Matt Forney — yes, THAT guy — dances on Nelson Mandela’s grave

Nelson Mandela, RIP

Nelson Mandela, RIP

For more proof that bigotries flock together, let’s take a look at some tweets the always despicable Matt Forney made today after learning of the death of Nelson Mandela:

His “statistical evidence” of an alleged “white genocide” in South Africa? A page that links to a curious document full of unsourced claims and hysterical language, and which refers to South Africa’s former apartheid system as “so-called apartheid.” (It’s a pdf; TRIGGER WARNING for gruesome pictures of murder victims.)

Here’s a piece from Africa Check debunking similar claims of a “white genocide” in South Africa.

Forney’s “statistical evidence” that life was better for everyone under apartheid comes from a publication called “The New Observer.” To get an idea of what sort of publication this is, here are some of the top stories on the site at the moment:

  • Liberals Aghast as US’s “25 Most Dangerous Neighborhoods” All Happen to be Black
  • The Extermination of Whites in Europe: “We Are the Last 3 German Children in Our School.”
  • If White Americans Don’t Start Having Babies Now, the US Will Vanish by 2100

Here’s another Africa Check piece that takes on widely disseminated Facebook post that also claims things were better under apartheid.

Forney’s “statistical evidence” that “[u]nder Nelson Mandela and his successors, South Africa became the rape capital of the world” is a link to an article in World Net Daily about a single serial rapist in South Africa. There are no statistics in it.

While it’s a bit ironic to see Forney — an admitted girlfriend-abuser who once wrote that “[w]omen should be terrorized by their men [because] it’s the only thing that makes them behave better than chimps” — grandstanding about violence against women, it’s actually rather hard to track down reliable statistics about rape in South Africa, much less statistics about rape during apartheid, because back then the white authorities didn’t exactly give a shit about black victims of rape.

Many of those who’ve studied the culture of rape in South Africa argue that the country’s history of apartheid made the problem far, far worse, engendering “an exaggerated culture of aggression and male dominance, among both black and white,” as one researcher has argued.

My favorite tweet of the bunch, though, is this one:

Yeah. Screw Anne Frank, too. All she did was sit around in that dumb attic.

Here’s “Free Nelson Mandela,” by the Special AKA. When it came out, I never believed it would ever come true.

RIP.

EDITED TO ADD:  Thanks to @HamSushi on Twitter for pointing me to Forney’s lovely tweets!

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Posted on December 5, 2013, in are these guys 12 years old?, attention seeking, matt forney, oppressed white men, playing the victim, PUA, racism, rape, red pill and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 186 Comments.

  1. But if I drop a child repeatedly on its head and it lives it might turn out like her…

    (Too grim?)

    In other news, I suspect that she may have a pair of hungry ghosts stalking her. She can call them nǎinai and yéye to be polite, but I don’t think that’s going to make them any less pissed off.

  2. http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.com/2009/10/japanese-men-gone-girly-japanese-girls.html

    As someone who lived in Japan for several years, I can say that article displays an almost complete lack of understanding of the gender dynamics in Japan. There’s many reasons for the declining rate of marriage in Japan ranging from women seeking greater independence, to the economy just being bad because of continuing fallout from the 90′s economic bust and people not wanting to start a family until they can afford to be financially independent. Putting on something as trivial as men not being “manly’ in the western sense is absurd, especially because they have a different standard of attractive for men there, which actually tends to be rather feminine.

  3. How is men not eating meat bad? I don’t care if she’s not vegetarian, but that just doesn’t make sense. “Men trying not to hurt living things? How immoral!”

  4. Bina – she could end up Giant Kitty of Cuteness, then!

    How lucky she turned up and you were able to adopt her (or be adopted by her).

    PUAs going in packs, now? I thought they were all about competing with each other? How can they tell their True Facts Stories about their success rate when they’re all trying their bullshit on the same women?

    Of course it does point to another thing behind these alleged attempts to get dates/sex: they’re not really trying to at all, it’s just about frightening and harassing women. They really haven’t changed* since they were in school, bullying the girls.

    *including their underwear, probably.

  5. In other news, I suspect that she may have a pair of hungry ghosts stalking her. She can call them nǎinai and yéye to be polite, but I don’t think that’s going to make them any less pissed off.

    moar info plz!

