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A Voice for Men’s head boys reach new heights of narcissistic delusion

They're so happy!
They’re so happy!

Let’s say — speaking hypothetically here — that you’re the head of what is probably the most prominent Men’s Rights website. A major national publication has just done a piece on the MRM. While sympathetic towards many of the issues MRAs sometimes talk about, the piece highlights the misogyny within the movement — focusing particularly on some of the hateful stuff  that regularly appears on your website.

The piece also contains an extended profile of your site’s “Editor In Chief,” which portrays him as someone who, while having a certain charisma, is an angry, paranoid fanatic and a compulsive liar. The piece ends by suggesting that “radicals” like those on your website are doing your movement more harm than good, and notes that those who are doing the real work of helping men in need don’t want anything to do with the Men’s Rights movement.

Well, if you’re Paul Elam of A Voice for Men, you celebrate, because in the midst of all this, the author of the piece calls you “the closest thing the movement has to a rock star.” No, really.

Those interested in the psychology of narcissistic self-delusion may wish to set aside some time to watch the video below, in which the three dudes at the top of the A Voice for Men masthead  — Paul Elam, John Hembling, and Dean Esmay — discuss R. Tod Kelly’s recent piece about the Men’s Rights movement.

I took the time to watch the whole thing the other night — well, to listen to it while playing Candy Crush, to be completely honest — and it is filled with astonishing moments. For those who don’t have the time or psychic energy to listen to the whole thing, I will provide some details below.

The tone of the video is, overall, one of jocularity; three very self-satisfied guys basking in self-praise and talking shit about women they hate.

The two most revealing moments come relatively early on in the more than hour-long video; if you watch nothing else in this video, make sure to watch these.

At 9:25 Dean brings up Kelly’s characterization of Elam as a “rock star.” (Technically, Kelly called him “the closest thing to a rock star” in the MRM, but let’s not split hairs.) Elam responds with some of the least convincing false modesty I think I’ve ever seen; it’s clear he’s pleased as punch. Just watch it.

Several minutes later, starting at about 12:22, the gang moves on to Kelly’s characterization of Hembling as a “superstar.” (Technically, Kelly said that Hembling was “well on his way to being [the MRM’s] first superstar,” but what’s a little hyperbole amongst friends?) Like Elam, Hembling affects a certain false modesty, pretending to be oh-shucks embarrassed by the attention, but he too is bursting with pride.

At one point he makes a reference to a famous line from Monty Python’s Life of Brian — “He’s not the messiah! He’s a very naughty boy!” — suggesting that he may have convinced himself that Kelly has proclaimed him not just a superstar but Jesus Christ Superstar.

Hembling — who is the A Voice for Menner that Kelly portrayed as a fanatic who seems to have more than a little bit of trouble with the truth  — never really addresses Kelly’s accounts of some of his most dubious claims — his story of being confronted by a mob of boxcutter-weilding feminists, which seems to have been a largely peaceful encounter with a tiny handful of activists who did nothing more threatening than taking down some posters; and his story of intervening to stop a rape in progress, which appears to be a complete fabrication.

But, at about 23 minutes into the discussion, he does address — sort of — an infamous old video of his in which he declared that “I … don’t give a fuck about rape victims any more.” Hembling’s explanation is a little less than coherent, and seems to consist of three main assertions.

  1. He did it a long time ago, when he had very few subscribers, and when he didn’t even really think of himself as a Men’s Rights activist, no wait, he probably did think of himself that way.
  2. It was “hyperbolic parody” — a rather strange way to describe an angry video that contains not one element of parody at all.
  3. Evil feminists goaded him into it by calling him a rape apologist.

Despite all this, he doesn’t really renounce or apologize for the video.

