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Men Rights Activist: Don’t expect activism from us, because “someone has to keep this society running and it damn sure ain’t going to be the ladies.”

MRA doing a large amount of advocacy in a comment section

MRA doing a large amount of advocacy in a comment section

So someone went to the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day to ask the assembled Men’s Rights Activists a simple question: what sort of activism do you folks do? Specifically, the visitor asked, “Do MRAs have marches or campaigns or fundraisers?”

The post didn’t get much attention, but the answers that “Chickenjuggle” got were pretty, well, instructive.

Some Men’s Rights Redditors pointed to the astounding successes of the events organized by A Voice for Men, which have drawn literally dozens of people from around the globe — that is, more people than you are likely to see waiting for a bus (except during rush hour).

Others tried to claim credit for, among other things, Movember, a month-long prostate cancer awareness campaign that most MRAs have no more connection with than I do, and for the work of various Fathers Rights organizations that MRAs, by and large, have nothing to do with.

A few pointed to fundraisers that A Voice for Men has held … for itself. (Yes, if “fundraising” is redefined to mean “sending a lot of money to Paul Elam, without knowing what exactly he even does with it,” then, yes, MRAs are pretty active fundraisers.)

And the rest mostly offered excuses.

LAMFF explained that most men have a hard time fitting activism into their busy schedule of HUNTING THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU:

LAMFF 3 points 1 day ago (8|5)  Most MRA's are too busy working to march. Someone has to keep this society running and it damn sure ain't going to be the ladies.

Others darkly intimated that it was much too dangerous for them to actually get up off of their asses and march, as they might risk their balls, or at least their jobs, and possibly even their spot on the couch. (I added that last bit; it seems like it would be important to them.)

ThePigmanAgain 5 points 1 day ago (10|5)  "Do MRAS have marches...?"  No, mostly because MRAs have an aversion to being shot in the balls by the Stormtroopers of the Plutocracy.
Ianafiafe 15 points 1 day ago (21|6)  No because there are serious risks of losing jobs/pets etc. for MRAs who march.  Once the movement becomes mature and can withstand things like that there will be.

As is well-known, no other activists in the history of the world have ever put themselves willingly at risk for their ideals.

Unkleman sniffed that those silly marches were probably sour, anyway:

unkleman 1 point 1 day ago (3|2)  MRA's are more about awareness in a hostile media than feelgoodisms or PR actions. The distinction lies in that men do not need to qualify themselves for equality, once the general populace is aware, people will be inclined towards fairness. It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

That bit at the end about “false facts” is an interesting slip, huh?

TRPACC, meanwhile, insisted that sitting on your ass posting comments on the internet was, in fact, activism of the highest order:

TRPACC 1 point 1 day ago (4|3)  AVfM, CAFE and F4J are the most active in those regards, individual mra's have been doing a large amount of advocacy in comments sections of the mainstream media for years.  AVfM is currently trying to raise 20k and is going to expand.
In other words, this video from SomeGreyBloke turns out not to be a parody after all, but a dead-on accurate portrayal:

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Posted on December 28, 2013, in a voice for men, entitled babies, father's rights, hamstering, hypocrisy, imaginary oppression, men created civilization, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, playing the victim, slacktivism, somegreybloke, the eternal solipsism of the MRA mind, we hunted the mammoth, why should we have to do anything?, women's jobs aren't real and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 130 Comments.

  1. @kittehserf Sauce for the goose is good for the gander?

  2. kittehs – HAH! Good point! :D

  3. opium4themasses – sauce is MISLADLRY!

  4. Feminist Pet-Confiscating Police

    First they came for my wife, and I didn’t speak out, because she was already over 30.

    Then they came for my dog, and I didn’t speak out, because she was a real bitch.

    Then they came for my cat, and I didn’t speak out, because she was way too independent for my tastes.

    Then they came for my goldfish, and I thought the joke was on them, because the fish wasn’t really made of gold.

    Then they came for my Tamagotchi, and I just thought that Asian virtual pets were overrated for their submissive nature anyway.

    They still haven’t come for my cactus.

  5. Lol! If that goldfish was being kept in a typical goldfish bowl, I want to come for it and rescue it to a suitably large and well filtered tank (those fuckers get BIG and are shit machines [like, make a fist, now have it constantly pooping…that's pretty much an adult goldfish])

  6. Popping in to say Happy Holidays to Manbooberz everywhere. Hope you’re staying warm and well fed on Mamoth steaks.

  7. Arctic Ape – They did eventually come for my cactus. But I didn’t speak out, for I hoped that the spines will lodge in their butts.

