queensryche usually finds itself in the prog-metal genre for stuff like Operation: Mindcrime, though they do have a fair amount of hair-metal ballads (like Eyes of a Stranger, Another Rainy Night).
Both Tool and Disturbed are considered heavy metal, with Tool generally falling under the genre of alternative metal (though they can get labeled prog metal), and Disturbed under nu-metal for the early stuff, heavy metal for the later (though they sometimes get labeled alternative).
That guy recently had another daughter, whom he named Eva Braun.
DHS took her, too. Both father and mother have histories with DCS and children have been removed from their homes before.
So, it’s not just naming them something egregious. The guy has a history of neglect and/or abuse, too.
I randomly have today off so I’m spending the day listening to my Pandora Linkin Park channel and cleaning the floors and taking the holiday decorations down (because hey, it’s mid January and the tree is so dead and crunchy that I think if I plugged the lights in it would seriously burst into flames). Anyhoo, Best Day of My Life by American Authors comes on, and I drop the steam mop to go down vote it, cause it really doesn’t belong on my Linkin Park channel. But then, the chorus comes on and even though it mostly reminds me of all of the stupid TV commercials it’s in, it made me smile, so I let it finish playing.
But I didn’t up vote it. Really Pandora?
Speaking of archaeology and gender, I heard about this on a podcast I listen to.
http://news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/etruscan-warrior-prince-really-a-princess-131021.htm
The story is from October, but they mentioned it in their end of year wrap up. The podcast is Stuff You Missed in History class, which I would recommend to everyone who likes history. I think Holly and Tracey, who host it, would fit in wonderfully here.
Not caught up but FISHIES!!
That’ she second batch of fry, and the new eggs, this is one of the big ones from the first batch of fry and one of the adult boys (50/50 shot that that’s daddy)
Anyone who knows me, knows that I deeply admire those FBI agents who work in thee Behavioral Analysis Unit. I think the men and women who are able to handle working with such scary people on a regular basis are incredibly brave.
Anyway, I chanced across a discussion among Red Pill/PUA types. One of the posters claimed to be an FBI agent himself. I began to wonder if that was indeed true. If it is…then I’m worried that if something bad were to happen to me that law enforcement would let the guy go because he was “alpha” and I was “asking for it.” Is law enforcement still on my side?
Have you seen the parody of Born to Run that Bruce Springsteen and Jimmy Fallon did, mocking Christie’s bridge closure? It’s priceless. :D
I decided I am going to try taking ballet lessons. I was looking for dance classes last night and found a place where they do beginner ballet lessons for adults. They linked to a documentary about it too.
Has anyone else tried ballet beyond when they were a kid? I’ve got no idea what to expect, but I like the idea of spending a lot of time learning the moves before having to string them together into a routine. I am naturally unco and while I have always wanted to learn to dance, most classes I have been to immediately start teaching you a routine. I was considering hip hop classes too – if I can find one that teaches moves. I really really like the idea of being strong and coordinated.
Hey, cool, Kim! Let us know how it goes.
I’ve never done any dance lessons, not even the Goth Dancing video ones. ;)
Mnemosyne, I obviously haven’t seen the post you’re referencing, but as a general rule I would bet good money that most people who claim to be FBI agents on Reddit are talking out of their sphincters.
What, not even talking with their larynxes? :O
What cloudiah said, with the added note that I thought about going into forsensic psych, had I made it to grad school it was that or art therapy, but cops in general? Well, slutwalks are a response to how they handle rape cases.
In other things, I’ve decided to stop whining about French and learn it…I’m sorta having fun so far. Granted I think the most complex thing I can say is like j’aime un chat noir…but yeah (ok, I manage like…Elle a un chat noir et une rouge pomme, but that’s the most I’ve got [and is a right there? Or is that second person?])
It’s Latin based enough that I get the to be verb and can handle the first // second // third person singular // plural stuff…sorta…plurals are still painful.
