An All-Goat Interpretation of the Men’s Rights Movement

I’m working on a longer post about you-know-who. In the meantime, enjoy these goats doing their best interpretation of the Men’s Rights movement.

But wait, there’s more!

And while we’re at it, here are some baby alpacas trying to figure out what a puppy is:

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Posted on July 28, 2013, in cuteness, dawgies, off topic. Bookmark the permalink. 119 Comments.

  1. Historophilia

    I’m on the hunt for a much smaller wallet that will fit into a pocket (due to the curse of the tiny , useless or non-existant pockets on womens clothing) as mine is huge and I honestly can’t remember why I bought a big one when most of the space isn’t used.

    I wish I could go handbag-less, and if the weather is right to wear my barbour jacket I usually do because it has a massive inside pocket which is really secure.

    But if I’m wearing a different coat or none at all it’s impossible. I can fit a phone and keys in my jeans pockets, but not much more and there’s a fair amount of other stuff that I tend to need.

    I like to be able to keep lip balm and hand cream on me as my skin gets quite dry, bottle of water because if I don’t drink enough when I’m out and about I get migraines, ibuprofen and plasters (in case of migraine, period pains or shoes rubbing), a little purse with a few tampons in case of sudden attack of early/late period, little packet of tissues, throat pastilles, fold up umberella because yo London weather, at least one pen, hand sanitiser because public toilets always run out of soap.

    And then I have my purse and also oyster card holder which is the third essential item if you live in London, in fact probably the most essential. If I lost my phone, wallet and keys but not my oyster card I can at least get home with it.

    But yeah, while I love being able to go bagless, if I have to have a bag I at least make good use of it with all emergency supplies on hand. And the one I have is big and squishy and can fit a whole coat folded up in it if needed which is the world most useful thing, but doesn’t take up much space when not full. But now it’s falling apart because it was only an H and M job for less than £20 and I’ve had it for years and I can’t find a good replacement :(

  2. Crmsnfrn,
    Ewww…. That’s so creepy.

  3. I’m also the big wallet / bag type person (I like messenger bags a lot).

    In my wallet: My cards, cash, pictures, 3 pendrives (one with portable apps, one with bootable Linux, and one empty), an eraser … and a Yu-gi-oh card.

    In my bag: an A5 ring binder with paper, “important notes” and a mechanical pencil; my phone, tissues, bottle of water, a CJ ball, screw drivers, e-book reader.

    Did I mention that I was the IT at my last workplace?

  4. Curses! At a time when I can’t watch videos, too! :’( (babysitting)

    @Augochlorella

    Mom: You know how you look at guy’s butts?

    Me: Yes…

    Mom: Well when women look at men’s butts they’re actually looking for their wallets.

    Me: *activates parent escape pod*

    Aaauuuuuuuggggh. Wow. You have my sympathies.

    @cloudiah

    Remember that episode of Seinfeld, where George Costanza had a really fat wallet but it was all receipts and shit? Shouldn’t that have made him the most attractive dude on earth?

    That’s how my wallet is XD Its a good thing I carry my wallet in my purse, otherwise I would be too sexy to bear!

    @david

    I wonder if anyone could come up with a good evo psych explanation of the wallet thing. Did the most skilled mammoth hunters have weird rectagular bumps on their asses?

    IT’S SCIENCE!!!!!!ELEVEN

    @stormster

    Hey guys, would it be possible to vent her about something, or should I go to an open thread?

    Assuming the rest of everyone’s ok with it, I’m cool with you venting here.

    @viscaria

    Throughout evolutionary history, female humans have always chosen males with fat, flat buttock pads for their mating partners. The females recognized that their male offspring, should they inherit the rectangular buttock deposits, would have a better chance of survival; as they, like females, would be able to sit on hard surfaces.

    That explains SO MUCH! XD

    @Kittehs, well what it definitely means is any woman not sleeping with Tom is a hyper famous wh*re.

    Cool, I never thought I’d qualify! (Hypergamous, hyper famous, either will do.)

    It’s probably a sign I’ve been reading too much manboobz that my brain auto-corrected hyper famous to hypergamous. XD

    And I’m going to post this before wordpress and/or children eat it.

  5. Randomly one night my dad told me I shouldn’t carry it there because it “spoils the view.” And then he told me I needed to dress more feminine and grow my hair out or I’d never attract a guy./blockquote> Oh what the hell? My skin is crawling like it’s trying to escape and I’ve never felt this pukey this sober.