    They then came back for the sand, but I didn’t need it anymore because they took my cactus.

    They still haven’t taken my pet rock.

  8. Love the grey man!

    While I don’t agree with the methods employed by Fathers4Justice, at least those guys do attempt to do something to help the men they represent, though again, one of their people at the top is a woman.

  9. Deep down they know if they ever did march if wouldn’t come off very well. What would they chant or write on their signs? If they were being honest it would go something like this-

    Spread those legs
    We need sex
    Wimmin were made
    To suck dick

    Or possible something about scented candles and hand bags being evil. Maybe bear fighting?

  10. Equal sauce is misandry! So are women having cats…and a Cactus of One’s Own!

  11. @Valerienorth: Indeed.

    Placards demanding:

    ‘WE DON’T WANT CHANGE!!’

    ‘PUT THINGS BACK HOW THEY WERE!! (though they were never really like that it’s just feeeeemale lies)

    ‘WE DEMAND THE RIGHT TO TAKE AWAY WOMEN’S AUTONOMY!!’ (not that they really have any, that’s just a feeeeemale lie too)

    ‘SEX FOR UNATTRACTIVE MEN WHO HAVE NO INTERPERSONAL SKILLS!!’

    ‘ABOLISH UGLY WOMEN!!’

    ‘STOP WOMEN HAVING SEX UNLESS IT’S WITH US!!’

    And so on. I’m starting to wish they would march so people could point and laugh at them.

  12. And then I noticed that those groups have some very prominent women in them. GWW in Edmonton, Typhoid Blue in S’toon. Not sure about Toronto, don’t care enough to go looking (kind of assuming that GWW organized it from Edm).

    So now I’m assuming that, as with almost every organization run by men (I’m thinking churches), the actual work is being done by women.

    Wouldn’t be at all surprised. But unlike the women in those churches, the FeMRA’s are getting exactly what they deserve.

  13. I suspect they’re using FeMRAs as mouthpieces to try to make it look like they aren’t sexist and misogynous as hell. As though that strategy weren’t utterly transparent. And as though they weren’t going to dispose of these women as soon as they could…

  14. I completely agree they don’t want change . Too many references to the good ole 1950′s to believe they are O.K with how things are .Just needs some tweaking for men’s issues like prostate cancer research and more women paying for dates.

    Too many references to going back to fault divorce after the phrase “75% of women file for divorce” . Too many references to what in effect would make it more intimidating for women to report rape . Too many intimidating references towards women to marry very young. Too many references to consent to sex in marriage is a given the day you say I do, its assumed from that day forward its not a question anymore. Too many references for the desire for the “return of ” clear cut ,well defined ,male and female “gender roles ” and etc ,etc…

    That’s not change ,unless you wan’t to call it “changing back.”

  15. Bina – it’d help their strategy if the feMRAs weren’t as misogynist as hell, too.

  16. –]ThePigmanAgain 0 points 2 days ago
    “Do MRAS have marches…?”
    No, mostly because MRAs have an aversion to being shot in the balls by the Stormtroopers of the Plutocracy.

    LOL!! Right …personally for myself you need to realize you aren’t worth going to jail over . Besides it would be more fun to gather with friends, with some lawn chairs , lots of popcorn ,sit on the curb / and laugh our asses off at you . That is if you can find enough men WITH the balls to show up for a march. I doubt that will happen .

  17. I’d love to know who the Stormtroopers of the Plutocracy are. Are we talking the Sturmtroppen of WWI, or something more like Star Wars?

    It couldn’t possibly be the various US police forces, could it? I wouldn’t have thought a handful of white guys whining about loss of privilege would attract such attention.

  18. something more like Star Wars

    I’m picturing Darth Vader and the works. Talk about your father’s custody battles!

  19. Marches? Well, to have a march you need enough people willing to publicly label themselves under the MRA banner, and even then the focus of marches is primarily just awareness. Considering that I’ve gotten harassing calls to my job and family for coming out as an MRA I can’t say I recommend it — My boss is understanding and sympathetic to my political activism, but not everyone can be so fortunate.

    Way to RALLY for your serious men’s issues ! While men are being seriously and systematically discriminated against/abused (by women) you ‘recommend’ not coming out as an MRA?

    Such bravery it takes my breath away laughing.

