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Men’s Rights Redditors respond to imaginary plot to force men to pee sitting down with proposals to kill, pee on feminists

So Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers are in a tizzy over a bullshitty piece in the Daily Telegraph warning of an evil worldwide plot to force men to pee sitting down.

The evidence for the existence of such a plot is a bit on the skimpy side — the Telegraph writer leads off with a reference to a 2012  proposal from a County Council member in Sormland, Sweden that doesn’t seem to have gone anywhere legislatively but that’s been a favorite evil-feminist story on conservative websites ever since.

The very notion that some evil feminist might force them to sit while they spray has Men’s Rights Redditors in an unusually combative mood. Heck, it’s got some of the regulars thinking that it might well be time to start doing some good-old fashioned murdering. No, really.

Spacedatwork 6 points 10 hours ago (7|1)  Feminists are taking it too far now, I pee half the time with a boner and when I do pee sitting my dink dips in the water and it is nasty as fuck. This is the part where the MRA should pull off a campaign to assassinate feminist figures because talking, ranting and blogging is not enough until they take away our ability to naturally produce testosterone through medical procedures at birth.
Yep. In case you’ve been wondering, suggesting “a campaign to assassinate feminist figures” because some local council member in Sweden had a dumb idea will in fact win you upvotes on the Men’s Rights subreddit.

Strikerfm1, by contrast, seems almost moderate with his “tie feminists down and urinate on them” proposal.

strikerfm1 3 points 8 hours ago (5|2)  I so wish I could grab one of these feminists, tie her down,a pee all over her. Just to show her that I'm a fucking MAN and that I will never become the pussified, wimpy broken wrist faggot of a man they so desire. Fuck these lebsbian nazi cunts who want to destroy our manhood. Fuck them. Stand up. Be a man. Pee standing up.  Women think it's gross? it creates puddles? FUCK YOU WOMEN. I cleaned women's bathroom's for a living when I was younger, you fucking cunts leave blood on walls, shit all over walls because you won't sit on the bowl, and your pregnancy tests everywhere. Fuck you if you are gonna piss and moan about piss on the floor.
The World’s Greatest 21st Century Human Rights Movement, folks!

Thanks to the AgainstMensRights subreddit for pointing me to this horrible crap.

EDIT: The “let’s murder feminists” comment has been taken down by the subreddit mods, though the user hasn’t been banned for it; the “I want to tie a feminist down and pee on her” comment remains up, and still boasts upvotes.

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Posted on January 8, 2014, in advocacy of violence, antifeminism, are these guys 12 years old?, boner rage, homophobia, imaginary oppression, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, reddit, the c-word and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 347 Comments.

  1. LBT and anyone else who’s sick, so sorry, and hope you’re feeling better soon. I am saving this thread for home remedies. I’m going to try lion face with my mother tomorrow; she needs exercises to strengthen her face muscles and this one sounds like fun.

  2. There’s a really good Lion Face in this yoga video, at about 1:17:

  3. @cloudiah – oh yes, lion face is loads of fun! Especially if you can face someone you’re not super fond of while you’re “innocently” helping out your sore throat – not sticking your tongue out at them, oh no! :-)

    @kittehserf – that video is great! :-) Ze needs some more work on zir form there…as with most of the other poses, but good try! :-)

  4. LOL yes, I don’t think Shorty’s ever going to be a yoga master herself. She might just be a dancer, she has great form (and that TAIL omg that tail).

    I did like her way of extending chest to foot. :P

    If you like funny cat vids, there’s a whole Sho Ko channel on youtube (Shorty and Kodi, that is) – they have lots of videos, and I see their doting dad is going to post one every week this year. :)

  5. I could be wrong but with that picture of the crotch-shot in cut off jeans and the fact you keep telling us about your preferred peeing method ralmcg, are you just trolling us? lol

    cupisnique, I’m not a troll. I just want to contribute something about men peeing sitting down since it seems that men shouldn’t do it according to some MRAs. Also, about my cut-off shorts (a.k.a. Daisy Dukes) I do wear them sometimes in the summer. I feel more comfortable in them than in longer shorts.

  6. (remember those guys in Texas who died from brain parasites?)

    D: WHY WOULD YOU TELL ME THIS. AAAAAH DO NOT WANT.

    Typing in biohazard suit gloves is slow going, isn’t it.

