“Pregnancy is No Excuse For Misandry” and other pithy, baffling slogans from the Men’s Rights propaganda squad
A real Mens Rights poster from deviantART
Pity the poor Men’s Rights activists. The real civil rights movements that MRAs like to compare their, er, “struggle” to may have faced many obstacles that MRAs haven’t — from legal prohibitions on voting to fire bombings and assassinations — but at least they haven’t had a hard time explaining just what it was, and is, that they’re seeking redress for.
When Martin Luther King so famously dreamt of a world in which “my four little children will … not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character” he was not only speaking eloquently; he was expressing an idea that was, well, pretty easy to understand.
And that’s where the trouble comes for the MRAs. It’s a bit harder to explain your alleged anti-oppression movement to the general public when the people on whose behalf you’re fighting aren’t actually, you know, oppressed. So is it any wonder that MRAs have such a hard time explaining themselves to the public?
I mean, all the Suffragettes had to put on their posters was “Votes for Women.” MRAs are stuck. Men already have votes. They already have civil rights. Heck, men already run most companies and hold most political offices and control most of the world’s wealth.
And so MRA propaganda tends to be muddled, a weird mixture of misogyny and special pleading and stuff that just doesn’t make any sort of sense no matter how you slice it. In earlier posts we’ve looked at baffling and/or offensive posters from A Voice for Men and associated sites, as well as at some of the awful graphics that sometimes make their appearance on Reddit.
Today, a quick stroll through the MRA underground on deviantART.
The graphic at the top of the post is from someone calling himself awesomeninja; for his propaganda work, he specializes in somewhat baffling text-based graphics in basic colors. Apparently he has convinced himself that “feminazis use child-bearing all the time to defend their sexist views,” and feels it is necessary to respond to this in giant letters in several colors with a black background.
He is also responsible for this similarly befuddling contribution to political art:
Wait, is this a trick question?
Dude, have you actually met any Men’s Rights Activists?
Oh, wait, you are one. Oops.
But wait, there’s more:
Of course, awesomeninja isn’t the only one spreading the MRA message of love on deviantART. Here are a few other graphics I found by searching for “men’s rights” and related tags on the site.
This lovely “stamp” from loqutor, who has convinced himself he is “debunking an ages-old feminist myth” with it.
A meme from Userbruiser, who apparently thinks that if a woman has alcohol in her system, it’s ok to rape her:
This bizarre castration fantasy from the same lovely fellow:
This rant posted by themodsquad, who also enjoys jokes about pedophilia and bestiality.
There’s some question about whether or not themodsquad came up with that all by himself, but this uglier and worse-written sequel seems pretty authentic to me:
Is he a “real” MRA or just a troll? I don’t know, but he does seem to be an authentic misogynistic asshole attention-seeker, and I’ve seen virtually every “argument” in the first graphic rehashed many times on assorted MRA sites; it’s pretty much standard-issue “we hunted the mammoth to feed you.”
Let’s close with several graphics from an aspiring Man Going His Own Way. millenia89 is proud of his own reproductive organs:
But he doesn’t seem to think too highly of most of his fellow male-identified penis-havers. Indeed, he believes most of his fellow men are like lemmings marching off a cliff — except for a tiny percentage of MGTOW like the two tiny fellows at the bottom right of the graphic below.
I know it seems confusing, but trust me, the MGTOW in this picture aren’t the ones going over the cliff, really. They’re the ones facing the other direction, underneath that little MGTOW sign. No, not under the big MGTOW sign, under the little one. Just trust me on this one.
millenia89 is especially unimpressed with men who step in to “save a hoe,” like this fellow, whom he sees as a handy “personification” of the sort of “manipulated tool” who, I guess, apparently likes women enough to help them out. I’m not quite sure I get it. Apparently this picture is inherently hilarious because it’s a picture of a black guy with an odd smile in a weirdly inaccurate superman costume. Heck, even the font is wacky.
Millenia89 may not think much of most of his fellow men, but at least he doesn’t want to render them obsolete. Women, well, that’s another issue entirely, as this utopian paean to the glories of artificial wombs suggests:
So awesomeninja thinks that “pregnancy is no excuse for misandry.” Millenia89 evidently hopes that in the future there will be no excuse for pregnancy itself.
This is how the Men’s Rights movement tries to explain itself to the world.