Ally, I think your statement is great! The only thing that struck me as strange was the apology, but obviously you’re in a better position to understand why you would consider including that than I am.
auggz and Falconer:
That made me think of Frank and Gail Zappa’s children, Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva Muffin. Ahmet is common enough I suppose, but I can only imagine what Frank and Gail were thinking. It’s a shame that names like that would make it hard to be taken seriously.
Argenti:
That’s one beautiful thing about plurality in Chinese. There is none. Just change the number in front. One ox = yi tou niu. Two oxen = liang tou niu. The only problem is the measure words. Ugh.
Also, random question, the cat avatars, are those auto-generated by Gravatar?
Thank you for all of your suggestions on the Facebook message, everyone. I will definitely keep all of them in mind.
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Yesterday my youngest sister (the one who encouraged me to “look like a girl”) told me “You’re so nice” when I was trying to find some wall tacks for her and her older sister. I know I’m a sucker for sayings like that, but that’s the first time she has ever said that to me, and I could tell she was being sincere. She also recently advised me to eat slowly because it’s healthier – something I have told her repeatedly in response to my dad being abusive towards her when she eats.
I always think that they don’t really think about me much because I don’t spend much time with either one of them due to being at school so often. It’s hard for me to imagine them actually loving me as an older sibling, but I guess there are some things I’m unaware of.
I’m going to miss these two so much – once I leave and come out to everyone (including their mother) I may never see them again until they’re adults. And even then there’s a possibility they will grow up to be bigoted towards me. I seriously hate my life.
More hugs, Ally. I like to think that your sweet little sisters will hold onto their affection and love for you until it’s safe for them to express it.
Bloody hot weather, bloody railways … it took me four hours to get home from work tonight. We got turfed off the train at Westall (station in the middle of an industrial park and feckall else) and told buses would take us to Dandenong, half a dozen stations further down. No explanation of why the train wasn’t going, or anything. Get to Dandenong: oh no, there are no trains going to Pakenham. Back onto the bus – and the driver hadn’t been told he’d have to do this and didn’t know the route. So people had to navigate. Just think, me wot doesn’t drive was having to try directing a bus.
Four. Fucking. Hours.
Then I get home and the air’s full of smoke from a fire in Gippsland (ie. a good hour’s drive away).
Fuck summer and the climate-change deniers and the scumbags in governments who’ll spend millions on tennis centres but never, never on public transport, or utilities, or alternative power sources, or anything people actually need.
AIT, the cat gravatars come from this website. Once you’ve made the kitty of your choice, save it to your computer and you can upload it to Gravatar.
:)
kittehserf:
AWESOME! Thank you! I feel incredibly silly, grown man getting all giggly over a cat avatar, but damn it, it’s fun. Since Gravatar wouldn’t allow less than 4 letters, I added a few letters on. So, I’ll use this instead of AIT now.
Appropos of nothing, I ran into something unusual last night, and I’m not sure what to make of it yet.
I’m playing a free-to-play iPhone game called “Happy Street”. Silly free-to-play farmville game. But the main character is a cartoon fox, so of course I’m all over it. It also tends towards adult double-entenres in the dialog, ranging from parody to
Last night, the game introduced one of the characters as transgendered.
In a nutshell, mildly villainous robot guy (Mr. Pryce) is being investigated for unspecified suspicious behaviour in the basement (involving love potions, ropes and flower arrangements). Reporters discover that sinister behaviour is perfectly innocuous: The robot has come out as “Mrs. Pryce” after patching her software and making some body modifications (“I assure you I am female in all the places you cannot see.”) and was indulging in some stereotypically feminine behaviour. Her earlier jerky behaviour was misplaced anger at her male body.
Suspicion over, nothing wrong here! Welcome to the community Mrs. Pryce!
Wow.
Then the next mission revealed that female Mrs. Pryce was actually loaded into the same body as the male Mr. Pryce. The two remark that they could play a certain famous movie ex-hobbit, before asking you to make fancy new homes for new residents.
So… yeah. That was either remarkably and unexpectedly progressive, or it’s skating a fine line between acceptance and stereotype. Being cis myself, I’m not sure how to call it.