Elam, for his part, seems to think that Hembling is being much too apologetic. At about 27:30  he jumps into the discussion, defending Hembling’s video.“We’re not the world’s unpaid bodyguards,” he declares. After mocking 20/20 correspondent Elizabeth Vargas for telling him that she would intervene if she saw a rape in progress, he announces:

I don’t find it particularly hyperbolic for a man to say I’m not going to give a damn about female rape victims any more. They have tons of money, of law enforcement, of special programs funded by government, of social consciousness; schools have Take Back the Night rallies, everything you can possibly think of …

I stand behind John for making that video. I don’t know if I would take it down. I don’t blame him for doing it.

At about 35 minutes into the video, the three move on to talking about some of the women that internet misogynists — some of them Men’s Rights activists, many of them not — have targeted for harassment in recent years, most notably Anita Sarkeesian, known for her videos critiquing sexist tropes in the video games, and feminist “skepchick” Rebecca Watson, who’s been harassed for several years for the crime of once complaining about a dude who propositioned her in an elevator at 4 AM. .

The Daily Beast article touched briefly on the harassment directed at Watson, and AVFM’s contribution to the hostile climate she faced and still faces online; as Kelly points out, Elam described her as a “lying whore” and Hembling made several distinctly misleading videos about her. And while Kelly didn’t mention Sarkeesian, she is apparently going to be a central focus of the upcoming 20/20 story about the Manosphere.

The three AVFMers spout such a bunch of malignant nonsense on the topic of these women and the harassment they have faced that I feel it necessary to quote them at length.

At about 37 minutes in, the three are discussing Sarkeesian when one of them — my notes aren’t clear — brings up a favorite anti-Sarkeesian talking point: that she went onto 4chan to publicize her videos. At this point an indignant Dean Esmay launches into a rant:

Anyone who knows anything about 4chan knows that the whole culture on 4chan is that people love insulting each other, and insulting everything in the popular culture, and you win on 4chan by being the most offensive person. So just by going on 4chan you’re looking for that. You are asking for it. … And I don’t mean that in the “she was asking for it” [sense] but she was!

Aside from the victim blaming, there is one other big problem with this argument: it doesn’t seem to be, you know, true. When I looked into this claim, the only “evidence” I could find was this thread on 4chan in which someone using the name of Anita Sarkeesian promotes her Kickstarter. But this “Anita Sarkeesian” explicitly says that they’re NOT actually Sarkeesian, and throughout the comments they refer to her in third person.

Back to the AVFM video, where Esmay is continuing his rant:

Esmay: And furthermore Anita Sarkeesian had a long history of closing comments on her videos so that no one who wanted to argue with her could rebut her, but amazingly when she started the kickstarter campaign she opened the gates and allowed all the commentary.

Elam: Just a coinicidence, I’m sure, Dean.

Esmay: Just a coinicidence. So anybody who ever had any anger at her suddenly had an outlet. She created a damsel in distress situation for herself.

That’s right. Closing her comments was an act of evil manipulation, leading to pent-up angry dude anger. And opening the comments up was an act of manipulation, by giving the angry dudes an outlet. Because clearly she wanted nothing more than to be harassed endlessly by angry dudes on the internet. Because women totally love that shit.

“But in any case,” Esmay asks,”is there a shred of evidence that that was mostly Men’s Rights Advocatists?”

Yes, he really says “advocatists.”

I don’t know about the “mostly, but there’s certainly plenty of hints that suggest MRAs were pretty heavily involved in the anti-Sarkeesian harassment. Like, for example, the fact that there have been 70 posts about Sarkeesian posted to the Men’s Rights subreddit, many of them receiving hundreds of upvotes and inspiring hundreds of comments of which most can be assumed to be hostile, at least based on the rather large sampling of them I’ve read over the months. And AVFM, while not quite this active on the anti-Sarkeesian front, did run as assortment of its own posts on the subject, with titles like “Anita Sarkeesian and the feminist war on facts” (a bit ironic, that) and “Anita Sarkeesian: still a moneygrubbing liar” (some irony there too, huh?).

