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Slut face, hairy arms and feminism: all signs she’s a slut?

Possible slut.

Possible slut.

Over on Roosh’s Return of Kings blog, a dude who calls himself Tuthmosis has provided a useful list of “24 Signs She’s A Slut” in order to help aspiring PUAs to figure out whether or not the HB 6 they’ve been negging all night is going to eventually succumb to their drunken, er, “charms.”

Much of the list is basically rehashed PUA conventional wisdom: sluts have tattoos and lots of piercings; they dye their hair unnatural colors, wear revealing clothes, and have daddy issues.

PUAs really have a thing about women with tattoos, huh?

Others simply reflect a certain assertiveness on the part of the women in question: they curse, they talk about drugs or sex. Oh my! Must be a slut!

But Tuthmosis has a few more, well, novel additions to the list. Like #5 here:

Not ticklish. I’ve noticed that girls who aren’t ticklish aren’t so because they’re used to being handled (by men). Almost every prude is super ticklish, while sluts are rarely so. Sluts may have a physical response to light touching, but it’s rarely a tickled sensation.

Really? When I was young, I was very ticklish. Now, not at all. I haven’t been handled by a lot of men. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

I actually tried to look up what SCIENCE says about ticking only to discover that it doesn’t say much. But I’m going to go out on a giant limb and say that Tuthy’s theory here is complete bullshit. Some people are more ticklish than others. Some people start out ticklish and get less ticklish. Some people like being tickled, some people hate it. People who look to Roosh for advice on how to lead their lives are assholes.

Tuthy’s #9 reason is pretty special:

Has extra body hair (arms, girl-sideburns, girl-mustache) and/or a low speaking voice. This, I’m told, is simple biology. More hair and low voice equals more testosterone. It’s an imperfect metric, though, because women of certain ethnicities are just more hirsute by default.

Oh, that’s why it’s an “imperfect metric.”

Oh, and speaking of “imperfect metrics,” here’s #3, which is probably my favorite:

Has “slut face.” You either recognize it or you don’t.

Works for men, too. Here’s Roosh himself. TOTAL slut face!

rooshslutface

And then there’s #22:

Describes herself as a feminist or with any of its jargon (“pansexual,” “demi-sexual,” “cis-gendered”). You may not be able to stand a feminist long enough to bang her yourself but, in trying to prove she can do everything a man can do, she likely fucks with impunity.

Yeah, that’s not actually why feminists have sex. They have sex because they like sex. Feminists may be — on average — more blunt and straightforward about sex than most people, because feminism helps to clear out some of the fucked-up attitudes about sex that get in the way of people dealing with sex in a not-totally fucked-up way. At least that’s been my experience.

Also, you might want to learn what some of that ” jargon” actually means before spouting off about it. A woman who describes herself as demisexual isn’t going to have a have a one-night-stand with you, even if you do manage to successfully hide what a total douchebag you are for a few hours.

Then again, someone who calls herself a pansexual probably isn’t going to either, but that’s because you’re a fucking tool who posts terrible crap on Return of Kings, and there’s really no way you can hide that much douchebaggery.

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Posted on September 5, 2013, in antifeminism, it's science!, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, PUA, rhymes with roosh, sluts and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 206 Comments.

  1. I love beer but I will concede that it smells pretty gross. There’s a reason beer connoisseurs don’t talk about the bouquet.

  2. Also also! If drugs can put them off and we’re sure about that (ie. it’s not something they’ll complain about but still keep hitting on the woman in question), then I have a brilliant new get-rich-quick plan – marijuana perfume. Want to smell like you wake and bake daily even if you can’t stand the stuff/your employer has a drug testing policy/you’re too broke to buy weed right now? Buy our special weed-scented perfume today! Also comes in a body spray, for those occasions where your scent might be competing with the Axe that various PUA creepers have doused themselves in.

