Long Weekend Open Thread
Like a lot of people in the US of A, I am taking a long weekend. Posting may be a little light for a bit. So here’s an open thread for everyone else taking a long weekend. Or not. Use this thread for anything that’s not personal. Like misogyny, politics, kitties, you know the drill. (Though kitties are welcome in all threads, of course.)
I am hoping my long weekend turns out a bit better than that of the people in the Australian movie of that name from 1978, which I keep meaning to see. Apparently their little beach vacation doesn’t go so well, and they are attacked by … nature? At one point, I believe, they face off against an enraged dugong. (No, really.) The movie was recently remade, but apparently the remake wasn’t as good.
Stay tuned for more reviews of movies I haven’t seen and that I’m just giving vague impressions of based on things I’ve heard somewhere.
Posted on July 5, 2013, in off topic, open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 1,365 Comments.
RE: Argenti
My water bottle is a Sigg, which is apparently the world’s toughest water bottle, and it has the caribiner top.
Although I plan to have most of what you describe, I probably won’t have all of it. I don’t plan to be in the backwoods all or even most of the time. My Inspiron also has NO battery whatsoever; it died a few years back and hasn’t been replaced.
As for battery-free light, I got that covered. Hand-crank flashlight, guys! Most awesome thing on earth.
Works at doing what exactly? If you want something that works at getting two people who want to have sex together to have sex, that’s what online dating is for.
If you’re looking for something to get a person who doesn’t want to have sex to have sex with you, then you’re a manipulative rapey asshole, and the goal of feminism is to make sure you DON’T rape or manipulate women.
LBT — you said you where planning to head down the east coast first right? Looks like your dell keyboard will make replacing the one on my mac look like a dream, and the replacement keyboard is $17~ on amazon and there’s one on eBay for $14~
We’ll have to figure out when to do this, but yeah, I can handle it. And my mother did want to go back to Boston when the weather was nicer…I doubt she’ll have the time off to do it, but I’ll ask when she gets home. Barring that, I’m on a bus line that runs to the Amtrak station (with a transfer, but they’re free here), or, with pecunium’s permission, we might be able to meet up there (he’s just outside NYC, and you should ask him about couch space)
Yeah…need to iron out the details, but I can do this.
ONLY HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ATTRACTED TO YOU. That’s the solution. Just because you don’t want to accept that women can and will have sexual preferences you can’t control, doesn’t mean that the solution isn’t out there.
In a word, YES.
I’m surprised you call yourself an MRA. They have very little use for you–even less than than the novelty treatment FeMRAs get. That has to chap your ass, no wonder you’re so verbose.
I don’t care if you grew up in a USMC household, so did I. Married one, too. Like I said you have thrown out many words, but you’ve offered nothing compelling as to why feminists should care about dudes who can’t laid. “Feminism didn’t think about them” is not enough.
Cold and lifeless? Sounds about right.
Re: diet and exercise, etc. For a long time I tried to torture my body into looking the way that I wanted it to (the way society told me it *should* look) via diet, exercise, “performance” undergarments and the like. Then I got sick. Now I am much more focused on how my body feels. I’d like to lose the rest of the weight I picked up while on the steroids, and I bet I’ll look good when I do, but I want to lose it because it keeps me from being as active as I would like to be. Sure I care about how I look, but I’m less obsessed with it than I used to be. I don’t diet anymore, though I am careful about what I eat because of how it affects how I feel now and how I would like to feel. It’s a struggle, but I’m happy with it most days.
Ugh: I know, right? If we’d all just spread for the menz on demand, everything would be kittens, rainbows, and unicorn glitter farts.
RE: Argenti
Yup, you remembered right. I actually planned to hit NYC first, because I got a buddy on Long Island (who I can probably crash with) and also, buses at NYC go EVERYWHERE.
Sweet! It’d be awesome to see you again. And anything that gives more life to my beloved BSOD has my everlasting thanks; luggging an external keyboard is ASS. The battery, I know, I just need to get off my ass and replace.
