Over on Chateau Heartiste, the Heartiste formerly known as Roissy is in full-blown white supremacist mode today.
Apparently what got dear old Mr. H in an especially racist mood was a comment from a reader called Libertardian who suggested that, while in the good old days, civilization used to rein in the alleged worst tendencies of women, “in the West we had to abolish civilization because it was hurting people’s feelings.”
This little comment was enough to send Mr. H into a full-blown keyboard-smash Whitepocalypse rage.
Every monster and manboob, every fat feminist and single mom, every quadgender and third world wretched refuse had to be appeased and their crocodile tears dried, and the cause of all their histrionically dramatized hurty — white civilization itself — razed to make room for the glorious vomit of vibrancy that is currently prolapsing the rectum of the historical West.
You get double points if you were able to make sense of that mess of a sentence on the first pass. Why is it that so many cultural elitists and would-be defenders of civilization are such terrible writers?
Just a note on usage here: When alt-right types use the terms “vibrancy” or “vibrant” it’s their oh-so-clever, oh-so-sarcastic way of referring to racial diversity and/or people who aren’t white.
God looked over all that He had made, and saw that it was good. The leftoid looked over all that his ancestors had made, and saw that it was good enough to squander. And on the eighth day, the leftoid rested his gated community security detail.
Yeah, I can count the number of “leftoids” I know that live in gated communities on the fingers of my imaginary third hand.
Anyway, it’s helpful for Heartiste to remind us from time to time how comprehensive his hate really is. And that many of his followers are even worse than he is in this regard.
Naturally, in the comments, some of these terrible people added their terrible thoughts.
everybodyhatesscott, for his part, was in the mood for murdering elected officials:
I really hope I’m still alive to see it when we brings the guillotines back. I’d say 2/3+ of our representatives are deserving of it and it’s probably closer to 4/5′s. Granted, the gallows are more american.
cryo, in a comment in which he cranked the racism up to eleven, reported from the front lines of Hartford, Connecticut:
I was in the metro part of Hartford, Connecticut the other day. Might as well have been in the Third World. After working hours, all decent working folk flee to the surrounding suburbs. What’s left over is hideous to behold: packs of feral pavement apes roaming the blighted and burnt-out neighborhoods. What once were charming and historic Victorian houses are now blasted crack dens of eldritch horror. Niglets as young as 8 running around with loaded guns and terrorizing public parks. Whores peddling their fetid vaginas in front of Jamaican bodegas and Check$ Ca$hed places.
This is pretty much the future of any eastern seaboard city that isn’t attractive to SWPLs [white liberals]. It will get worse and worse until finally the madness starts to invade the suburbs. By then, whites and other human species will have to live in a constant state of uncertainty and fear. Section 8 housing and minority pandering are the greatest weapon the ruling class has: blacks especially are a potent biological weapon that can wipe out entire civilized communities in less than a decade
Dan Fletcher, meanwhile, suggested that the only solution to all this is to go to infinity … and beyond. Literally. Convinced that people turn to “artificial. Feminism, multicult, white-guilt” ideologies only when they’ve got no new frontiers to explore, he argued that
the halt on human space exploration has been such a tragedy. Space is the next frontier. Mankind’s survival and salvation. A new frontier and a new struggle for people to throw themselves into. Something real and dangerous. A stark contrast to the petty vapidness of the social justice whack-jobs and other assorted fairies. A true adventure.
With nothing to fight against, people fight against themselves in a desperate bid to fulfill their primal need for struggle. Time to get off this rock.
Dan, I agree wholeheartedly with that last sentence. I would happily donate to a project to put you, Heartiste and the rest of his fans on a rocket to Uranus.
Not to mention the racism in countries that aren’t colonies and aren’t white. Japan comes to mind as one obvious example, or the racism of northern vs southern Indians (though I have no idea if that’s a colonial inheritance or predates the European presence).
And even if we were to stick strictly to the US the idea that racism = slavery ignores the way that, say, Chinese immigrants were treated (or the Japanese internment camps during WW2).
Don’t forget Hispanic racism, which I’m actually the MOST familiar with, being from Texas. (My brother chides our granny for her anti-black racism, but is totally up-front that he’s racist against Hispanics.)
“Probable sources” = assfax.
Come on, you’ve been around here for long enough to know that if you do that people will point out the missing detail. Also, phrasing it like that makes it sound like an attempt at propaganda, and although my ideological sympathies lie far to the left too I’m going to have to point out that a humor blog isn’t really the right place for that kind of thing, comrade.
What did you expect, when you framed it in “workers’ struggle” terms? Of course the whole “it’s a plot by The Man” phrasing was going to be mocked.
