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Red Piller: Unless white women start “sh*tting out” more babies, western civilization is doomed

A shipment of white babies.

A shipment of white babies.

So one of the regulars on Reddit’s The Red Pill subreddit — the “TRP Endorsed” contributor who calls himself IllimitableMan — has worked himself into a lather about the coming Whitepocalypse. You know, the impending collapse of civilization that Mr. Man and assorted other racist asshats  fear will come about as a result of white women refusing to pop out the required number of white babies to keep it alive. Sorry, due to white women refusing to “shit out” the required number of white babies. (Mr. Man is quite the defender of family values.)

It pretty much goes without saying that IllimitableMan blames feminism for it all. In fact, over the course of his rambling, repetitive, and rage-fuelled 2,000 word rant he manages to blame feminism for the impending death of the white race roughly half a dozen different times.

Here’s perhaps the most coherent statement of his thesis:

Feminism has infected western civilization, which means by merit of these societies being predominantly white Caucasian, has harmed this ethnicity the most on a global level, reducing its birth rates the most significantly and affecting its various European and anglo speaking cultures the most adversely. …

What we can conclude is that castrating men by raising them to be effeminate whilst simultaneously allowing women too much freedom and self-determination and polluting said women to view men as adversaries leads to a drop in the birth-rate so deep that a society becomes unsustainable, leading to its inevitable collapse.

So why are white women less interested in popping out babies these days? Blame that Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel.

A fundamental criticism of feminism is it taught women to take on masculine traits, to provide, to work hard, it demonised the sanctity of motherhood, it taught women to value career and the self (an overlap with individualism there) over motherhood and family, 21-year-old White Caucasian girls no longer give any fucks about being a mother and a wife like they did in the 50′s and 60′s, no now they’re thinking about jumping on as much cock as possible, getting a degree, going on holidays … and generally fulfilling the sexual and materialistic elements of their hypergamy. Family and reproduction takes a back-seat.

Ah, good old “hypergamy.” I would just like to take a moment to point out that the word hypergamy actually means “the action of marrying a person of a superior caste or class.” Red Pillers and Men’s Rights Activists have so distorted the basic concept that Mr. Man here can use it to mean “fucking lots of dudes who aren’t me, providing for themselves and NOT getting married to anyone” without blinking an eye.

Mr. Man continues:

Society facilitates this as any imposition of responsibility or standards placed on a woman is rationalised away as simple “oppression” some psychological misogyny cards are played and voila, Miss Jane average can diffuse all her responsibilities and continue to live as a completely obnoxious and self-entitled bitch giving no fucks in the world about settling down until her beauty privilege fucks off around the age of 30 aka “she’s hitting the wall.” Whilst she was fucking around in her twenties, the average immigrant woman has already had a couple of kids and they’re attending school now.

Damn you white ladies, for neglecting your duty to the white race and refusing to get married until you’re ugly crones in your (gasp) thirties!

And so, while white birthrates decline, European countries have opened their borders to not-white people who show up and eat not-white food and wear not-white clothes and make a lot of not-white babies. Mr. Man, who is apparently British, notes:

[A]n American friend came to London once and stated “IllimitableMan there are no fucking English people this looks like Pakistan” Yes, I did just throw anecdotal evidence in there, this is a blog – not a fucking thesis and I’m starting to taste prozac in my mouth after the incessantly negative tone this piece carries, of course many of you know as such that the pill can be a bitter bitch.

I felt compelled to look up the actual demographics of London, and found that roughly 60% of London’s population is white — which is what I assume Mr. Man’s friend meant by “English people” — and the vast majority of them are of British origin. Roughly 3 percent are Pakistani, another 3 percent are Bangladeshi, and not-quite 7 percent are Indian.

It’s kind of amazing the effect that bigotry can have on someone’s perception of reality, huh?

Like some other Red Pillers and white supremacists out there, Mr. Man looks to that beacon of hope and freedom in our world — Russia — for the possible salvation of the dying white race.

As usual, like with feminism, Russia seems to be one of the few countries making a stand against egalitarian bullshit and seeing the world for what it truly is, a ruthless and uncaring place, I guess being an inherently “red pill country” and opting to reject the babble of cacophonous radical leftist ideologies has had it benefits for the Ruski people.

The funny thing about Mr. Man’s rant is that many of the basic demographic trends he cites are, in fact, real. White birthrates have fallen, and as he points out, in the US more whites are dying than are being born — though somehow he’s missed the news that the birthrates of immigrants to the US have fallen even faster, with the birthrates of Mexican immigrants falling nearly 4 times faster than that of native-born Americans between 2007 and 2010.