RE: Obsidian Files
Feminists have never really considered how all of the many changes they’ve worked so hard to bring about, would impact Men.
I can’t say I blame them, seeing how they were focusing on things like gaining the vote, the right to own property and get equal pay, things like that. Feminists had to figure it out for women, men have to do their own homework.
Sure, take potshots at the PUAs if you want, but so long as there’s no viable alternative THAT WORKS, the PUAs can and will continue to reign supreme.
I think “reign supreme” is a bit of an overstatement.
Awesome water bottle!
“As for battery-free light, I got that covered. Hand-crank flashlight, guys! Most awesome thing on earth.”
And it works? Mine always suck (but are the cheap kind, so wtf do I know?)
In any case, take a compass, pocket knife and first aid kit, they’re light, and are the things you do not want to have a don’t have it when you need it moment with.
And seriously, that dell looks much MUCH easier to work on that my mac, and the replacement keyboard is so much cheaper (that was my real concern, that the keyboard would be the $80+ mine was)
@hellkell
It’s straight up bizarre how MRAs think that women choosing who to have sex with is some kind of bug in feminism. Even denserock here thinks that it’s some kind of unforeseen consequence that noone considered would affect men.
Dudes, women’s sexual agency is a feature, not a bug.
I wouldn’t suggest it should be the only thing, but it’s like having a pantry full of rice and canned beans. In a pinch, you know that you can eat decently and healthfully even if you can’t make it to the store (or can’t afford to buy much there).
Either way, the more options you have, the better you will be able to pick and choose what works best for you! I’ll still offer suggestions if you still want them to consider!
We’ll have to ask pecunium when he gets here then! He and I keep failing to manage to meet up so I don’t think he’d much mind hosting a repair party. Idk about letting you crash there, but no harm in asking right? (And seriously, I think you’d be safer with him than here, my father is a world apart from my mother)
@Gillyrosebee: Yeah, at some point you have to way the pro:s and the con:s and ask yourself whether it’s worth it.
I managed to put on seven kilos (about fifteen pounds) a couple of years ago through working out really hard and eating like crazy. The eating part was the hardest. I’d eat three BIG cooked meals a day, plus sandwiches and fruit. I’d wake up already full since last nights evening meal and still begin the day by stuffing myself with sandwiches, and I just kept getting fuller and fuller from there. Eventually I fell ill, couldn’t eat like that anymore and lost most of the gained weight again during the course of a month. When I was well again, I thought fuck this shit, it’s better to be thin than to constantly think about food and constantly feel completely full.
WEEEELL now I’m giving “bigger and stronger” another go, as I said, but I’m never gonna eat like that again – it’s just not worth it. And I reckon constantly thinking about what you eat in the other direction so to speak must be even worse.
Sorry, you have to WEIGH the pro:s and con:s, obviously, not “way”.
@Obsidian
See, the thing is, you’re not good, you’re evil. You see things only in terms of getting your dick wet, which is why you say thinks like “I don’t support harassment because it doesn’t work”. You can’t be trusted to not do something awful because at any moment you might think doing that thing will get you laid and that’s all that matters to you.
Argenti: what kind of fallacious appeal is this?
The fallacy of taking credit for shit you didn’t do?
Ok, I’m awake enough from my Obsidian induced nap to get back to the data. LBT email me if you need anything, have questions, whatever. The iPad and Mac both have email alerts set up (dual alerts is pretty funny btw, iPad goes bing, and about 30 seconds later the mac alert pops up)
RE: Argenti
I got the flashlight from a garage sale. It’s a bit beat-up and faded, but I’ve used it in power-outages and such with great success! It’s always given me light when I need it.
And my water bottle is GREAT. It could probably hold a liter too, it’s giant. Only problem is that it can leak a little out the top.
Got a Swiss Army Knife and some first aid gear, will have to look around for a compass.