…and again I’m left wondering how simple concepts end up so messy. Humans, like the rest of the apes (actually, I’m not sure on gorillas, but I suspect them too) naturally sort people // members of their species into “like me” and “not like me” — this is one of very few points that I will grant ev-psych — said in v out grouping makes it easier to quickly determine how someone will react. Not with certainty of course, but a fair guess. And the “not like me” category comes with an inherent wariness since they’re less easy to predict. And thus we fear “the other”, whatever that may mean in context.
Too much psych, didn’t read version — we’re hard wired to be wary of people not like us because we can more readily predict how people like us will react.
And yes, people in power will exploit those differences to keep minorities from collaborating. Oldest example I know of is classical Rome — roman slaves had a status above enemy slaves (in fact, I think this is the source of “indentured servitude”, I could be wrong on the source of the concept, but the term has Latin roots)
So yeah, way older than American slavery. At least 2,000 years old, and probably older (considering other apes do similar, probably Really Fucking Old)
Hmm…I bet I can find a citation on roman social structure that includes this, and I need the distraction.
Sorry, slightly mistaken on roman slavery — the full and complete no rights and can be crucified slaves could be roman or not, the other class I was thinking of, nexum, were citizen debtors who retained their rights as citizens (and thus had to be citizens in the first place).
And yes, I said crucifixion, exactly the sort you’re thinking of (and worse, slaves could only give testimony in court if tortured…at least in the period I know…some fucked up nonsense about slaves being privy to important info being too loyal to give it up freely)
Rome, easily as fucked up as American slavery, though based as much on money as race.
I really hope Nezumi isn’t another one of those anarchists who say that all forms of oppression are invented by statists. They’re a real headache.
No, just someone using what sociological information I had to come to some conclusions that were partially accurate (the way racism is exploited by the elite to foment division and retain power) and partially inaccurate. Although yes, there were other forms of colonial-era racism, which helped justify colonialism at all — justifying genocide and taking land by classifying the natives as less than human, or at least less than white, European people.
Not to mention Tacitus’ story that when a prefect was murdered by one of his slaves, all the slaves in his household were executed as punishment. (To be fair, this decision was so unpopular that it almost started a revolt.)
If I knew that one, I’d forgotten it. That is really fucked up.
Nezumi: I’m… just referring to the probable sociological origins of modern racism. It can’t be reliably traced back farther than the colonial era, and if not intentionally created, was at least cultivated as a tool to divide black slaves from white indentured servants.
Really? I have to say I have a slightly better (even if it comes off as being differently cynical). I don’t think it was about classing white indentured servants differently to “blacks” so much as a tool of rationalisation to justify the horrid things being done to Africans, Indians, Native Americans, South Pacific Islanders, etc.
By making them “less human” the people perpetrating horrifying crimes against them weren’t being “inhuman”, they were just carrying out the natural order of things.
All the rest follows as the night does the day, and doesn’t require some sort of organised plan; just the usual mish-mash of self-valorisation and defensive rationalisation we know everyone to be excellent at doing.
Thus we have that whole “writing historical-fiction characters from societies with problematic aspects” issue.
The story is here, starting at paragraph 42.
Argenti: Classical Slavery was (as you followed up) different. The entire world ran on it (to some degree), and it wasn’t so much about “the other” as “those without power/prospects”. It was understood that everyone had the possibility of ending up a slave (though some people, in the really powerful classes were more likely to be killed out of hand; no one was going to keep a deposed Emperor as an example in a Triumph: not if he was an Emperor of Rome; foreign potentates were different: mostly because there was no faction to come to their rescue).
The quirks of what could/couldn’t be done to a slave were bizarre: in theory a slave was more secure from being killed, out of hand, than a child (though the absolute power of life and death of the paterfamilias was strongly curtailed before the Republic became the Empire, it was still seen as existing in principle). Technically abuse of a slave had to be justified, and they could bring suit. If they prevailed they would be recompensed/freed.
If they lost, they were usually sold off; to some enterprise where life-expectancy was short (say the tin mines of Albion, or [worse] the mines in Syracuse). In practice killing a slave was frowned on, socially, but condoned. Maiming them was strongly frowned on, and much less condoned.
They were, of course, legally possessed of no rights to personal autonomy, though in their spare time they could work for themselves. This was a mixed bag; as the better they were at doing something, the more it would cost them to buy their freedom (and really good secretaries had “easy” lives (compared to free citizens), but pretty much no chance of being freed (Cato, I think, got around to freeing his; whom he kept on as a client/employee, but if he’d thought he was going to leave, no manumission).
The rise of factory systems increased the loss of freedoms; and then the shifts in Rome which came of the various aspects of its “collapse” meant more people who were free, in the letter of the law, but ceded rights to keep food in their mouths, which (because of the aforementioned factory farms) led to the rise of what became serfdom and villeinage.