Women have entered the workplace in larger numbers and are waiting longer to marry (as are men). Feminism has something to do with all these changes, but so do changes in birth control technology, in education and in the economy.

So what? The real problem with Mr. Man’s rants is that, for assorted racist and misogynistic reasons, he thinks all this is bad. Europe and the US are becoming more multicultural? Cool. That makes the world a more interesting place. Birth rates are falling, not only for whites but for other ethnic groups? Cool. This planet has already got more people than it can handle, and lower birth rates may be critical if we have any hope of staving off a total environmental collapse.

I’m always a bit perplexed by Red Pillers and pickup artists ranting about how women (whether white women or women in general) need to settle down and get married and start popping out babies because that’s their duty as women. It’s not like Red Pill dudes seem particularly interested in marrying these women and raising these babies with them.

Once again, it seems to come back to the issue of control: they’re angry at women for actually living independent existences in their twenties and — oh my gosh! — sometimes even their thirties or later, and “you’re betraying your race” (whether that race is the white “race” or the human race) is just a convenient excuse to bash women who are not so much “out of control” as out of their control.

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Posted on December 15, 2013, in a woman is always to blame, alpha asshole cock carousel, antifeminism, armageddon, boner rage, evil sexy ladies, evil women, grandiosity, imaginary oppression, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed white men, racism, reactionary bullshit, red pill, reddit, whitepocalypse and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 840 Comments.

  1. There are no white people in Scotland either! I know this because there was an Indian restaurant in the town I was born in and the people who worked there were Indian. Therefore all my cousins better start having babies or else.

  2. Wait, what about the cousin who lives in Australia? Do her babies count? I’m confused.

  3. Kenny seems desperate to claim anyone who’s not of (presumably) northern European stock as really truly being African, or something. Not sure why, given he’s also blathering about how whites are totes disappearing anyway. Cognitive dissonance much?

  4. So. What have we learned here. NYC has no or almost no white-American residents. Italians don’t count because Kenny says so. The government just wants you to believe there are white people in NYC because conspiracy. Or something. Also working in a museum means you know the Truth and “picking up” women on the street is the ultimate way to gauge demographics.

    Wow! I feel educated!

  5. Actually, I need to nuke my coffee, I’ll get a second and third opinion on the matter while I’m at it. But I’ll eat my hat if either my mother or brother don’t consider themselves white (oh and btw? Every one of my relatives has 2+ kids except one cousin, and the cousins under 30)

  6. @Argen…-I didn’t say Italians would accept being called blacks. I said they would prefer than to be called white. And I’m speaking of American Italians. American Italians do NOT want to be called whites because the general notion of white Americans is that of “Soft” and nerdy. Italians are tough and very aggressive, which is why they hate being considered white, which is synonymous with soft, weak and nerdy.

  7. I love how I’m being lectured on what Italians, of which I am a quarter, prefer to be called. Let me repeat myself, I have never met an Italian who’d prefer to be called black.

  8. I’m going to weigh in with my favourite insult. Cockjuggling douchecanoe. Asshat is just my most oft used because it covers such a wide variety of behaviours, and I tend to save cockjuggling douchecanoe for special occassions.

    Anyway, a friend of mine found this, and it is completely awful.
    ***TRIGGER WARNING***
    Seriously, do not click on this unless you are feeling very safe. MRA fantasy rape (because even in their fantasies, the only way they can have sex is if a judge orders it for them).

    I can’t get onto the artistry for misandry page which is where the original is from. I hope that means it is broken. Thought the dark lord might like to mock this.

  9. Holy moly, can Kenny’s last comment include any more stereotypes and generalisations? I don’t think so.

    And I’m still damn curious as to what Kenny’s job at this museum is…and which museum he works at…

  10. @Aug…: Dude, try the reverse psychology on someone else. You don’t think I can clearly spot a country accent from an Australian? Are you an idiot? A Brit doesn’t sound like someone from Arkansas. A Russian speaking English doesn’t sound like a Carolinian.

  11. but I work in a museum.

    keeping the floors shiny, from the evidence

  12. Oh and it’s Argenti, you can handle the two more letters.

  13. We’ve also learned that white women aren’t made to bore babies. I guess Michelle Duggar must be a very entertaining parent.

  14. Add “doesn’t understand what reverse psychology is” to the growing list.

  15. You sure deal in stupid stereotypes, don’t you, Antisocial?

  16. I’mma have to tell my friend he’s no longer allowed to call himself Italian-American because he’s too nice. His mom who was born in Italy will undoubtedly be shocked.