Appeal to authority? Definately a red herring. Unfortunately he’s maxed out his red herring category on Spot! That! Fallacy!
@Dvärghundspossen
It sucks deeply.
(Warning: sloppy and gross generalization about complex neurobiological processes ahead!!)
When you are trying to eat less than you are used to the body tends to freak out and become convinced you are starving, and it kicks out cues to prime the mind to look for food. So not only is your body itself sending signals that it wants more food (growling tummy and the like) but your brain is flooding you with OMG GO EAT SOMETHING NOW!! chemical cues and you end up thinking about food all the time. It is not a very conducive state of being.
LBT — Walmart and target and the like have compasses cheap, hell, I might have a spare even (I wouldn’t count on it, but I’ll ask around)
And awesome on the flashlight, I never have that kind of luck with them!
@Ugh:
“Shocker. Douchey pretentious drivel leads to douchey pretentious nicknames,”
O: I wa only responding to a question…
“Also, lol at “student””
O: Whatever float your boat, chief…
“WAH women like having sex with people they find attractive, party twenty billion.”
O: Not at all; I’m in full agreement with the idea that a Woman can and should be with whomever she pleases, for whatever reason she pleases. Try hard much?
“You have yet to explain how somehow there are more vastly more single men than women in the world, or how women as a group have heterosexual sex more often than men.
FYI, it’s about 50/50″
o: Actually, those sex ratios change over time. For example, in the Black community, at the younge ages, and by that I mean in the teens, there are actually slightly more males than females; however, this situation reverses itself by the time Black Men and Women hit their upper 30s and beyond.
Then, you have the fact that history has always recorded more married Women than Men, or to put it another way, there have always been more bachelors to spinsters. That remains true today in our time and clime.
As it relates to the online dating piece: for one thing, one has to assume that all the Women there are indeed looking for a relationship, and that’s not true; as I said, there are some Women who post profiles merely to get a boost in their self esteem. Other Women are looking for a short term arrangement. And so on.
Then, add in the fact that it is very possible for one guy to be having sexual relationships with a number of Women, which comes at the expense of the other guys in the pool.
Finally, factor in the fact that, as to the two studies I’ve mentioned points out, most guys don’t get messaged by Women, and most of the time their messages they send to Women go unanswered, and it’s easy to see why it simply doesn’t work out for most Men.
Which brings us back to Square One…doesn’t it?
;)
O.
I actually got a halfway decent crank flashlight with my emergency radio. You crank to charge the battery and you can get a pretty bright light out of the little five led lamp. It’s not as dependable as my Surefire, but I was pleasantly surprised at how much light the thing actually does put out.
RE: Argenti
Yeah, I’m positive I can find a compass around here SOMEWHERE. I might as well just ask around my friends first.
As for the flashlight, yup, only one of its three bulbs work, but it’s pretty great! I have a list of “underrated objects I own” and it’s on there. (That and the Mooncup. God DAMN I am glad I bought that thing.)
Speaking of buying things, I just ordered a used GBA SP from Amazon. I lost my old one when I was 11, and now I miss the old GBA games I have lying around.
Yo, Obsidian Files, what’s your opinion on camping? Any places you like to camp, or would like to?
Completely off topic non sequitur alert!
When y’all buy soap, do you prefer scented or unscented? Does it matter to you whether it has added colors or is made with animal products (lard and tallow)?
Practical and functional compass obtained!
@Myoo:
“See, the thing is, you’re not good, you’re evil.”
O: LOL. Not quite; I’m a pragmatist…
“You see things only in terms of getting your dick wet, which is why you say thinks like “I don’t support harassment because it doesn’t work”.”
O: No; say that because, one, it’s true, for the most part, and two, it’s not worth the hassle.
“You can’t be trusted to not do something awful because at any moment you might think doing that thing will get you laid and that’s all that matters to you.”
