Manosphere misogynists: Perpetually angry that women can say no?
Women: Not obliged to say “yes.”
I‘m beginning to wonder if every single complaint from manosphere misogynists comes back to their rage at the fact that women get to decide who can have sex with them. Take the following comment from MGTOWforums.com. The ostensible topic of conversation? A study reporting that women tend to feel more stressed than men at work. Watch how deftly MGTOWforums “senior member” 7 Deadly Sins turns the topic from “women in the workplace” to “my sad penis.”
They wanted to work so now they’re working. Oh work is too hard and stressing you out? Too bad. You wanted to be career whores, right ? Enjoy. If you give women what they ask for, they still want more. Who cares if they’re stressed out? They can always get dicked down and take some of the edge off. Men can’t get sex whenever they “feel” like it. Nobody cares what you whores think or feel any more.
Damn. That’s some pretty intense boner rage there, dude.
Posted on March 25, 2013, in antifeminism, boner rage, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, oppressed men, penises, whores, women shouldn't work and tagged mgtow, misogyny. Bookmark the permalink. 1,147 Comments.
Learn some reading comprehension, ButtWeasel. That’s not what Emilygoddess said, and you know this, motherfucker.
Jerk Alert.
Buttman, you’re disappointing me. I thought we were all females, not women.
The words boner rage created an image in my head of a man angrily slapping his penis on a keyboard and I think it fits the mrm pretty well.
Really? For me it was a guy screaming violently at his screen while ripping off his pants, then running boner first through a closed door(still screaming, of course).
i am 9999% sure that when emily made the post about her AA friends who were raped and abused she meant that women don’t have to accept that they made the choice to begin drinking. 9234234324235% sure. infinitely sure. there’s no possible way she meant that their trauma and confusion made the choices available extremely bleak and limited. or maybe, just maybe, her point was that women also suffer from alcoholism at a pretty high level?
i can’t believe a man made me write this post. ugh. i h8 men.
@john-H and tomBcat
those are very strange mental images. Sadly, no matter how hard I try, every time I imagine John H’s, it seems the said boner must be detached as the angry man is holding it and slamming it at the keyboard.
This is not a conversation I ever thought I’d have…
@cherabushka
I confess, I really did not follow that post you made…Having a hard time understanding what you meant.
DataWeasel, I hope you will unlurk just to tell us how you made those pretty boxes. :D
ButtDude, I think he’s more concerned we will laugh so hard at you that we will do ourselves an injury.
@marie
sorry… i don’t know how to make a little reply box.
i was responding to buttman’s post insinuating that emilygoddess was saying by mentioning that many of the women in her AA group had suffered rape and abuse that women blame men entirely for their alcoholism.
to insinuate this, of course, would be wrong.
sorry if i confused anyone
Ok. For future reference, rebly box [blockquote] what you are replying to [/blockquote] but with instead of [ ]. or just quotes :P ” ”
“quote”
*prays to embed gods…*
Almost. With this kind < instead of [
Actually I’m pretty sure I read a study a while back that said that women are more consistently prescribed anti-depresants/anti-anxiety meds. But clearly that’s just evidence of women not being tough enough for the male workplace.
Thanks to this discussion of what “dicking down” means, I now have a mental image of one of those old-school Whack-a-Mole games, except the player uses a giant penis instead of a mallet and it is women popping up through the holes. Which, to be fair, could be a pretty good metaphor for the patriarchy.
Funny mental images all around. I just had one about “boner rage.” Essentially, a guy Hulking out — but just in his pants. Boner smash.
Is it just me or does it seem like these guys don’t experience anything about sexuality as being fun or playful or positive at all? Even the way they talk about actually having sex sounds like a miserable experience, and they certainly don’t seem to understand the ways in which any part of sexuality that doesn’t directly involve fucking right at that moment might be fun.
@shiraz.
That image amused me way too much XD
@ AK
I see your image and I raise you an image of a gender inverted whack-a-mole game.
Funny mental images all around. I just had one about “boner rage.” Essentially, a guy Hulking out — but just in his pants. Boner smash.
It would be hard (tee hee) to walk like that, so I imagine the boner rage guy would just kinda be stuck in place until he calms down. Why can’t this be a real thing? :p
Yes, if you assume that all men are either rapists or abusers or both.
@cloudiah
Misuse of the “
You’re an awful human being. Fuck off.
Observation – the pre monster may be more capricious than the dread blockquote moster
DataWeasel, welcome!
Das Butt – it’s all right, sweetie. We already know you’re an idiot, you don’t have to bust a gut trying to prove it. ::pats troll on head:: ::wipes hand::
Cassandra – “Is it just me or does it seem like these guys don’t experience anything about sexuality as being fun or playful or positive at all? Even the way they talk about actually having sex sounds like a miserable experience, and they certainly don’t seem to understand the ways in which any part of sexuality that doesn’t directly involve fucking right at that moment might be fun.”
The only pleasure I see them getting is from hurting women. Whether they’re actually rapists or not, I’d bet real money (not bitcoins!) that’s the be-all and end-all of their fantasies.