So I’m doing this research paper on a historical movement and how they made changes, and I was going to make women and psychology my topic. Basically how women were often treated as mentally ill for nothing, and how suffragettes were put in asylums, etc. Also maybe forced sterilization.
Does anyone know some good sources for this? They have to be primary and at least 30 years old.
Some of the manosphere would have to change their minds about older women (i.e. over 30) being ugly and not worthy of any attention if they see these women at a bodybuilding contest. By the way, they are between 50 and 59 years of age.
Amazing women they are.
aitasc – ya welcome! :) Love the new kitty and OF COURSE a grown man, or grown anyone, should be giggly over kitty avatars. It is part of Furrinati worship.
I used to post a lot on the Cheezburger network, but it’s slowly being taken over by MRAs. That makes me very sad, because I can’t ignore it. I wish I could, but it infuriates me when fat whiny NEETS/Wizards/Incels think they have the right to speak for me.
Started an internship this week. I really hope I can use this experience to get me a real job, I am so tired of being homeless, so tired of being hungry and poor, so tired of seeing my friends turn away when I need help. I know this isn’t going to solve ALL my problems and once I have a stable home and a full belly I’ll need to find another challenge, but I’ve been kicked so many times I’m honestly kind of scared that it’s going to happen again.
kittehserf:
Nevermind, I can continue using the same name! Also, I was born a slave to the Furrinati. And having adopted a cat a couple months ago, I’m definitely right where they want me. Poor girl had ants attacking her food bowl, so I set the dishes inside wider dishes with soapy water. So far, so good.
JoJo:
Best of luck with your new internship!
Congratulations on your kittification, AIT.
grumpycatisagirl:
Thank you much. I saw the avatars floating around for a while and finally decided I’mma get one. If they were mentioned in the welcome package or something, I entirely missed it. I can fail like that sometimes.
JoJo, good luck with the internship!
AIT – any chance of kitty pics? :)
The kitty avatars are in the welcome package but it’s a bit roundabout; the link goes to a page on the forum and you get to the actual site from there.
Kitteh: I totally thought of you when I saw that Fallon video the other day.
Hmm, the only primary sources I can think of off hand are Freud’s notes and letters. Idk if there’s a full collection online, but you should be able to find some if you go digging for Freudian stuff on hysteria.
Hellkell, :)
I took over the boss’s computer so I could play it right away with sound.
And idk where you are auggz, but if you happen to be near London, bedlam has a museum and the curators should be able to help you. I’ll see what I can dig up, I wish I could be of more use but I’ve read far more secondary sources.
Hmmm, idk if it would really work, as I’m not sure how edited it is, but Girl, Interrupted the book is taken (by her) from her journals while on the psych ward (and infinitely better than the movie)
If you can get your hands on them, the legal rulings regarding the treatment of the suffragettes might be of some use? Likewise lobotomy, ECT and clitoridectomy raised quite a debate and much of that should be able in medical journals if you dig enough. (Hit wiki up for the relevant doctors and stick them in a university library archive search, or just go for lobotomy, etc…I’d think you’d have better luck finding primary sources if you include their names though)
This one isn’t 30 years old yet, or at least the controversy isn’t, but how sexist the diagnosis of borderline personality disorder might be is a point of contention more recently. (And some of it really is, multiple sex partners? Cuz the acceptable number there isn’t sexist or anything!)
The other thing you might try, though it isn’t really a primary source, would be the early editions of the DSM, even DSM IV is nearly 30, and if you can find anything pre DSM III they weren’t science so much as opinion — I haven’t read them, so idk how much is psychs just typing out opinions versus opinions being pieced into a sorta secondary source, but they might have some gems (and I have DSM III some place if you want any of it, none of it is going to be a true primary source though)
I’ve been on vacation in Grand Cayman and am now trying to catch up. I will post pictures of the trip eventually but for now other bleach:
I just want to thank you, David, for keeping commenting here free. I greatly appreciate it, since I seem to have some mysterious trouble registering myself on WordPress or anywhere else.