  3. And it could come in different strains! I’ll go for a Purple Kush, please.

  4. Well, I’m a pierced, leopard-print wearing, hairy knee-ed and hairy toed, usually single, poor, bisexual, drunken potty mouth who doesn’t want kids. I used to smoke, do drugs, and be a bartender and a server (and have even more piercings than I do now). I have a lot of gay friends, but never liked gay bars, or most bars in general (I prefer pubs, if anything, or just walking around downtown… more or less slutty?). I move a lot and I like red lipstick, and some of my greatest friends are sluts. I’ve also been thinking about getting a tattoo for a long time, once I have enough money to spare I’m doin’ it.

    Slut rating?

    @jennydevildoll

    Yea, you pretty much nailed it. We’re the cool kids and they’re jealous.

  5. CassandraSays, I’m pretty sure they at least have weed scented incense! That will do for now… Or, just put some rum in a perfume bottle.

  6. Eau de Marietta Jehanne keeps PUAs at bay and far away. Buy a case today at your local tattoo parlor!

  7. Is it slutty if I pet cats that are not my cat? I feel like it probably is. Speaking of which, I just came back from the local pet food store, where I was petting a pair of adorable kittens that were up for adoption (while wearing an off the shoulder top, and lipstick). But does my hatred of leopard print and my lack of tattoos cancel that out? I feel like we need one of those shitty magazine quizzes where a=1 point, b=2 points, and so on, to determine our level of sluttitude.

  8. Ally – thank you, I’m glad it didn’t sound censorious! My father and brother were both alcoholics and my brother was violent to Mum and me once (male parental unit was of the maudlin drunk type) and I’ve seen a few friends drunk in years past. Not good.

    lowquacks – worse, we once called it (TM for ableism) Spastic Dyslexia.

  9. And it could come in different strains! I’ll go for a Purple Kush, please.

    I’m sure an LSD strain one would keep folks away – despite not smelling skunky, it’s pretty overpowering. (Although the name is highly misleading. V_V)

  10. One thing that Roosh and so called other ‘alpha’ males need to realize is that real ‘alpha’ males are out banging chicks and have no time for the internet posting hateful rants, advice and other nonsense.

  11. Um, no, what they need to realize is that the whole alpha/beta/omega thing as a model for human sexual behavior is really, really stupid.

  12. Grrrrrr…why did I click on that article? Honestly, fidelbogen has not incited that much disgust and dirtiness after reading his articles,

  13. Disliking women with tattoos? I…just don’t get that. At all.

    I guess they don’t like Art.

  14. They dislike women with tattoos, without tattoos, with/without anything at all. They hate women, full stop. That’s all it comes down to.

  15. Actually I think it’s pretty simple. Tattoos = woman who might not care whether or not you like her ink. If you look at the things they dislike the common denominator is that they all demonstrate agency, and we can’t have that.

  16. If drugs can put them off and we’re sure about that

    I’m pretty sure this is the opposite: this is a list of things that they believe will mark a woman as an easy target.

    I’m pretty sure they at least have weed scented incense!

    Maybe it’s because I haven’t been around pot smokers since college, but I thought the point of incense was to cover the pot smell.

  17. The fact that the list is both “things that mark an easy target” and “things that mean you should despise someone” pretty much sums up the problem with the PUA approach to sex.

  18. Tattoos = woman who might not care whether or not you like her ink

    And she probably thinks her body exists for her own enjoyment, not for men’s. It’s terrible, I tell you!

  19. The fact that the list is both “things that mark an easy target” and “things that mean you should despise someone” pretty much sums up the problem with the PUA approach to sex.

    Yup. “I want you to want to have sex with me, but I don’t want you to be the sort of person who has sex with people” is the new “I wouldn’t belong to a club that would have me as a member”.

  20. As far as tattoos — I love them. Have two, hope to get more in the future.

    My husband also has one and HATES it. It was one of those drunken high school ideas that he deeply regretted. I admit, I find it endearing, but he’s glad it’s on his back where he can’t see it.

  21. I was being facetious before (I “get” why they dislike it, but I also find it absurd and pointless). It just seems disliking tattoos that much is irrational. It’s like Ayn Rand’s hatred of facial hair – an utterly silly thing to get offended by when, well, there’s things that matter.

    Anywho…

    As far as tattoos — I love them. Have two, hope to get more in the future.