And MRAs wonder why their little movement has the reputation it does.
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I was inspired to check out deviantART’s MRA community by some of the commenters here. Check out the comments in the “Feminist anti-obedience school” thread starting here to see some homegrown parodies of awesomeninja’s graphic works.
Posted on September 24, 2013, in a voice for men, all about the menz, antifeminism, are these guys 12 years old?, artistry, crackpottery, drama kings, entitled babies, evil women, grandiosity, gross incompetence, hypocrisy, imaginary oppression, mansplaining, men invented everything, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, penises, playing the victim, racism, rape, rape culture, straw feminists, the c-word, we hunted the mammoth and tagged antifeminism, men's rights, mgtow, misogyny, MRA, racism, rape culture. Bookmark the permalink. 705 Comments.
Troll-to-English (sorry whoever’s shtick this is; I’m just borrowing it! You can have it back, I promise): LOL. I am a privileged dude who is not affected by sexism except for the privileges I am granted just based on my gender. As such, I can sit back and play devil’s advocate because trying to pretend that thousands of years of systematic oppression are somehow deserved for women not seeing in the future and stopping it is just something amusing to me. I need attention, so I’m trolling this thread, and I like to make people who actually care about the equality of other human beings mad. One is mad! This amuses me way too much, because i have no sense of empathy towards people who are different than me.
Hahaha!
Oh wow “Good” not being totally obvious at ALL.
(I lied. “Good” is more transparent than most windows)
@fade
8/10. Very accurate, but lengthy :P
Good, the very first shitty post I ever saw you leave her was a litany of insults against women. And guess what, those are personal insults/attacks toward everyone who is a woman.
Good, go invent something and leave us alone.
Chie Satonaka has said it right.
The institution of slavery has existed in some form in every human society on the planet. Therefore, slavery is the natural state of humanity and “good.”
This is the kind of shit that comes from the type of “logic” that people like Good employ.
Good :no one is mad at you, you’re not interesting or smart enough to be mad at. You’re just fucking tedious.
I’m still waiting for good to tell me that I’m really mad at him, I’m just pretending I’m not or w/e. But hellkell hit it. Good’s just boring.
And yet I am bored, so I still keep poking him. Oh well. ::sighs::
Good makes me go /).<
@argenti aertheri
I wish I knew what those punctuations signified :(
…what do they signify?
Damn it, now I’m writing a post on misogyny in STEM, with a planned post on misogyny on the Internet, and I should be preparing for an interview in four hours. EEP!
For the record though, we’re working on fixing the gender parity, at least in STEM.
I asked all the kitties what they think of all of Good’s reasoned arguments and citations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iiias7R444s
@alice
Good luck on your interview! :D
Good luck, Alice!
This. So much.
Going back to before we got invaded by Not Good At All — “rather than ‘men have higher suicide rates because they’re less likely to seek help…'”
Auggz, ya might want to be careful there, last time I mentioned that suicide prevention programs targeting men would be a good idea, Joe accused me of victim blaming (and I proceeded to completely loose my shit at him because my ex-FWB’s brother killed himself and you do not go after my friends)
Marie — it’s a face palm, like >.< but with a palm /)
So /) = palm and .< = nose and squinty cranky eye
@argenti
ah. That makes sense.
/).<
“You haven’t addressed my points” and “Why aren’t you giving my argument the respect it deserves” both translate to “You aren’t agreeing with me like I think you should be.”
Best wishes for your interview Alice!
Don’t pay any attention to Good. He is just trying to garner the attention his classmates don’t give him at school.
Unrelated to anything and with apologies to vegetarians.
Chupaqueso
You will need a good teflon skillet, a fairly sharp teflon spatula, some sharp cheddar, some fresh parmesan, and some Monterey Jack cheese.
1. Grate about a half-cup of cheddar and a half-cup of jack.
2. Heat the skillet, and spread the cheddar evenly in the pan. You should have an eight-inch diameter circle of grated cheese, with a little bit of pan showing through here and there.
3. As the pan gets hotter the cheese will obviously melt. Then it will toast, and you’ll get cheese-grease floating on top of melted cheddar, itself on top of a layer of crusty toasted cheddar.
4. Start lifting around the edges with the spatula. You’ll soon reach a point (you’ll know, trust me) when the structural integrity of the crusty-toasty cheese allows you to flip the whole thing over.(Speaking of “over,” this is often the point where you’ll get frustrated and decide to start over.)