  20. [–]Ianafiafe 11 points 2 days ago
    No because there are serious risks of losing jobs/pets etc. for MRAs who march.
    Once the movement becomes mature and can withstand things like that there will be.

    But wait a minute ? I thought that was already happening anyway because of misandry /feminism /divorce ? Come on seriously what do you have to lose ?????

  21. It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

    O.K my eyebrows are really crinkled now . Is this saying to combat lies with lies in order to challenge the lies ?

  22. Yah ..I think he means Star Wars.

  23. Some Men’s Rights Redditors pointed to the astounding successes of the events organized by A Voice for Men, which have drawn literally dozens of people from around the globe — that is, more people than you are likely to see waiting for a bus (except during rush hour).

    David !!!!!!!!! I’m ‘in love” with your smart ass!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Original version:

    It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

    Likely intention:

    It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with: false facts that have been too long unchallenged.

    Apparently disambiguating punctuation is misandry.

  25. it’d help their strategy if the feMRAs weren’t as misogynist as hell, too.

    Heh. Sooner or later, one of those useful tools is going to slip up and show herself insufficiently self-hating…and when she does, it’s heave-ho, over you go, off with The Wooly Bumblebee.

    That prospect alone makes me giggly with anticipation…

  26. Yes ..sooner or later they will get tired of being regarded as their pet dogs. Being kept on a leash and patted on the head wont be enough .

  27. And if they propose anything which might actually benefit men and boys in need, they’ll be shafted so fast, they won’t know what hit them. That’s what Ms. Bumble did. It didn’t sit well with El Elam.

  28. Right . What might actually help unless it somehow punishes women will be immediately rejected . They “need” to stay victims otherwise what is the excuse to have rage gatherings against evil feminist ? They don’t want harmony they want control over women .Its so obvious.

    This video (its a Christian MAN talking about why women are divorcing) is met with outrage if you suggest it to an MRA . They retort its nonsense blaming ‘everything on men”. Its a short video and I wouldn’t post it if I didn’t believe its a big part of the problem. They RECOIL in disgust!

  29. Heaven forfend that we leave them if they don’t love us. We’re only supposed to be there to burnish their egos, wash their socks, make them sandwiches, give them kids…and suck their dicks. Expecting anything in return, even a paltry show of love, is misandry!

  30. But of course. Only a mangina likes, let alone loves, women. Or any other being except himself, for that matter.

  31. @James

    Likely intention:

    “It is false propaganda and straight out lies we need to combat with: false facts that have been too long unchallenged.”

    Apparently disambiguating punctuation is misandry.

    Avoiding redundancy and having a basic grasp of English grammar is also Misandry, which is why this ass-backwards sentence is a prime example MRA activism.

  32. Thinking, speaking, writing and acting in a clear and on-risible fashion is deepest, darkest misandry!

  33. Ahem…NON-risible, thanks, Typo Monster.

  34. Dallas –

    It may seem at first glance that the MRA’s want to go back to the 1950′s, but once you read a little bit, you realize that they don’t want that, either. They want the privilege that went with being male in an old-school patriarchy, but they don’t want the responsibility. Their writing oozes with resentment for SAHM’s – aka “women sitting at home eating bon bons and leeching off of men”. They would look at a Fifties-style relationship and argue that the man was being exploited by the woman…using him for his money.

    As for the FeMRA’s…it would be nice to think they’d wake up someday, but the best that’s likely to happen is that they’ll get thrown overboard one by one, like the Woolly Bumblebee. And there will always be another one waiting in the wings. That “pat on the head” – being told you’re different and better than all those other bitches – can be addictive indeed.

  35. I have a very serious question…I just pointed this out to a friend, and now I must know.

    Dude said MRA’s are keeping society running because it ain’t gonna be the ladies. How is it, then, that evil feeemales are running everything? Consistency and logic are misandry!

  36. This post is comedic gold. I too loathe their stupidity but I almost hope MRAs would never go away. Not really. Dave, please write a book about this blog and the Manospherean people, whoever they really are, go on the Colbert Report and spread the laughter while simultaneously exposing them for their absolute pettiness. It’s got to be your destiny.

  37. Dude said MRA’s are keeping society running because it ain’t gonna be the ladies. How is it, then, that evil feeemales are running everything?

    Yes, I’ve always been nonplussed by that one. How can women be utterly useless at everything and dependent on men for their very survival while simultaneously controlling the world in such a devious manner that it looks like the opposite?