O: As I’ve said before, Obsidian is the least of your worries if you’re concerned about rape and street harassment. The guys you need to be concerned about are on the streets right now.
Go get em, tiger…
Rawr
O.
@Gillyrosebee: Yeah it makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint (evopsych FTW!) that it would be more difficult to abstain from food than to stuff yourself. Like, people stuffing themselves haven’t really been a threat to our survival historically, while on the other hand it’s been super important that people who’s had to do with only little food for a while are on the look-out for food and eat as much as they can whenever they get the chance.
GRB: depends on the scent. I’ll take unscented over anything too flowery, but if it’s a woodsy fragrance, I’m all over it. I prefer things without dyes and whatnot, because I can be super allergic to soaps.
@LBT:
“Yo, Obsidian Files, what’s your opinion on camping? Any places you like to camp, or would like to?”
O: There’s alot of really great camping grounds in my home state of PA; I’ve done the Poconos, which is what I would recommend for beginners just starting out.
As for where I would like to hit up? Big Sur, Yellowstone national park, that sort of thing. The Pacific Northwest. Alaska.
And I’ve always liked the idea of driving an RV coast to coast…
O.
@Hellkell:
“Argenti: what kind of fallacious appeal is this?
I was born and raised in a military household, USMC to be exact, three generations of Marines.
The fallacy of taking credit for shit you didn’t do?”
O: Hardly, LOL. Just giving you a heads up on where I come from in terms of answering your question. The military, and the Marines in particular, have a certain way of approaching problem solving. That was my point, and was something I learned growing up.
O.
RE: gillyrosebee
Generally, I prefer unscented. The one exception is peppermint. I ADORE THE SMELL OF PEPPERMINT. As for added colors and animal products, I don’t really care, but I am a bit picky just because my skin hates everything. I tend to stick to stuff that’s hypoallergenic and good for sensitive skin–last thing I want is to ENCOURAGE my skin to blister and ooze even more.
@Ugh:
“It’s straight up bizarre how MRAs think that women choosing who to have sex with is some kind of bug in feminism. Even denserock here thinks that it’s some kind of unforeseen consequence that noone considered would affect men.”
O: Are you referring to me? Because if you are, I can assure that is not my position, and never has been.
“Dudes, women’s sexual agency is a feature, not a bug.”
O: Nor was this ever in dispute; strawman much?
O.
Funny, because I’m pretty sure trying to trick a woman into sex through game would be classified as An Embarrassment to The Corps. Guess you were absent that day.
RE: OF
I hope to be in Yellowstone! I look forward to it immensely. As for Alaska… *wistful sigh* maybe someday, one day.
One of my aunts has an RV, and as a wee thing we went on many trips with her. It is indeed fun, if you can stand the cost!
Peppermint-scented stuff is amazing. I especially love peppermint soap that isn’t too harsh – I just love that tingly* feeling. ^_^
*Not in the MRA/PUA/MGTOW way. >_>
OK, you guys–I just tried to explain OF to Mr. HK, and got an incredulous “Men’s Right’s… WHAT?”
It was hilarious. Also, OF is an embarrassment to at least one Marine.
Ally: I once encountered a peppermint body wash that gave tingles of the no fun at all variety. You gotta watch that stuff.
I love giving make overs. I thought I’d just say that.
Also on bras: I’m a D 34, and if I don’t wear a bra I will die. Not really, it just hurts like hell after a while, and that’s just sitting still and laying down. I am super jealous of women who can wear no bras or strapless ones for longer than a few hours.
Yeah, that’s why I’m only talking about peppermint soap that isn’t harsh in that “holy fuck that feels like fucking acid and my eyes are dissolving” way. In general, even with the less harsh stuff, one really needs to use it sparingly.
@ Ugh
Did you just suggest that society should care how women feel about the sex they’re having, even if that means that sometimes some men will go unfucked? That’s misandry, that is.
RE: Ally S
Dr. Bronner’s forever!