5) After toasting side two for a moment, flip it again so the “smooth” side is down, and the recently toasted side is up.
6) You now have a cheese shell sizzling in a puddle of cheese grease. It’s still flexible, but much longer and it won’t be, so you’ll have to work fast. Add the Jack cheese and a sprinkle of parmesan, and then tri-fold the cheddar-shell around it.
7) Slide it out of the pan onto your plate. It’s called a “chupaqueso” either because you can suck (chupa) the cheese (queso) out of the middle as you crunch away, or because this cheese (queso) thing you made sucks (chupa).
For added flavor you might try adding cooked-and-crumbled bacon with the jack and parmesan. In this case you’ll end up with a chupaqueso con tocino, or, as it’s often pronounced in my house, “chupaqueso con THERE’S BACON IN THIS THING chomp chomp AAARGH I BURNED MY MOUTH slurp gulp chomp.”
On the subject of inventions and discoveries…not only are the contributions of known women often downplayed/ignored, but unknown inventors are usually assumed to be men. Anyone else remember the “Men invented rope” troll?
@karalora
not me, but they sound like a very strange troll
Hyena Girl: that sounds effing delicious. No such thing as a sucky cheese dish.
I just commented on the stamp from deviantart. I’m going to be trolled like crazy now.
What is it with trolls like Good? For the 38474738th time: it’s not that we can’t refute your “arguments”, it’s just that we don’t feel like it, because this isn’t a debate site. We’re here to mock, and you’re as good a target as any other MRA.
Thanks! $12 an hour, I hope I get the job!
Also: men do not see women as equals. For most of human history, women were seen as inferiors, as property, as vessels to fuck, as a dependent, as like a child. Women are objectified, their bodies and the promise of sex being used to sell things from cars to body wash for men (Axe commercials anyone?). The Bible is highly misogynistic, with passages punishing women for losing their virginity, passages declaring her unclean during her period and after pregnancy, passages requiring her to marry her rapist if he refuses to pay her virgin price (but it’s only rape if she cried out while she was being raped of course!).
Laws were in place for much of the century denying married women the right to her own property, the right to vote, the right to keep her wages. She was expected to get married, and expected to take care of the home and care for babies. She was in the care of her father, and then her husband, and finally her sons; she never really got a chance to do things herself. Only if there were no men around (and if she was single) was she able to achieve some semblance of independence.
Women were denied entry to numerous institutions, denied access to many careers, especially science-related fields such as medicine. Elizabeth Blackwell was only accepted into medical school by a fluke of chance — the dean took her acceptance up for a vote, and if one male student (the male being superfluous at the time) objected, she would have been denied entry. The male students there thought it a joke and unanimously voted to accept her. If a woman achieved, she was not given credit, hidden by all of the male faces that accepted the awards and the acclaim for her work (see: Rosalind Franklin). Recognition for her work might take decades to surface; Franklin’s work was acknowledged as hers 25 years later.
Women were thought to be too stupid, too irrational, too emotional, too fragile, and hence all of the sexism and misogyny and restrictions regarding her agency made sense. And unfortunately, this attitude STILL exists today. And why? Because they were (and still are by many misogynists) seen as inferior.
[This is probably going to show up in my blog post later, because I'm lazy.]
Good: In the era when the roots of patriarchy were planted (see: ancient Rome/Greece, original Hebrew tribes, etc), upper body strength actually mattered, since whoever could swing a club harder was usually victorious. Even a small differential in that metric meant that men could dominate women physically (superior intellects need not apply). The stress of childbirth would also have factored into it; again, in pre-sanitary societies, childbirth was a much more dangerous prospect, and so women who achieved old age (often seen as a sign of divine providence in primitive societies) were few and far between.
Once a group has disproportionate power, the tools of power allow them to enhance that hold. So if you’re in charge, and you’re the guy telling the stories around the campfires, well, your stories will explain to everyone how it’s good and right that you’re in charge.
Thing is, the conditions in which ‘rule by force and age’ was a reasonable concept pretty much started fading with the invention of gunpowder, and are utterly inapplicable in modern society. As a result, women have been slowly, but steadily, trying to undo the effects of thousands of years of socialized patriarchy.