Oh, and I probably shouldn’t have written (“Hey, you! Yeah, you in the black tee! Get over here and dick me down now!”) before, ‘cos Himself promptly changed into a black tee when I did. Everybody wants to be a comedian …
Now I keep thinking that MEN must be an acronym for something, ’cause he keeps using all caps. Muscleheads who Enjoy Negging? Meaty Egg Nukers? I got nothing.
Whack-A-Dick, also a nice theme for a misandrist cake
(incidentally, my auto-correct doesn’t recognize misandrist as a word)
Whack-A-Dick sounds like when we call trolls pinatas. :D
@Buttman
In the nature of disclosure – I’m playing on the easy setting, none the less:
Buttman – grow up and find a clue. You are claiming that women as a class don’t take responsibility for their problems. Bullshit. Some women and perhaps somewhat more men don’t take/shift personal responsibility. Some men and perhaps somewhat more women take too much responsibility. And most people have a mixed record – taking responsibility in some cases and ducking it in others. There are gender socialization differences – in Western-centric societies, those with male socialization patterns are taught to assign blame and claim credit and those with female socialization patterns are taught to minimize blame and share credit (for meta-analysis of gender communications differences, see Canary et al, 97; Baumeister, 2001; Owen Blakemore et al, 2008; etc.).
Amongst adults, however, these differences tend to be known and understood. Albeit imperfectly. Thus the need for… wait for it… I know this is hard for trolls… communication. Starting with talking. Yes. Women and men can successfully talk to each other. With practice we even become good at it.
So, regardless of age, grow up. In your own twisted words, take some personal responsibility. And for fuck’s sake, stop blaming others for your (personal/group/class) situation.
TomBCat — I’m sorry to report that autocorrect (on iOS anyways) will learn misandrist.
Testing something:
DataWeasel — it’s short for pre formatted text, useful for showing code. Just use <blockquote> — we’ll figure it out!
Also, give me one second to put together your welcome package :)
Or it could be a recursive acronym?
Men: …(yeah, I’ve got nothing)
One welcome package for DataWeasel! The complementary welcome package consists of a misandrist hard chair, matching bath towels, SCENTED MOTHERFUCKING CANDLES and cupcakes, delivered by female (whore) penguins in spanx.
Men Emboding Nastiness
Misogynistic Extremist and I’ve run out of ideas for N.
@ Kitteh
died at the image of Wack-A-Dick pinhatas
also, on the subject of depressing sex, in my personal real life experience with MRAs it’s the theoretical sex they project so much hate on, completely detached from not only reality in general, but their own reality as well.
@Argenti Aertheri
Many thanks. As mentioned above, I am playing on the easy setting, so I’ll pass on the hard chair. I’m well-padded enough, but numb butt cheeks aren’t my kink. As for the towels – many thanks and I’m colour blind enough that any shade/pattern will do nicely. The Ms. DW doesn’t like scented candles (and I went through a boat load of the motherfucking things when chasing her, but that’s a different story). Cupcakes – yes please (but Ms. DW is trying to do something about the padding so perhaps just one). And to be honest, I’ve always been partial to gay, rock sharing penguins (spandex is so cliché, but ok).
Ah, you guys are fun!
Not Buttman, though, no — he should take his head out of his butt.
@Argenti Aertheri
That one’s probably right ;)
This thread got stranger while I was gone XD
lclemmens — well, I gotta say, you’re the first to take the welcome package seriously! Padded cushions are available if you want one. And of course it’s cliche, it’s a series of shit trolls have complained about!
Sorry, I can’t be funny right now, just got into a fight with my father, by which I mean I tried to say I’m watching TV, it can wait, he when on a pity the gelf tirade, I gave up and came upstairs, and just finished screaming back that I’m not coming back down leave me alone.
@Argenti Aertheri
Sorry about your fight :( Jedi hugs if you want.
Argenti – all the hugs if you want ‘em. :(
Thanks guys, you can’t magically make him learn that the adult response to “I’m watching this” is not to rant about how stupid it is and how no one ever listens to you anyways? No? Damn.
Oh, Buttman. If our delicate flower ears can’t handle trolling, how do we manage to have such stiff competition for troll of the year? Really, dude, try hard as you want, but you shall never compare to the bubble gum sculpture idol that is NWO or He Who Shall Not Be Vilely Named.
Every time feminizm rules bro! comments, I feel like he gets drunk and just randomly comes here and runs off again, woowoowooing into the night with a keg. At least Explore Nature was charmingly(?) incomprehensible.
Also, while my husband finds sex a great stress-buster, I would not personally use it for relaxation. (Though I am admittedly a bit bitter at the moment; going off testosterone has had some effects in that department that I am NOT happy with.)
It’s important to recognize that feminism is only one way to look at the situation. MRA is the other. From a feminist point of view, the MGTOWers are saying women can’t say no. But from the MRA perspective, it’s just acknowledging that women benefit from sexual choice, while men don’t.
@clifford
Sexual choice? really? what the hell do you mean? Because if women are choosing to have sex with men who are not choosing to have sex with them, that’s kind of rape. Somehow I don’t think that’s what you’re talking about though. I think it’s just ‘why won’t those bitches fuck me?’