“quadgender”?1?
I’ve already changed from female to male. I’m delirious imaging what quad genders might look like and swooning at what that might mean for my private bits.
RE: Jay Sennett
Oh, we quadgenders? We all look like thighs.
Give it up, dude. You’re not as funny, not as smart, and not as good a writer as Roissy. You’re status quo, you’re the boring and predictable norm, and you don’t get it, nor will you ever.
The guy ranting about space reminds me of Stiffed.
Stopped reading at “terrible writers.” Say what you will about this PUA shit, Roissy is one fuck of an author.
One who can’t fucking write?
Or maybe they meant one dumbfuck of an author.
The irony is that if you go to his blog he writes in a calm, neutral and logical tone. It’s hard to disagree with what he’s saying and his writing is something to behold.
Whereas I read your article and it seems like you are frothing with hate. Which is easier to understand and relate to… someone like yourself with an agenda or someone like Heartiste to lays it out perfectly for the reader? Rhetorical.
From your first line this article seems like a hit piece and makes the reader tune out. If you write with less emotion maybe you can discredit his beliefs for the logical reader instead of driving hits to his site.
Clean up crew, there’s a tone troll pooping in aisle 5.
Not really, no.
It sure is. “Behold! Prose so turgid and purple as to make Robert E. Howard blush in shame!”
Calm and rational?
…yeah, rrright.
How can it be hard to disagree with what is written (though for five short paragraphs of hate spewing, “writing” seems somewhat an exaggerated term) there if the author doesn’t even raise a single argument! It’s just ranting and rambling… in fact, it does seem as if it is that author who is frothing at the mouth. Certainly with formulations like “glorious vomit of vibrancy”.
Whereas David simply used mockery here.
*yawn*
Tone trolls are so boring.
Archimedes,
Why do you assume nobody here has read the blog. I’ve read a couple of his posts and they are anything but calm, neutral and logical. He’s a bigot. There’s nothing logical about that.
Go smear your feces elsewhere.
When you consider Heartiste’s rage-frothy, evidence-less, overwrought bit of poorly-argued dreck to be calm, neutral and logical, the problem lies with you, not with the person who points out how horribly racist and sexist Heartiste and his commenters are. There’s nothing calm, neutral or logical about a blog-entry that compares people of color to animals, considers white men to be the only builders of all that is good and civilized, and blames women, people of color and “Leftoids” for all the evils in the world because they are destroying white male civilization. That’s not calm, neutral and logical. That’s flat-out sexist and racist.
Are you quite serious there, Archimedes?
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Yes, it does appear that the Cathedral’s entire 60-year project of dismantling the West to its pre-civilizational state is the rotten fruit of the leftoids’ REM-ish “everybody hurts” infantile morality hitched to the engine of their endless war against their heretic racial cousins.
God looked over all that He had made, and saw that it was good. The leftoid looked over all that his ancestors had made, and saw that it was good enough to squander. And on the eighth day, the leftoid rested his gated community security detail.
I do therefore humbly offer it to publick consideration, that of the hundred and twenty thousand children, already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle, or swine, and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore, one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in sale to the persons of quality and fortune, through the kingdom, always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump, and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.
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I mean, really.
Really-really.
It’s okay, you can tell me, I won’t judge.
But I think, perhaps, like your name-sake on the moon, you are cold, bereft of air, incapable of supporting human life and generally exist in a vacuum.
Aaaaand Fibi wins another internetz, with bon-bons.
The Chateau author is an incredible writer (Riossy ??) who explores very interesting topics. His observations on society are incredibly enlightening. I am left many times thinking wow I didn’t notice that before but there is alot of truth right there. There is some very strong language and he ridicules women and minorities and it is harsh but I find it palatable because for many people what he observes is very visceral. How many of us have been in a place after working hours and seen it all go to hell and fast and not think to ourselves our world is going to hell and a hand basket? Or how women who raise hell about how they should be treated turn around and seek out the most ardent bad boy there is? I am reluctant to call these observations/feelings racist or bigoted. I think each person should be judged on how he treats people in life not what he thinks about certain groups. There are plenty of people I know that treat all people with respect but understand the importance of not accepting the PC narrative and thinking and expressing themselves freely.
Frank thinks Heartiste’s overwrought purple prose is “incredible writing” and blatant sexism and racism “palatable.”
Might I suggest something, Frank? Maybe actually go read something that’s actually good writing? There are a lot of great books out there by writers that are truly skilled. I’m sure the librarians at your local library would have some good recommendations to get you started. Oh yes, and kindly fuck off with the “racism and sexism are totally justified because women and POC totally suck, amirite?” shit.