  7. Like, maybe they can stand up, ass toward the toilet, do just a minimum of squatting and then push really hard to make the pieces of poop sort of fly out of their asses and into the toilet bowl?

    I have actually done this a couple times. The weirdest thing is, I can’t remember why. I do remember hitting the water body.

    While he’s trying to pee off the cliff, of course. Except that wind is blowing it all over his tights.

    That’s what I implied with my remark of “bravely pissing against the wind of societal change”. Dunno if many people got it. The cape is a nice addition, though.

  8. I owe some blockquotes to Kittenserf, but a monster ate them.

  9. @LBT, I told you about the brain parasites so you’d take the “clean water” bit seriously and not die. I like you non-dead (no offense to Mr Kittehserf).

  10. Augg – that is cat barding! Just had a D&D flashback.

    Also, re: the urine issue. Our older son has taken to sitting down on the kaybo every time, and leaving the seat down. This may serve him in good stead in later life, especially when he is no longer sharing a bathroom with his twelve year old brother.

  11. Augg – that is cat barding! Just had a D&D flashback.

    Eh, it’s leather. Depending on the cat’s own AC, it might boost it by one or two points (I’m a bit rusty), but it’s only AC 8 otherwise. Not … great.

  12. Futrelle- The glib, jokey “let’s assassinate feminists” quote that you apparently took entirely seriously, is no longer up at r/mr anyway.

  13. Well, under 3.5 rules, a cat has an AC of 14 due to Dex and Size. Leather barding would give it a +2 Armor bonus to AC, bringing it up to a 16. Of course, you could bump that by getting it enchanted.

  14. And I know that personally, I think it’s just dandy when people “joke” about murdering me.

  15. Oh, good, a chewtoy.

    The glib, jokey “let’s assassinate feminists” quote

    Just because you call a threat a joke doesn’t make it one, you know. You do know that, right?

    is no longer up at r/mr anyway.

    And your point is? Do you have one? Any point at all? I can wait. *twiddles thumbs*

  16. Someone doesn’t understand what “glib” means.

  17. My point, “titanblue”, is that that post clearly does not represent r/mr, if the moderators have seen fit to remove it.

  18. Or it all too perfectly represents r/mr but they realized they might catch flak for it.

  19. Right. The post from Strikerfm1 is much more accurate.

    And still fucking horrible.

  20. “Or it all too perfectly represents r/mr but they realized they might catch flak for it.”

    And maybe Paul Elam represents Manboobz- he’s just banned because Futrelle realized he might catch flak for it.

  21. Let’s analyze that theory, Kevin. Did Paul Elam once participate widely in Manboobz, only to be quietly banned shortly after other sites drew attention to his involvement? Does (or did) Manboobz frequently make comments that are in line with Paul Elam’s opinions?

  22. So that comment isn’t shitty because it was deleted for being so shitty? I see.

    And maybe Paul Elam represents Manboobz- he’s just banned because Futrelle realized he might catch flak for it.

    Dumbest comeback ever.

  23. Can’t sleep, blockquote monster will eat me.

  24. Yes, “katz”. R/mr is a hotbed of death threats and violent fantasies. Right.

  25. The r/mr mods will speedily ban people just for putting forward a feminist viewpoint, and yet people who post violent comments are allowed to continue posting in r/mr without being banned.

    It goes to show their priorities. Advocate feminism? BAN! Advocate violence? Sure, that’s fine. FREEZE PEACH!

  26. R/mr is a hotbed of death threats and violent fantasies.

    And racism — don’t forget racism!

  27. kevin 11 doesn’t realize that David Futrelle is Paul Elam.

    Or is it the other way around?

    Anyway, it’s a long con.

  28. “titianblue,” if that is your real name

  29. kevin 11 doesn’t realize that David Futrelle is Paul Elam.

    Or is it the other way around?

    They’re both cats in a suit anyway.

  30. ““titianblue,” if that is your real name”

    The point is that it’s obviously not. It’s a pseudonymous facade for that person to act all Internet Tough Guy behind. I have nothing but contempt for that sort of shit.

    Just like you, “Viscaria”.

  31. Yeah, no, “They’re going to make us pee sitting down! Kill all the feminists!” is not a joke. I don’t think kevin11 understands how humor works.