  6. I fail at blockquoting sober, but when hazy and drunk I get it right? Huh…

  7. I wonder if anyone could come up with a good evo psych explanation of the wallet thing. Did the most skilled mammoth hunters have weird rectagular bumps on their asses?

    Remember how men look for women with symmetrical faces, because it’s a sign of good health? (well, I mean, not really, but in evo-psych land)

    Well, the wallet makes you a-symmetrical.

    And men are the logical sex, right, so we look for healthy people.

    Women look for lop-sided butts, because they’re the opposite of men, and therefore anti-logical.

    You see? SCIENCE! That’s why women love men with big wallets.

  8. I pick handbags based on book sizes, so I have some smaller bags (suitable for phone/wallet/keys/paperback), some medium bags (same but enough room to fit a trade or small hardcover) and a BIG bag (used only for Stephen King epics in hardcovers basically). At least when male acquaintances make the usual jokes about “What do women need these big purses for hurr hurr?” it’s slightly funny when I open the bag, take out a huge book and PLONK it down with a straight face.

  9. You know, even if guys don’t want to deal with the patriarchy induced stigma of carrying a purse, there are still plenty of options that don’t involve having to sit on their wallet. Backpacks, messenger bags, briefcases, tool belts, cargo pants, duffel bags… Heck, I use an old gameboy carrier as a ‘purse’ on days when I don’t need to take my laptop with me.

  10. My purse (what USians call a wallet) is too big for any jeans pocket.

    The wallet/billfold thing has confused more than one Yankee.

    Nine-year-old me got confused while reading Prince Caspian. Caspian’s mentor decides it’s time to go when C’s uncle starts murderizing the royal family, so the text describes him loading food into a wallet. I came up short, thinking, how do you fold a cheese?

    And later, when I was spending four months in France in college, we were reading Stendahl’s Le Rouge et Le Noir (in English), and the protagonist is described as carrying a purse, leading one of the leading lights of the bro faction to conclude the guy was a “f*****.”

    <blockquote.But why carry them all the time? I put only the stuff I know I’ll need in my tiny wallet/credit card holder.

    Lassitude, and the fear that I might lose something I need if I remove it from the wallet.

    ‘Sprobably time for another pruning. I know I’ve got an expired gift card in there.

    Oh, and my health insurance card is as important as my driver’s license, even though my health coverage is teh suxx0rs. I sit in a one-ton vehicle and rocket along at 50 mph at least twice a day, most days. It’s a wonder I’ve survived this long.

    Randomly one night my dad told me I shouldn’t carry it there because it “spoils the view.”

    Ew.

    I can’t stand putting my wallet in my back pocket. Instead, as a rule, I put it in my left pocket for some reason.

    For some reason, wallet and phone in my right pocket, keys, chapstick and any flash/thumb/pen drives in my left. Then I carry groceries or books in my left hand, requiring some juggling when I need to unlock a door.

    The biggest bag I carry is just a book bag. I usually use it on my way to game night, and I load up ALL THE BOOKS in it because I’m anal.

    CURSE D&D for having three core rulebooks.

  11. Three out of four ain’t bad.

    Heck, I use an old gameboy carrier as a ‘purse’ on days when I don’t need to take my laptop with me.

    I once found some little thing with a strap and a front pocket, and a belt loop, to carry my Gameboy in. This was an old-school ‘boy, mind, as big as a brick with a two-inch, four-shades-of-gray screen that ran on four AAs (how universal is the AA battery? Anybody here need a link?). I could fit six of its humongous carts in the front pocket and wedge a couple more in the main pocket with the ‘boy.

  12. @Podkayne
    Yes, those jokers are annoying. I extrapolate that they are probably not geeks, because most geeks could understand a need for a bag that could carry books, DVDs, laptops, cords, gaming systems, notebooks, art supplies, lunch…

  13. My pockets are starting to get overloaded. Too much electronics, too much stuff. No good solution in the future. I may have to get some kind of bag to carry around with me.

  14. I tend to find wallets/bags that I like for aesthetic reasons, and then adapt to their size. For a while I had the world’s tiniest backpack, so pretty much all I carried was my wallet, though in a pinch I could fit a netbook or iPad in there awkwardly. I bought my current favorite purse because it reminded me of a bowling bag; it’s not massive, but I can easily fit my wallet, ebook reader, iPad, travel umbrella, lipbalm, phone, bus card, etc. (My sister always carries what I call her Mary Poppins bag, a huge thing which contains every single thing she would need to survive 2 weeks alone in the Himalayas, or a day at work in New Haven.)