RE:auggziliary
Back before I hacked them off, I think I was a 30D. In my case, though, bras actually CAUSED me pain. Going braless helped. Too bad by that point I got dysphoria from all the bouncing and movement…
I like to do things along cost/benefit lines. Because, human beings are for the most part, cost/benefit calculators.
This is some primo-grade ignorance. If ignorance weren’t so easy to come by, you could bottle it and make a decent living from the sales.
Falconer: Don’t forget that everything about men and women will be used to prove the Theory of Game. It doesn’t matter why people get together, it’s gonna be because of some aspect that Game will solve for the dude who ain’t getting any.
Game cannot fail, it can only be failed. If you think it’s not about the Principles of Game, then you just betray your lack of understanding.
Dr. Bronner’s rocks! And I sold my mother on the stuff after a case of “I have no idea what your father got on his pants, but I can’t get it out”…the propaganda laden soap did the trick of course!
Pecunium! Can LBT and I borrow some floor space for me to replace his laptop keyboard? Fall sometime, have to ask him for more detail than that. (I’m sure I can handle the repair job, but I don’t want to subject him to my father, and hey, we’ll finally actually meet!)
@LBT:
“RE: Obsidian Files
I can’t say I blame them, seeing how they were focusing on things like gaining the vote, the right to own property and get equal pay, things like that. Feminists had to figure it out for women, men have to do their own homework.”
O: They have – and then Feminists say “we don’t like it!”, and the guys ask what they should do, the Feminists say, “figure it out, not my problem!”. Very mature…
“I think “reign supreme” is a bit of an overstatement.”
O: I don’t; quick, name me another movement as large that is devoted to Men?
I’ll wait…
@Myoo:
“Cold and lifeless? Sounds about right.”
O: LOL. Perhaps you missed the part where I said that Obsidian is *volcanic glass*? Yea, that…
@Hellkell:
“In a word, YES.”
O: That smacks of Malcolm X type talk, not something MLK would say…
“I’m surprised you call yourself an MRA. They have very little use for you–even less than than the novelty treatment FeMRAs get. That has to chap your ass, no wonder you’re so verbose.”
O: Actually, it doesn’t one bit. I talk a lot because I can. No other reason.
“I don’t care if you grew up in a USMC household, so did I.”
O: I don’t care if you did, either; I didn’t mention it for your care or not. I mentioned it to answer your question, which I did.
“Married one, too.”
O: Good for you; so did my mom and grand mom.
“Like I said you have thrown out many words, but you’ve offered nothing compelling as to why feminists should care about dudes who can’t laid. “Feminism didn’t think about them” is not enough.”
O: Yes, it is. That my answer is unsatisfactory for you, is not a problem I can nor should solve…
@Ugh:
“ONLY HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE ATTRACTED TO YOU. That’s the solution. Just because you don’t want to accept that women can and will have sexual preferences you can’t control, doesn’t mean that the solution isn’t out there.”
O: I fully accept whatever mating decisions any Woman may make, for whatever reasons she may make. Moreover, clearly you’ve missed my earlier commentary, where I addressed the notion of “people who are attracted to you”; what if those people are unattractive to you? That happens to guys quite a bit, hence the Mystery Method: How to Get BEAUTIFUL (correct spelling that time!) Women into Bed…
“Works at doing what exactly?”
O: Devoloping confidence, learning how to talk to Women, listen to Women (yes, its true, it does), how to dress, lose weight/bulk up, make oneself over, become popular, etc, et al.
“If you want something that works at getting two people who want to have sex together to have sex, that’s what online dating is for.”
O: That’s what online dating *can* be for…not necessarily, since I’ve shown that it doesn’t work for most Men.
“If you’re looking for something to get a person who doesn’t want to have sex to have sex with you, then you’re a manipulative rapey asshole, and the goal of feminism is to make sure you DON’T rape or manipulate women.”
O: And by all accounts it seems that Feminism is achieving its goal.