    Here’s the articles flagged under “reddit”:

    http://manboobz.com/tag/reddit/page/2/

    Some highlights:

    “Kill the b—-“:

    http://manboobz.com/2013/10/12/mens-rights-jeopardy-ill-take-kill-the-btch-for-two-dozen-upvotes-alex/

    Violent torture fantasies don’t get you banned:

    http://manboobz.com/2013/11/17/how-not-to-get-banned-from-the-mens-rights-subreddit/

  32. ““titianblue,” if that is your real name”

    The point is that it’s obviously not. It’s a pseudonymous facade for that person to act all Internet Tough Guy behind. I have nothing but contempt for that sort of shit.

    Just like you, “Viscaria”.

    The irony here made me laugh out loud.

  33. If only we were brave like Kevin here. Which one are you, again? My brother’s best friend in elementary school, or my cousin? Actually you can’t be my cousin since he’s a pretty cool guy but to be fair I haven’t seen the other dude in like 15 years…

  34. His real name is Kevin 11. That’s why he has standing to criticize people using ‘nyms.

  35. His big sister is named “Seven” of course.

  36. I hope it’s not the Kevin I knew in high school. He got to stand next to Adam Sandler in Happy Gilmore for 3 seconds. (Not that I’m a fan of AS, but it was cool to see someone I actually know in a movie.)

  37. The point is that it’s obviously not. It’s a pseudonymous facade for that person to act all Internet Tough Guy behind. I have nothing but contempt for that sort of shit.

    11, is of course, Kevin’s actual honest-to-god real life surname.

    And saying that threats aren’t jokes is being an “Internet Tough Guy.”

  38. That guy got only one downvote, and 7 upvotes. The second guy with the weird assault pee torture hate-fantasy got 6 upvote and only 2 downvotes. I’m gonna call BS when you say those guys don’t at represent the MRM. Voting, ya know, is a pretty good way for groups to show who they represent.

    “The point is that it’s obviously not. It’s a pseudonymous facade for that person to act all Internet Tough Guy behind. I have nothing but contempt for that sort of shit.”

    What is your real full name? (Also that second sentence is redundant as fuck).

  39. I owe some blockquotes to Kittenserf, but a monster ate them.

    The blockquote monster’s been in a very silly mood lately. :P

    (no offense to Mr Kittehserf).

    None taken! :D Plus it would make typing here harder.

  40. What’s with trolly’s obsession with putting nyms in quotes? Oh, he thinks he’s being clever.

    I’m just glad “Kevin11″ doesn’t call himself “Kevin07″. I’d hate to think he called himself after a former PM.

  41. “Voting, ya know, is a pretty good way for groups to show who they represent.”

    This should say “what represents them”.

  42. Kevin 11, this is really important: Carrousel is a lie. There is no rebirth. Run, Kevin, run!

  43. Kevin is my real name; “Kevin 11″ is a nickname. If someone was very determined they could likely find out my real name, and I’d be fine with that. Because I stand by my words, which makes me the opposite of an Internet Tough Guy skidmark.

    Can you say the same, “Viscaria”?
    Can you say the same, “kittehserf”?

  44. I don’t know what you guys are talking about. My parents named me auggziliary, after my great grandmother’s username.

  45. ““Kevin 11″ is a nickname”

    Kevin11, I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but “kittehserf” is probably a nickname, and your name is still anonymous.

  46. Lol. No, I would not be fine with it of people linked my legal name to my pseudonym, because I have used my pseudonymity in order to talk about things like my bisexuality and mental health, both of which could have professional and personal consequences for me. Oh, and because I like to be an Internet Tough Guy and make fun of strange troll punctuation use.

  47. an Internet Tough Guy skidmark

    By omitting a comma, Kevin unwittingly describes himself.

  48. Maybe Kevin’s just sensitive cuz he can’t think of a cool nym. I had a D&D player like that once; named all his characters after himself.

  49. @ “kevin 11″

    Two things about the ‘Internet Tough Guy’ sneer.

    1. Given that women receive death and rape threats for saying things as mild as ‘Guys, don’t do that’, pseudonyms are just as often used for safety reasons. Nor does this stance explain why so many MRAs use pseudonyms. Are you saying the MRAs on reddit are skidmarks too? It’s like you don’t even know how the Internet works.

    2. The ‘Tough Guy’ sneer is absolutely full of toxic masculinity. It’s defining what ‘real’ men are – ‘strong’ vs ‘sly’, etc. It also genders the hell out of everyone (and so far, it spectacularly fails to gender them correctly).