    What does count as ‘white’ then, oh mighty pick-up ethnographer?

  17. @Heather- I’m the lead curator at the museum. What’s your point?

  18. Kenny probably does after-hours cleaning at some creationist museum. They don’t let him in during the day because he harasses women visitng.

  19. Shaun – *looks at the image* WHUT

  20. “Lead curator” oh yeah, that’s a real title, for sure.

    Unless he means galena is all they’ll let him near.

  21. @Kitt…: Doesn’t matter what I do there. The point is, someone commented that anthropologists do NOT use the term mongoloid to refer to Asians. So even if I were a museum security or cleaner, you don’t think I can simply ask 1 of the archaeologists who is stationed there if they use the term? But I don’t need to ask them because I interact with them daily.

  22. My says “I think he’s wrong” and suggests you ask some Italian immigrants what they call black people. My brother does’t care either way, which is his way of saying “go away”.

  23. Kenny: Which museum? Where? What does the museum specialise in?

    My point is that you are so far outside the mainstream (or at least behind the times) of anthropology and archaeology that I can’t really fathom a mainstream historical museum employing you as a curator.

  24. Wtf, stop randomly shortening people’s names when three seconds of paying attention would tell you what we call each other.

  25. “@Aug…: Dude, try the reverse psychology on someone else. You don’t think I can clearly spot a country accent from an Australian? Are you an idiot? A Brit doesn’t sound like someone from Arkansas. A Russian speaking English doesn’t sound like a Carolinian.”

    So if an Australian moves permanently to NYC, they’re not living in NYC? I’ve been making this point for a while now.

  26. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    Well it sure isn’t one of those government museums. Any information those would give must necessarily be compromised.

  27. @Ignot- That’s like asking, why would the government cover up the true #’s on a specific matter in the country. It’s to prevent anarchy. Are you that dumb?

    Telling the white populace that they’re the minority, you don’t think that would inspire some paranoid nut-jobs to try to take over the government or incite home-grown terrorism?

    If whites were to be told by the government and the media that they’ll be extinct in 100 years, what would prevent mass killing of Mexicans and blacks by those dissatisfied and paranoid whites?

    So think before you comment.

    The government will never tell us the truth.

  28. And again,back to the term mongoloid: No archaeologists refer to Asians collectively as anything…because the concept of a single Asian race is just way outdated. Mind, my own speciality was the Levant, so perhaps some archaeologists do still use the term “mongoloid” in some way. But I doubt it, because all the -oid terminology is highly controversial and reminsicent of when anthropology was plagued with racism and colonialism.

  29. Kenny, you’re a lying piece of shit, so we’re not going to take you at your word about anything. You’re so against data and science and statistics, and so ready to claim your very limited anecdotes as superior to them, yet you want us to believe you get all this info from academics at a museum? Bullshit.

    What’s your job, that you have time to be wandering around pestering people about your pet theories? If you were a “lead curator” or anything of the sort, you wouldn’t have time to waste on that sort of thing.

    Do you try this name-shortening trick on people you’ve just met AFK? Is it an attempt to irritate? That sounds like the sort of halfwitted thing a PUA would try. They never seem to grasp that fleas are irritating, but that doesn’t make humans want to fuck them.

  30. Why are you acting like the people in the government are all PoC?

  31. Telling the white populace that they’re the minority, you don’t think that would inspire some paranoid nut-jobs to try to take over the government or incite home-grown terrorism?

    Fuck, you are laughably stupid. The goverment of the US is white dominated, and is already too much in the power of right-wing racists. They’re called the Republicans.

  32. Kenny is boring, and I’ve been on a serial killer documentary binge, have fun with the idiot. (Hey Kitteh, my current one is an Aussie — Peter Dupas)

  33. well, very large theatre companies have “lead curators” of their prop & costume storage facilities….

  34. Obviously there aren’t paranoid people already calling out for “2nd Amendment solutions” to resolve the “there’s a black person in da WHITE House” problem!

  35. Here’s the demographic breakdown of the city I live in:

    White–25.6%

    Black or African American–23.1%

    Hispanic or Latino–43.8%

    Asian*–6.1%

    Other–1.4%

    (Note:Note: Asian* includes American Indian and Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander populations.)

    There are not, never have been, and never will be “mass killing of Mexicans and blacks by those dissatisfied and paranoid whites” in Houston. Nor are any other race riots in our future, for that matter. I think the paranoid one is you, Kenster.