    Very cool. Whatcha got?

    I am tattoo-less at the moment, but I’ve been planning on getting three particular ones for a while now. Just need to find the right (and most affordable) tattooist which, thankfully, there are plenty of in my area. So there’s a lot of options.

  22. Yup. “I want you to want to have sex with me, but I don’t want you to be the sort of person who has sex with people” is the new “I wouldn’t belong to a club that would have me as a member”.

    Plus “If you’ve had sex with people you might have a basis for comparison and find out what a pathetic oxygen thief I am in bed as well as out of it.”

    It’s like Ayn Rand’s hatred of facial hair – an utterly silly thing to get offended by when, well, there’s things that matter.

    Okay, product of her time, maybe … or had a hate-on ’cause of Uncle Joe’s Mo … but really, that just makes me want to stop bothering about the stray dark hairs I’m getting. (No need to encourage Sir to grow his mo, since it’s been splendid forever.) Ayn Rand hating facial hair makes me go “yay facial hair!”

  23. Now if she’d hated blockquotes, that would have totally made sense.

  24. As far as tattoos — I love them. Have two, hope to get more in the future.

    My husband also has one and HATES it. It was one of those drunken high school ideas that he deeply regretted. I admit, I find it endearing, but he’s glad it’s on his back where he can’t see it.

    Hope it’s not rude to ask, but… how does this work? I thought you guys shared bodyparts,so that any tattoo on your husbands back will also be on your back? But I guess you might think of it as “his” tattoo rather than yours if it was him and only him who decided to have it…?
    Or do you have like… different astral bodies (for lack of a better word) with different tattoos on them?

  25. I’m only going to do the ones I have coments on, because otherwise it’s too much typing.

    1. Has tattoos. I want them, but I’m too scared of needles. Though my progressing sickness may cure that, seeing as how everytime I get a blood draw, it gets less nervous making. Any tatood people want to tell me how much it hurts?

    2. Piercings outside of the traditional earlobe placement. same thing for tatooes

    7. Has big tits. I like how a coincidence of biology can change your personality. And by “I like”, I mean “I hate”


    9. Has extra body hair. well, I don’t shave my legs or armpits. My hair is pretty dark, so it shows up, too. XD Also, my brother has hairier legs than me, but i have hairier armpits, and we always joke about how he must be so envious of my armpit hair

    ..

    11. Shows interests in girls, has “hooked up” with girls, or claims to be “bi-sexual.” I do not claim to be bisexual, I AM bisexual

    21. Has a bad relationship with her father and/or has divorced parents. I do have divorced parents, and I did have bad relations with my dad, but things were really stressfulat the time, not to mention me having to deal with depression, and we’ve both managed to mature since then, so now we’re on good terms

    @ignotussomnium

    How do you become a “confirmed” slut? Do I need to get a membership card?

    We need slut membership cards!

    “Party schools” tend to be large state universities.

    I think the college I’m going to counts (it’s a two year state college, not a four year, though). Can I say I’m in a party school? *prepares party hat*

  26. That tit thing reminds me of this fucked-up American preacher who thinks God sent a Tsunami to Thailand because there were so many Swedish tourists there and he wanted to punish Sweden for being a slutty country. His main complaint about Sweden was that we have gay marriage, but he also mentioned as one of the points God was supposedly angry about that princess Madeleine has big tits.

  27. @Dvärghundspossen

    That tit thing reminds me of this fucked-up American preacher who thinks God sent a Tsunami to Thailand because there were so many Swedish tourists there and he wanted to punish Sweden for being a slutty country. His main complaint about Sweden was that we have gay marriage, but he also mentioned as one of the points God was supposedly angry about that princess Madeleine has big tits.

    Of course, because non-Western countries are just props God created to give object lessons to White people 8-) Fuckin guy

    Also, I kinda want someone to make a WTF PUAs meme out of that Roosh picture to drop on PUA/Roosh’s articles

  28. Does he think that the princess has implants? Because otherwise surely by fundie principles God made those boobs, therefore it would be silly of him to be angry about them.

