Mark Minter takes on Marriage, Mangina Manservants and America’s Matriarchal Infrastructure
Mark Minter’s worst nightmare
Today I’m feeling lazy, so I’m just going to pass along some thoughts from Mark Minter, a fellow best known, insofar as he is known, for leaving melodramatic manospherian manifestos – look, three “m’s” in a row! — in other people’s comments sections. I’ve written about him before – twice! — and he’s recently returned to his old habit of leaving his droppings in the comments here.
This little masterpiece of purplish prose, however, was left in the comments section of Roosh V’s Return of Kings blog (and brought to my attention by a commenter here), where he gets a much friendlier reception than he gets in these parts. His topic: Returning to the United States after spending time abroad. (I’ve cut out big chunks of his comments, as Minty is a tad long-winded.)
I have been back 3 years and I do not seek to engage America in any way. I stay home, on the internet. I shop in the middle of the night for food. When I must be out in the day, I move quickly, efficiently. I interact little with this society that I am no longer a part of. Some of that is age but a lot of is that I have killed my American self and I feel no affection for it, no loyalty to it, and I shall discard it forever, soon. The only connection is feel to it is you, you band of renegade rebels to whom I feel a kindred spirit.
We few, we happy few, we band of douchebags!
Despite the claims of feminists, America is the Matriarchy, the land owned and dominated by women and their mangina menservants, their guards, their infrastructure that so caters to them, their laws.
Yes, it’s true. Along with its mangina manservants — hi, everybody! — America has a Matriarchal Infrastructure. For example, this power plant, located just outside Dacron, Ohio, is devoted entirely to providing electricity for women’s Hitachi Magic Wands.
Anyway, back to Mark’s riveting ruminations:
You see it when upon landing in America. In other places, immigration is almost a “lip service”, a gang of sorts to get money from you when you arrive and when you leave. The security you must pass, when entering. is almost a joke compared to what you encounter when you arrive in America. And it is far greater when you leave, those airlines and airport security forces have a procedure that is not so much that the idea of the country you are leaving, but rather the dictates of America, and its women.
Clearly, only women want border security. If it were up to men, anyone could just waltz in no questions asked, carrying bombs, heroin, large snakes, strange insects, bootleg t.A.T.u. CDs, what have you.
And here you are not a man, but a functionary, a manservant, a slave to women. You see it when you arrive, you feel it, you know it, that stripping of your masculine dignity that begins the moment you leave the plane and enter an American terminal, that herding, that loss of the you that is you. And you see it as you come out on these clean, lit streets, this great giant boring shopping mall, all designed for women, all policed for women, all at the behest of women and those manginas that have bought in … .
Damn you, America and your good lighting! Fuck you and your infernal lack of litter!
It is more than merely cultural, more than social, it is even biological. This matriarchy has dominated even nature here, controlled every last aspect, even the dirt, even the germs, all of the animals, and certainly, all of the men.
It’s true. ALL OF THE ANIMALS. Even my cats are women. Spoiled, pampered women who expect everything handed to them on a silver platter!
Well, not so much a silver platter as little paper plates. Also, I make them poop in a box. But you get the idea.
If you stay, you will remain in angst, a slave to women.
When I close my eyes the image I see is elsewhere.
Weird. I see the completely unilluminated inside of my eyelids, which is not a terribly interesting view.
And when I die, the fact I got to live elsewhere for a time, will dwarf what I feel about here. It is the basis of my rants about marriage and this American life as a married man being insipid, stupid, and a waste of the life of man. Because it ties you to here, it chains you, it removes your option, your hope, that you might leave, and seals your fate as a slave.
So, I guess … don’t get married then? Problem solved!
I don’t think the women of Matriarchal America are going to miss out greatly from you removing yourself from the marriage market. So, seriously, go right ahead.
NOTE: There is no Dacron, Ohio.
Posted on April 23, 2013, in antifeminism, crackpottery, drama kings, imaginary backwards land, imaginary oppression, kitties, manginas, marriage strike, matriarchy, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, PUA, rhymes with roosh, western women suck and tagged antifeminism, cats, misogyny, pick-up artists, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,037 Comments.
Dane: Women are not build to lead and innovate.
Do you wear fiber based clothing? Is it the color of the plant/animal it came from? If you do, and it’s not, that’s because women figured out how to spin, dye and weave.
Do you eat bread? That’s because women figured out how to crush seeds, and cook them in a paste.
Do you use a computer? That’s because Ada Lovelace figured out how to program, and Grace Hopper figured out how to compile.