“Auggz, ya might want to be careful there, last time I mentioned that suicide prevention programs targeting men would be a good idea, Joe accused me of victim blaming (and I proceeded to completely loose my shit at him because my ex-FWB’s brother killed himself and you do not go after my friends)”
Wait… what? Victim blaming? What the flying fuck?
Also does he protest women’s suicide help with that same reasoning? Probably not…
@Good
Minorities fighting for rights isn’t a win/fail thing. It’s slow progress. Look at where women are now compared to 100 years ago, 200 years ago, etc. There’s a ton of progress. Does that mean that there’s no patriarchy still? Of course not.
Also, you haven’t addressed my previous points, Good.
You admitted the MRM had baseless arguments. Why would (straw)feminism negate this?
Good, men did it (dominate) by using violence and the threat of it.
“I have never insinuated anything of the kind”
You lying fuck.
Also social shame too. Religion. Manipulation. Culture. etc.
And it didn’t come just from men, either.
auggziliary – And don’t forget laws! De jure and de facto discrimination were perfectly okay in the 18th and 19th centuries!
You know Good is just going to come back with a bunch of links to articles in popular magazines that (upon careful reading) actually invalidate his point. Not that he really has a point, since he’s just JAQing off.
In so many words?
Exposure causes seeming normalcry, evil isn’t abberant but endemic to the world, oppression is easy if you can make those you oppress believe it should be, and the world isn’t perfectly balanced because the world if a fuzzy, fuzzy place.
Very few people set out with the intention of being mean, set out with the purpose of destruction or do “Bad things”, because most folk consider themselves perfectly allright. The romans kept slaves, “The sinews of an empire”, and didn’t often feel particularly bothered by the notion that corraling others up and using them for forced labou might not be the spirit of greatness while most early explorers of the Americas were perfectly happy to blithely slaughter, corral or murder “savages”, not out of any real malice, but just expendiency and easy and a thousand other good excuses at the time.
There was never a big throw down between one side and another side, on a perfectly flat field, where men with brawns and brains deafeted weak woman who are weak, and was thus decreed by Right of Combat to rule forevermore. That’s bullshit, and facetious thinking. What’s far, far more likely is just that what at first seems like reasonable ideas: “I will go hunt, you watch the camp”, becomes reasonable traditions like: “I always go hunt, right? You always watch the camp”, becomes simple descriptions of behaviour: “I go hunt, you watch the camp”, becomes just as easily, iron clad laws: “You cannot come hunt, you must watch the camp”.
The history of the world is filled with examples of woman and men doing great, amazing things, to such a degree that saying utterly that one is weaker than the other and must be submissive is… at best, a nebolous concept with dubious merit. individual women dressed up as knights or were out hunting, just as individual men lived in convents disguised as nuns or tended the home. Larger societal trends are never particularly absolute at the personal level, because the world is… fuzzy. But they are still trends.
“Sure, you can come hunt, but I expect you to find out you’re not very good at it because you’ve never done it before, then settle down and watch the camp”.
Also, as I wrote, very few people set out with the intent of evil. But people only know what they know at the time, and choices are never made in utter isolation but with context to consider. And if everyone around you says that women can’t study mathematics at the university, or women can’t go to war, or woman shouldn’t be taught to fight, or woman need to dress a certain way, or that its a man’s job to watch the world… well, how are you, you pillar of iron will and true strength, going to respond? You’ll say what everyone else says, because that’s tradition and “truth” and what “Everyone knows that…”.
The idea of “Patriarchy” is not, and has never been, a conscious conspiracy of grinning men around campfires coming up with clever ways of berating others. It was just, and is just, for the most part, an accident of events and of people who happen to profit from continuing trends.
“Oh, sure, we can let others go hunt, but we get the best meat this way… And we’ve all gotten really good at hunting together, so why bother causing a ruckus? They’ll watch the camp just fine, and I’ll bring my son out tomorrow so he can pick up a trick or too”
“Oh, sure, she said it was rape, but I know for a fact that some others sometimes drink, and why bother causing too much of a ruckus? Hell, if that was rape, I might have done the same thing, and that’s silly, because I’m a great guy. And anyway, my daughter needs to find a good man, so don’t you know someone who….”