  29. It was a long time since I saw that interview on TV, but here it is… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr4W3YLDwHs It’s Fred Phelps from the Westboro Baptist Church, and he just doesn’t respond when the interviewers bring up the argument that it was God who gave princess Madeleine big tits and therefore it can hardly be a sin to have them. Instead he just skips back to his former subject, “the king looks feminine and homosexual”.

    The two guys interviewing Phelps are comedians, and basically this whole interview is supposed to be pure entertainment. You’re just supposed to laugh away at Phelps. Obviously YMMV, and it may be far less funny for people who’re actually in danger of being hurt by this kind of super-duper-extreme fundie… Anyway, for the LONGEST time I was certain that Phelps was just someone posing as a fundie, that it was all satire on his part, and I thought that others were silly for not getting the joke. It really took me the LONGEST time to realize that he’s for real.

  30. Westboro Baptist is hard to get a handle on because honestly there does seem to be a certain level of doing it all for the money involved. Basically they provoke people into saying or doing something in response to their obnoxious behavior, and then sue those people, and it does seem like there’s enough of a pattern there to make you wonder whether everyone involved is a true believer or if most of them are just grifters of a very specialized kind. I think Fred does believe the shit he says, though.

  31. @Fade (hi, nice to see you posting again!) – YMMV but for me, tattoos didn’t hurt like getting an injection can. It’s not like an intramuscular (ouch!) or getting blood drawn (don’t know if you’ve had that done much yet, but I’ve had a couple recently and they didn’t hurt).

    Thing with tattooing, the outlines are the deepest, and that’s not really deep anyway. The colouring is shallower. For me (one on the arm, one on the breast) it wasn’t like a real piercing feeling, more like a cross between and itch and a hot feeling; it’s irritating, yes, but not painful as such, especially for a smaller one that doesn’t take long to do. It can get a bit hard to take if it goes on a while. My second tatt took about an hour and yes, it was good to have a break in the middle.

    From what I’ve heard, the pain level’s going to vary with where you get it done and your tolerance, but even then it varies: you’d think an ankle tatt would really hurt, right over the bone, but a friend of mine said hers didn’t.

  32. I think I remember reading something by Nate Phelps that said that it is definitely a money-making scheme, and has always been a money-making scheme, and ol’ Fred had tons of unsuccessful money-making schemes before hitting on this one that apparently works. Not sure where or when I read it, though, so grain of salt with everything.

  33. RE: saintnick86

    A turtledove and a phoenix, one on each shoulder, circumscribed by a circle. I got them in honor of my wedding; it’s a reference to Shakespeare’s ‘The Phoenix and the Turtle,’ which is a poem in homage to ideal love. At some point in the future, I’d like to get a Golem of Prague-inspired work over my top surgery scars.

    Also, I’m a destitute cheapskate, but I highly advise forking it up for the best around. It’s gonna be on you for life; the cost is worth it.

    RE: Dvardhundspossen

    Hubby had a life before he ended up here; his tattoo is on his internal self-image, not on our vessel. My tattoos ARE on the vessel, but just because the vessel has a trait doesn’t mean it’ll carry over to other folks’ self-images. So I have tattoos, Sneak doesn’t, Mac has red hair, and I don’t. Hope that helps!

    RE: Fade

    Any tatood people want to tell me how much it hurts?

    I have a phobia with needles, but huzzah! It turns out my subconscious totally makes an exception for tattoo needles. Go figure. As for pain, it depends on who you are and where you get it, but I found it tolerable, far more fearsome in my imagination than it was. The itching afterward was way more torturous!

  34. 1. Has tattoos.
    Yes. One above the ankle of a dragon and a ying yang.

    2. Piercings outside of the traditional earlobe placement.
    Nope. Too lazy.

    3. Has “slut face.”
    Never checked.

    4. Cusses a lot.
    Fucking right, goddam fucker.

    5. Not ticklish.
    Not really.

    6. Broaches the topic of illegal drugs (even marijuana) without prompting. The more illegal, the sluttier.
    Will talk about drugs, doesn’t actually do them.

