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“Pregnancy is No Excuse For Misandry” and other pithy, baffling slogans from the Men’s Rights propaganda squad

pregnancy is no excuse for misandry

A real Mens Rights poster from deviantART

Pity the poor Men’s Rights activists. The real civil rights movements that MRAs like to compare their, er, “struggle” to may have faced many obstacles that MRAs haven’t — from legal prohibitions on voting to fire bombings and assassinations  — but at least they haven’t had a hard time explaining just what it was, and is, that they’re seeking redress for.

When Martin Luther King so famously dreamt of a world in which “my four little children will … not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character” he was not only speaking eloquently; he was expressing an idea that was, well, pretty easy to understand.

And that’s where the trouble comes for the MRAs. It’s a bit harder to explain your alleged anti-oppression movement to the general public when the people on whose behalf you’re fighting aren’t actually, you know, oppressed. So is it any wonder that MRAs have such a hard time explaining themselves to the public?

I mean, all the Suffragettes had to put on their posters was “Votes for Women.” MRAs are stuck. Men already have votes. They already have civil rights. Heck, men already run most companies and hold most political offices and control most of the world’s wealth.

And so MRA propaganda tends to be muddled, a weird mixture of misogyny and special pleading and stuff that just doesn’t make any sort of sense no matter how you slice it. In earlier posts we’ve looked at baffling and/or offensive posters from A Voice for Men and associated sites, as well as at some of the awful graphics that sometimes make their appearance on Reddit.

Today, a quick stroll through the MRA underground on deviantART.

The graphic at the top of the post is from someone calling himself awesomeninja; for his propaganda work, he specializes in somewhat baffling text-based graphics in basic colors.  Apparently he has convinced himself that “feminazis use child-bearing all the time to defend their sexist views,” and feels it is necessary to respond to this in giant letters in several colors with a black background.

He is also responsible for this similarly befuddling contribution to political art:

if feminism is about equality then why are so many feminists against men's rights activists

Wait, is this a trick question?

Dude, have you actually met any Men’s Rights Activists?

Oh, wait, you are one. Oops.

But wait, there’s more:

proud to be a white heterosexual male

Of course, awesomeninja isn’t the only one spreading the MRA message of love on deviantART. Here are a few other graphics I found by searching for “men’s rights” and related tags on the site.

This lovely “stamp” from loqutor, who has convinced himself he is “debunking an ages-old feminist myth” with it.

dearcunt

A meme from Userbruiser, who apparently thinks that if a woman has alcohol in her system, it’s ok to rape her:

Raped_by_Userbruiser

This bizarre castration fantasy from the same lovely fellow:

Snip_by_Userbruiser

This rant posted by themodsquad, who also enjoys jokes about pedophilia and bestiality.

superior_lol_by_themodsquad-d2ygdyt

There’s some question about whether or not themodsquad came up with that all by himself, but this uglier and worse-written sequel seems pretty authentic to me:

women_are_attention_seekers_by_themodsquad-d2zpcke

Is he a “real” MRA or just a troll? I don’t know, but he does seem to be an authentic misogynistic asshole attention-seeker, and I’ve seen virtually every “argument” in the first graphic rehashed many times on assorted MRA sites; it’s pretty much standard-issue “we hunted the mammoth to feed you.”

Let’s close with several graphics from an aspiring Man Going His Own Way. millenia89 is proud of his own reproductive organs:

proud_owner_of_a_penis__black_by_millenia89-d3ct2hd

But he doesn’t seem to think too highly of most of his fellow male-identified penis-havers. Indeed, he believes most of his fellow men are like lemmings marching off a cliff — except for a tiny percentage of MGTOW like the two tiny fellows at the bottom right of the graphic below.

mgtow_lemmings_by_millenia89-d3e6eva

I know it seems confusing, but trust me, the MGTOW in this picture aren’t the ones going over the cliff, really. They’re the ones facing the other direction, underneath that little MGTOW sign.  No, not under the big MGTOW sign, under the little one. Just trust me on this one.