  6. How is men not eating meat bad? I don’t care if she’s not vegetarian, but that just doesn’t make sense. “Men trying not to hurt living things? How immoral!”

    Finer points of the traditional gender dynamic in Japan are harder to explain, but certain diatary habits are considered to be masculine (e.g. eating mostly meat, drinking alcohol, favoring umami-tasting foods) while others are traditionally feminine (vegetarianism, dislike towards things like alcohol and cigarettes, a preference towards sweets). The article she links to doesn’t actually take the stance that men changing their habits to be more feminine is a bad thing though, and in fact it says

    All in all, though, Morioka sees the soshokukei phenomenon in a positive light, saying that it is a sign of society becoming more tolerant of individual differences among men.
    “Men should diversify,” he said. “It’s good for both men and the society if more men are freed from fixed values.”

    She interpreted it to be bad from the perspective of an outsider unaccustomed to Japanese culture.

  7. PUAs going in packs, now? I thought they were all about competing with each other? How can they tell their True Facts Stories about their success rate when they’re all trying their bullshit on the same women?

    Of course it does point to another thing behind these alleged attempts to get dates/sex: they’re not really trying to at all, it’s just about frightening and harassing women. They really haven’t changed* since they were in school, bullying the girls.

    *including their underwear, probably.

    I think this PUA meetup may have been some kind of contest, to see who could harass the most women in a given time frame, and the same ones kept getting hit on because they happened to be in the wrong place, alone, at the wrong time… I dunno. I’m just glad I haven’t been to the Eaton Centre since the mid-1990s…and if those guys had tried that shit on me while I was taking Wen-Do classes, they’d have all ended up with cracked collarbones. I suppose the prospect of hitting on a woman who’s learned self-defence and isn’t afraid to use it in practice has never occurred to them…

  8. Now that’s a scenario for a video game I could get into – Whack-a-PUA (not blow to smithereens, just frighten the crap out of him).

  9. It would be hilarious if we started seeing “No Pick-Up” signs in public places – like No Smoking signs, but aimed at PUAs, who’re far more irritating than smokers.

    (I’ve heard that these already exist in one bar district in Tokyo.)

  10. I hope there’s strict enforcement of no-pickup zones, if that ever comes to pass. BTW, I suspect these harassholes picked this time of year because of all the holiday shoppers…they probaby figure on good odds of finding lone ladies in the mall right now.

  11. Some signs:

    No Pickups

    No PUAs

    No MRAs

    What are you doing here, I thought you were GYOW?

  12. What are you doing here, I thought you were GYOW?

    Snicker…oh, if only they would. And STFU about it, too. Just go, and never be seen or heard from again.

  13. kittehs – True. People who say that the disabled are not worthy to live are assholes, and unworthy of the honor of scratching behind my ears. This is now final.

    *bangs gavel*

  14. Correct! I submit to this excellent judgement from the bench.*

    *the one with the comfy cushion and tapestry cover for stropping claws

  15. Argenti Aertheri

    Um, I’m not sure a “no pick-up zone” sign would get the PUA point across, seeing how “no drop-off zones” are a thing — the vast majority of people would likely assume it refers to passenger egress from a motor vehicle. (Ah egress, the Latin verb behind that is FUCKING HELL to conjugate)

  16. I thought much the same about the no drop-off zones sign – though I think I’ve seen more “drop off only” types, at hospitals and so on.

    Mind you “drop off zone” would have a nice double meaning for telling PUAs to piss off.

  17. Um, I’m not sure a “no pick-up zone” sign would get the PUA point across, seeing how “no drop-off zones” are a thing— the vast majority of people would likely assume it refers to passenger egress from a motor vehicle.

    I thought these signs were going to be inside the mall. Theres not usually motor vehicles operating in the mall.

  18. Argenti Aertheri

    Ah, yeah, they could work indoors. Though I beg to differ about motor vehicles in malls, mall security here sometimes has golf cart like things.

  19. Yeah, but signage wouldn’t apply to them anyway.

  20. I believe the signage in Japan was using the word “nanpa” which is a lot more specific than “pick-up”, so the meaning of saying “don’t do that here” would be clear.