“Oh, sure, you could study at university, MIss, but don’t you think you’d be much happier finding a nice invenstment banker husband? All the other little ladies have much more fun with their babies, you know! You’ll be terribly lonely, you wonderful gal. And besides, we’ve never had a female student before, I don’t think we have the facilities for it, your tampoons will clog up the algebra!”
“Oh, sure, you gals could join active frontline combat, but you’ve managed specialistist positions like communications really well so far! And it’s terribly dangerous out there, you know, wouldn’t want someone to get hurt, now would we? And, hey, it’s not like you can really keep up with the menfolk! YOu’re all just communications specialists and support personel, you don’t have the training…”
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a chain event of random happenstance and occasional misery and shortsighted failure and convenient fucking excuses.
I should get off. Someone let me know if and when the guy finds a point, mkay?
I actually think that the on-average-greater-physical-strength of men play a very important part TODAY in UPHOLDING patriarchy. Just look at the way men may “playfully” show women that they’re physically stronger and therefore capable of doing as they please with them by, say, carrying a woman around at a party despite her objections. That kind of behaviour is pretty common, and serves to show women that “hey, you’re living at our mercy”. Not to mention the constant nagging to women about how men may RAPE them, jump out from some dark alley or from behind some bushes and RAPE them, because men are STRONGER. And in order to come safely home late at night they need to bring a RELIABLE man with them who can PROTECT them from the EVIL men, but it’s all about men – men as a threat, men as necessary protection against the threat, because men are STRONGER.
And then we reinforce this statistical and testosteron-induced difference by teaching women that they mustn’t exercise in the wrong way (i e, in a way that builds actual muscle), because that’s unfeminine.
Fibinachi, your explanation is fabulous. Here is an imaginary cookie. (I don’t have any cookie dough, sorry.)
Tastes like fantasy, wonder and imagination. All sparkles, rainbows and dark elves, negative suns and royals on quests.
@fibinachi
I don’t think good will get it (willful ignorance and all that) but I do think you did a great explanation! :D
Wait, Fibinachi, did I accidentally give you a ganja cookie? Oops.
… sorry, that was *really* whimsical and sickening. I’m overtired, I spent all day as a dark elf instructing 400 children in the virtues of being good knights. Including being honourable and wise, and very pointedly, to treat people on their actions, not their apperance.
Interesting side note: Young boys go “Haha! We’ll win this fight because we’re boys and they’ve got girls, and girls suck” and then sometimes they don’t (And or I cheat and sic the other elf at them, who is female).
Then they stop. A sword to the gut! A great cure of the short comings of thinking your opponent can’t be faster than you. Not what I recommend for normal instructive conversation.
But it is a little funny how in some groups, guys tend to monopolize the right to exert violence, because “They’re the biggest ones, and they’re supposed to fight! And I fight my big brother all the time, and and and he says boys are better fighters!”
Indeed.
Oh man, new favorite troll account! Two-dot ellipses, lists of grievances that are all things like “flowers and candy,” an entire account of lovingly drawn illustrations of his subconscious…
Haven’t read through the comments yet, so sorry if I’m being repetitive, but my first take on this was that, while I’ve given up on the hope of decent grammar (among oh so many other things), I’m really, really bothered by the fact that the blues don’t match on several of these poster-things. C’mon, eyedropper tool, dudes.
Good question.
“Wait… what? Victim blaming? What the flying fuck?”
I do not fucking know, but I said fuck a lot in response to that load of shit.
I think it was supposed to be some joke about how we call people who try to “prevent” rape by telling women to not dress a certain way, or tell rape victims they should have done x,y,z, “victim blamers”.
So when we advocate focusing on the victim to prevent suicide, it’s “victim blaming”. Except suicide isn’t a crime, it’s done to oneself, and the suicide prevention isn’t going to be based on horrible outdated ideas, like “well you should just stop feeling bad for yourself and just get over it”.
Yup. MRAs don’t give two shits about mens issues. Just as long as they can use them to argue against women’s issues.
Dvärghundspossen:
Oh, sure, physical strength (and the threat of its use, ie, violence) certainly plays a strong role in maintaining aspects of the patriarchy. My point is that in modern society, if we had an egalitarian set-up in the first place, physical strength alone would probably not be enough to establish a patriarchy. In fact, I doubt that physical violence alone would be enough, in the modern era, to actually sustain a patriarchy. However, by definition, any aspect of the kyriarchy has access to numerous methods of support and power–everything from financial control to education and media is largely in the hands of the dominant group. So they only need physical threats on some occasions; in many cases, it’s easier to coerce or force submission via other means.