Elam, for his part, claims there’s “no shred of evidence” that any of the “supposed threats” that Sarkeesian, Watson, or a particular red-haired Canadian activist AVFM has been fixated on came from MRAs. Well, given that a lot of these sorts of threats are, you know, anonymous, that is a little hard to prove, though when I looked at people making nasty and threatening remarks about the red-haired activist on YouTube I found that (at least in the cases of those I was able to find out any information about them) a significant minority of them seemed to be MRAs or at least regular readers of MRA and/or manosphere blogs  — and/or to be fans of the misogynistic asshole who calls himself the Amazing Atheist, a noxious YouTube personality that A Voice for Men has celebrated and linked to on more than a few occasions.

And then there‘s Elam‘s characterization of Watson as a “lying whore,” a characterization he is more than happy to repeat several times on the video.

At about 41 minutes in, Hembling then tells an assortment of untruths about the now infamous elevatorgate incident that led to years of harassment directed at Watson. Having just had some of his most famous untruths publicly exposed to a national audience, you would think Hembling might want to be a bit more careful about his factchecking. Nope.

Hembling: There was a convention in Ireland I believe, where late at night in the hotel convention center she got on an elevator after being in the bar quite late and someone from the convention approached her in the elevator and said “I think you’re very interesting and attractive and would you like to come and have coffee in my room, which is obviously code for let’s get naked and hump.

[At this point Elam lets out a cackle[

Hembling: Obviously he was drunk, possibly blind drunk.

Elam: [Laughs uproariously] It was Irish coffee.

Hembling: Watson then went online and did a video admonishing the male members of the atheist community, of which she was a part, “guys don’t do that,” and characterized this conversation in the elevator as if it was some sort of great, terrible, frightening threat, and crafted her victimhood out of that, and essentially used that story to launch a professional speaking career on the atheist circuit.

Cool story, except for the fact that Watson actually did none of those things beyond the bit about saying “guys, don’t do that.” Here’s a transcript of what she actually did say, which I found here in about 30 seconds by typing the words “rebecca watson transcript elevatorgete video” — typo and all — into a very helpful internet site you may have heard of called Google. Watson was mentioning how much she had enjoyed talking to everyone after her presentation at the conference

except for the one man who, um, didn’t really grasp, I think, what I was saying on the panel…? Because, um, at the bar later that night—actually, at four in the morning—um, we were at the hotel bar, 4am, I said, you know, “I’ve had enough, guys, I’m exhausted, going to bed,” uh, so I walked to the elevator, and a man got on the elevator with me, and said, “Don’t take this the wrong way, but I find you very interesting, and I would like to talk more; would you like to come to my hotel room for coffee?”

Um. Just a word to the wise here, guys: Uhhhh, don’t do that. Um, you know. [laughs] Uh, I don’t really know how else to explain how this makes me incredibly uncomfortable, but I’ll just sort of lay it out that I was a single woman, you know, in a foreign country, at 4am, in a hotel elevator with you, just you, and—don’t invite me back to your hotel room, right after I’ve finished talking about how it creeps me out and makes me uncomfortable when men sexualize me in that manner.

That’s it. Being propositioned by a guy alone in an elevator at 4 AM made her feel “incredibly uncomfortable.” No elevation of the proposition into a “great, terrible, frightening threat.” No elaborate narrative of victimhood. Just her saying: hey, this makes me uncomfortable. The reaction to these remarks are what caused the Elevatorgate shitstorm, which is evidently still ongoing, as evidenced by Mr. Hembling’s desire to retell the — false — narrative of the evil Watson.

Indeed, Hembling actually thinks that the incident never happened, because Watson never named the dude. And so Watson’s seemingly innocent remarks, at the end of an informal, unscripted video, were apparently part of her secret master plan to take over the atheist universe.

It’s just a story to further this narrative of victimhood that Watson used to launch this speaking career and make herself supposedly famous and important.

Projection ain’t just something they do in movie theaters.