millenia89 is especially unimpressed with men who step in to “save a hoe,” like this fellow, whom he sees as a handy “personification” of the sort of  “manipulated tool” who, I guess, apparently likes women enough to help them out.  I’m not quite sure I get it. Apparently this picture is inherently hilarious because it’s a picture of a black guy with an odd smile in a weirdly inaccurate superman costume. Heck, even the font is wacky.

captain_save_a_hoe_by_millenia89-d3ct2vj

Millenia89 may not think much of most of his fellow men, but at least he doesn’t want to render them obsolete. Women, well, that’s another issue entirely, as this utopian paean to the glories of artificial wombs suggests:

artificial_wombs_by_millenia89-d4xtw4h

So awesomeninja thinks that “pregnancy is no excuse for misandry.” Millenia89 evidently hopes that in the future there will be no excuse for pregnancy itself.

This is how the Men’s Rights movement tries to explain itself to the world.

And MRAs wonder why their little movement has the reputation it does.

I was inspired to check out deviantART’s MRA community by some of the commenters here. Check out the comments in the “Feminist anti-obedience school” thread starting here to see some homegrown parodies of awesomeninja’s graphic works.

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Posted on September 24, 2013, in a voice for men, all about the menz, antifeminism, are these guys 12 years old?, artistry, crackpottery, drama kings, entitled babies, evil women, grandiosity, gross incompetence, hypocrisy, imaginary oppression, mansplaining, men invented everything, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, penises, playing the victim, racism, rape, rape culture, straw feminists, the c-word, we hunted the mammoth and tagged , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 705 Comments.

  1. Hmm, evidently haven’t fed the blockquote monster lately.

  2. Bonelady, hi! Have a Complimentary Welcome Package!

    Are you an osteoarchaeologist, by any chance?

    /Time Team fangirl (I love Jackie McKinley’s skull and crossbone gloves)

  3. Short time lurker and someone probably posted about her but what about Ada Lovelace.

  4. It’s only the sense of politeness which makes me feel like spamming the thread with TMI about my sexual preferences that’s preventing me from providing examples that counteract this lulzy comment from Good.

    Actually, I would say that this behavior serves to show women “hey, look at how much I can protect you. Look at how dominant I can be over other men, because I know that appeals to you”.

    Dominance does not appeal to me, at all, because I am not sexually or socially submissive by nature. In fact, as I was reading the thread I was watching YouTube videos on another tab and one of the ones that came up I favorited because it has one of my favorite celebrity hotties doing the pretend-gay fanservice thing with another guy. Guess which guy I wouldn’t kick out of bed? Hint – it’s not the one who’s taking the dominant role in that interaction.

  5. Stop being stupid stupid.

    Good: why can’t you be INTENTIONALLY hilarious?

  6. Maybe TMI will scare witlesstroll away, like bras and makeup do! :D

    For me, the idea of some man getting dominant in any context is a huge turnoff (hypothetically, obviously) because it screams UNTRUSTWORTHY. It’s inseparable from domineering in my mind, and that sets off all the alarms.

    Plus, going back to what LBT (I think) mentioned yesterday, and which we’ve all said before: why does a relationship have to have any “dominance” in it? I’m not talking about people whose kink that is, or like it that way, but the idea as a norm. A relationship with someone who has to be boss is a putrid idea to me.

  7. Sometimes he is funny funny. Unfortunately it’s when he’s trying to be serious serious.

  8. Maybe Dumb is scared that if he uses a comma, he’ll turn into Stripper Stalin.

    Which, I have to say, would be an improvement.

  9. David Futrelle,

    Man, these are stupid.

    About the MGTOW Lemmings one, does “Millenia89″ have any idea what kind of message he’s sending about a group of men people like him think we should be proud of?