What a logic pretzel it takes to determine that making fun of minorities isn’t racist.
Someone w”ho spells ‘a lot’ as ‘alot’ and thinks the expression is “hell and a basket” is probably not the best judge of high quality writing.
The use of the word visceral cracks me up too. I’m sure he doesn’t quite know what the word means. Or maybe he does and is just admitting that Heartiste’s writing is not based in fact but that it feels true in his gut so it’s “palatable
In response to “Sparky” and “Katz”, we are talking about blogs here not Hemingway or Kerouac. Chateau is an interesting, humorous and well a written BLOG or what I would call Streams Of Consciousness. I think folks should be careful who they call ‘Racist’, I would imagine you have very close associates perhaps family members that have “racist” thoughts and you wouldn’t know any better. Regarding this author, I praise him for having the balls to say what is on his mind and I will always defend that over the censorship of what is becoming a very hiveminded culture. I’ve taken a journey in life where I was very much like you are today, I was very sensitive and possessed with a faux outrage over comments made on the INTERNET. However, as I experienced real life and all of its characters I realized that the people I was so bent on defending would turn on me in a heartbeat. We are all tribal and every race has there prejudices.
It takes far more skill and maturity to express your beliefs in a non-offensive way. Roissy just spews torrents of hatred and tries to pass it off as innovative writing. That doesn’t make him closer to the truth, it just means he’s too lazy and uneducated to consider the world outside his own head.
There’s your problem right there. You can’t tell the difference between your own gut feelings, and objective observations of what actually goes on in the world.
For example, you “feel” that feminists want equality but then turn around and date “bad boys”. What makes them “bad boys” (other than the fact that they’re not you?) Can you define “bad”? Have you actually observed feminists partnering up with convicted felons in the real world, or is this just a story you tell yourself?
What does this mean? Which places? Gas stations? Hockey rinks? Corrie lochs? How do they go to hell? Why do they wait until after working hours? Are there places that go to hell slowly?
I tell my racist grandpa when he says something racist all the time. It’s fucking embarrassing and unacceptable. I don’t give my loved ones a free pass. I certainly won’t be giving a free pass to Internet bigots.
There is a minimum standard of decency in writing and in humanity. Misogynists and white supremacists fail to meet minimum standard of decent human being 101. Go away.
And therefore, somehow, all outrage is faux. What you’re doing there, son, is called “projection”, wherein you assume that everyone else feels things and assumes things exactly the way you do. We do not.
*Their* prejudices. Yes, we do, and we can choose to be aware of them, and correct and compensate for them. Or we can choose to embrace them, and metaphorically shit all over the targets of our prejudices.
“[H]ell and a hand basket” has be thinking of Ricky from Trailer Park Boys” “passed with flying carpets”.
It probably doesn’t bode well for someone that their argument resembles something from Trailer Park Boys.
So Frank,
Your argument is that we shouldn’t assume people who say racist things are racist because some other white person might be thinking racist things and not saying them out loud? How does that make sense? How do you get from point A to point B?
Would this place happen to be DIRECTLY ON THE BEACH?
Frank, let me be frank with you:
There is little to no bravery in being a racist and sexist blogger catering to racist and sexist readers.
Also, I’m fairly certain that you aren’t here in any sort of good faith.
Have a nice day, and please go your own way. We certainly don’t require your continued presence.
WWTH – it’s the old “If everybody’s racist, then nobody’s racist!” trick.
Go home everybody, world harmony has been achieved!
WWTH: I got nothing. I guess he thinks if we have racist relatives and we call someone else racist, we’re being hypocritical, but really I can’t think straight right now.
The s00pid! It burns!!
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Too much snarkiness here to respond to all … but you do realize that your own commentary and insults speaks volumes about you? If you think of yourself as morally superior does it make sense to act just like Chateau on this board with someone with whom you disagree?
May I suggest you try out these arguments around the water cooler in the office? See how well your “racist” tar and feathering concepts would go. May I suggest the tried and true Liberal “white privileged” meme? I would love to see how well that would go over for you before you are labeled a complete nut job. The thing is you folks are cut from the same cloth as a Chateau, your thought process is obviously as cynical and intolerant and it is a thought process that is not tolerated in polite company. What we all share on the internet is the ability to actually think as we really are and lets face it we are all intolerant and ignorant of each other. But lets go back to greeting each other on the street with a smile and chat about the weather. ***BTW I tried to clean up my diction and spelling, hoping the grammar nazi on here cuts me some slack. ***
It’s a mockery site. I’m sure it says that somewhere. Also, which co-workers should I try to convince that racism is cool? The Filipino ones? The black ones? The FN ones?
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