Enjoy your time in the limelight, fellas! You’re really, truly not doing yourself or your ostensible movement any favors. Maybe someday you will realize this. But probably not.

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Hyena Girl
Hyena Girl
7 years ago

It’s almost like they are completely unaware that Rebecca Watson was a notable atheist and skeptical speaker well before “Elevatorgate” occurred.

MrFancyPants
MrFancyPants
7 years ago

Hembling actually thinks that the incident never happened, because Watson never named the dude.

Of course, if she had named him, they would have been screaming DOXXING! MISANDRY! And she totally should have, you know, because the situation she described was sooooo implausible and never happens, right?

dlouwe
dlouwe
7 years ago

As much as I love “Men’s Rights Advocatists”, I much prefer “Men’s Rights Advocados”.

Hyena Girl
Hyena Girl
7 years ago

Many Rabid Armadillos

Jesse James
7 years ago

You mad bro?

I know this will get blocked and deleted, but I bet you will read it manbooby.

People are going to figure your website out, and you are not the harbinger of truth either. You mischaracterize the men’s movement a lot. Your inability to see the facts that are identifiable, like men being denied custody simply for being men, and your inability to see that the reason these women run to you is because you are the ideological dog they all know they can kick.

They don’t come here because you speak the truth, they come here because you tell them what they want to hear. Your a fake, a phony, and soon the movement will roll over you and your pansy parade of bon bon eating harpies.

All I have left to say is Meow, Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow…BONG, Happy Wok.

grumpycatisagirl
7 years ago

Ugh, Mr. Elam said “feminist industry.” That’s one of my biggest peeves (I’m not going to call it a pet peeve because I like pets).

MaudeLL
7 years ago

Slightly OT, but I do find Esmay to be an odd one. He can be an incredible asshole sometimes, but other times he gives me the impression that he actually gives a shit about some men issues (as opposed to Elam and Hembling). For example, he’s one of the rare popular MRAs who seem to be fairly consistent denouncing the stigma around men victims of rape. Elam and Hembling might claim they care once in a while, but it’s usually not too far from a male rape ‘joke’, especially if it’s a man with whom they disagree. I’ve also read some comment exchange between Esmay and feminists, and he can be pretty level headed and respectful sometimes.

Anyway. I was just in the mood of saying something positive for once (I might have missed some of his stuff that would negate what he seems to think about men victim of rape or sexual harrassment, however. He just strikes me as slightly more compassionate than the other clowns [my apologies to clowns]).

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

“Advocatists.”

They are so inarticulate.

What a circle jerk that was.

Alice Sanguinaria
7 years ago

Sometimes you have to wonder whether these are all Poes.

Then you remember that they’re the people who called for October to be Bash a Bitch Month and upkeep a site that’s intended to harass and intimidate women into silence.

entropistanon
7 years ago

Well, when you want to think of yourself as Broseph Stalin, Defender of the Broletariat, is there any better way to feed those delusions than twisting the words of an article not COMPLETELY denouncing you as worthless? I mean, really, are they ever going to get any surer praise from a mainstream article than “I guess there are some points in there that are worth considering, but they seem to shoot themselves in the foot an awful lot…”?

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
7 years ago

37 minutes in and you’re still watching? Key-riste! I wouldn’t watch five minutes of those asshats!

cloudiah
7 years ago

As much as I love “Men’s Rights Advocatists”, I much prefer “Men’s Rights Advocados”.

Made me LOL.

BabyLawyer
BabyLawyer
7 years ago

As much as I love “Men’s Rights Advocatists”, I much prefer “Men’s Rights Advocados”.

Mens Rights Avocados? Misandric Guacamole?

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

Broseph Stalin, Defender of the Broletariat

I am so stealing that.

Quackers
Quackers
7 years ago

Watch JtO rationalize it all away in his recent video. The feminists called him a rape apologist, they made him say it!!!

eseldbosustow
7 years ago

I’m stealing that too.

entropistanon
7 years ago

No, no! Don’t steal my puns! They’re all I have left!