  10. You know, I really don’t like having a boss. I tolerate it in a working context because it’s just one of those realities you have to deal with, but I don’t like it. I don’t really relish being the boss either, though I’m pretty good at it when I need to be. I prefer relationships that are balanced, where one person may dominate in one context and the other person in a different context but it all tends to balance out in the end, and nobody feels like they’re superior to the other person. Even in a kink context if I felt like I was genuinely superior to someone I wouldn’t want them for a play partner. Why would I want to introduce a dynamic that I dislike into my personal life?

    @ Kittehs

    OK, small TMI (tell me if this is getting annoying, I’m still in “yay he’s finally out of the army and can be hilarious and sexy and awesome on TV again!” mode), since this just came up on my playlist and it’s kind of relevant since it’s all about playing with ideas about gender. Members of 2 boy bands cover song/dance from girl band that’s with the same entertainment company they are, guy in the red pants is the one I wouldn’t kick out of bed. What appeals to me is that he’s clearly having way more fun than everyone else, he’s playing the part of the girl band member who at the time was rumored to be his girlfriend, and then at the end he forgets that he’s supposed to be playing femmey and uses his real (not at all feminine) voice.

  11. General Message which I’m putting here ‘cos it’s the busiest thread:

    Any Midwestern manboobzers (Illinois in particular) looking for cats or kittens to adopt? My gf there has had a couple of strays-plus-litters move into her yard, and much as she loves having them, that’s too many kitties for her to look after. The no-kill shelters in her area have been at capacity. If anyone is interested, let me know!

  12. know, I really don’t like having a boss. I tolerate it in a working context because it’s just one of those realities you have to deal with, but I don’t like it. I don’t really relish being the boss either, though I’m pretty good at it when I need to be. I prefer relationships that are balanced, where one person may dominate in one context and the other person in a different context but it all tends to balance out in the end, and nobody feels like they’re superior to the other person. Even in a kink context if I felt like I was genuinely superior to someone I wouldn’t want them for a play partner. Why would I want to introduce a dynamic that I dislike into my personal life?

    QFT, and I really hated having to be a boss-like creature today at work. Workplace bullies can eat a bowl of bees.

  13. canuck_with_pluck

    Wow, I really shouldn’t have read that today. I would, however, just like to leave this for ModSquard…..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

    Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day

  14. Ugh, I hate having to be all boss-like as a means to prevent assholes from bullying their coworkers. Why can’t people just play nice at work?

  15. canuck_with_pluck

    *Modsquad. Ooops….I like mine better.

  16. Wow, I just read ALL the comments to this post. In particular, I would like to salute Chie Satonaka for this, to which Good apparently did not have the balls or brains to respond:

    Y’all know what he’s doing, right?

    Good, this is your answer. The world is not and has never been a meritocracy. The rich are not rich because they are “naturally superior” to the poor. Whites are not “naturally superior” to non-whites. And men are not “naturally superior” to women.

    You debate in bad faith and that is why you get the responses that you get.

    Yes. ^^This. Exactly this.

  17. Also, if you find yourself in the subordinate, being-socially-shat-upon position, getting out of that position is not as easy as saying “I will not accept this”. Sometimes saying that just gets you ignored, sometimes it gets you killed.

  18. Cool video! :D No sound at work, so I didnt get the voice. Love those pigtails, though I really wanted to see more of the long hair (wig?) on the person in the greeny-yellow trousers.

    I don’t like being boss, either. It’s been years since I had to do team-leader stuff, and the only good thing about that was that if we had enough staff on (a rarity) I could lurk in the office instead of having to be out in the galleries.