    7. Has big tits.
    Big enough.

    8. Shows excessive skin for weather conditions.
    Not really.

    9. Has extra body hair.
    No.

    10. Associates with confirmed sluts.
    Probably. I don’t check people’s slut cards.

    11. Shows interests in girls, has “hooked up” with girls, or claims to be “bi-sexual.”
    Bisexual, but still won’t fuck you jackass.

    12. Is currently, or was at some point, in a sorority.
    No.

    13. Has traveled alone, or with only girls, to fuck-fest locations (e.g., Jamaica).
    No.

    14. Was a cheerleader in high school.
    Hell no. Nothing that requires any athletic ability for me, thanks.

    15. Went, or goes, to a known party college.
    No.

    16. Lost her virginity on the younger side (15 and down).
    Haven’t lost it yet at 31.

    17. Likes tequila shots or party drugs (e.g., Extasy/MDMA).
    No drugs. Only tasty (usually sweet) booze

    18. Is “friends” with DJs, promoters, or other small-time pseudo-celebs.
    No

    19. Is an artist, or a wannabe “model” who has done “photo shoots.”
    No.

    20. Broaches the topic of sex first.
    Will talk about many things. Will do a lot less.

    21. Has a bad relationship with her father and/or has divorced parents.
    No bad relationship but has divorced parents. In fact, divorced parents are still friendly with one another.

    22. Describes herself as a feminist or with any of its jargon (“pansexual,” “demi-sexual,” “cis-gendered”).
    Is a feminist who thinks you need a fucking dictionary.

    23. Has an even, nice tan that she maintains.
    No, too lazy and is not partial to skin cancer.

    24. Hair dyed a nontraditional color (e.g., blue).
    Not currently, has been in the past (blue in fact)

    25. Will wear leopard print
    On occasion.

    26. Single mother
    To a very special beagle

    27. Wants kids?
    A kitty sibling for the beagle would be nice. No human offspring.

    28. Likes gay people?
    Yes.

    29. Gets drunk?
    Not often.

    30. bartender or server?
    Works in retail.

  35. 1. Nope
    2. Not any more, took my nasal piercing out
    3. I assume this means “looks confident”? If so, sure.
    4. You bet your ass I do
    5. Super ticklish
    6. Sure. Also, if women regularly suggest getting high when you’re talking to them you may want to consider the possibility that you’re boring them.
    7. Definitely. Damn those slutty genes.
    8. Nope, unless a short skirt and tights in the winter counts as “skin”. I fear skin cancer.
    9. Nope
    10. By these definitions, yep, since most of the women in my family also have big boobs. Who knew my granny was a slut?
    11. Yep, but you’re going to want to remove those scare quotes.
    12. You realize that not everyone is American, right?
    13. Nope
    14. Again, not everyone is American.
    15. And once more!
    16. Nope.
    17. Tequila shots – sure, if it’s good tequila, preferably anejo. No on those particular drugs.
    18. Nope. Working with the big-time ones tends to lead to giving the try-hards a lot of side-eye.
    19. Nope.
    20. You mean in the “before you even ask, the answer is no” sense, right?
    21. Nope. My Dad is made of awesome.
    22. Yep
    23. Nope. See earlier comment about skin cancer, plus I’m lazy.
    24. Not for a while, but it used to be purple.
    25. Oh hell no.
    26. Nope
    27. Nope
    28. Yep
    29. Sometimes. Depends on the quality of booze on offer and whether or not I have to work the next day.
    30. Nope, never done either one.

  36. Yeah, the whole “cheerleader” and sundry everyone-is-American lines had me rolling my eyes. Not that it’s any great surprise to add parochialism to his failings.

  37. I mean, um, I was a gymnast? It’s a similar skillset?

  38. I’m with neuroticbeagle on this one – no athletic activities for me. I spent a good deal of time at high school forging notes to get out of PE classes.

    Also what are fuckfest locations? That could mean anywhere people* are having sex. I’ve travelled to Edinburgh, Hobart, York, Maroochydore, Sydney, Los Angeles, Glasgow and Milwaukee on my own, and the friends I was meeting in some of those places are all women. Does that mean those places are fuckfests now? Who knew? Hell, I commute to Melbourne all on my lonesome (apart from the few hundred others on the train) every day. What does that say about the place?