Oh wait, I’ve still got the internet kittens. Never mind, steal away.

Quackers
Quackers
7 years ago

by his logic on why he made the video, I shouldn’t care about about any issues that affect men. You know why? because MRAs have done nothing but hurl the most vicious insults towards feminists and women (and yes, they do use the two terms interchangeably, I see this every damn day)

In fact, let me paraphrase, in his words from the video in question, what in his reasoning, he thinks is ok to say, but about female victims only:

“I lie this blame on you MRAs, you have so long replayed this mantra that all feminists are evil and all women are coniving…that’s all I’ve heard from your camp for the entire 3 years I’ve read MRA sites, and I can no longer find myself giving a shit, I don’t give a flying fuck about male victims, and YOU are the cause, you have numbed me because your endless repetition of this mantra that feminists are all misandrist hitler kkk’s and women are all victimizers and men are all victims, I don’t give a fuck! So if I encounter a male being victimized in the real world, am I going to stop it? no, I’m going to walk around it…why? wouldn’t a decent woman stop it? but that’s a decent woman by your definition.”

I’ve been numbed by MRA accusations and demonization of feminists and women. Thus I don’t care about male victimization.

Now I suppose MRAs will think this is a perfectly reasonable response and will just let it slide eh?

Oh wait, no, they wont. Because they are a bunch of hypocrites.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
7 years ago

@MaudeLL

I’ve noticed that too, but he’s a huge hypocrite. Watch this video on YouTube and look at the top comments:

“I have in the past argued with my fellow MRAs that bashing all feminists across the board is not constructive, but I have also given them this: if more self-identified feminists (such as yourself) do not step up to the plate and call out the hateful hatemongering bigots in the feminist movement, then people who call themselves feminists are going to take shit for it. I applaud you for it; there don’t seem to be enough willing to take a stand like you.”

Dean has never “called out” any hateful MRAs. Instead he’ll say it’s not anyone’s job to police the MRM. He’s infuriating.

Quackers
Quackers
7 years ago

6oodfella 23 minutes ago
I’m not keen on helping the type of person who would publicly laugh out loud if they heard that a woman mutilated me. Burn. fall, drown, if I don’t know you, you’re on your own.

Fine, I’ll be sure to do the same to MRAs based on the things they’ve said about people like me, comments like these.

OH NO I WON’T BECAUSE I’M NOT A HORRIBLE PERSON WHO THINKS PEOPLE I DON’T LIKE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BURN/FALL/DROWN.

often_partisan
often_partisan
7 years ago

“Broseph Stalin, Defender of the Broletariat”

Okay that’s hilarious.

SittieKitty
7 years ago

Y’all are so insulting to avocados and armadillos! They aren’t even close to the crusty scum on a pile of shit that these people are. I’ll even argue that shit is better than them, I deal with it semi-regularly and would much rather be doing that then deal with them.

Anenome
Anenome
7 years ago

Elam and Esmay are failed writers, Hembling I’m not sure about.

They firmly believe all publicity is good publicity. And, of course, Hembling and Elam are salaried.

They’re delusional, for sure, but they are kings in the tiny, sad, introspective, ineffectual, stunted fiefdom that is avfm.

Anenome
Anenome
7 years ago

Btw, the still that’s the main photo in this article – Elam as Christopher Moltisanti from the Sopranos? Or at least his older, less attractive uncle?

Brooked
Brooked
7 years ago

Your inability to see the facts that are identifiable, like men being denied custody simply for being men, and your inability to see that the reason these women run to you is because you are the ideological dog they all know they can kick.

They don’t come here because you speak the truth, they come here because you tell them what they want to hear. Your a fake, a phony, and soon the movement will roll over you and your pansy parade of bon bon eating harpies

Something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
‘Cause I’ll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against ’em

Fist in ya face, in the place
And I’ll drop the style clearly
Know your enemy…Know your enemy!
Yeah!