    One of the things I was worried about when I went from thinking of Louis and me being lovers/courting or whatever was that his attitude to marriage might have something of his earthly days still in it, and that was a frightening thought. He’s never been a dominant or domineering sort of person naturally, but his role and the general attitudes then gave him a hell of a lot of power over his first wife, even if it tended to play out politically rather than personally. Even in our situation, where he can hardly affect my earthly behaviour – certainly not force anything – it worried me. As it happened he had, of course, long since moved on from those attitudes (duh to me for thinking otherwise, but this was about six years ago and I didn’t know him as well then), and he’d been thinking of us as married for several months already, by the time I got to that place. (Convenient, really: we have two marriage and one weddingish anniversaries!)

  19. Also, if you find yourself in the subordinate, being-socially-shat-upon position, getting out of that position is not as easy as saying “I will not accept this”. Sometimes saying that just gets you ignored, sometimes it gets you killed.

    Yep. That’s oppression.

  20. I just read through the whole thread, and I’m still wondering who craves cereal after sex. I thought the traditional after-intercourse ritual was having a cigarette, not a bowl of Lucky Charms.

  21. I bet Mr Waaah-she-won’t-feed-me has never had sex twice with the same person, too.

  22. I’m like 99% sure Good isn’t arguing in good faith, but this is a pet peeve of mine:

    Evolution isn’t necessarily good. Contrary to popular belief, evolution isn’t magically making species “better” by some objective standard. Better suited to their specific environments, maybe, but not always. Something like 90% of the species that have ever existed are extinct now. Evolution’s success rate is abysmal.

    So even if we ignore all the very good answers to your question about the origin of patriarchy, Good, and decide that it was evolution after all: so fucking what? Especially when we’re talking about humans, who are capable of reasoning and of choosing not to act on our baser instincts. So fucking what if it did evolve that way?

  23. High five for extra anniversaries, Kittehs! Dr. Husbutt and I got married/wedding’d/whatever’d twice (once for legality and once for friends & family) and are coming up on our second first-year anniversary in a bit less than two weeks :D

  24. @kittehs

    Any Midwestern manboobzers (Illinois in particular) looking for cats or kittens to adopt? My gf there has had a couple of strays-plus-litters move into her yard, and much as she loves having them, that’s too many kitties for her to look after.

    Sadly, not me :( I want kitties but just don’t have a job to pay for them at the moment.

  25. @ kittehs

    Isn’t he pretty as a girl? Pretty as a man too…the kid in the yellow pants is definitely wearing a wig, as is the guy with the braids and the sparkly eyeliner.

    Craving cereal after sex – maybe they just woke up and it’s time for breakfast? Otherwise I’m confused too.

  26. All I can say is, Sir must be just heroic, ‘cos he’s perfectly capable of walking downstairs (!!!) and cooking breakfast (!!!!!!!) after sex.

    Maybe it’s in the category of “you have to do these things when you’re a king”.

  27. Also, if you find yourself in the subordinate, being-socially-shat-upon position, getting out of that position is not as easy as saying “I will not accept this”. Sometimes saying that just gets you ignored, sometimes it gets you killed.

    Yep. That’s oppression.

    Wait, really? I thought oppression was when you couldn’t get laid whenever you wanted, regardless of what everyone else involved wanted?

  28. Wait, really? I thought oppression was when you couldn’t get laid whenever you wanted, regardless of what everyone else involved wanted?

    Oh, wait, right… I forgot! Clearly, the MRAs aren’t getting through to me. I guess I’d better go see what kind of cereal they like.

  29. Athywren – totally. I was surprised that poster about having an erection =/= wanting sex (it was an MRA one, right?) didn’t say something like him having an erection = she caused it and owes him.

  30. True oppression is when random women won’t give you sandwiches and blowjobs on demand. Everything else is just whining.

  31. Also, did anyone else snicker over the fact that the person who made the “proud to be a hetero white male” poster calls himself “awesomeninja”?

  32. sarahlizhousespouse

    @CassandraSays

    The name is so unashamedly childish dudebro that… I just rolled my eyes and kept scrolling.

  33. True oppression is only what men say it is, because everyone else is just too illogical, irrational, and unambitious.