Did your predecessors have to retype an entire page because of a single typo (ok, your predecessors probably didn’t care)? That’s because Bette Nesmith Graham invented Liquid Paper (and patented it. and sold it, and made both a fortune for herself, and saved huge amounts of paper and time in all sorts of businesses).
Do you get anything from shops in a paper bag?
Thank Francis Wolle, who invented the automatic bag folding machine.
Do you know anyone who has had Lasik cataract removal? Thank Patricia Bath.
Even seen a 3-D object rendered in real time? Then you have to give credit to Valerie Thomas.
Do you like to drive? Ever done it in the snow, or rain; or used windshield wipers to clean the dust from the glass? Thank Mary Anderson.
Barbara Askins invented a way to make all sorts of photography more exact, which chance research photos, in space, and in things like diagnostic x-rays.
Ever worn Kevlar? Or used a car that had it in the tires (or skis, bridge cables, etc.)? That would be the work of Stephanie Kwolek.
Rachel Zimmerman invented a way to communicate for people with inabilities in speaking (palsy, stroke, etc.) to communicate; she was 12 when she did it.
Yeah, women don’t do shit; they do great work.
You, of course, will say they are outliers, not the run of the mill woman. This is true, but Edison, Tesla, Babbage, etc. were outliers too; and they weren’t doing the work they did while raising families, and being told (from social pressure to legal obstacles. Ms. Knight had to fight several lawsuits to defend her patents), so they did more than an equivalent man.
One would also have to accept that any number of women might have done more, were they not prevented by such obstacles.
Dane: LOl just proved my point, you just cried rape culture.
I’ll take cheap rhetorical flourish for 500 Alex.
That’s weak sauce. I understand why you don’t want to talk about rape culture, but pretending it’s not a valid subject is sad. I mean the next thing you are likely to do is start to talk about false accusations of rape, or how the wage gap isn’t a thing and we all know those are both wrong.
Yeah, no. Trying invalidate an idea, just because you don’t like it is bullshit. You want to defeat the theory, you need a theory which better explains the observed phenomena.
Good luck with that.
Dane: A lot of women are “troubled” then, because that thing happens ALOT. Easiest way to get pussy is to become a famous killer. At least admit that.
This must be some new definition of easy.
Lets see… first I have to kill people (ok, I could do that).
But I have to do it in a way which is notorious, one which makes me famous.
Which means I have to get caught. I have to be tried. Odds are I go to prison; where I’ll be denied the chance to spend time with women.
Even if I manage to be acquitted, it’s going to be expensive, and I’ll have spent some bit of time in jail, again; a place with a lack of women/chances to have sex with same.
As a means of, “getting pussy”, it seems flawed, esp. compared to my (so far as I’m concerned, quite successful) method of treating them like people.
I don’t get where this “woman go for serial killers” thing came from. The only place I’ve heard about it is in MRA talking points. I mean, even if serial killers did get fan mail or w/e from 1500 women (in america), that’d be like, .01% of the entire population of women. So… I can beliee they get some fanmail or w/e, but I can’t believe it’s a significant amount until being linked to some data, which I am guessing Troll Boy will not provide.
(And trollboy, in case you’re reading: This data must come from a valid source, not an MRA site, and I’d want it to show their way of collecting data so I know no one’s messing with the numbers)
Fade: It’s a category error, and it’s more than one in combination.
1: Famous people get lots of attention.
2: Notorious people get lots of attention.
3: Ergo, serial killers get lots of attention.
That’s one.
1: Most men don’t get “lots” of attention from women, certainly not hundreds of women writing them fanmail.
2: Any woman who writes to a serial killer must be disturbed.
That’s two.
Then they ignore the men who write fanmail (or the ones writing economia, e.g. the praise for Tsarnaev in the Manosphere). They also forget that the one, or two, women, who fall for the serial killer (of the, for sake of argument, 1,500 who write) are those the serial killer chose to respond to. Said serial killer also has time. Time to craft responses, spot leads/weaknesses, interests. It’s not a casual meeting, where chemistry, common interests, people they both know, etc. can be exchanged. It’s an artificial environment, which the killer has time to shape and direct.
That a manipulative person is successful in manipulating people is somehow an indictment of women.
Right.
OK see you later, it was fun for a while but for now I have grown weary of talking to people so far below my intellect…
Aw, he did the thing where he traveled so far down the intellectual scale he looped back up, and now thinks he’s smarter than us! You keep journeying down that mental decline, doll, and be sure to keep us updated on who you encounter; it promises to be a fascinating glimpse into the troll psyche.*
*Lies. Nothing you do is fascinating.
Yea lets have a list of female scientist vs a list of male scientist last 20 years..
No contests, but nice try.