@Clifford.
And what exactly are the statistics, assuming an equal amount straight, gay, and bi people on each gender, that make this possible?* It’s not like there are 50 men for 5 women. There are about the same amount!
*Oh, god, it’s the 80 percent of the women sleep with the 20 percent of the men thing that doesn’t actually happen, isn’t it?
Also: men can choose to have sex. This is called asking someone to have sex with them. Women can choose to have sex. This is also called asking someone to have sex with them. If either party says no, both don’t get to have it. Because it’s consensually, which means it requires choice of BOTH parties.
This is not really that hard to understand.
And here I just replied to you like you’re a adorable person. Do me a favor and continue being one?
What do you mean that men don’t “benefit from sexual choice”? Asking someone out, for sexytimes, etc, is anyone’s choice, as is saying no (or yes, or let me see what time I’m done here, etc)
Adorable? Really autocorrect! Really?!
A reasonable* reasonable!
@Argenti Aertheri
XD So that explains it. I was being confused when you said he was adorable.
Also, I missed giving Clifford a shorter response in my last comment.
@clifford: citation needed.
I’m a man, and I benefit from sexual choice. I mean, why would I NOT want to be able to CHOOSE who has sex with me?
Really, I thought this was basic common sense.
And if giving people sexual choice means they won’t have sex with me… then you’re saying the only reason I could get laid is if other people don’t have a choice about it. Gee, Clifford, you aren’t insulting me AT ALL.
And if giving people sexual choice means they won’t have sex with me… then you’re saying the only reason I could get laid is if other people don’t have a choice about it. Gee, Clifford, you aren’t insulting me AT ALL.
“I’m not saying men are filthy sexual-incompetent cesspools, I’m just saying that no one would willingly sleep with one!” /men’s rights
All I said was that there are two ways to look at this.
According to MRA, women have the ability to receive sex and emotional support at the drop of a hat, from whoever they want. The more passionate MRAs say that women don’t appreciate that and deny it.
Feminists deny that.
The thing about choice, Clifford, is you need to actually try to have sex. You will likely get turned down plenty but occasionally you will have sex. If you never try and are just angry at those sluts who won’t fuck you, you aren’t really giving anyone a choice, now are you?
So what Clifford is saying is that MRAs are OK with men being raped – after all, they have no sexual choice and no need for it! Once again, this is an example of a situation where you guys hate men far more than any feminist ever has.
Um, yes clifford, feminists deny it because it’s a blatant lie. Even if you do think that women can receive sex and emotional support either than men, you have to be living in your own bubble of isolated, ignorant privilege if you actually think every woman can get sex and emotional support from anybody she wants.
MRA would say that an acknowledgement of the situation is not the same thing as approving of the situation.
Feminists would deny the situation.
Again- two perspectives.
Clofford: I don’t know who told you that there are two sides to everything and that they’re equal, but that is patently false. Begone, boring troll bot, begone.
RE: Clifford
All I said was that there are two ways to look at this.
All I said was that your way says some pretty bad things about men.
Also, anyone who thinks ANYONE can receive sex and emotional support at the drop of a hat from anyone is full of shit. I mean, my husband is the hottest, horniest, most amazing thing on earth, and even he says, “Not now honey, I have a headache,” sometimes. Seriously dude, that hole’s deep enough. You don’t gotta keep digging.
Clifford: you give MRAs credit for more nuance than I’ve ever seen. Where are these delicately shaded souls hiding out?
According to MRA, women have the ability to receive sex and emotional support at the drop of a hat, from whoever they want.
That’s because your average MRA is almost as stupid as a troll who continues to try and “see both sides” of things that don’t have multiple sides…
RE: Clifford
Please stop saying I should be okay with taking sexual choice away from people and pretending you’re just giving another opinion.
You’re saying I SHOULD BE OKAY WITH RAPING PEOPLE. What kind of man do you think I am?
Now go read some logical fallacies and think about what you’ve done, mister.
Clifford, this whole “two perspectives” thing would work better if the mra’s weren’t blatantly wrong about almost everything.
Hmm, I don’t get to see my boyfriend until tomorrow evening. Clifford the Big Red Dog, give me some emotional support! Now!
I think Cliff got lost on his way to his job at Fox News.
Mr. HK is in the shower! Somebody support me emotionally until he gets out!
Of course it does. There are feminists and MRA. Two sides. You are denying reality.
And I have chosen a side, myself, but it doesn’t mean I can’t try to see both. This is referred to as, empathy. Something many feminists lack.
Cliffy may be too dumb for even Faux News.
@Bagelsan and Hellkell
I will give you emotional support! Jedi hugs offered!
Clifford: go google empathy, because that isn’t what it means. We know you’re an MRA (and frankly, you smell of sock), so fuck off already.
Thank you for the support, Marie.
Wow. Wow. Just…bwuh. What did I just read?
We lack empathy because we don’t ‘see the side’ of people who think female infants should have their voice boxes removed at birth? Wow. Just wow. I’m sorry bub, but they are the ones who are a hate group, and you are too full of your privilege to know or care.