  50. I had a D&D player that refused to name any character he played. He also min-maxed poorly. I actively encourage min-maxing as a DM, but he didn’t really know what he was doing and he couldn’t crunch numbers to save his life.

    I shouldn’t be surprised when I mentioned Japan only made marital rape illegal very recently and he went on a tirade about how marital rape wasn’t wrong, and if she agrees to marry you she isn’t allowed to refuse sex because “marriage is a contract for sex”.

    I would have liked to say I knocked the crap out of him, but no one had said anything that stupid to my face (I’ve only seen that thought as words on a screen), and the idea that a functional adult with no anonymity shield could say something that messed up shocked me into silence. My flaw is I freeze in situations like that.

  51. I’ve never understood the “marriage is a contract for sex”. Where exactly is that included in the contract? Even if it was due to it being legal, it’s not legal anymore, so you can’t use the law as a base for the argument.
    It’s like arguing that an invitation into someone’s house means that you own their house and all it’s belongings, even temporarily.

  52. Even when marriage was more about being a legal contract than, you know, the joining together of people who love each other, it wasn’t about sex. It was about alliances and kids (which requires sex, but never required that anyone involved enjoy it, including the men). I think the ‘contract for sex’ came about because people were scraping the bottom of the barrel for reasons to get married (love apparently being too difficult or something).

  53. I suspect Mr. 11 is focusing on the nym thing because he can’t actually defend the whole “calls for assassination is a funny, funny joke” thing.

  54. Poor Kevin. Handed the chance to rename himself anything he desired, the only limit his imagination. So sad that his imagination is so limited. No wonder he’s so defensive about nyms.

  55. Kevin is my real name; “Kevin 11″ is a nickname.

    Because everyone thinks of the other 10 Kevins they know first.

  56. Also scraping the bottom of the barrel for rape apologia. Seriously, of all the pro-rape arguments I’ve heard, that one make the least sense to me. It’s so simple. Does the contract include ownership of the partner’s body? No? Then it’s not in the “contract” anyways. Also why anyone would want that, IDK. That’s literally sex slavery. What a beautiful institution! The first time i heard this argument it was from a complete homophobe. Oh the irony…

  57. Come on – there’s only gotta be, like, three or four Kevins on the entire internet. Our Kevin is ever so brave for voluntarily narrowing down the field so much. No Internet Tough Guy he!

  58. I always do love the ‘subtle’ attempts to make people dox themselves. ‘If you were a REAL ____, you’d use you’re real name!’ Because nobody ever tried that ploy here before…

  59. Cloudiah, apparently some people have figured out the thing with me and Elam. I ran across this one day:

  60. I’m almost positive that meme was actually made by one of us XD I think I’ve seen it here before.

  61. Right. Because men would never try to regulate what women do with their private parts.

    Oh, wait.

  62. ““Kevin 11″ is a nickname”

    Ooh! Can I play. Pecunium is a persistent identification on the net. I even link to my other writings under it. If you follow the link on my username here it leads to some of them. You could also google it, and get other links, to other writings, and art, and stuff.

    So, what are your links, tough guy?

    Now, let’s get to the meat of the matter, why do you think calls for murder are funny? What makes the presence of so much active (and endorsed) hosility on r/mr something to be seen as a “glib joke”?

    Why do you hate women so much?

  63. Pecunium — go to bed! Don’t make me come down there to complain about puddles!

    On topic…Argenti totally is my name. At least by pecunium et al, he knows my legal name, so does his fiancé, but Argenti it is. I approve of this and would make it my legal name, but that’d mean cutting ties with the conservative family members who wouldn’t just disown me (that I could handle, endless lectures on what their church says no so much so)

  64. Argenti: I shall quibble: I don’t have a fiancé, but rather a fiancée. She has two fiancés.

  65. I wonder what MRAs would make of the She Wee?

    http://www.shewee.com/

  66. Can you say the same, “Viscaria”?
    Can you say the same, “kittehserf”?

    I can, and have. How do you think anyone refers to their friends here except by their usernames? Why do you think they’re hard to pronounce? Kittehserf is a nickname derived from a former nym.

    You really are a dumbfuck, aren’t you? Hiding behind this blather when called out for defending the indefensible. Why don’t you just admit you hate women, then piss off? Nobody here would miss you. In a week it’d be, “Who was that really stupid troll? I forget the name, and they’re all the same these days anyway.”

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