And yea you can have females visiting you in jails. Try watch something else in tele than realityshows xD
And now he’s using emoticons!
Next he’ll say the success of 50 Shades of Gray proves that all women want to be beaten into submission.
Regardless of any potential ESL issues I have to say that I’m not seeing a whole lot of intelligence here.
Tom, didn’t you say you were gonna flounce like fifteen comments ago? You men are so fickle.
Yea lets have a list of female scientist vs a list of male scientist last 20 years..
No contests, but nice try.
By the Logic of Dane I WIN.
Seriously dude, don’t lead with your right.
inarushi: It was http://manboobz.com/2013/04/23/mark-minter-takes-on-marriage-mangina-manservants-and-americas-matriarchal-infrastructure/comment-page-10/#comment-292506>thirteen hours ago, he lasted about six hours… but don’t worry, checking manboobz isn’t important to him.
And Dane… the most recent post here on manboobz puts paid to your, “lets compare how many scientists in the past twenty years (and that, so cleverly, ignores all the can’t live without them achievements I mentioned by women… no women, and you don’t have that computer you use to say how stupid women are… again, you really ought to learn to spot when someone is getting ready to play rope-a-dope with you).
Yes, if they are imaginary. Or inflatable, but only if you have special privileges.
Okay, seriously. To begin with, the federal prison system does not permit conjugal visits to prisoners in federal custody. Like, at all. As for state prison systems, only six states currently allow conjugal visits. Even in those states, however, there are numerous limitations. Maximum security prisons do not allow conjugal visits. Prisoners convicted of violent offenses are not eligible for conjugal visits, even if they are not held in maximum security housing. Prisoners who are infected with HIV are not eligible, even if they are not violent, and not housed in maximum security.
Even those prisoners who ARE eligible for conjugal visits, can only have them with a spouse or a registered long-term partner. In other words, the state will not accommodate commercial encounters, groupies or casual sex.
Bottom line, violent male offenders don’t get to have women visit them while in prison, contrary to what you might have conjured up in your fevered misogynistic fantasies.
That’s just something for you to keep in mind, Dane, before you go blow up a girls’ school.
Also, I gotta comment on Tom Dane’s claim that women don’t speak foreign languages. Isn’t the whole MRA thing about languages that women supposedly have greater verbal abilities, and therefore foreign language requirements at school are part of the Feminazi Conspiracy to disadvantage boys? Jesus, bigots, pick your bigotry.
Also, Dane? As a speaker of several languages, I am a big fan of the Whole Language principle, the upshot of which is that “English isn’t my native language” does not constitute a valid defense against manifest stupidity. Both literacy and illiteracy spread quite smoothly across all languages that multilingual individuals speak. People who are eloquent in their native language tend to be surprisingly eloquent and expressive in foreign languages as well, even if their vocabulary is limited, and they make grammatical mistakes. But if you see an ESL speaker who is basically incoherent, this is a good indication he’s about equally incoherent in his native langauge.
You mean Prison Break lied to me?
RE: ESL
Yeah, he can’t really use not knowing English very well to justify his bigotry because his grammar and vocab are fine. It’s the ideas that are awful.
*dramatic faint*
Damn, my dramatic faint was supposed to go after prison break lying to me, not his awful ideas.
Being as dumb as Tom should be painful. Like, he should get shocked every time he goes to type/vomit out one of his dear little posts.
Seconding Amused’s point. Intelligence tends to shine through even when someone is struggling with a second language. If there wasn’t any intelligence there to begin with, though…
Cassandra: when one lacks wit, the audience tends to doze off, and the sound one hears in reply is brzzzzz.
Complains about how ignorant women are.
Thinks television is a reliable source of information.
LOL that’s perfect
I’ve been hearing him as a buzzing insect all along. His own fault – he chose the name!
“Easiest way to get pussy is to become a famous killer. At least admit that.”
Actually the easiest way to get pussy is to go to a shelter and adopt a cat. ;)
“You mean Prison Break lied to me?”
Actually it didnt. Sucre had his girlfriend visiting him, and they had a full hour in privacy. You You would know hadnt you zapped to Jersey Shores :) :) xD
Tom, stop pretending to not speak English, it’s fucking creepy.
No, seriously, you’re citing TV shows and claiming we’re the ones who are ignorant?
Im getting famous because of this thread. Soon all the women on the blog will have to throw themselves at me :):)
Lol. XD
….
Seriously…
*this guy is cracking me up*
Dude, I watched the TV show*. It was sarcasm. I was saying that TV is not an exactly reliable source, especially when it’s a fictional show.