(not that I’d have time for commenting regularly on my other favorite blog, Pharyngula)
WOOHOO! I have laundry machines that work! In my house! I’m doing laundry RIGHT NOW, and I didn’t have to drive it across town to my sister’s! By bedtime, I’ll have clean sheets and nighties! And they’re sexy front-loaders on pedestals, and everything seems to be working just fine.
neuroticbeagle, hope your holiday went well!
I’ve just forwarded those pics to my sister. She really should have bed linen like that. :D
@Unimaginative
Yea for working laundry machines!
@Kittehs
The vacation was wonderful. I could use bed linen like that too- just so I don’t accidentally go over the line. The beagle is getting tired of putting me in my place. :)
It’s terrible, the disrespect the Furrinati have to put up with.
I should have had a kitty version of that linen in the days when Katie slept in the bed. I had to ban her eventually because waking up with Cat Back was no fun at all.
PS forgot to say, yay for great holiday! :)
(TW for eating disorder, depression/self-harm, not happy things in general.) every glob of yogurt feels like they’re forcing me to swallow glue, and I know I sound like a little kid for wanting this but I wish my mother at least was watching. it’s so much more humiliating when the nurse is there watching me eat everything.
I don’t want the rest of my family here, glad lunar new year’s is arriving so they can go get drunk and leave me alone. they keep complaining that I’m not making the right amount of progress yet but whn there are genuinely days when I feel a little better they shoot me down, telling me that I’m a horrible liar and they’ll keep me here as long as they feel like it. I hate it.all
this is not the appropriate thing to put here but people will not respect that I have a diary. I’m just here to vent.
So sorry that you’re going through this, Hannasoumaki.
Hannasoumaki — I’m sorry, and it sounds like your family is being the opposite of helpful, which also sucks. As for venting here…*points to thread title* “open thread” — vent away!
Thank you and I hope everyone here is okay too. It feels weird to talk about it here but yes, it feels like they are doing this to toy with me. They’ll probably complain about this too the next day, since I need my internet time supervised.
That sounds absolutely awful Hanna :(
Just wondering, does anyone here have mental disorders besides depression? I have depression, and OCD(the crappy weird kind, not the clean kind), and some psychotic issues.
I get hallucinations and a lot of depersonalization(basically everything feels fake), and it kind of sucks. The hallucinations aren’t all the time, and they generally go with depersonalization. It’s usually things like seeing everything as 30x bigger or smaller, which technically makes no difference, but it’s annoying how it feels like the world is constantly being edited.
I also get times where my brain just won’t process shit. Like I’ll be walking along, and then instead of seeing “reality” it will swap to a bunch of different colored squiggles and reality doesn’t exist. It fades back after a minute. The same happens with music, melodies break down into meaningless noise. It’s like my short term memory reboots.
This can go the other way, like having random things seem meaningful. Like when you’re extremely bored, and you can stare at random patterns and find pictures in them? Like cloud watching, but on textured ceiling or bricks. Occasionally, it’s like those pictures “find me”, rather than me finding them. The pictures sometimes look terrifying, or like they’re trying to tell me something. Like once I was looking at some vegetable in the fridge for 10 minutes because it looked like it was covered in hieroglyphs telling me something super important.
It took me a while to realize these weren’t “normal”. I was in denial for a long time, because of how hallucinations are usually treated. Like most people seem to think they’re like seeing a purple chicken follow you, or something ridiculous.
auggziliary: I have depression coupled with anxiety that is sometimes debilitating, sometimes not. (I’m a performing musician and have no trouble doing that IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, but sometimes have trouble taking my dog for a walk in my neighborhood)
But nothing like you. Maybe your experience is more common than people being followed by purple chickens.
I just had to share this photo my mum took of my bird yesterday. Partly to show off my lovely parakeet, Flash, and partly to show off my mum’s skills.
Pretty birdy here
And in a strange coincidence, my nickname for my purple parrot is chicken.