    My wallet is a lovely thing I bought in Denmark.

    But if I’m going somewhere where a purse is inconvenient, I just take ID, cash, one credit card and my keys, and they all go in my pockets.

  15. I love purses/handbags, so I have several I use depending on my outfit or mood. Usually though, if I’m just running errands, I just cram my cards into a pocket.

    I usually have my work keycard in my bra, since women’s clothes have tiny or no pockets.

  16. Backpack. Or a bumbag (aka fannypack) for minimalism. Sizes vary and also styles depending on if I’m going to work, study, forage, recreation or what.

    I cannot carry a handbag without wanting to clonk someone over the head with it, can’t carry a shoulder bag since I lived in the bag-snatching capital of Europe many years ago, and … what is a clutchbag anyway? and what’s the point of something you can’t fit pen, notebook, sketchpad and reading material into?

    Also it leaves your hands free.

  17. I prefer using a purse instead of pockets. Mostly because women’s clothes have tiny pockets, and many of my clothes have no pockets, so it’s easier. I also cram a lot of stuff in it, and that way I know so long as I have my purse I’ve got all my stuff. (learners permit, sunglasses, random make up, ect.)

  18. Historophilia: Have you considered a tyvek paper wallet? It’s the same material used in the thin FedEx packages, so it’s pretty durable, and my brother has been using one I got him for christmas a few years back.

    http://www.vat19.com/dvds/the-mighty-wallet.cfm

  19. I don’t want to derail the wallet discussion, but my post about you-know-who is up.

  20. In high school I’d always carry my wallet in my back pocket, as I hated (and still hate) carrying purses. Randomly one night my dad told me I shouldn’t carry it there because it “spoils the view.”

    Eww. Sorry that happened.

    I’m reminded of when I was 20 or so and living with my uncle and his girlfriend. He swatted my behind when I was bending to get something from a low cupboard in the kitchen in a dressing gown. Apparently he “had to,” because it was “right there.”

  21. @viscaria

    Ew. Your uncle sounds like a real asshole.

  22. But is he really an asshole, or do women’s butts exist just to be swatted? (Answer: he is kind of an asshole.)

  23. I remember one afternoon when I was in middle school, after the buses had arrived and we’d been dismissed, standing in the scrum around the lockers waiting to get a chance to get to mine. A young woman standing in front of me swung her purse up and over her shoulder, and she must not have thought anyone was behind her, because she swung it up high and hit me in the cheek.

    She was apologetic, but you know how schools are. Within five minutes some other boy came up to congratulate me for being bold enough to grab her butt, which he’d heard prompted the purse-swatting.

  24. Had to do things! On the creepy dad is creepy thing:

    It is certainly one of the creepiest things he’s ever said to me. :l
    I remember saying something along the lines of not giving a fuck about people’s view of my ass. Then I left the room.

    I feel the need to explain that he probably meant it, along the same line of growing my hair long and dressing feminine, as a ‘please stop acting like a lesbian.’ He was very afraid I would end up gay. So, it was more homophobic then anything else.

  25. I’m reminded of when I was 20 or so and living with my uncle and his girlfriend. He swatted my behind when I was bending to get something from a low cupboard in the kitchen in a dressing gown. Apparently he “had to,” because it was “right there.”

    Ugh. I’ve had a few male relatives pull the same shit. There’s no limit to how not fucking right that crap is.

  26. In high school I’d always carry my wallet in my back pocket, as I hated (and still hate) carrying purses. Randomly one night my dad told me I shouldn’t carry it there because it “spoils the view.” And then he told me I needed to dress more feminine and grow my hair out or I’d never attract a guy.

    =S Wow that’s creepy.

    My dad has told my sister something similar. He doesn’t want her to do weight-lifting because he thinks that no man will marry her if she looks “like a man.” >_>

  27. My dad has told my sister something similar. He doesn’t want her to do weight-lifting because he thinks that no man will marry her if she looks “like a man.” >_>

    Yuck.

    On the other hand, I’d say it’s an excellent way to weed out the kind of people you wouldn’t want to date in the first place. They have a problem with a woman who lifts weights? Well, isn’t that INTERESTING.

    What exactly about a strong woman intimidates you?

  28. And just because we’re talking about women weight-lifting…

    http://www.themarysue.com/13-year-old-bench-presses-240-lbs/

    Have a 13-year-old benchpressing 240 pounds.