  21. Mnemosyne:

    Where do people keep getting the idea that white people are going to disappear? The way I see it, from a genetic perspective, fair-skinned people will always exist in some form because the alleles that code for it won’t go away. Maybe White Nationalists should take Genetics 101 again and pay attention this time around.

    The fundamental problem here isn’t the failure in genetics but the belief that “original races” (as in historically known populations with certain allelic frequencies) are distinct and unique. Then, if you have a blended population, it’s not the same as the original races, regardless of what individual recombinations there might be. This same White Nationalist thinking also applies to culture, often without much bothering to distinguish it from race.

    Then, who cares that by this thinking, original non-white races and cultures also go extinct due to blending? If your worldview is very white-focused, racial blending might look like generic “colored” people are taking over the world and your own society. It’s all the more tragedy if you conciously believe that your own people are better than those others.

    Also, while some White Nationalists think the world will be racially mixed by 2100 or so, others don’t even consider the implications of racial mixing. They see things in Black and White, and they note that “white” populations generally have birthrates below replacement. This will logically eventually lead to white extinction sometime before the heat death of universe. Who cares that some small white populations like in Iceland still reproduce vigorously.

    Then, if you believe that white people are the upholders of civilization, you will be very worried about the diminishing presence (both physical, cultural and political) of white people, both globally and in your own country. Who cares if in year 3000, there are still a few million white people (even not counting Iceland!) or that whites make up some 10% of the ancestry of Brave New Humanity. For all White Nationalist intents and purposes, white people will have gone extinct.

  22. Re anti-PUA signage: Something with a crossed-out graphic of a man accosting a woman would probably be in order, too.

  23. (Preferably with the dude wearing one of those silly trilby hats.)

  24. I vote for a “no peacocking” sign, with a silhouette of Mystery and his ridiculous hat

  25. @Arctic Ape

    All I can say is: good riddance.

  26. That particular mall is a site of PUA pilgrimage, for there Owen “TylerDurden” Cooke honed his art in ancient times. The late 90s to Project Hollywood of 2003.

  27. moldybred: I the only person who hears ‘Chicago’ and immediately thinks of the song in the movie Victor/Victoria?

    I know the song, but I don’t think of it. On my list of things to do is see the original film Victor/Victoria was made from (A german film, from 1934).

  28. Oh look who’s back. And trying to sound smart. Run along now Eurosabra.

  29. Eurosabra’s still here? I thought he buggered off for clubs unknown ages ago.

  30. Go the fuck away, Eurosabra.

  31. The idea of PUAs conducting a pilgrimage to a mall is appropriately pathetic, though.

  32. As the resident newbie, who is Eurosabra?

  33. Alice, he’s a PUA who thinks “mild gaslighting” in order to get his dick web is a morally acceptable thing.

  34. Sad bastard who turns up whenever we talk about anything PUA-related.

  35. Ahhh.

    Also, WTF, how is gaslighting acceptable, like ever? Abuse is not cool.

  36. You should read that thread if someone can find it. It was a great guide to all the reasons why PUA gurus are despicable people.

  37. Alice, he’s a PUA who thinks “mild gaslighting” in order to get his dick web is a morally acceptable thing.

    Dick web is a wonderful typo. I’m thinking cobwebs from lack of use.

    ::snicker::

  38. How does one get a dick web, anyways? Do you stick it in a spinneret, which just so happens to be a woman’s vagina? Do you fuck spiders (owww)? Do you bang on top of a coffin in a really old and abandoned tomb with hundreds of skulls staring at you? What?

  39. I was thinking that Dick Web would be a good name for the part of the internet dedicated to porn.

  40. Oops. Accidentally appropriate typos. XD

  41. It could give a whole new meaning to that Dr Who story The Web of Fear.

  42. Maybe it will revert back to it’s original name of Turtle Island?

  43. That particular mall is a site of PUA pilgrimage, for there Owen “TylerDurden” Cooke honed his art in ancient times. The late 90s to Project Hollywood of 2003.

    Can’t help the image dudebros skittering back and forth to touch a female mannequin, in lieu of a Monolith.

  44. Can’t help the image dudebros skittering back and forth to touch a female mannequin, in lieu of a Monolith.

    That’s probably as close as any of ‘em gets to touching a woman who doesn’t immediately back away or throw a drink in their faces.

  45. So touching the computer screen displaying the image of a hot female doesn’t count? DAMN IT!

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