Most misogynists, it would seem, are loath to admit that they’re misogynists. “How can you say I hate women?” they’ll ask. “After all, I love my sister. She’s not like the rest of those whores.” Or, “I just hate Western Women.” Or whatever fine distinction they like to make to pretend that their hatred of pretty much every woman they ever come across, or imagine in their overheated little brains, is something other than misogyny.
Then there are those who not only admit their misogyny but who are downright proud of it, thinking it’s a sign of their own personal superiority. Today, a pretty good example of Proud Misogyny, taken from the reactionary Christian blog Samson’s Jawbone.
Our intrepid woman-hater starts off by contrasting his brand of misogyny to the peculiar kind of woman-appreciation advocated by the PUA gasbag now known as Heartiste (but still known as Roissy when this post was written):
Roissy is fond of saying that he’s not a “misogynist”; no, learning the unvarnished truth about female psychology has given him a *higher* appreciation for women. Not so for me. Sociosexual philosophy has disillusioned me beyond all reckoning. Peering deep into the psyche of woman has rendered me grievously scornful in feeling and mercilessly unscrupulous in behaviour towards these unholy, ungodly beings. I venture to say that… I hate them. Yes, I hate them! And how could I not?
Did I mention that he has literary pretensions as well? Like a lot of reactionaries, Mr. Jawbone has adopted a melodramatic, vaguely archaic prose style that he evidently feels is the height of literary sophistication, but which sounds a lot more like the monologuing of some cartoon villain.
Oh, the vile criteria by which women judge menfolk! O, abominable, loathsome beings!
Is anyone else reminded of Newman from Seinfeld?
But Mr. Jawbone is just getting started:
A creature so damnably constituted as to admire a man for his “social dominance” – by which is meant his ability to waltz through an absurd series of meaningless, contrived riddles – rather than his work ethic, his self-sacrifice, his affability, his charity, his honesty, his justice – in short, his righteousness and integrity; such a creature deserves to be used and abused like a cheap street harlot – or better yet, a vermin-ridden ass – and discarded appropriately. Nothing more; she merits nothing better.
Here’s an actual vermin-ridden ass, having a nice scratch in the dirt:
Oh, but Mr. Jawbone isn’t done yet:
Words like “honour”, “duty”, “kindness”… those things that define goodness and rightness… all meaningless, meaningless to this wretched, wicked half of the human race. And do women who profess belief in something “higher”; women who should know better, afford any solace? No. Instead they show themselves as fraudulent, fickle hellcats who think good men are “weak”. So alas, I can no longer view the distaff horde with anything besides revulsion and contempt. They perjure themselves by their own words; they are beasts, deserving nothing but callous treatment and damnation; and I can wish nothing upon them but furious hatred, ignominy and a miserable passing.
What a cheery fellow!
I take no joy in penning the above – but I feel clean and spotless as the lamb. What else is to be said for a lot that believes black to be white, up to be down, and good men to be worthless? Poor Ashley Wilkes, and all good men.
Hate to break it to you, dude, but you’re not actually a good man. You’re a pompous dickbag. Oh, sorry, you’re a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave!
(Thanks to Shakespeare for that last insult, and to Quackers for pointing me to Mr. Jawbone’s post.)
Tina – seconding what Falconer said!
Yay a shout-out!! I’m glad I could provide a source for a Manboobz post!
Does anyone outside of these assholes’ followers take them seriously? this guy is so over the top ridiculous that I couldn’t help but laugh at his melodramatic writing.
It sure is nice knowing how much women are hated simply for existing though, and then they wonder why so many “modern” women are supposedly unpleasant or not open enough. Maybe because we’re sick of having hate thrown at as all the time? I’m so thankful I haven’t met anyone like this offline, hopefully it continues that way.
First – CITATION NEEDED, especially regarding the contents of Elam’s inbox. If he doesn’t ‘exploit’ it, in your opinion, how do you know?
Second – No one should be harassed, especially with rape and death threats. I don’t care how much you agree or disagree with their position, that’s no excuse for harassment.