Hey yo, and dick with this…uggh!
Word is born
Fight the war, fuck the norm
Now I got no patience
So sick of complacence
With the D the E the F the I the A the N the C the E
Mind of a revolutionary
So clear the lane
The finger to the land of the chains
What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy?

Ally S
7 years ago

I don’t find it particularly hyperbolic for a man to say I’m not going to give a damn about female rape victims any more. They have tons of money, of law enforcement, of special programs funded by government, of social consciousness; schools have Take Back the Night rallies, everything you can possibly think of …
I stand behind John for making that video. I don’t know if I would take it down. I don’t blame him for doing it.

Huh. Here I was thinking that the reason it’s good to support female rape victims is that they deserve support just like all other victims of crime. Elam is such a smart and compassionate guy.

grumpycatisagirl
7 years ago

“All I have left to say is Meow, Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow…BONG, Happy Wok”

LOL . . .?

Also, interesting how I am able to see that comment that was surely blocked and deleted. Ingesting bons bons gives me some kind of misandric ESP.

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
7 years ago

@Jesse James

You’re a poe, right? “Bon bon eating harpies” and all the meowing really gave you away.

If you’re not, then you’re silly and you should feel silly.

freemage
freemage
7 years ago

grumpycatisagirl: So that’s why I could see it, too–you’re beaming it into my brain, right? ‘Cause I found that so confusing. (Of course, I’m sure Mr. James is just patting himself on the back in self-adulation because he ‘forced’ David to air his post, not understanding that such inept writing is exactly the sort of thing we like to mock around here. It’s almost like he’s doing us a kindness, serving up a nice small plateful of incoherent whining that’s so easily dismissed. Dance for us, Monkey James, dance!)

baileyrenee
baileyrenee
7 years ago

Fact: If you really want something to be posted, just say “I know this won’t get posted.”

Ally S
7 years ago

People are going to figure your website out, and you are not the harbinger of truth either. You mischaracterize the men’s movement a lot. Your inability to see the facts that are identifiable, like men being denied custody simply for being men, and your inability to see that the reason these women run to you is because you are the ideological dog they all know they can kick.

Speaking of inaccurate characterization, you’ve just implied that everyone here is a woman.

Brooked
Brooked
7 years ago

@Ally S: you don’t buy Elem’s idea that America if a veritable female rape victim wonderland, akin to Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory?

Tracy
Tracy
7 years ago

Meow, Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow…BONG, Happy Wok.

Dibs on this as my new band name. Though I’m concerned it won’t fit on a t-shirt.

MMmmmmBHW would fit, but is it catchy?

I’ve read comments from Esmay over on Ally Fogg’s site, and he is articulate and generally non-frothy there. He seems like he’d be a reasonable person, until he says things like “if more self-identified feminists (such as yourself) do not step up to the plate and call out the hateful hatemongering bigots in the feminist movement, then people who call themselves feminists are going to take shit for it.” without even a whiff of irony.

I kind of like ‘advocatists’. It’s kinda like ‘truthiness’.

Toddles Manboob
Toddles Manboob
7 years ago

Jesus, I’m only half watching bits of this, and there’s still so much there that you don’t even get around to (this would be the longest blog post ever if you unpacked every screwy thing).

– Elam, in his defense of John’s ‘I don’t care about rape victims’, segueing into how Vargas would get beaten up if she intervened in a rape and all three of them chuckling over that (try to reconcile that with John’s dismissal of Rebecca Watson ‘claiming’ to find being propositioned in an elevator at 4 AM frightening).

– Elam objecting to the characterization of the ‘lying whore’ line because he meant a DIFFERENT type of whore, and then going on about the numerous different types of whores, neither he nor the others at any point managing the really quite limited degree of self-awareness required to ask why they’re so obsessed with ‘whores’ as a concept.

