Mark Minter takes on Marriage, Mangina Manservants and America’s Matriarchal Infrastructure
Mark Minter’s worst nightmare
Today I’m feeling lazy, so I’m just going to pass along some thoughts from Mark Minter, a fellow best known, insofar as he is known, for leaving melodramatic manospherian manifestos – look, three “m’s” in a row! — in other people’s comments sections. I’ve written about him before – twice! — and he’s recently returned to his old habit of leaving his droppings in the comments here.
This little masterpiece of purplish prose, however, was left in the comments section of Roosh V’s Return of Kings blog (and brought to my attention by a commenter here), where he gets a much friendlier reception than he gets in these parts. His topic: Returning to the United States after spending time abroad. (I’ve cut out big chunks of his comments, as Minty is a tad long-winded.)
I have been back 3 years and I do not seek to engage America in any way. I stay home, on the internet. I shop in the middle of the night for food. When I must be out in the day, I move quickly, efficiently. I interact little with this society that I am no longer a part of. Some of that is age but a lot of is that I have killed my American self and I feel no affection for it, no loyalty to it, and I shall discard it forever, soon. The only connection is feel to it is you, you band of renegade rebels to whom I feel a kindred spirit.
We few, we happy few, we band of douchebags!
Despite the claims of feminists, America is the Matriarchy, the land owned and dominated by women and their mangina menservants, their guards, their infrastructure that so caters to them, their laws.
Yes, it’s true. Along with its mangina manservants — hi, everybody! — America has a Matriarchal Infrastructure. For example, this power plant, located just outside Dacron, Ohio, is devoted entirely to providing electricity for women’s Hitachi Magic Wands.
Anyway, back to Mark’s riveting ruminations:
You see it when upon landing in America. In other places, immigration is almost a “lip service”, a gang of sorts to get money from you when you arrive and when you leave. The security you must pass, when entering. is almost a joke compared to what you encounter when you arrive in America. And it is far greater when you leave, those airlines and airport security forces have a procedure that is not so much that the idea of the country you are leaving, but rather the dictates of America, and its women.
Clearly, only women want border security. If it were up to men, anyone could just waltz in no questions asked, carrying bombs, heroin, large snakes, strange insects, bootleg t.A.T.u. CDs, what have you.
And here you are not a man, but a functionary, a manservant, a slave to women. You see it when you arrive, you feel it, you know it, that stripping of your masculine dignity that begins the moment you leave the plane and enter an American terminal, that herding, that loss of the you that is you. And you see it as you come out on these clean, lit streets, this great giant boring shopping mall, all designed for women, all policed for women, all at the behest of women and those manginas that have bought in … .
Damn you, America and your good lighting! Fuck you and your infernal lack of litter!
It is more than merely cultural, more than social, it is even biological. This matriarchy has dominated even nature here, controlled every last aspect, even the dirt, even the germs, all of the animals, and certainly, all of the men.
It’s true. ALL OF THE ANIMALS. Even my cats are women. Spoiled, pampered women who expect everything handed to them on a silver platter!
Well, not so much a silver platter as little paper plates. Also, I make them poop in a box. But you get the idea.
If you stay, you will remain in angst, a slave to women.
When I close my eyes the image I see is elsewhere.
Weird. I see the completely unilluminated inside of my eyelids, which is not a terribly interesting view.
And when I die, the fact I got to live elsewhere for a time, will dwarf what I feel about here. It is the basis of my rants about marriage and this American life as a married man being insipid, stupid, and a waste of the life of man. Because it ties you to here, it chains you, it removes your option, your hope, that you might leave, and seals your fate as a slave.
So, I guess … don’t get married then? Problem solved!
I don’t think the women of Matriarchal America are going to miss out greatly from you removing yourself from the marriage market. So, seriously, go right ahead.
NOTE: There is no Dacron, Ohio.
Posted on April 23, 2013, in antifeminism, crackpottery, drama kings, imaginary backwards land, imaginary oppression, kitties, manginas, marriage strike, matriarchy, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, PUA, rhymes with roosh, western women suck and tagged antifeminism, cats, misogyny, pick-up artists, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,037 Comments.
@Viscaria
Cheers!! I am also mildly tipsy so my first thought was “Butterfingers are disgusting!! Why you post them once, let alone twice?!” :P
@Kittehserf, that bra is FANTASTIC!
No one likes you because you’re acting like a douche. We can’t even tell whether you’re white or a man.
Guess who else is a white man.
Mr. Futrelle. He is loved.
PEMRA’s spheal about how much society hates white men made me think of this song.
Ooops, did not know this *drunkenly flaggelates himself*
The Kitten-Man! He is Loooooveeeed.