For the record, this site isn’t harassment. This is mocking offensive opinions, in an essentially private space.
Edit: I’d meant to say “this site and ones like it, on all sides of issues.” I may not like places like AVfM and the like, but when they’re just complaining (not harassing, not threatening, not doxing, etc), they do have the right to complain.
Tina-
I too am sick of this MRA trope. Are there men that sacrifice for women? sure. But there are women who sacrifice for men too. And it’s not like men are told they must die for women….where are they getting this? I’d really like some examples, and war is not one because the reasons for war is simply not to save the womenfolk, its a hell of a lot more complex than that to anyone with a functioning brain.
The only men who have sacrificed for me, in that they raised and/or cared about me were my family members. But so have the women in my family. I’ve yet to meet a man outside of my family to treat me any differently than I am treated by women outside of my family. I’m pretty certain none of my friends male or female would risk their lives for me if it came up, and why should they? People rarely give a shit about other people unless they are family or in extremely close relationships, and its bullshit to pretend women don’t do a fair share of caring. How many women today still sacrifice their careers, and pure economic freedom to raise a family? plenty.
Actually the whole men save women crap comes from damsel in distress type stories, entertainment where the men are always the heroes and the women have to get saved.
And then they say Anita Sarkeesian complains about stupid things. Yeah, and complaining about how the poor men must always sacrifice for women isn’t stupid?
The irony is that both these complaints are two sides of the same coin, if you actually show women doing the saving/sacrificing more in entertainment, its less likely to put the idea that only men have to do it, and that it’s a man’s duty. Yet how many times have I heard MRAs derisively sneer at “grrrrrl power” characters? because they don’t believe women have it in them to save anyone. They think women are useless and weak. Even though its proven they are not, ie the women teachers in the Sandy Hook shooting who protected their students, some even dying for them.
So as usual, sod off Mickey. Its your ilk that tell women they are weak and useless then moan about how they have to do all the sacrificing and saving. Not only are you or other men ever going to be forced to do so, but if you are sick of the idea, then you damn well better embrace our attempts to put out stronger and heroic female characters so it can free you from that horrible, evil stereotype of being a hero that everyone loves.
Plys the whole “damsel in distress” trope has nothing to do with men not seeking medical help when they need it. They don’t do that to protect women or to sacrifice thenselves for others. They do it for their own personal reasons, either because they think it shows weakness (thanks, patriarchy)or because they are scared. And they don’t confide in others about it for the same reasons, which means they are less likely to be persuaded by their friends/partners to go.
In the UK, we have a problem with men preferring to go to the A&E rather than their GP. So they waste up valuable hospital time as well as going to somewhere without access to their medical history. No one says the patriarchy doesn’t damage men, too, but let’s not pretend it’s women making these choices for them.
@cloudiah
, I think people have been calling for Landsberg to go for a while. He does have a history of pretty awful “contrarian” thinking – most of which is just “See, Libertarianism is the answer, and that is all about how awesome white men are, it’s just SCIENCE!”.
Well, that’s the impression I’ve gotten from his readings.
(I also get the impression he would fit right in with the Lord High Domly Doms of Domness from the thread a week or so ago.)
@tomBcat
you’re new avatar looks so strange…
That’s a nice kitty pic <3
@cassandrasays
Omg where are you guys making all these cute kitties!!
@mickey
The negative effects of patriarchy on men are not misandry. Say it with me 😛
@cloudiah
Ugh may he step on all the legos. May his milk always be sour. May he never find a cute fluffy animal that wants to relieve him of his troubles. When I first heard about him I assumed it was just some lone loser on the internet, not a professor, and then my dad asks me if I’ve heard and I’m like ‘oh shit’ >:(
So glad I wasn’t drinking anything XD
@purple prick
Haha. No.
@mickey
Just because men have most of the power doesn’t mean they are responsible for the patriarchal stereotypes that hurt men. Clearly someone else has been making them this whole time.