I’ll let you know that Michael Schofield isn’t real, too. It wasn’t a documentary. ;)
*cannot believe I have to defend my tv-show watchingness to a troll. =P
Im pretending I dont speak english ? How do you pretend to not speak english and speak it at the same time :?!?
“Tom, didn’t you say you were gonna flounce like fifteen comments ago? You men are so fickle.”
Yes I did, then came back 24 hours later. Thats a flounce whatever that is.
He’s getting famous because of this thread, guys. We’re playing right into his hands or something.
Oh man, I picked a bad troll to play with, coming back to the site. This guy’s too pathetic and confused to be funny.
“Yeah, he can’t really use not knowing English very well to justify his bigotry because his grammar and vocab are fine. It’s the ideas that are awful.”
I never said anything of the kind.
what were you bringing it up for, then? Someting about spelling?
All these trolls blur together, so you might have to remind me.
(ps, your ideas are still bigoted and awful)
I can express my opinion just as well as you can. Thats not trolling.
Yeah, you can exprss your opinion. That doesn’t make it any less of an awful opinion.
Thats a matter of opinion, and still not trolling. In that case you’re all trolls as well.
“1: Most men don’t get “lots” of attention from women, certainly not hundreds of women writing them fanmail.”
Yes they do. If they are famous. It seems to me that why they became famous is of lesser importance. Gonna take a break I dont want to spam this discussion.
I’m gonna start calling Tom Dane “Marmaduke” after the slobbering, ill-mannered and stupid dog in the comics. I don’t know why, but it seems right somehow…
Apparently, in Tom Dane’s world, “most men” are famous.
I can express my opinion just as well as you can
nope
Apparently, in Tom Dane’s world, “most men” are famous.
His mom thinks he’s famous… *pout*
@Amused “manifest stupidity.”
Fool, they talked bullshit about my language at first thats why I said english is not my native tounge. Your english is pretty good as expected but theres nothing there that is even the slightest difficult for me to understand and is not impressing anyone, esp when you’re missing all the points.
Dane: I can express my opinion just as well as you can. Thats not trolling.
I’ll grant you half of this statement, expressing an opinion isn’t trolling. I’m not going to stipulate you can express yourself as well as I do. I won’t even say you do it as well as Fade.
Tell ya what… you take a stab at expressing yourself in your native language (whatever that may be) and if any of us speaks it, we’ll see if that helps.
Otherwise, you are a shitty communicator; hiding behind a claim that Enlish isn’t your native tongue to hide an incredible infelicitous use of words, and a terrible set of actual ideas, which you choose not to defend.
In support of my claim (take notes, this is how it’s done), I offer this “rebuttal” from you.
“1: Most men don’t get “lots” of attention from women, certainly not hundreds of women writing them fanmail.”
Yes they do. If they are famous.
D’uh…! That was my argument. These, “serial” killers you are on about are getting the attention, not because women like serial killers, but because these serial killers are famous. Your “response” is to make a tautological agreement as if it were refutation.
QED, you can’t express yourself as well as I.
Tommy: @Amused “manifest stupidity.”
Fool, they talked bullshit about my language at first
No, they made fun of your spelling. It’s not that we care so much about spelling (nor even, actually, typing; people don’t get on me for being less than perfect at tapping the keys), so much as you said stupid shit and that was moar amusing then dealing with yet another set of, “women suck, men rool!” from the peanut gallery.
Forgive us, we get bored of the same schtick, at least put some new leaves in the pot when you want to have a brew-up; that would make it entertaining. But you haven’t the talent to do that; instead leaning on the same old shit; and dressing it up with “but I don’t speaks English so good”.
Since that’s been a mantra of the assholish sorts of late, it’s not getting the cushion it might in other fora. Sucks to be you.
If we say you’re trolling, you’re trolling. :-) ;-) :D =^.^=
Wait… did Tom just say “I don’t know what a flounce is, but I do know that what I just did was a flounce?”
And good bye underlings, you have but amused me for a while with your stubborn, yet foolish games, but for now I must leave you. I am needed elsewhere to address matters of much more urgent nature. But do not fear. I shall return..and once again..Tom Dane shall remain victorious !
LMAO !!!
shocker
(I think he has to pee?)
Of course they criticized your language — not because it’s the kind of English a foreigner would write, but because your writing reveals a vulgarian of low intelligence. You are incoherent; that’s the point. Which leads me to believe your rantings have about the same quality in your native tongue.
Shocker, Dane has to use the little boy’s room.
And then he tripped over a bathmat, fell face first into the toilet, and drowned. Because he was too stupid to think “oh, maybe if I sat up I would be able to breathe again”.
Hang on, before I catch up with this thread: Pell? Looks like it and he has a love of short male names.
