How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition
Some guys get all the chicks
The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before – are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Posted on March 19, 2013, in creepy, disgusting women, drama kings, entitled babies, evil fat fatties, incel, irony alert, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA, racism and tagged misogyny, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,520 Comments.
My feeling is that any course that can produce a complete change in personality within 2 days is nasty, scary, dangerous stuff. And that’s before you even get to all the psychotic breaks it’s caused.
The Mystery-style stuff is bad enough, that’s basically just charging fools a bunch of money to teach them how to irritate and confuse as many women as possible in a single night at a club, but the Erhard stuff is dangerous, because it often leaves people genuinely unstable.
And I am both glad that I finally got a very good night’s sleep, and sad that I missed mocking Looksie.
I’m sure Looksie will be back after he’s had a nice little nap and walked over to the campus coffee shop for a pick-me-up.
@Some Gal Or deliberately mispronounce a name! I had a professor who insisted in Anglicizing all the ‘forn’ names that came up. Because it’s so hard to learn to say “valter benyameen” or “louwee altwosayr” whenever you see the names Walter Benjamin or Louis Althusser.
@CassandraSays, There used to be a small, far left group in the US that used some variant of (I think it was) EST to totally break down their recruits’ sense of self. I knew a woman who had been a member in her early 20s and a decade later she was still going to therapy to deal with the fallout.
Abnoy: In the same way that a man will never be able to really understand what it means to get pregnant and give birth, women will never be able to really understand what it means to be sexually frustrated for a man, especially a young one, simply because they don’t have the male reproductive system. Imagine the time when you were most sexually frustrated yourself, CUBE it, and then keep it constant 24/7, and then you have the sexual frustration of the AVERAGE red-blooded human male upon hitting sexual puberty.
You moron. Since you are not a woman, you don’t know that women don’t have precisely the same levels of horny/frustrated.
You
Are
Not
Special.
Suck it up, and drive on.
Looks_Low: Looks Theory is biology and observable fact.
We admire men who manage to defy science and ” date women”
Let’s look at some of that, “admiration”
Jabbathehut has one way to put all of uf to shame! He just has to lose his virginity. Prove us than mangina game is legit you fat turd.
It’s even worse than that. The guy is so Omega that he’s not even begging for pity sex he’s just looking for female approval by being the ultimate whiteknight. See how low incelness can drag you.
I just discovered this fat piece of politically correct shit. He is the ultimate mangina. This has to be fake, this is not conceivable.
because people with low standards( like you) were genetically impaired to begin with. People like you were destined to fight for scraps, that’s why you have a leftist (poor me) mind set. It’s must be nice knowing that you’ve already learned your place without much resentment.
Lot’s of “admiration”.
How about this: He’s a normalfag fatty fucker who overrates the women he gets
Yep, nothing there but support for dudes who managed to, “beat the system”.
Is a negative feedback loop from being treated badly throughout your life not a more plausible explanation for a non-positive outlook?
Than what?
Is it possible that a, different, postive feedback loop (which is actually what you are saying above; you don’t understand how negative/positive work in feedback loops) of someone being a jerk, and asshole, and getting the response that deserves, makes them even more of a jerk and asshole; as well as bitter?
Question 2. Do you deny , YES or NO, that people treat you differently depending on your Looks, Social status or wealth?
That’s a stupid question. Do you have some evidence to support your implied contention that “good looks” are the reason people are treating you badly? Not surmises and just so stories, but evidence?
Looks Low: Yeah its your fault because you arent a nice person to be around. i mean wtf? You’ re Assuming that puahaters are idiots who go around being mean to people and expect positive behaviour?
Assuming? No. Accepting.
this is how it should be .. women should know their god damn place and submit like good little girls
@ cloudiah
Was she evangelical about it, or was she already past that stage when you met her? It’s just occurring to me that if one group of PUA gurus are using EST techniques that would totally explain why they’re so obnoxiously evangelical – it’s part of the training.
@Gillian
That’s horrible. All that is going to result is his students sounding uneducated.
Fun fact: I know a professor who lost out on a tenure track position in part because she mispronounced the name of the author she was discussing every single time she said her name.
Reddit has a TV show.
Imagine if r/mensrights became a sitcom.
She was past that stage when I knew her, but was totally evangelical about it for the few years she spent with them.
I could always tell who’d just done those trainings because of how weird their speech patterns and body language were, and how unlike themselves they seemed.
@Gillian
I guess I shouldn’t say “his” as you didn’t. I assumed you had, Sorry about that.
“All that is going to result is his or her students sounding uneducated.”
An online course in remedial patronizing for trolls could make some serious money.
Better trolls plz?