  29. Man, I get irritated with my family because they don’t believe the gender wage gap is a thing and they’re douchey about a lot of other stuff, but at least they don’t grab my butt or tell my sister and I that we can’t work out because we’ll look too manly. Hell, my dad makes it a competition with my sister when it comes to lifting or erging. Give thanks for small blessings, I suppose.

  30. Oh feh, I was logged into one of my other accounts… Sorry about that!

  31. My dad has told my sister something similar. He doesn’t want her to do weight-lifting because he thinks that no man will marry her if she looks “like a man.”

    Ugh. Two summers ago he was scolded me for cutting my hair really short, about 1 1/2 inches all over. He asked me why I ‘dyked my head’, then spent the entire lunch break we had telling me how my then deployed husband was going to leave me and he wouldn’t blame him in the slightest.

  32. Christ, the creepy male family member stories. O_O

    Re: wallets, I am so completely unwilling to carry anything in my hands, let alone a handbag. But I totally understand with the lack of real pockets. :(

    Personally it’s phone right pocket, wallet and keys left. My partner’s the other way around. I figure it’s normal to get quite attached to where you keep such things. :D

  33. crmsnfrn | July 29, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    Ugh. Two summers ago he was scolded me for cutting my hair really short, about 1 1/2 inches all over. He asked me why I ‘dyked my head’, then spent the entire lunch break we had telling me how my then deployed husband was going to leave me and he wouldn’t blame him in the slightest.

    Ahhhhh! So much sympathy.

    Vaguely related: it’s very interesting how much people’s perception of me has changed since I shaved my head. It has alleviated my dysphoria quite a lot, but it’s not like I actually feel more masculine with a shaved head – I just am perceived differently. And I have enjoyed the extra attention I’ve got from the ladies, I must say.

  34. guffaw-ferrets

    Fibi — Haha! My thoughts pretty much exactly!

    Re, wallets and bags: Timbuk2s are for females too! I promise.

    My “purse” is actually an old-school camera bag I found while on a train/bus trip across America. It is the size of a small backpack, with many interior compartments and a very sturdy shoulder/crossbody strap — so it can fit most books, an iPad if I had one, notebooks, a spare shirt or sweater for in-between climates, and even my netbook in a pinch. Not only that, but it’s tooled leather, like an old-timey Western saddle. I do not ascribe a gender to it, because, why? Then again, I’m the type of woman who wears “mannish” blazers* a lot and sews inner pockets into them if they don’t already come with (a major selling point; I’ve already thrifted blazers simply for their inner pockets), so the bag just kinda goes with the rest of the ensemble.

    When it’s hot out, though, or when my back is giving me trouble, I just haul around a big-ass canvas tote with a pillow to sit on, and a small phone/keys/transit card-sized purse that I put on my lap when I’m sitting on the pillow. This has saved me at several recent gigs, when I’ve used the pillow-tote to cushion my back while I lean against the wall. Venue staff sometimes gently makes fun of me until they see how comfortable I look. Try it out if you wanna.

    * I am of the opinion that clothes, accessories, and styles of tailoring should not be genderized at all, so that anyone could wear anything they want without any stigma or judgment. But naturally the MRM does not agree, because they’re deeply conservative, reactive homophobes who don’t actually care if men get picked on for carrying purses because they truly think there is something inherently “girly” about purses and we all know girls have cooties eew.. Anyway.

    Re, gross male relatives: Yeah. No. Do not want. It sounds like a lot of us here have had them, though (myself included). We could all team up and write a thick-ass book about it, surely. Then throw that book at our gross male relatives.

  35. And I’ve just come home from a seminar at Stockholm Pride held by my personal trainer friend on how to shape your body into looking more masculine/feminine/androgynous with the right kind of body-building! Some assorted advice for people who want to look more masculine:
    - if you have wide hip bones there’s nothing you can do about that, since the skeleton is what it is, but you can make them look narrower by comparison by building bigger thighs and pumping up your side abs.
    - Bigger shoulders, bigger neck and bigger upper back goes a long way toward making a person look more masculine.
    - Boobs will often naturally shrink if you work out a lot.
    - Less body fat will make you look more masculine, but since dieting easily turns unhealthy, try to do as much as possible by building muscles rather than eating less calories.

    I now imagine some random dude rushing into the seminar room screaming “BUT NOBODY WILL EVERY MAAAAAARRY YOU!”.

  36. guffaw-ferrets

    Oh mans … please everyone be careful with the exercising/dieting-to-achieve-a-body-type thing …

    As someone who had devastating orthorexia with side helpings of deep bodily dysphoria and extremely eating-disordered habits (falling just short of actual anorexia) for a number of years*, I can attest that it’s not worth getting injured or dead just because this society has really fucked up narrow parameters of what “masculine” is or isn’t.