    *except GoldSpooge, obviously

  39. We were walking past a bar with outdoor tables this afternoon in Galveston. One woman caught my eye because she had a really pretty tattoo on her upper chest. As we passed by, her friend pointed their finger at her and said “Slutteh!” and they both laughed. I almost started laughing myself. I can’t help but hope the whole world has read this stupid thing and is laughing at the author.

  40. According to my personal experience the sluttiest places on earth are Glasgow and London. Of course this might just be because I was spending time there in my late teens and early twenties…nah, it was true for me so it are fact.

  41. The sluttiest place I’ve every experienced is San Antonio, but I’m sure it was just me. And him and him and him.

  42. @LBT: Thanks for the explanation!

  43. Rogan – seconding Dvarg’s thanks. Do system members choose to have particular things the vessel has, like tatts, and can you get rid of them if you want, or do they just sort of come with the package?

    It’s probably no surprise that Mac having had a prior, external (for want of a better word) life gets me really curious, but asking anything’s way too much “none of my business” territory. Anyways I’m loving the image of you combing Mr Princess’s hair. Long-hair-combing is the best (giving or receiving). At least until the comb hits a tangle OW!

  44. No! My hair is too curly, anyone comes near it with a comb I will not be happy.

    (Unless it’s wet and they’re combing conditioner through it, and even then fingers work better.)

  45. I use a rake comb on mine, though if I dry comb it, I have to sprinkle it afterward. Revitafoam is a nice stay-in conditioner/light mousse for curling the ends. Worst product I’ve had was one my hairdresser used the other week. I think it was called Wire or Wired and that’s just how my hair felt – coarse, dry and wiry. I can’t believe she thought I’d like having that stuff in my hair. It felt disgusting.

    Fortunately frizz and such isn’t an issue over There! :)

  46. I read them ages ago, Argenti, but will have to refresh my memory, since I don’t recall if this was covered. :)

  47. Oh I beg to differ about the bouquet of beer! Each beer has its own unique fragrance, and I smell each beer before I drink it. Different sorts of hops particulalry have great fragrance. Go get some Hazed and Infused and tell me you don’t smell a hint of weed! It’s a beautiful thing, those pungent hops. <3

    Please stop drinking crappy beer, thank you. ;)

  48. Mac’s origins are covered in terms of “just ask him”

    Also, I suffered a serious case of Cat Anger Consequences earlier, my arm is all torn up, most of em fairly deep as far as cat scratches go. All for scooping her when she’s usually fairly okay with being scooped up!

  49. RE: Kittehs

    Do system members choose to have particular things the vessel has, like tatts, and can you get rid of them if you want, or do they just sort of come with the package?

    Minor things — hair dye, wardrobe change — can be done at will, but any big things generally have to be planned and performed with the same prep that the corporeal thing would. I couldn’t get my body inked without the vessel getting it too; there are no tattoo artists in our head!

    The short version of Mac’s prior life is: he was raised in a Mississippi not entirely like our own, worked for the government, died in a horrible workplace accident at twenty-seven, and ended up here.

  50. Thanks, Rogan! It’s the “ended up here” part that gets my attention (surprise).

    Gods, I’m feeling down today after the election here. It’s going to be like the Howard years all over again, with added racism, homophobia and misogyny.

  51. Bummer about your politics. Ass.

    And yeah, how Mac got here is honestly one of those things that I’ve just accepted I may never understand. There is more between heaven and earth than is dreamt of in my philosophy, and I got a loving husband out of it, so my job is to smile, nod, and accept it.

  52. There is more between heaven and earth than is dreamt of in my philosophy, and I got a loving husband out of it, so my job is to smile, nod, and accept it.

    High fives, that says it so well, Horatio! ;)

  53. I will say this about my life; it’s really pounded the wisdom into me that I don’t know nearly as much as I think I do.