Apologies for the triple post but someone just linked this on facebook, and I think it’s pretty awesome.
http://www.graciehagen.com/lllusions-of-the-body/
“This series was made to tackle the supposed norms of what we think our bodies are supposed to look like. Most of us realize that the media displays only the prettiest photos of people, yet we compare ourselves to those images. We never get to see those photos juxtaposed against a picture of that same person looking unflattering. That contrast would help a lot of body image issues we as a culture have.”
Such a beeeeautiful bird, is Flash!
That Illusions project is COOL.
Auggz, I’m self-diagnosed with depression and social anxiety. When I stopped eating wheat about a year ago, and my general rage, depression, anxiety, and panic attacks dried up, I was left with a kind of calm apathy, with bouts of “leave me the fuck alone”. I’m not in a tizzy so much anymore, but I don’t leave my house once I’m home from work unless I’m forced to, and I get so anxious then that I get nauseated — and this is for things I actually enjoy doing. I don’t *think* I get hallucinations, but I very often check to see if other people are perceiving what I’m perceiving, and they often aren’t.
One day, I may look into addressing my issues, but so far, I’m functioning fairly well, and now that I’m off wheat, I’m even fairly contented. (Although it fucks my brain to know how thoroughly wheat was fucking my brain.) I know from past experience that I don’t cooperate with therapy — even if I want to “get better”, I’m not willing to do the work involved.
I spent a couple of decades in new-agey self-help activities, trying to find my bliss, and from my observations, I think you’re probably more normal than you think you are. Or maybe I think more people are non-normal than we assume? Anyway, if your emotions and hallucinations start interfering with your quality of life, seek help. Otherwise, explore various coping strategies and see which ones help you live a meaningful-to-you life.
auggz, my problems are very, very mild: stress and anxiety, low level generally (I’ve had one panic attack and hope that’s it). I went to a psychologist for nearly a year – he was just the opposite of Argenti’s psych from hell – and am on low-dose antidepressants.
Your seeing patterns in things sounds like the usual way of humans seeing patterns – literally and metaphorically – ramped up high, because of the significance it assumes. It sounds like the Mary-in-toast stories, without the religious component. I have seen pictures in random patterns or shapes forever, too: a knot in wood that looked like a horse’s forehead and eyes, a grouping of black dots on blue vinyl (the walls of the dunny … lots of time to find pictures, hem hem) that looked like the cutest little cartoon puppy in a beret … all sorts of things.
Speaking of hallucinations of the purple chicken variety, the players at the Australian Open were getting really sick because of heat stress over the last week, and one player said he knew he had to stop when he started hallucinating Snoopy.
Kim, Flash is lovely, when did you get zir?
I love that Illusions of the Body project! Not just for how eye-opening it is but for the dorky expressions the models use. I’m guessing they had a hoot doing it.
I need a name for a fictional Russian town. I have no idea how to make up passable place names for other countries.
katz:
One thing you could do is grab a name out of the list on Wikipedia. Another thing I’ve found is that there’s a tendency to use -sk at the end, which I think is a posessive marker. There’s also -grad, which is either hail, or short for -gorod, city. I think I know a couple folks who speak Russian, or have friends of Russian speaking friends. I can try to ask around. Hope that helps!
Wish I could use a real city name but I’ve gone and made up a quite specific town and now I’m rather shackled to coming up with an original name for it :/ Three weeks ago I was all going “Should I find a real city? Nah, it’ll be easier just to make one up” and now I’m regretting it.
Is it possible to find names of towns that no longer exist? Deserted villages or the like? I’ve no idea if such info is available for Russia the way it is for England, f’rinst.
What about an old Baedeker? This one’s 1914, Russia.
https://archive.org/details/russiawithtehera00karl
I realize Peking is actually from a dialect of Chinese, but knowing that the vast majority of their country actually refers to it as Beijing… gah.
Instead of getting myself into a language tizzy, I’ll just post this picture on funnyjunk of Chairman Meow . The funny thing about this, the name for their honorable chairman was a homonym for their word for cat.
Kim, that picture of your parakeet is so pretty! Zie looks like a baby!