[Creepy cultist chant]
Pro-Equality MRA I’m going to do you a favour. Read what you wrote. Really read it. Read the responses. You are not a martyr. This is not a grand cause. Not the way you all are playing it.
Clink, Shadow!
I was hoping for Bitches Ain’t Shit.
@kittehserf Precisely! Although I didn’t want to mention the *cough* hair issue. It’s obviously a sore point.
PEMRA, you need to get a sense of empathy. You are calling out everyone here for picking on the white man, but you seem oblivious to the fact other groups generally have it worse than that particular demographic. You’re too wrapped up in yourself.
I’m not saying individual white men are hated by everyone. In fact that’s what keeps me participating in society, the fact that I have friends and family who don’t judge me based on sex and race, and don’t consider me a horrible oppressor. But society, by and large, thinks those things.
Everything you’ve ever written here has formed my opinion of you. Everything you’re writing now confirms it.
As I said before: my husband’s a white man. He’s not a monster, never was, and he had way more privilege for you and was responsible for some huge and dreadful decisions in his earthly time, things you couldn’t even begin to imagine. There are plenty of commenters here whose husbands are white men. They aren’t demonised. There are (gasp) regulars who are white men. They aren’t demonised either.
You conflate yourself, a dipshit who identifies with a rabidly misogynistic and racist group, with “all white men”. You conflate criticism of male privilege with “society” (which somehow magically excludes white men) demonising white men … while at the same time, said society is ruled in almost every aspect largely BY white men.
You’re a self-pitying, clueless idiot. You don’t get sympathy for that. You also came in here and fucked around in one of the funniest and most enjoyable threads I’ve read in a while, so I’ve even less time for you than usual.
Fuck off, loser.
For Pro Equality MRA
The only difference is no one even told him to check his privilege. He just instantly started whining about it without any prompting.
Now I just have to find a link about not whining about being a guy…
but you seem oblivious to the fact other groups generally have it worse than that particular demographic.
Other demographics aren’t considered the horrible monster of society. It’s not considered ok to despise other groups, execpt my group. So I disagree with the assumptions being made here.
This is also true. That’s why we as a society rarely elect white men to any position of power. Why would we trust horrible oppressors to rule us?
“I have met people who love me for who I am,
friends and lovers and family
Who judge me for what’s in my head and not
what’s covering my bones
those same bones that get worn down by working
because life is oh so hard
and soon I will be oh so bald
bit by bit by bit
dragging around this burden
drags down my life”
…
… So you met and know people who love you for who you are, yet you insist that society – that same society, I remind you, which is made up of people – hates white men? But other white men that you must also have people who know and love them, family, friends and lovers…
So if that’s the case… white men are really the reason white men hate white men, because white men hate each other.
@Pro-Equipment MRA! You need to stop hating yourself so you can love yourself so you can love other white men who can love white men so society can prosper!
Whitemenwhitemenwhitemenwhahwashingmashine.
@Kittehsef, again, your aggressively presumptuous post is not worth responding to, because you’ve made so many assumptions it’s almost funny. I don’t even feel that’s addressed to me, it’s addressed to some bizarro version of me. So I won’t be answering it.
And why would they possess the vast majority of the world’s wealth, being monsters and all?
“he had way more privilege for you”
way more privilege THAN you. I can’t even figure how I typed “for” instead! :P
@Fibinachi, you’ve committed a logical fallacy. Friends and family of individual white men can still hate white men as a group, and they do, and that forms the basis for society’s contempt.
@Kittehs’ just want to let you know I left a little message on your blog. Easier then here!
I don’t care if you answer my post or not, dolt.
Tell you what, why don’t you go take a dump? My cat just did that and now she’s in a much better mood. You’re so full of shit that literally getting rid of some might be just what you need.
A good poop can be revelatory.
Yonkers, he’s still going? Makeup, hellkell, STAT!
Here is a little explanation for you pro-“equality” mra
POC: descriminated against based on skin color, denied opportunities, given longer sentences than white people for many crimes, have to deal with shitty racism everywhere and much more stuff I can’t even begin to comprehend because I’m white.
White people: Sometimes called oppressors.
Women: Denied opportunities, perceived as less competent, paid less, sexually assaulted at a higher rank, expected to do more house work and child care than is proportional, expected to move around when their husbands change jobs…
Men: sometimes called oppressors.
Your entire shtick is “waaaaahhh. Even if I don’t want to, I benefit from this system of privilege, and people have the audicy to POINT THAT OUT!””
PEMRA, please please please tell me the ways society showers white men with its contempt. Finals have got me stressed out and I could use the laugh.
By giving them power and wealth!