Now what? What do the guys who want to be with beautiful Women, do to make that happen. since you and others are so dead set against Pickup?
Hmm?
@Hellkell:
“Ugh: I know, right? If we’d all just spread for the menz on demand, everything would be kittens, rainbows, and unicorn glitter farts.”
O: Not quite…
O.
RE: Argenti/pecunium
I was always skeptical of Dr. Bronner’s, but then I actually tried it. OMG PEPPERMINT.
Regarding timing, I plan to set out on October 1st, but if that’s not doable, I can jaunt down in September. Also, I got crash space on Long Island, and I can get into NYC proper with the LIRR.
Shit, you actually know what that is? I’m literally shocked. =O In a good way, of course.
I love that stuff, but only in moderation. Using too much can really hurt sometimes. X_X
O, I’m not going to give you any answers to your questions, because they would be similar to the answers other people have given you and you would reject them. Dating sites are misandry! Expectin gmen to go to meetups is misandry! Meeting women through friends is misandy! Or whatever.
The idea that “THIS DOESN’T WORK” for men makes no sense given that, you know, most men do end up dating, getting married, etc.
Also, how hard is it to say to a woman you’re on a date with “hey, want to make out?” If she’s into you, she’s going to say yes.
Other than the entertaining commentary on the bottle (pure gold, that is!) what do folks like most about Dr. Bronners? Liquid or bar?
Present for those who like mint soap. This stuff is awesome, and all Pre de Provence soaps are super moisturizing. My skin tends to be dry and glycerine soaps make it unhappy, but this stuff is great.
http://www.pharmaca.com/Soaps/Pre-de-Provence-Soap-Mint-Leaf-150g/522794/5010-5633-5635/Product
Well, then. Women’s agency by any means necessary, and if you and your PUA crew of slimeballs don’t like it, lump it.
Cassandra: Pre de Provence soaps are the shit.
RE: ObsidianFiles
O: They have – and then Feminists say “we don’t like it!”, and the guys ask what they should do, the Feminists say, “figure it out, not my problem!”. Very mature…
If assholes choose to use an asshole way to deal with something, that’s still not the problem of feminists. Equating PUA with all men doing their homework is a false equivalence. I mean, I’m trans, so am coming from a different place, but I had to figure out my gender and my feelings about it on my own. I didn’t need Game to do it.
O: I don’t; quick, name me another movement as large that is devoted to Men?
Gay rights movement. The Robert Bly circles. And that’s just sticking with the past fifty years or so.
That Pre de Provence stuff looks great. I really want mint soap that is actually moisturizing because the mint soap I have tried (even that lovely Dr. Bonner’s) does very little in terms of moisturizing my skin.
Does anyone else find it really creepy when trolls make smiley faces at us? I think it’s the combination of the attempts to justify rapey behavior and the pretend friendliness. It’s like being smiled at by a shark.
Ally, If you want an hour glass shape, you could bulk up your butt and thighs, and do yoga that focuses on arms and abs. Usually when women want an hourglass or pear figure they are advised to do that. Bulking is basically high weight with low rep. Yoga makes muscles tight and small, so it would slim your waist and shoulders. Even if you have fat on your belly it still slims it a lot.
(I don’t mean that you’ll look like a man if you don’t do this or whatever, it’s just that it is one way to change your body shape if you’re not happy with your current one).
I do this and it makes my waist and butt look awesome. I’m afraid of getting too skinny(I do a lot of cardio) so it really helps me keep looking curvy.
RE: Ally S
See, I feel the tingly cold and am just like, “interesting.” Also it means I smell like candy to my husband, which I deeply approve of. I’ve never used the bar, just a little jar of the liquid a visitor left at the house.
Cassandra: it creeps me out too, and makes me wish there was a way to disable emoticons for trolls.
@ Ally
Pre de Provence is the most moisturizing soap I’ve tried. If you want moisturizing but still want to exfoliate the honey almond is perfect, and they all smell really good.