    * I’m better now, but still rarely see pictures of anyone who has my body type and looks natural/at ease as opposed to either A. miserable, dead-eyed, ashamed, and extremely uncomfortable, B. hyper-sexualized in classic female-as-object style, or C. both. Which is weird because I only measure like 37″-28″-39″. Society can really do a number on everyone’s brain and warp everyone’s expectations.

  37. Good point Ferrets… My friend has also mentioned that almost nobody who comes to zir for personal training eats too much, but a lot of people eat too little and are way too neurotic about food, and zie must attempt to undo that.

    I do think it’s good to teach people that you can change your body quite a lot with mere body-building, even if you don’t take hormones. Everyone doesn’t want to take hormones but may still have a bit of body dysphoria going on, and as zie put it, “we can’t just queer all that away”. Like, you may question society’s notions of masculinity/femininity all you like and still not feel at home in your body. And at least here in Sweden, even if you totally do want to take hormones, even if you want a full transition, there are all these psychiatric hopes you gotta jump through for YEARS before you’re allowed to. But there’s a lot you can do meanwhile. (Argenti wrote that getting testo is relatively easy where zie lives – well, that’s not the case here. My friend said that there’s quite a market now for steroids among trans men who are without excess to testo but who’re desperate for a different body.)

    BUUUUUUT obviously the attempt to change one’s body through exercise (and possibly also diet) can and often do lead people down some really fucked-up paths…

  38. And society is always creating new fucked-up paths to change one’s body. Like this, the world’s grossest new weight-loss technique.

  39. Katz, what the flying fuck??? Ew, and also terribly unhealthy. Seriously having a hole in your stomach and abdomen cannot be good.

  40. What??? The site’s down for maintenance so I can’t check it (or has it got a hole in it and all the stuff’s leaked out?)

    That sounds worse than the ol’ tapeworm method, even if that was an urban myth.

  41. And society is always creating new fucked-up paths to change one’s body. Like this, the world’s grossest new weight-loss technique.

    Science has made purging safe and convenient! Try it today!

  42. guffaw-ferrets

    Eugh.

    I lived as a man for several years when I was still underdeveloped enough to get away with that. The pressures from outside were almost as terrifying as the pressures from inside, so I do think doing away with social expectations will go a long way towards making *everyone’s* lives better. Presumably everyone would rather live in a world where it’s not okay to make a hole inside someone’s stomach just to starve them until they fit a certain physical ideal.

  43. I heard the magic word purging, and would recommend to all of you that, if you have trouble dropping some exces pounds, you purge your skeleton.

    http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/08/13

    Hollow bones! Light as a bird!

    (Note: Please. for the love of everything, don’t actually do this. Please. )

    It is pretty amazing what can be done with a bit of repetition and planning, though, in relation to body structure (And heavens, architecture and economics and knitting too, but, eh…).

    I still recommend the 4 hour body, Timothy Ferriss, for various neat short cuts.
    Just sort out the… everything else.

  44. Falconer —

    How is this different from bulimia?
    Aspiration Therapy does not cause bulimia. Bulimia is a psychological illness characterized by excessive and uncontrolled binging episodes followed by purging. Bulimia is medically unsupervised, while Aspiration Therapy is under the control of a physician and electrolytes and metabolites are carefully monitored. One of the primary dangers of bulimia is the damage to the teeth and esophagus due to stomach acid; Aspiration Therapy poses no such risk.

    Additionally, there is little overlap between people with bulimia and obesity. Patients who wish to undergo Aspiration Therapy will undergo screening for bulimia and other psychological illnesses to make sure they are eligible for therapy.

    http://www.aspirebariatrics.com/faqs.html

    I can’t even…*notopuses away*

  45. @Guffaw: I couldn’t check the link but hole-in-a-stomach sounds completely fucked up, and I’m sorry for all the shit you’ve been going through with eating disorders.

    For my own part though, I’m happier in my body when I have bigger arms, bigger shoulders, flatter chest, bigger side abs etc and overall looks a bit more masculine than the very Barbie-like shape I’m born with. And let me point out that building bigger muscles (especially as a cis woman, with little natural testosteron and therefore naturally handicapped in the muscle-building department) requires EATING and eating A LOT. Maybe one day, when I feel big enough, I’ll do a little bit of “deffing” (i e dieting), but getting BIGGER is the absolute number one priority for me.