Theda, just got it and answered! :)
Hey, why shouldn’t we take over a thread? It’s got to be less boring than WhinyTroll(TM). ;)
PEMRA, I was wondering, why do you come here?
I mean, you know the reaction you’ll get, so why?
Or perhaps the question should be, why do you hate yourself? I mean I understand, really I do, but I think you need to ask yourself that question.
You come into our space and start whining, then what do you expect? Do you enjoy this?
I’m reluctant to converse with you, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel, or rather like shooting one really stupid fish that impaled itself on the end of the barrel!
And FYI, if one person says you’re a wanker, they’re the wanker, if EVERYBODY says you’re a wanker, you can be pretty sure it’s you that is the wanker!
Oh yeah, I’m sure you have been shown this many, MANY times, but get somebody to read this to you.
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/
Aaahh typing wanker that many times feels good…
I vote for Theda and Kittehs taking over the thread. Anything is more interesting than some wanker whining.
Confession here, kitteh, when I happen to catch a glimpse of my cat taking a dump outside, I laugh my ass off. The expression, the way she positions her tail. I’m not proud, but there ya go. When she pees, she simply sits, lowers her head and closes her eyes. Funny too, but not as much as the dumping.
I have to get some sleep. Enjoy making fun of me… after all, I am just a subhuman white man.
No. I have not. I am FibiBotV27.231, I am incapable of commiting logical fallacies. And that is real.
You see, “Groups” are composed of individuals. If individuals engage in behaviour, that behaviour forms the basis of the group. Any other claim would be social functionalism and that needs underlying causes you can readily define.
That is how groups are defined and formed.
Friends and family and lovers of white men cannot also hate white men as a group, because they are being, actively, friends, family and lovers of white men as individiduals, the people in their lives. Your friends, lovers and family probably love, revere and like you for the joy you bring them.
If you assume they still hate “White men”; but make some kind of special rule for you ala “Normally, we hate white men, but you, Pro-Equinox, you’re okay!” you are assuming they like you despite your “White-ness”.
You are calling all your friends racist. And you are stating that their ability to like several white people is somehow insubstantial compared to some “social” concept of “hating white men”.
That is the logical fallacy.
One cannot hate something one also loves. The two emotions are contrast.
Attributes of society cannot be derived from the study of groups if those groups engage in special rituals that influence other groups, because no coherent, congent analysis will be arrived at.
Your friends like you for you. You are also white. Clearly, your friends like you and are not racists who would disparage some larger group of “White men” and only “White men”.
Do you wish to play again? Y/N?
Corporate CEOs and Wall Street honchos, mostly white men, and pretty widely despised. I’m sure they weep themselves to sleep every night, on their mattresses stuffed with money, and would gladly trade it all to come back as a disabled woman of color.
You’re a turd, irrelevant of your ethnicity or gender.
PEMRA This “monsters of society”, I know where it’s coming from. It’s an immature response to valid sociological observations. Someone talks about rape culture – “Stop calling me a monster!”. Someone talks about inequitable wealth distribution – “Stop calling me a monster!” And so on. It all comes from an unhealthy obsession with yourself as the centre of the universe. Instead of putting your mind to addressing these problems, you’re whimpering in a corner thinking everyone’s being mean to you. And that’s all i’ve got to say to you. You’re worse than a monster – you’re boring.
*waits patiently to see whether pro-equality mra is actually getting to sleep or just poorly flouncing*
There should be a verb in there instead of a conjunction. Shit.
Enjoy making fun of me. I am just a subhuman old lady.
@opheliamonarch, yes, I have seen that article before. It seems to me another justification as to why it’s okay to mock and belittle the monsterous horrible white men (or, even worse I guess, straight white men).
I love lots of white men. White, straight, cis men. They are great people, and they are extremely privileged. Just like I’m extremely privileged. The trick is to not be an enormous douche about it.
*yessss, called it*
You’re still missing the bit about being a boob, irrelevant of ethnicity, orientation or gender. Derp-a-doo.
Like I said, wanker!
Pizza with thin cornmeal crust is amazing. And eggplant on pizza is awesome, if it’s cooked right.
I’m sort of meh about deep dish pizza, though. I prefer my dough to sauce and toppings ratio to lean in the other direction.
I almost exclusively date white, straight, cis men, just not the ones who equate their woes with those of the significantly more oppressed. I mock those ones with the ones I date.
Fibinachi, your assumptions are incorrect. It is of course possible to like an individual member of a group while disliking that group as a whole. In fact, this is pretty common. So, the rest of your post is built of a basis of stupid, and can be disregarded.
Sorry, that was aimed at wanky wanker.
@fade
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Not tired, huh?
… How do I encapsulate links nicely?