@cloudiah I wish my Latin teacher had that much of a sense of humor!
Yeah, Looksie was fun and I kinda wish he didn’t go running back to his mommy. I am sure that there was more stuffing in there to keep beating on. Jeffiepoo was old, tired and stale, with the same old transparent tactics. Where can we go to get a better quality of troll?
And does anyone remember who the “And that’s real” guy was?
That est/Forum stuff is seriously creepy. It reminds me of some of the games the Scientology ‘auditors’ play…
How come all our trolls result to telling us how unhappy and unfulfilled we are…..
*resort not result
@Melody: PROJECTION
With the PUA trolls I think they also think that they can convince us that they’re right, because their guru told them that’s how women’s minds work.
“How come all our trolls result to telling us how unhappy and unfulfilled we are…..”
You’re probably doing fine Melody. It’s the transphobic ones who keep using hurtful trigger words that are probably sad on the inside.
When is David Fauxtrelle gonna stop lurking puahate for article ideas?
Where is he anyway?
FAUXtrelle where are you?
@Some Gal It was a ‘he’ actually. Depressingly, he taught at a prestigious east coast university (where I was able to roll my eyes at him on a weekly basis) though he’s since left for ‘less pretentious’ fields.
He taught a seminar with my adviser, who had just a touch of a southern accent which gave him a hell of a time with French pronunciations. My adviser got past that by giving a little mini-speech (more of a mild joke at his own expense, really) at the beginning of every semester in which he would highlight how important it was to get the names right while pointing out that it was difficult. He always used Roland Barthes to make the example, and explain that he got through it by learning to say it as “Roll On Bart!”
Class and style: doing it right by not being afraid to be a bit silly.
Ya know, Ross, generally calling out only works when you call out specific behaviors. You don’t just get to yell “YOU’RE TRANSPHOBIC”, you generally point out which behaviors are transphobic – e.g. “your insistence that only vagina-owners go in the ladies’ loos is transphobic”.
As it is, you sound like a chuckleduck with a dictionary and an internet connection.
Makes a change from the usual insult, I suppose.
See, I told you Looksy would be back. Hopefully he’s well caffeinated and ready to be chewed on.
Ya know, Ross, generally calling out only works when you call out specific behaviors. You don’t just get to yell “YOU’RE TRANSPHOBIC”, you generally point out which behaviors are transphobic – e.g. “your insistence that only vagina-owners go in the ladies’ loos is transphobic”.
Really? Nobody has been doing that with any of the accusations of misogyny directed at me. They’ve even accused me of being male without any reason!
And the award for being utterly oblivious goes to Looksie Lou!
This might get good again, which is great because I came in to cover redlines on a document the team hasn’t finished marking up. But they want me to stay till 5 anyway, so I’ve got the conference room and the projector all to myself, and Looksie seems even more oblivious on the big screen!
Yeah, David should learn to be a REALtrelle. ZING!
The “and that’s real” thing comes from here. See the 2nd tweet by Alexander, and then augochlorella runs with it.
@Gillian
My pronunciation of Chaucer has a touch of a southern accent because of the not-at-all-subtle southern accent of my HS English teacher.
I figure it adds charm.
The main reason I refuse to speak French unless I absolutely have to is that my first French teacher was a toff, and I picked up her pronunciation, so when I speak French it sounds like the Queen’s speech.
Where is that David Footgel? Is he SCARED? Cowardly David Tootwell!
“When is David Fauxtrelle gonna stop lurking puahate for article ideas?”
I was thinking that myself. PUAhate is kind of small fry. I think David Fauxtrelle has jumped the shark with that one. I need a blogger who isn’t afraid to take on the big boys.
When will David stop reading things on that public forum that’s right out there on the internet and laughing about them? Why is David so mean?
So, I’m back and all done explaining why an Excel spreadsheet is not a friggin’ database to people who really ought to know better.
You know you love the attention.
“This might get good again, which is great because I came in to cover redlines on a document the team hasn’t finished marking up”
It’s okay Gillian. You don’t need to rationalize your addiction to internet blogs.
It’s almost like David looks for examples of misogyny on the Internet and brings them here to mock them. Who would have thought he would use this blog in that way?
It’s confounding.
@cloudiah Your avatar looks awesome projected at 2′ square!
Besides, PUAhate is full of acronyms like Apocalypse Opener. It’s comedy gold.
Since setting up his blog, David Futrelle has reduced internet misogyny by 17% by all official measures. It’s time to get serious and reduce internet misogyny down to 0%.
Are you ready to take on the big boys, David?
It’s almost like examples of misogyny don’t come spewing out all over the internet every day so that it’s a struggle to pick just one, ya know?