Rape prevention advice is simple really. If women just never left their homes and never interacted with anyone they wouldn’t get raped. Unless of course they live on the ground floor (I was honestly adviced against that), or live alone. However, as long as women don’t ever interact with anyone in person, or leave the house, or drink alcohol, or open the door or windows, or live on a ground floor, or share a house, or live alone, or have family, or live in a bad area, or live in a good area that is close to a bad area, or give someone their number, or let people online know they are female, or have a picture of themselves, or let someone see them through the window in a state of undress, or dress or act in a way that might seem attractive to someone who has broken in, or give the wrong impression about feeling lonely and trapped they are fine. I think MRA just get upset women aren’t prepared to do those small things to keep safe.
Oh, suuure, it sounds irrational when you actually come out and just say it. I mean, anything utterly unreasonable will sound odd if you’re open about it!
Now, ladies, we know it’s all our own fault for flaunting our vaginas.
^ and even writing that made me cringe at how it ignores the rape of vagina-less people.
It’s not that bad! Maybe if you stopped acting like it was the end of the world and just enjoyed it, you wouldn’t be so upset!
@titianblue, i felt the same.
“Pregnancy is no excuse for misandry”.
This is like saying short eustachian tubes are no excuse for burnt cookies. I agree, but what’s the point? One doesn’t really relate, tend to cause, or hinge on the other.
I need a gif of Wesley from princess bride saying to Andre the giant “I believe you….so what happens now?”
@ auggziliary “well you should just stop feeling bad for yourself and just get over it”.
still heard rather too frequently. IMHO, Bright-siding has led to a resurgence in associated stupidity.
oh yeah i got imgur. Just for showing off my cat gravatar faces.
http://auggziliary.imgur.com/all/
takshak, it’s just rape apology pretending to be optimism. I am supportive of empowering victims, since they shouldn’t feel ashamed of what someone else did to them. But the “get over it ladies!” or “your whining makes me stop caring about rape!” is just indescribably awful.
It’s not a conspiracy. It’s a chain event of random happenstance and occasional misery and shortsighted failure and convenient fucking excuses.
And when this happens over a 3 million year period, it’s called evolution.
No, it’s called history.
@ Nitram I need a gif of Wesley from princess bride saying to Andre the giant “I believe you….so what happens now?”
will this do?
“And when this happens over a 3 million year period, it’s called evolution.”
Where are my previous points?
It hasn’t been 3 million years. This is totally unrelated to evolution. No DNA, no biology, no natural selection, just social interactions. Since when have misery, shortsighted failure, and convenient excuses been part of evolution? Since when has evolution needed 3 million years to be considered evolution?
I actually think that the on-average-greater-physical-strength of men play a very important part TODAY in UPHOLDING patriarchy. Just look at the way men may “playfully” show women that they’re physically stronger and therefore capable of doing as they please with them by, say, carrying a woman around at a party despite her objections. That kind of behaviour is pretty common, and serves to show women that “hey, you’re living at our mercy”.
Actually, I would say that this behavior serves to show women “hey, look at how much I can protect you. Look at how dominant I can be over other men, because I know that appeals to you”.
Also, the clear way that so many women have no inhibitions about aggressively confronting and striking men as well as how women are the bosses in most married or cohabitating households shows that women are in general not intimidated by men.
Good needs to learn the difference between social/ cultural constructs and biology/evolution.
Did the troll just go for sciency-ness (like “truthiness”, but with 100% more sparkles!)
c’mon, Good, what do you actually know about punk eek?
Good, did you go to high school?
I misread that, and worried that you might be exposing us to toxoplasmosa… but your pictures aren’t publicly available anyway, so I guess we’re safe.
<blockquote so many women have no inhibitions about aggressively confronting and striking men as well as how women are the bosses in most married or cohabitating households
Citation needed.
Bummocks, the blockquote monster got me.
or men THINK it says that. It does not appeal to me, nor many other women.
Where is this alternate universe where women go around striking men randomly? (tw: domestic violence). Though female on male domestic abuse isn’t taken seriously often, and it’s not because women on average aren’t scared of men, it’s because women are seen as ‘not a threat’ to men, but I don’t think that’s what you were getting at.