Wait, let me find a link for you here….
glockgal.tumblr.com/post/46946762042/theviraltruth-the-first-amendment-does-not
There. Just mull it over for a few
seconds. Minutes. You’ll need at least a couple minutes.With citations I pulled out of my ass. Citation needed *throws up sparkles* (Who has penicuim’s (sp?) sparkly gif?
Fun with trolls in the morning! What fun! Anyway, posting this before it gets too long so I don’t bore you all…at least till I make another comment *laughs evilly*
Yes, Yoyo, I remember the breakfast scene in Halo Jones — that was good stuff.
Falconer, could your avatar be any cuter? That looks like my cat, Alice.
@Marie
here!
shared it yesterday and now everyone will die in front of their keyboards. So caution! Very catdictive.
@cloudiah
But using words in standard ways is mysadnry 😛
@yoyo
Aww, you’re in the hospital? I hope you get better soon.
@mickey
God, the poor thing, he was only saying raping someone is no big deal. Let me play him the tiniest violin.
So was paul elam ‘attacked by box cutter wielding feminists’ guy? I need to know for irony points.
Just adding my two cents into the tv show conversation, but as much as I love justice league, the last season of JLU was so boring. I had to force myself to sit through it for former love’s sake. So I’d stop after the third season (of Justice League +JLU). Heck, I wasn’t a huge fan of JLU in the first place, but at least it didn’t make me scratch my head and go ‘what went wrong???’. Although maybe that’s because Hawkgirl seemed to get like 0 consistent charictarization in the fourth one (heck, in the finale + coming up of the third one) and I love Hawkgirl so I am bitter. Wow that turned into a rant but I am bitter XD Anyway, so justice league- yay! first season of JLU- decent for characters you haven’t seen, but kind of meh on the originals, 2nd season of JLU- Marie rants.
@tina
Internet hugs if wanted. Nothing wrong with ranting.
@tomBcat
Yay thank you I shall play it now!!!! 😀
@Marie…
just…come back someday, ok? Don’t get lost 🙂
Because there’s also links to making bunnies!finally I found a bunny-maker! No more forcing cats to be rabbits!), foxes, dragons, different cats…
@tomBcat
…bunny maker? *wants*
Something tells me I’m going to be spending a lot of time on these makers today XD
Marie:
http://img33.glitterfy.com/12117/glitterfy2193958T831D30.gif
Citation needed!
@howard bannister
Sweet 😀 thanks. Bookmarked for future reference.
https://twai.deviantart.com/art/Bunny-Creator-2-0-326013340
Ich machs mal nur so weil ichs eilig hab.
Whoops, fuck!
I’m on the run and got language-confused.
Anyway, bunny maker!
Yay thanks for bunny link! 😀
My first kitty: http://imgur.com/JwlJEQQ
Guys, scroll back to the previous page, find Emily’s link to female science professor’s blog, and read the post about the MRA dude spamming her. A lot of it is standard MRA fare, but there are some chuckles in there too. Especially, as Emily notes, just seeing how people who are totally unaware of this little subculture react to learning of its existence…
I think the guy in the post is mistaking women for lovecraftian horrors.
…bunny maker? *wants*
I think a bunny maker is just 2 bunnies. ;p
Or one vengeance demon with no memory and a randomly chosen spellbook.
Breaking news from CNN! “A federal judge in New York has ordered the Food and Drug Administration to make the morning-after pill available over the counter to people of any age. The ruling overturns a decision by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to require a prescription for girls under 17. Emergency contraceptives prevent a pregnancy by preventing a fertilized egg from embedding in the uterus. They are intended for use within 72 hours after sex but are most effective if taken within 24 hours. Proponents say requiring a prescription can delay access to the drug.”
Also, apparently those violent, misandrist counter-protesters at the UofT event pulled a fire alarm again — or at least someone did. You know, just like happens in college dorms every time finals roll around, like clockwork. And people had signs saying mean things about MRAs, and they even chanted things. Stalinists!