– Another triumph of self-criticism when John goes from saying Watson is overblowing a completely innocuous incident to espousing the belief she made it up entirely for propaganda purposes, never asking why she wouldn’t have at tossed in some groping at the very least.

– How obviously feigned is basically everything about John’s delivery style? From his awkward swearing during his moment of false modestly (“fucking ridiculous!” Whoa, really? Talk about not taking a compliment) to the shakespeareian pause and gaze into the distance when he thinks back on whether or not he was an MRA when he made his rape vid. His stilted, seemingly rehearsed affectations speak volumes about how concerned he is with others’ perception.

SpleenyBaggage
SpleenyBaggage
7 years ago

I just learned something about myself: here I was thinking that I was pretty much numbed to all the garbage these guys spout, and how generally repulsive they are, and yet when I tried to watch that video, the very sight of them made me feel sick. Like, actually sick. That’s some powerful movement they’ve got there – just a pity that its only power is to nauseate, rather than do any good in the world.

misterantimra
7 years ago

It’s amazing that MRAs almost never talk about men, and overwhelmingly focus on women. Obvious, I know. If I had the patience and the stomach for it I’d watch the entire vid with a stopwatch, timing how much of the video they spend talking about men or “men’s issues”. I bet it’s about 10% of the time.

Hry
Hry
7 years ago

Your a fake, a phony, and soon the movement will roll over you and your pansy parade of bon bon eating harpies.

… Just as soon as it figures out how to deploy the correct form of you’re and your in any given sentence.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

Jesse: your post got through! FREEZE PEACH rides on!

What a fucking moron.

serrana
serrana
7 years ago

All I have left to say is Meow, Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow…BONG, Happy Wok.

So, come home from work, pet the kitty, smoke some weed, and go out for Chinese food? That sounds like my kind of Tuesday night!

scarlettpipstrelle
7 years ago

Wow, the old saying is wrong, there IS such a thing as bad publicity. Just don’t try to tell that to our matinee idols.

serrana
serrana
7 years ago

Although at my house it’s more like meow meow meow meow…CORK POP, Happy Pizza.

kittehserf
7 years ago

At my house it’s meow meow meow all right I’ll give you food/clean your litter, never mind that my dinner’s getting cold

La Strega
7 years ago

These guys are like the ultimate anti-aphrodesiacs, aren’t they? Their videos could be used as part of an aversive therapy program for sex-addicted hetero women. Think about sex w/ JtO = experience overwhelming nausea = never be horny again.

Cthulhu's Intern
7 years ago

I don’t find it surprising that this is how they react to this. They aren’t a real social movement and they know it. For them, any publicity is good publicity. It’s like when a guy does something stupid and embarrassing and the Internet laughs at it, then the guy keeps referencing it. Like how Blake Boston absolutely loves that he’s the real Scumbag Steve. In a real social movement, there IS bad publicity. But for them, since they’re not really a social movement, they think this is awesome. Paul Elam is probably going to continue calling himself a rockstar.

Lili Fugit
Lili Fugit
7 years ago

Jesse, I was midscreech with laughter but a bonbon got caught in my craw. Well played, sir. Well played.

takshak
takshak
7 years ago

great, now I want bon-bons.

Defender of the Broletariat

that is so stolen.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
7 years ago

“Broseph Stalin, Defender of the Broletariat” Adorable.

They really have made it to the mainstream media now and they are just as proud of themselves as they can be. Once again demonstrating that ignorance is bliss.

kittehserf
7 years ago

Once again demonstrating that ignorance is bliss.

Heheh, even then, they manage to get it wrong. With their levels of ignorance they should be permanently blissed-out, but for the most part, they’re as miserable a crew as one could imagine.

Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Mango Rights Activist
Mangos (are) Really Awful

Let the MRA infighting commence anew! XD (yeah I’m refusing to acknowledge the horrible, I still have that cute platypus and her belly rubs stuck in my head)

Ally S
7 years ago

Mismangony could be the term for hatred for mangoes.

Pecunium, you rotten mismangonist!