  34. Dr. Husbutt would like a shiny medal (or possibly cookies?) for the fact that he often gets up and gets me something to drink after sexytimes, whereas I generally role over and fall asleep.

  35. SittieKitty – what white men say, with the very occasional comment allowed by MoC, if it’s complaining about women.

  36. Craving cereal after sex – maybe they just woke up and it’s time for breakfast? Otherwise I’m confused too.

    Yeah, I found that a little odd. I mean, a couple of paper towels? Definitely. A sponge bath? Not a bad idea. A hydrating beverage? Don’t mind if I do! But cereal?

    He specifically mentions harvesting wheat, but wheat is not the only cereal crop out there. I choose to assume that Mr. Man wants a nice, big Jethro bowl full of Uncle Sam so he can enjoy the benefits of flax seed and stay regular. Keeping females and brown people down is hungry work, and that much more difficult if one is constipated!

  37. What, Dr Husbutt doesn’t want cereal? How unexpected.

  38. Well, the blockquote monster got me, but in a way I never expected. Top paragraph is the quote, the second and third paragraphs are my actual comment. Blee!

  39. Someone feed that blockquote monster some cereal, it’s ravenous today!

  40. Clicked the “awesomeninja” deviantart page link. One of his recent favorites is a panty shot of a VERY young anime girl. ~*~*~*~shocker~*~*~*~

  41. @hatchetmaniac, Seriously, did you look at those posters? Give us one good reason we shouldn’t dismiss a “movement” that can’t understand the simplest aspect of crafting a decent message.

  42. LOL kittehserf! I’ve been typing HTML for years and years and years. And years. And it got me! I think a hearty, piping hot bowl of Malt-O-Meal is in order.

  43. So, in addition to their many other failures to comprehend reality, MRAs have never heard of Rice Krispies.

  44. Or oatmeal, evidently. Or cornflakes.

  45. Porridge and honey!

    nom nom nom

  46. Maybe they just want all men to eat All-Bran out of a deep concern for their colonic health.

  47. I have to admit, a nice bowl of hot oatmeal with a pat of butter and some real maple syrup is starting to sound mighty tasty.

  48. Maybe they want all men to be as full of shit as they are.

  49. That sounds unsafe.

  50. *BOOM*

    It’d make a really ugly explosion.

  51. BTW speaking of oatmeal, the Trader Joe’s pecan pumpkin instant oatmeal is pretty good. You know, for your after-sex needs.

    (If anyone actually tries this I suspect that the sweetness will make them nauseous.)

  52. Kittehserf,

    Have you heard of Safe Haven in Illinois? (I think it’s in joe Daviess county). They helped me find a home for a half starved stray kitty in my backyard and even paid for all his medical care. I think they have deals with local vets. Depending on where you are in IL, it may be too far from you, not sure. Hey there fellow Midwesterner! *fist bump*

  53. Athywren – totally. I was surprised that poster about having an erection =/= wanting sex (it was an MRA one, right?) didn’t say something like him having an erection = she caused it and owes him.

    I think it probably was an MRA one… the title read like it was intended to piss off feminists. Sad, really, they’re too busy projecting their oppositional bullshit onto us to just consider that, hey, that’s actually the right message.

    Maybe they want all men to be as full of shit as they are.

    “Everybody poops… AND IT NEEDS TO STOP!!”

  54. …I still want to know how men on the phone are like having sex with a woman who won’t get you cereal afterwards. It’s really starting to bug me, like hearing a joke without the punch line.

    kittehserf: “Maybe they want all men to be as full of shit as they are.
    CassandraSays: “That sounds unsafe.”

    Dr. Kellogg would prescribe a nice enema….

  55. Kittehserf,

    FYI, I also gave them a donation, I think 60 bucks, since that was what they charged when one of their cats would get adopted. That was back in 2006.