  36. kittehs – EWWW, so we’re being negged? *SHUDDER*

  37. @Heather- You want specific details of the museum that I work. Oh really? Do you want the address and directions also?

  38. Hi, Italian/Sicilian weighing in here.

    This is funny stuff, really:

    “You raised a good point because lots of Italians do NOT consider themselves to be white, and you know that, and the average American knows that.”

    Where do you get this stuff? It’s a funny bit, don’t get me wrong, but errr, geeze. Maybe you meant Italians don’t consider themselves WASPS? **awkward cough**

    “You cannot call a New York Italian white or he will fuck you up! They prefer to be called black if anything, but Italian Americans, the ones on the East Coast primarily, do NOT consider themselves white.”

    You made this up.Seriously, this is not an actual thing.

    “Also, to take it a step further, lots of Italians have African/black blood, which is why Sicilians are the color they are.”

    What color are they to you, Kenny? Have you ever seen one? According to Estee Lauder, my complexion is Deset Beige…not that it means fuck all…

    “You know this and history proves it with the Hanibal invasion of Italy. So a great # of Italians have black in them.”

    You’re oversimplifying the hell out of the history, but wait, what was the fucking point again?

  39. Argenti – gah, Peter Dupas. That’s an utterly repulsive oxygen thief.

  40. @Kitte..: Lol you are so ridiculous. Working at a museum should inhibit me from picking up women on times where I’m not working?

    Really?

    So a Pick-Up Artist cannot work in a museum lol?

    This is surely loony-toon time with you guys.

  41. Oh, Kenny…don’t pretend to be afraid I’m trying to doxx you. I’m really not. I’m quite against doxxing of anyone. It’s just that, considering you are using your job at a museum as a supposed position of authority…as “proof” you know what you’re talking about…I’d like to know which museum. Also, as I said, you are so far outside the mainstream of anthropology as to make your employment as a museum’s curator rather questionable.

    So…if you don’t want to provide your place of employment, then maybe just provide some info about it…like…is it a large museum? A small one? A sort of general museum of history, or does it specialise in a specific region/time period? Is it more art-oriented, a la the Met, or is it more natural history oriented?

  42. this one is between perspectives

    actually the term for Italians is “White Ethnics” same with Jews, Portuguese, Irish, Spanish and Ukranian (as well as most ‘eastern Europeans’. It’s a slightly out dated term that isn’t without it’s own set of problem but I think it’s a term that really exemplifies the internal race hierarchy even within the category of white/Caucasian people.

    I can’t speak for all Italians obviously but the ones I know get upset if you say they arn’t white…..same with all the Portuguese(Brazilian), Irish, Spanish and eastern European people I know.

  43. This is surely loony-toon time with you guys.

    Oh Goody!!! More ableism! (sarcasm)

  44. kenny, it should inhibit you from spouting assfax, which is why we don’t believe you actually work at a museum.

  45. @Heather- I specifically mentioned that it’s a historical museum. And please, try to insult the intelligence of 1 of the other commenters because I’m way about it. I’m fluent in Spanish, standard and slang, fluent in Arabic (fusha/modern and classical), also Levantine dialect of Arabic of Syria, Jordan, Palestine and Lebanon. So I’m a worldly guy and not 1 of these clowns you can play the phonetic stuff on

  46. Oh you ridiculous thing. That was an elegant shifting of goal posts there. I might not have noticed if not for the fact that I am actually capable of remembering things I read a whole thirty minutes ago.

    First off, it’s Ignotus. Is it really that difficult to type two more letters.

    On a national level, there have been multiple studies indicating that the percentage of whites will decrease! Here is a ~government~ site which indicates that by 2060 whites will no longer be a majority. Incredibly this has not caused mass race wars.

    Now, you initially started this conversation by talking only about NYC! What purpose would any section of the government have to cover up the racial makeup of that city? Maybe I’m biased coming from an area where the two major cities actually do have a majority black population, but I really just don’t get why they would go to so much trouble. Do you seriously think that people would riot and begin massive campaigns of genocide because NYC isn’t like they saw it in the movies?

    Now, where I’m from definitely has its own problems related to race. But the existence of a black majority doesn’t suddenly turn white folks into murderers. Nor do most people seriously give a shit about oh noes not enough white babies.

  47. history of what?

  48. “I totally speak all of these languages! Ladies, suck it and WEEP!”

    And we’re supposed to be impressed?

  49. “Maybe you meant Italians don’t consider themselves WASPS? **awkward cough**”

    Hey now, plenty are Catholic!