Oh, on the note of eggplant
I tried an eggplant recipe (cooking it for the first time) earlier, and my family actually liked it! I mean, I liked it, too, but it’s good my family liked it b/c I made way more than one serving.
I just have to try more recipies (I think earlier we were talking about baba ganoush?) to see if I like eggplant, or just that one recipe.
In case PEMRA is poorly flouncing, NARS has come out with a really great new lip pencil.
http://www.sephora.com/satin-lip-pencil-P378859?skuId=1478510
Yay, I’m a winner!
Do this for links [a href="www.link.com"] text you want the link to say [/a]
but with < pointy brackets
I’m getting to know zucchini. Historically the texture has been too much for me to take. If I can embrace zucchini, I can get over the texture of aubergine too.
PEMRA: poor flounce. Go to bed.
You know what, FUCK THAT BULLSHIT AND FUCK YOU!!!! When a white man runs away from a FUCKING EXPLOSION, along with EVERYBODY ELSE, and gets investigated for doing so, then come fucking cry to me. When a white man who has been reported missing, with concerns of being suicidal, is accused of orchestrating the bombing and his family has to have to listen to the fucking news bloviating without evidence, while they don’t even know if he’s alive or not then come fucking cry to me. When every time something fucking happens white men have to be worried about being accosted in the streets and told to go back to some fucking country that has no connection to them whatsoever, and live in fear of their health and lives then come fucking cry to me.
I’m sorry you’re fucking sad. I’m sorry you’re fucking anxious. Go to a fucking therapist, and unload your worries, and get some fucking help for yourself. And after that, please get some fucking perspective
Seems wanky PEMRA hasn’t worked out why he hates himself, anyway, there’s a show in the UK that makes all female company look awesome, mind bleach anyone?
Oh yeah, it’s set in a prison, and proves women are awesomely funny!
Go Shadow. I wouldn’t worry about his being sad, I have a feeling he’s doing this for the lulz, so fuck his feels.
No. I am FibibotV27.232.
Having fixed the recent issue of wanting to destroy all cans, this new software update is incapable of making false assumptions.
And that’s real.
If you dislike a group as a whole, you must dislike the constituent parts of it. If you do not, you actively dislike some other attribute nominally unrelated to the group you claim to dislike.
I quite like white men.
I quite like white straight men.
You claim to be a white, straight man, and so far I find you disagree if polite.
This ire is based on your stated opinions and your views, not on any quality related to your whiteness or your manliness.
Conclusion:
You don’t get to move the defintion of disliking a group to suit your own misery.
Suggestion:
Read Karen Horney, Neurosis and Human Growth.
Addendum:
Play again? Y/N?
Sorry guys, my tongue loosened a little too much
@Shadow, I never denied that other people have problems, but it’s society that mocks and belittles and denies me my humanity and my own problems.
I’ve never really tried lip pencil. Is it for complete filling, like lippy in general, or does it work more to outline the lips under lippy?
Shiraz, I always laugh when Mads is taking a dump. She stands in the litter bin (a baby bath) on one back foot, with the others all up on the edge.
Fribs on the other hand just has us ready to jump with air freshener and a trowel, ‘cos her poos are biological weapons of mass sinus destruction.
Un-fucking-believable. What about that huge fuckin rant of mine was not to do with society?
@Shadow
I don’t think it was over the top. I actually think it summarized things (regarding “waaah, wahh, white men”) pretty well. Too bad pro-equality mra doesn’t really give a rip about anything outside his bubble and probably didn’t read or think about it.
Is it bra discussion time again? I think it is!
This is my favorite bra. It’s no longer in production, but I stocked up, and eBay still has a few.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-FREYA-RETRO-BASIC-PADDED-PLUNGE-BRA-30C-LIME-GREEN-WHITE-CHECK-/370789134452?pt=UK_Women_s_Lingerie&hash=item5654c13074
Shadow – well said!
PEMRA: fuck off, gobshite. White men are the only group who DON’T have their humanity denied on a regular basis, least of all by the disgusting group you’ve allied yourself with.
Go crawl back into your septic tank, you’ll be happier there.
I’m really glad you said what you said, Shadow.
@PEMRA:
This is where you went from hilariously clueless to truly appalling so I’m not going to respond to anything else you say.
Shadow: you got nothing to apologize for. Dipshit, on the other hand, with his appropriation of the oppression of others, owes ALL THE APOLOGIES.
Kitteh’s: it’s like a lipstick in pencil form.
Let’s just try to cut to the chase:
Are you angry that people know that white privilege and male privilege exist? Yes/no
Because if you don’t think they exist, how about you google around and educate yourself before embarrassing yourself infront of a gazillion strangers on the internet
Test.