  56. …I still want to know how men on the phone are like having sex with a woman who won’t get you cereal afterwards. It’s really starting to bug me, like hearing a joke without the punch line.

    Men on the phone are like having sex with a woman who won’t get you cereal afterwards, because they give you a tired, satisfied feeling, but leave you with a faint gnawing feeling in your stomach.

  57. Hell, I’m not even sure what “men on the phone” is supposed to mean. Is it “For men, being on the phone is like X?” Or “For women, being on the phone with a man is like X?” Or are we talking about phone sex?

    …If someone were very very brave, they could ask him…

  58. @cassandra says:
    “True oppression is when random women won’t give you sandwiches and blowjobs on demand. Everything else is just whining.”

    Don’t forget the cereal after sex thing. I mean, it’s SO easy. Why are women so unreasonably oppressive? It’s not like he wants a 6 course meal. Check your privilege, gals!

    (/sarcasm, in case it’s not obvious)

  59. I do love how the cereal bit has a double meaning. I’m pretty sure he meant “It’s only cereal, it’s not that hard to get” to mean “so do my bidding and get it for me, wimminz,” but it’s got the far more obvious meaning “so just get it yourself because you are a grown-up and don’t need someone else to do simple tasks for you.”

  60. Werterrier,

    “Yeah, I found that a little odd. I mean, a couple of paper towels? Definitely”

    Ok, you went there. I was resisting mentioning how nice it is when hubby brings me a warm washcloth after the deed. Tmi time!

  61. Nitram – thanks for that info! I’m not in Illinois, my gf is, and I’ll pass that name on to her. (I’m in Australia.)

  62. Speaking of cats (and other things) in needs of homes…I know of two cats, a couch, and a mattress that need rehoming. The cats are my mother’s friend’s, the other two pecunium tried dumping off on me and it’s obviously up to him whether they’re up for grabs in general. All New England area, and I can get details on the kitties if desired.

    Pecunium — I asked around at the shop, no takers.

  63. Such a good illustration that they see other people serving/subordinate to them as fair and actual equality as unfair. Regular people realize that when they’re lying together comfy in bed and don’t want to get up, the other person is comfy too, and it’s not fair to expect them to get up and do something for you. But for these guys, other people exist for the purpose of doing things for them when they don’t feel like it.

    Also a good illustration of how much of MRA “issues” are obviously single events that happened to someone and pissed him off.

  64. Men on the phone are like having sex with a woman who won’t get you cereal afterwards……because I suppose it’s a disappointing experience? Not going the extra mile? I’m sure he’s making some stereotypical reference to men not being able to talk on the phone well, like it’s not their strong suit, like women who are expert yappers on phones or something.

    I’m quite the poster tonight! I’ll give it a rest now. :)

  65. Kittehs:

    Oh ok! I thought I was talking to a local. In that case, here’s some better info, just did a quick google search and it IS in jodaviess county! Here’s the website: http://www.safehavenforpets.org/

    It’s in the town of Elizabeth, but I think there are offshoots in neighboring Wisconsin and Iowa. Good luck! And G’day mate! (Har har. Ok, that was bad.)

  66. Such a good illustration that they see other people serving/subordinate to them as fair and actual equality as unfair. Regular people realize that when they’re lying together comfy in bed and don’t want to get up, the other person is comfy too, and it’s not fair to expect them to get up and do something for you. But for these guys, other people exist for the purpose of doing things for them when they don’t feel like it.

    Yep. Oh, the giant cosmic unfairness of the fact that an entire gender doesn’t think they exist to serve you! Someone should make a poster about this.

  67. Imagine the outrage these guys must’ve felt when Mummy stopped making their lunches, wiping their arses, and so on.

    Oh, wait, no need to imagine it, that’s the stage they’re at right now.

  68. @Cassandrasays

    I’ve never made an MRA poster before, but here’s my best shot

  69. @fade

    that’s great XD

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