    And MAYBE I’m just brainwashed by society to think male=better than female and male=big muscles. MAYBE in a feminist utopia I’d be perfectly happy with looking like Barbie, with having C cups and an hourglass figure and the teeniest tiniest little arms ever. I honestly don’t know. I’ve been trying for years to read body acceptance blogs and stuff and tell myself that looking like Barbie is perfectly fine etc. But at the end of the day, that doesn’t feel like me. So at the end of the day, no, I don’t think it works to just tell everyone that they ought to accept their bodies exactly like they are. Although I do recognize how much harm dieting does and how horrible eating disorders are.

    Hope this makes sense to anyone reading this post, because my own thoughts on this topic are messier than my thoughts on most topics.

  46. @Katz:
    Well that was a fresh and interesting batch of hell.

    Curse you for making me aware of this thing. Curse you with happiness and joy and generally good things, but curse you nonetheless.

    @Dvärghundspossen:

    I’m on a diet right now, which has so far helped me gain 1½ kilogram of weight.

    Hurrah for my massive body and all of its 137 pounds.
    ONE DAY I WILL BE BIG ENOUGH TO WEAR THE MEDIUM SIZED SHIRT. This I vow. Ahem.

    Sorry if that sounds snide, or glip, but if you eat a specific plan with a specific purpose in mind, you are on a diet. And it sounds like you have that? Lots of protein in various forms and some muscle tension excercises?
    I hope that gets you the results you want!

    I’m not a personal trainer, and so I’m not as awesome as your friend, who will know more than me, but if you want, I can upload a copy of the plan / diet I’m doing right now and you can try that for bit, see if it gets you anywhere. (Bike shed discussions, hm)

    But the reason I jump in is that… There’s an important difference between a desire for a of lessening societal and general pressure to be a way and accepting the way you are.

    If the body you have don’t feel like you, then… yeah, do your best to change it (which will generally work out fairly well)
    If the body you have is one you’re told you’re not supposed to have, then…

    People ought to accept that others bodies aren’t their business to shape, unless it is, literally, their business to shape. But what you want to look like is, at the end of the day, what you’d like to look like.
    (Is and ought. Hm)

    So no, you’re probably not brainwashed. And no, in a feminist utopia, you probably wouldn’t be happy with your body. You have an idea and a desire.

    And, uh, that’s okay. You’re allowed to. Good luck with it!.

    But I think (AND I’M A MIND READER NOW) Guffaw-Ferrets major point was merely and simply that, if someone gets so set on a certain path to bodily reconstruction that they follow it despite their own actual desire or interest or inclinations, because someone else from the glossy cover of a magazine leers: “This is the way thou shalt look!” or someone snipes you from a side street with some witticisism… that’s not positive. And is, in fact, dangerous.

    So body acceptance blogs and ideas and stuff isn’t, at the end of the day, irrelevant or useless or “wishy washy stuff that doesn’t really apply”.

  47. Thanks Fibinachi. :-)

    I think that in praxis, the line is very hard to draw between changing your body for your own sake and for society’s sake… Like, everyone who diets in order to lose weight, even if they do it after reading dieting tips in Cosmo or whatever, say (and probably also think) that they do it for their own sake. Maybe the only line one can draw is between self-destructive and non-destructive changes…? Although that’s also a really difficult line to draw in praxis.

  48. @Fibinachi again: I didn’t respond to everything in your post first, but yeah, I messed up on the English word “diet”, I thought of it as a translation of the Swedish “banta”, which only means trying to lose weight by eating in a certain manner and not the opposite. :-) Thanks for correcting me.
    And thanks for the offer. Right now though I’m mostly eating what I want to (I had fairly sensible eating habits already and was used to eating quite a lot), the only thing I consciously think about is eating a big meal which contains both lots of protein and some sugar (my PT said it’s received body builder wisdom that you build muscles better by combining protein with sugar, like fruits or fruit juice, rather than mere protein or protein+slower carbs right after exercise). I do find it a bit exhausting to think about what I eat all the time, so the plan is to see how things are going for a while and then maybe compiling a more careful diet later on if we don’t see as much progress as we’d like.

    Also related to this… The reason I identify as a cis woman is really just that I’m okay with being called “she” and referred to as a woman. It bugged me when I was a child, but I’ve gotten used to it over the years, and it doesn’t exactly bother me any longer. But that’s it. (Just in case anyone thought it weird that I, as a cis woman, feel more at home in a more masculine-looking body.)

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