  38. SomeGreyBloke has a knack for sarcasm, that’s for sure, lol. Seriously, the whole of the manosphere is just a whining fest of bullshit, looking to blame an easy wrong target for their oppression and that’s women and feminism. The REAL problem is bad, corrupt politics…and too much video gaming and not enough constructive work.

  39. Well, hey, we gotta hand it to them, they really are thinking of what’s best for everyone when they say they can’t do activism because, society. We all know that the US basically collapsed during WWII when all the young menz were away. Whoooooooooooooooops.

    It’s always so cute when they claim the world will stop turning if they just up and left their jobs. Dudes, no. At least in the US, there’s some odd 10 million unemployed right now. You leave your jobs? There will be plenty more people to take your place.

  40. Well, hey, we gotta hand it to them, they really are thinking of what’s best for everyone when they say they can’t do activism because, society. We all know that the US basically collapsed during WWII when all the young menz were away.

    Not fair! The men had to leave the workplace and fight because the women DEFINITELY couldn’t do that and it would be a total disaster if they tried! Whooooops.

  41. Not to mention the womenz totally started those wars for more bon bon accumulation because, male disposability.

    Also, on the “if you want to have a man strike, go ahead and have one” thing, for realsies I often think that in a lot of cases, if these festering sacks of unpleasantness left their respective workplaces, the folks who worked there would probably notice a sizable drop in workplace hostility and enmity.

    @ Snork Maiden

    Yes, I’ve always been nonplussed by that one. How can women be utterly useless at everything and dependent on men for their very survival while simultaneously controlling the world in such a devious manner that it looks like the opposite?

    I think they assume women are equal parts faking being useless and really useless so as to enslave the menz or… nope, nevermind, it doesn’t add up no matter what kind of bass ackwards logic I try to do to it.

    Basically, women are always the enemies, for forever, no matter what.

  42. How can women be utterly useless at everything and dependent on men for their very survival while simultaneously controlling the world in such a devious manner that it looks like the opposite?

    There are 3 simple rules:

    1. Everything good and useful in the world was created by men.
    2. Everything bad and scary is the fault of women.
    3. Ignore any evidence that contradicts your conclusions.

  43. Thank you all for clearing that up for me. My ladybrain was incapable of paradox solution. All I could figure out was that making sense is misandry.

  44. 4. Making sense is misandry. (So is everything else.)

  45. Didn’t we agree that blowjobs are not misandry, but only if they’re immediately available upon command and the woman doesn’t enjoy giving them?

  46. I dunno, aren’t blowjobs an evil conspiracy to control men by way of their orgasms? Or else a divine right? I get those things mixed up sometimes.

  47. Definitely needs those restrictions, plus she has to be at least an HB10.

  48. “There are 3 simple rules:

    1. Everything good and useful in the world was created by men.
    2. Everything bad and scary is the fault of women.
    3. Ignore any evidence that contradicts your conclusions.”

    I have a simpler one:

    1. Whatever makes women look bad for the sake of your current rant is true.

  49. RE: Brooked

    Avoiding redundancy and having a basic grasp of English grammar is also Misandry, which is why this ass-backwards sentence is a prime example MRA activism.

    I can’t remember the name, but we soooo got a troll here who insisted that the reason his words were so indecipherable was because of his misandrist English teacher tainting the whole business of communicating to him.

  50. That was Mr Al in his Steele days.

  51. Here’s something for MRAs to think about. Do they think that being a man automatically makes them superior to women since many of the great thinkers, inventors, statesmen, etc., were, and are, men? It shouldn’t since not all men are great thinkers, inventors, statesmen, etc. And there are women out there who were, or are, great thinkers, inventors, statesmen, etc.

  52. Asking MRAs to thing = Misandry! ;-)

  53. ^ or “think” even … damn you, typo!

  54. There is no need to march. The revolution is in the mind. Thats how to defeat feminist hate.

  55. Random necro troll is random. O.o But as long he keeps his revolution in his mind I guess harmless (but considering he is commenting here… we aren’t that lucky).

  56. Revolution of the mind = trolls going round and round in circles.

  57. Revolution of the mind =

  58. “The revolution is in the mind” = dude, you’re spinning. Stop it.

  59. What a pseudointellectual way to say “lazy.”

  60. There is no need to march. The revolution is in the mind. Thats how to defeat feminist hate.

    I’m sure male abuse victims in need of shelters and other resources necessary to escape their abusive partners are yearning for the psychic revolution you speak of. Oh wait.

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