So I just learned that cannabis is a natural androgen blocker. Coolest news I’ve heard all week. Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure that getting high all the time to help feminize my body is a terrible idea (unless I have edibles only or something, but even then it’s inadvisable probably). Oh well.
@ Ally
Soy has phytoestrogens, so I dunno. Maybe make happy brownies with soy… butter? Can you put tofu in brownies? Meh. I’m fairly sure it would take absurd amounts of foods to have any effect.
I made up “Bosnograd” several years ago, and never used it. You’re welcome to it…
Katz — you have pecunium’s email? He speaks Russian, fluently I think.
Auggz — is it psych Dx list time? PTSD, bipolar, generalized anxiety disorder, uh, I think there’s another one that I didn’t get pissed about and borderline personality disorder (which is bullshit and pecunium is right, it’s because I don’t fit meds psych from hell’s little boxes of how people are supposed to be, like, poly must equal risky sex and my refusal to pick a binary gender means unstable self image and shit like that, there’s just no way she managed to twist the criteria without doing shit like that…and being stereotyped makes me cranky)
Anyways, only things I see that aren’t there, when not on acid or such, are my usual synesthesia stuff and thank you flashbacks, I want my acid flashbacks already! (Damnit, I was promised acid flashbacks!) Other than that I do the finding patterns in everything thing big time when hypomanic, but usually only once my brain is stuck on a problem or, like kitteh, staring at the bathroom floor or whatever.
I should note though that pretty much anything sound related could be mistaken for the usual synesthesia I guess (on that note, pecunium’s fire alarm is That Tone, the one that looks like icicles are trying to imbed themselves in my eyes. I’d much prefer Alice in Wonderland Syndrome [the official term for you/things seeming too big/small…done it on acid, and yeah, it's fucking weird])
As for the squiggles thing, that one took me forever to sort, and a trip to the floor while cooking (I hit the off switch first) — apparently temperature change makes me fainty, or straight up faint in the kitchen floor covered in easy mac, fun day that was. Figuring out that the world going all wtf am I seeing means SIT THE FUCK DOWN was very useful. I do not take temperature change well. But that’s straight up physical, so idk if it’s relevant to you.
Auggz:
Reading your thing about seeing things 30x bigger or smaller actually reminds me of experiencing the same thing when I was a lot younger. I’ve never been officially diagnosed with anything, but I definitely had times where proportions of things went all different directions in my head. I dismissed them as just imagination or something, mostly because I had a fear of being labeled depressed or otherwise mentally unstable. I know now I have some issues, but I have them as under control as I can. Military chaplains can be wonderful people, even to the nonreligious.
Does anyone want to share recipes?
I’m going to try to make this one, but IDK if it’s good.
-Plain greek yogurt
-strawberries(a shit ton)
-banana
-vanilla pudding mix
-milk/soy milk?
Blend up really well, and put in pie tin or something and freeze, or refridgerate.
Yeah I don’t know if this will be like the frozen yogurt thing I was going for, or like a strawberry ice brick. Has anyone else tried making something like this?
That sounds interesting and like it could be done in a calorically reasonable manner. Do you have any idea about amounts?
Augzz, that ought to freeze up to a nice Fudgsicle texture, I should think.
So sorry I haven’t read this whole thread, but to everybody who needs them and wants them lots of hugs.
I saw your post though @Auggziliary just wanted to say I have OCD and PTSD (with weird visual/auditory disturbances). If you want to talk I’m sure David won’t mind passing on my email.
My OCD isn’t the germphobe type either. I have mental obsessions and some physical compulsions, I do things in multiples of 15 amongst other stupid bloody things! The OCD gets pretty severe sometimes, think ‘The Aviator’ with the benefit of modern mental health knowledge, an obsessive fear of flying and no milk bottles! (Okay, nothing like ‘The Aviator’.)
Hope that helps. :)
Also, on the women and mental health project, have you read about Nellie Bly (Elizabeth Cochran)?
She wrote this book:
Ten Days In a Mad-House (Annotated)
Very interesting lady, she also went around the world in 72 days.
http://www.biography.com/people/nellie-bly-9216680