    Kitteh — so far that does seem to be the case!

  50. **giggle-snort** Agreed, Argenti.

  51. Oh…that’s exactly what you meant, whoops! (Well, that and the AS part of that, which really should’ve given away the snark…)

  52. @This one is..:I specifically said Italian American. You cannot call an Italian in NYC or in New Jersey a white person! You obviously don’t live and have never lived in NYC, or you’re blatantly lying.

    I was raised in and live in the Bronx, not far from Little Italy off East Tremont and Fordham road. So I have personal experience in dealing with American Italians.

    Italian Americans do NOT consider themselves white. If they’re filling out applications and so forth; they will have to select white as race if that is requires, but an Italian American will never tell you that he calls or classifies him or herself as a white person. They will tell you straight up; “I’m not white”!

    So IDK where you so-called Italians are getting your info.

  53. As a well known and respected nuclear physicist who is presently single handedly running the large hadron collider at CERN, I here by declare any assfact I choose to pull out of my superior derrière as undeniably true.

    Tru fax, yah boo sucks to you!

  54. @takshak History of Shit from Soci’s Ass?

  55. @Taksh..: Oh I made that up because it’s so cool to work at a museum right? Fall back and hit your head on the pillow weirdo.

  56. LOL Kenny doesn’t get that trying his pickup shit at work would get him in deep trouble. Colour me surprised. Because that, child, was my point: you as cleaner wouldn’t be allowed to work near the public, because you’re a sleazy little creeper.

    Y’know something? I really did work at a museum (not the Museum of PUA Fail, either). We had one staff member who really did try pestering staff and public, and he was out on his arse in no time.

  57. Fun factoid: In German, schwarz means black. That adjective can in turn be used to describe either a black person — or a person of any color skin, with black hair. By that token, Hitler was black.

    Actually, given his DNA, he was at least partly the OTHER kind of black, too. (Also, ironically, Jewish.)

    As is Craig Cobb, who does not have black hair. Or skin.

    This concludes today’s mini-lesson in German and genetics.

    PS to Kenny: Please stop smoking horseshit. It’s making you paranoid.

  58. I’m still confused about the NYC accent thing. Well, I’m confused about everything he’s said here, to be fair.

  59. I feel like Kenny and Pell are sort of melting together.

  60. @Ignot- Since stopping random folks on the streets is creepy, it’s now so apparent why a guy like yourself (if you are a man) doesn’t get laid, and is probably a 50 year-old virgin living at home with mom. You’re a disgrace to mankind. Go get laid! In fact, I can give you lessons on the house ;)

  61. They are, aren’t they? Though Kenny needs lessons in how to make pompous job claims. He’s not threatening Pell’s lead at all.

  62. Kenny — you specifically said, with stereotypes about both black and white people, that Italian Americans prefer to be called black than white. Whether they prefer to be called Italian than white is moot. The fact they check the “white” box and not “black” or “other” should really tell you all you need to know on that one. But hey, continue to question where the Italian Americans here got heir info. Stupidity must look good on you or you’d wise up right?

    Or are you simply incapable of a coherent argument?

  63. Wow, Kenny, you really hate men, don’t you, if you think a man’s only worth is in how many women he manages to shove his dick into. What a sad little man you are.

  64. “weirdo”? thanks for the compliment!

    kenny, kenny kenny… you’ve made up everything else, why not your occupation?

    @ Bina.. that’s not horseshit in his pipe, it’s the drapes.

  65. Obviously when we’re acting like decent human beings who see women as people, it means that we’re all living in mommy’s basement and not getting laid. TRU FAX!

  66. Fall back and hit your head on the pillow weirdo

    Anyone else think that has some pretty rapey undertones?

  67. Apparently the only way to get laid is by stopping strangers on the street now. And not doing this means it’s a disgrace to mankind.
    It’s like each of his comments are a new pile of WUT.

  68. *totally doesn’t have to stop people on the street to ask about scheduling a hotel* For, uh, pecunium related reasons, though the hotel email went to my pharm student (who damned well better have time!

    Hey pecunium, care to say what those reasons are? That being your business and all.

  69. kittehs – One step away from “lie back and think of England”? *shudder*

  70. @Kitt..: Who said I pick up women while on the job?

    And for your info, I’m a non-conformist like 99% of your Beta-male cowards commenting here who are afraid to approach women, and are afraid to lose the cushy job by not picking up women at work.

    As a curator, my job strictly entails interacting with tourists mainly, since 90% of our visitors are tourists, so I interact with women on a daily basis at work…

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