I like the Milk and the Linden PdP soaps. Sandalwood’s another fave.
There is another way to cut OF off–David, could you please put his ass back on mod? It’s not that I can’t handle his… uh, “truth,” I’m just sick of him.
@Hellkell:
“Funny, because I’m pretty sure trying to trick a woman into sex through game would be classified as An Embarrassment to The Corps. Guess you were absent that day.”
O: Wait, I thought we wasn’t making any appeal to authority? ;)
Anyway…please define “trick”?
“OK, you guys–I just tried to explain OF to Mr. HK, and got an incredulous “Men’s Right’s… WHAT?”
It was hilarious. Also, OF is an embarrassment to at least one Marine.”
O: *shrugss* And I’m the pride of at least three times as many, whom I actually know.
Are we done with the (utterly useless) shaming tactics?
@Pecunium:
“This is some primo-grade ignorance.”
O: How so? Please explain?
“If ignorance weren’t so easy to come by, you could bottle it and make a decent living from the sales.”
O: Who says I haven’t?
“Falconer: Don’t forget that everything about men and women will be used to prove the Theory of Game. It doesn’t matter why people get together, it’s gonna be because of some aspect that Game will solve for the dude who ain’t getting any.”
O: When have I ever asserted this?
“Game cannot fail, it can only be failed. If you think it’s not about the Principles of Game, then you just betray your lack of understanding.”
O: This is ridiculous. I’ve never made any such assertion.
@Cassandra:
“Did you just suggest that society should care how women feel about the sex they’re having, even if that means that sometimes some men will go unfucked? That’s misandry, that is.”
O: I think it’s an issue to think about. Consider what’s currently happening in both China and India…
O.
LBT and Obsidian, wasn’t there a men’s movement that was basically feminism for dudes? it’s not the MRM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_movement
This article talks about men’s movements, and only a sentence mentions the antifeminist Men’s movement, the men’s rights movement.
Yeah, he’s really boring when he’s not being creepy.
I like rose petal, honey almond, mint leaf, and neroli. Mr C loves verbena and lemongrass.
OF: I’m not trying appeal to anything I’m not. And it seems that every time I hit close to home, you bring up shaming as a deflection. It’s OK if you don’t wanna own your shit, just fuck off.
I got your number. It’s 800-CRY-BABY.
@LBT, you do not have to repay me in any art, housework, help with kids, or anything. When you’re here in Joplin, you are our guest and I don’t want anything in return except your company. I’m really excited about having you here, too. I think it will be fun to meet another manboobzer in real life.
You’ll even get to sleep in a bed instead of a couch here. My kids like sleeping in the same room because they get scared at night, so one of the twin sized Spiderman beds is always empty. My dad built it from scratch, too, so it’s made well.
re: bras
I think the ones with underwire are less comfortable, but they do lift things up better. I like the way the boxed Cross your Heart ones feel, but they make the Madonna cone effect. Now the Ahhh bras as seen on TV? Those are great. They are just like they describe on the infomercials.
@Obisidion
I doubt that. Besides, someone doesn’t have to ask in the exact words “May I insert my penis into your vagina?” They could instead say “You like that? Want me to keep going? Wanna get in the backseat/go back to my apartment?” Surely those incel guys can come up with different ways to ask that can keep the mood going.
That’s just a gendered stereotype. Yes some women are more nurturing and empathetic, like Counselor Troi from Star Trek. But others are more blunt and insensitive. Women are just as varied as men and non binaries.
That’s because people assume women are weak and non threatening. So a lecherous women is laughed at in the media and in real life. That’s really bad, because victims of women aren’t always taken seriously.
CassandraSays
I’ve seen that all too often. X_X
@auggziliary
Thanks for the suggestions, but regarding the hour glass shape, I’ll probably be satisfied with the bodily changes due to HRT, which also affects fat distribution. It should definitely have an effect because my torso already looks a bit curvy on the sides.