I’m smelling sock here. Tom’s English level and typing seem suspiciously variable, and his little temper tantrums are rather Pellish.
Yep.
My money is also on Pell. Although excessive smileys always makes me think Om Nom…
@ Kitteh’s
you may be right. These bits, especially
struck me as rather pellish
Your english is pretty good as expected but theres nothing there that is even the slightest difficult for me to understand and is not impressing anyone,
I see someone doesn’t understand what language is for. If we wrote in a manner to abstruse, you wouldn’t understand, capiche? That would defeat the purpose, which is to convey meaning.
That, even with such simple words as you are using you are failing to make any points of note… well that’s a lack in your skills. I’d say you don’t manage much better than a Level 2 proficiency.
And he says “females”? That’s a clincher.
And I made a typo… “Too abstruse”. Had it been a grammatical “to” it would have been followed by, “abstrusely” but such a construction lacks euphony, and as such is to be avoided, unless there is a more pressing need for some sort of punctuated expression.
Some of Tom Dane’s bigoted opinions, in the off chance he tries to back track
Now, one might say lots of women could like serial killers and it would still be a statistically small amount, but his argument was that “people (as in women) who through themselves at serial killers cannot be taken seriously”. So you can’t take any woman seriously because a small, small percentage of them throw themselves at serial killers.
See:
Tom Dane, on men’s qualifications:
Tom Dane on women’s habits:
Tom Dane on the infamous “foreign women” the manospherians are so obsessed about:
Tom Dane on sexism:
Tom Dane on saying one thing then contradicting himself in the next sentence:
Tom Dane on Manboobzer’s sex lives:
(also note the rating of women as numbers, which he later claimed everyone does so it’s okay)
TL;DR Tom, it’s not your language that is making people not like you. It’s your opinions. And they are not just as valid as non bigoted opinions.
APEX FALLACY!
That hurt my ears.
Is it just me, or is it really creepy and gross when misogynists talk about having sex in terms of “getting pussy?” It sounds so degrading and objectifying. Yuck.
It is creepy and gross. It talks about it as if there is no woman there, the only objective is to have sex.
Well, for most of those guys, a woman is the annoying and disgusting fleshy protuberance that surrounds a vagina, not only unfairly and cruelly denying them access to that vagina whenever they want but also having the temerity to have feelings, desires, needs, ideas, opinions, etc. that really only belong to actual humans (you know, men).
Yurgh.
On the other hand, Katz has several whole blog posts devoted to kittens, did you all see?! I’ve gone back there repeatedly to cheer myself up whenever the trolls get too tedious! I think this one is my favorite. Bran gives a hearty “pbbbbbbbbt” to misogyny.
“Is it just me, or is it really creepy and gross when misogynists talk about having sex in terms of “getting pussy?” It sounds so degrading and objectifying. Yuck.”
Yep. Like gillyrosebee said, they object to vaginas having women attached to them (although they mostly seem to obsess over breasts as well). They’re pretty much summed up by the turd who made a phone app (I think it was) of a picture of a woman’s torso, to be attached to a Fleshlight.
Of course there’s some conflict for these scum as well: they hate women and want access to our genitals without the bother of us being people, but at the same time a lot of them seem to get their kicks from the idea of hurting or distressing us. They’d miss out on that if they just did the logical thing and kept to Fleshlights or sex dolls.
It’s one more reason why this whole “alpha cock carousel” thing makes me laugh. Seriously, if the penis is the only thing of interest, there are frankly better substitutes out there, and have been for a century-plus! The idea of being interested solely in the genitals is something I can’t imagine feeling. It’s the person they’re attached to that matters. But that goes back to MRAs basic problem – if they’re not diagnosably sociopathic, they’re doing their damndest to imitate it, because other people (women most of all, but not solely) as people is a concept that seems to elude them.
Losers, losers, losers …
::glances sideways and smiles::
“Getting pussy” is short for the entire package, otherwise we would just use artificial, thats pretty obvious no reason for that pointless post, and being critical about some parts of female behavior is not being a misogynist in that case you would be misandric since you spent ur entire life critizing men :) :). Try to read my posts more closely next time :),
Btw, a pussy is a vital part of it, would you sleep with a man with no d!ck :)
Hey, Tom, do you still think that all women are irrational because a small portion of them write fanmail to serial killers?
Because if you do, I see no reason to engage in you. ;)
And yes, I would sleep with a man with no dick. And misandry does not exist on a institutional level, not that I’d expect a troll like you to understand what institutional means.
And if you want to say “getting pussy” as short for the entire package, just say “getting laid”. It’s one syllable less long and doesn’t sound like it’s referring to a disembodied vagina.