  54. Even more so, and at an earlier age than lots of us, I’d say!

    Heh – that made me think of a line in the Barchester Chronicles, when the old Bishop is dying and says “There is so much I want to find out!” That then reminded me of the near grilling I got from my best friend’s fiance last time I visited LA – he couldn’t fathom how I could be crossing the veil and not running around trying to find out ALL THE THINGS. It took my bf some time to get it through to him that 1) curiosity and interests differ and 2) I had a quarter-century’s frustrations to make up for, and the rest of the world(s) can wait! It’s not like there’s a time limit, after all. :D

  55. In my case, I tended to immediately try and dissect, analyze, and figure out everything, but when I did, I had to accept that sometimes, I just wouldn’t get any answers. (See: Falcon, who after ten plus years here, I still only know the most basic of information about.) Also, Mac’s memory is still pretty fucked up, and trying to force something out of it will often just get nonsense, which freaks him out even worse. (Can you blame him? Confabulating bullshit without realizing it is pretty alarming.)

  56. I tended to do the whole trying to analyse everything and figure it all out and get concrete answers about Big Questions when I was first in contact with Louis, too. I’ve pretty much lost all interest in doing so, though, because our quiet life together is really much more interesting to me. And it’s not like he’s a Big Questions sort of person these days, either, or has the answers. He once said his understanding of the creator was “a consciousness but not a personality,” and that was all it really took to kill off the lingering questions about an anthropomorphic deity (an idea I’d long since loathed) in my mind.

    There’s even a sort-of parallel with asking about his earthly life and you asking Mac about his. It’s not that he can’t recall, or it gets wharblegarble, but it’s so long ago it’s almost irrelevant, now (only one tenth of his life, after all). In the early days he was almost impatient when I’d ask him about it. He’ll answer stuff now, but I’m less curious, because who he is is a long way from who he was, and life’s a lot more fun now. Fun was seriously lacking in his earthly days.

    One thing I do have to put out: the other day he was watching me knit on the tram, and I asked if he likes watching me do stuff the same as I like watching him (yes, our life is so exciting). The conversation got a bit fudged on terminlogy, but one thing he said was wonderful: “I have an importance in your life I have in no other.” He wasn’t saying poor-him, or feeling unloved (!!!) or anything of the sort; he was saying how different it is between us, and that it moves him profoundly. (He just said “Add ‘the joy’!”)

    We both waited a bloody long time for this, and to have one’s feelings returned …

  57. Yeah, in our case, it wasn’t like he got any answers when he kicked the bucket. It was a horrible, soulcrushing experience, he took the first out he got, and nobody ever explained to him what it meant or why it happened. And just because he died that way doesn’t mean anyone else will. So it really doesn’t matter anyway.

  58. Bloody frightening – that’s awful Mac had no help when he passed. It seems too easy for things to go wrong then.

  59. I didn’t realize you had a system member named Falcon, LBT. (some friend I am, huh?)

    Would zie like me to find another handle? My first reaction is to think there’s no problem because y’all haven’t said anything and I haven’t noticed hir commenting here, but you know, straight white male and kind of a lazy thinker, so I thought maybe I better ask.

  60. @Falconer From what I gathered Rogan is the only member that comments here and Falcon isn’t a permanent system member- more like a visitor that comes and goes whenever zie feels like it. So you should be fine, but please correct me if I’m wrong.

  61. That’s pretty much how I understand it too, neuroticbeagle.

    Plus, it’s not like blog nyms aren’t going to overlap with actual names sooner or later – I’ve spoken to CatieCat on Pharyngula and I’m pretty sure zie’s not my Katie Cat! :)

  62. Someday I’ll meet somebody here whose name is actually Howard.

    That will be awkward.

  63. I can’t believe people are dumb enough to believe this sort of claptrap…

  64. Someday I’ll meet somebody here whose name is actually Howard.

    That will be awkward.

    Me grandda’ and Beloved’s grandda’ were both named Howard, but hers went by his first name because he didn’t like the name Howard.

  65. Oh no! I fit some of those things on the list and have never had sex! How could I be such a slut?! I DIDN’T EVEN REALIZE I WAS!!

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