Has anyone given Looksy a prize for that piece of incredible stupidity?
@Falconer, love that comic! :D
Or big-nosed, pointy-chinned, long-haired, love-handled Frenchmen who cook, love kittehs and cheat at Scrabble.
Protip, Looksy: the entire world could agree that you are physically beautiful. That does not mean the entire world would want to fuck you. This is because you’re a toxic little loser in the personality department. I would not touch you with the proverbial ten-foot pole, unless it was to shove you further away.
@kiki: “Apple’s not bad, but I prefer cherry.”
LOL!
Okay, gotta dash. I’ll catch up with MrLooksyal and the other chew toys later.
I love my avatar. I used to have one with a grandmotherly woman giving chin scratches to a tiger, which at least fit with the cat theme, but I think I like this one more.
What, pray tell, is Apocalypse Opener?
“Besides, PUAhate is full of acronyms like Apocalypse Opener….
Time to buy a dictionary Casandra.
Seriously, these people are hilarious.
David can’t, it’s all sublimation of his smoldering male desire to have sex with everyone, ever, which he channels instead into looking for, copying and a sort of commenting on articles freely available on public boards.
It’s all a conspiracy to make us want him by showing of his glib, guile and guts.
Oh, wait, no, no I’m sorry, that only works for the trolls that insist people can have motivations and thoughts. Instead I guess we get the looker and the relativist. Which sounds sort of like the beginning of a joke anyway. Here, let me try:
“Two men walk into a bar, and proceed to order drinks from the bartender (A large man with a nice smile). Their conversation, as they scan the dancefloor:
“Man look at all those skanks”
“Pineapple bourbon Spain monarchy flotsam”
“Yeah, man, yeah. If only we weren’t so fucking ugly, we’d be out there, dancing”
“What does that mean? How do you define dancing?”
“But instead, because we’re just too ugly, no one will pay attention. We’ve attained the powers of invisibility”
“Invicibility invisiblity invisibbury! Salsbury sour cream fish and chips!”
“You know, dude, sometimes I wonder about you. If you weren’t so damn ugly, I’m sure you’d get chicks”
“Haha, like I want chickens. Got you, you chickenist!”
“You know what I mean. We could go out there on the dancefloor and dance, talk to people, attempt to communicate and make our desires for mutually pleasing relations known, but because we’re so ugly, it’d never work out! Instead, I want another drink. Damn bartender gets all the girls anyway.”
“Who said I liked bartenders? I can’t feel my eyeballs!”
Can I go off topic to pester people to sign a petition to make Fred Rogers from Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood’s birthday a national holiday here in the US? I know he was broadcasted in Canada but not sure if he was anywhere else so have no idea if it would be something for other countries to do.
I just think, since today is his birthday and he was such a lovely person, it may be nice to remember that there are people out there who really did/do love each and every one of us.
Here is the petition:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/honor-great-american-and-great-man-fred-rogers-making-march-20th-national-holiday/gL7yL4FJ
Thanks everyone.
Apocalypse Opener seems to be a really blunt opening line which will make women want to fuck you by dazzling them with your masculine confidence or some shit like that.
Yeah, David, are you ready to take on the Big Boys?
It’s kinda creepy when they beg like that, innit?
It’s like a slapstick train wreck. I know I shouldn’t laugh but I can’t help myself.
All right, everybody go home, Fibinachi won the thread. (But first consider signing the petition princessbonbon posted.)
@cloudiah It’s the biggest, the bravest, the “ballsiest” line in all of Stinkyism. You walk up to a girl and say hi, and then you ask what she’s doing later and then…
(this, folks, this is the essence of true courage, you know?)
THEN, you ask her to come back to your place.
I KNOW, RIGHT?
I mean, what set of panties can withstand such wit, such flawless repartee?
Maybe combine Mr Rogers and Michael Jackson into a children loving national holiday?
OK, Jeffries. We have not directly referred to you as a misogynist. You are, however, tedious, a failed grammar pedant (if you haven’t noticed, you didn’t put any form of quote indicators around the last time you quoted me), a rabid JAQ-offer, someone determined to nail down the *precise* definition of misogynist by your own standards whilst claiming that PUAhate aren’t ‘real’ misogynists (never a good sign), –
– and quite frankly, you’re a snotty douche. And you’re tedious.
So why are we transphobic?
Again, dude, you’re trying much too hard. 2/10, no finesse.
Have you ever seen the movie Love Potion No. 9?
“We have not directly referred to you as a misogynist. You are, however, tedious, a failed grammar pedant (if you haven’t noticed, you didn’t put any form of quote indicators around the last time you quoted me)”
Yes, I did that on purpose because I knew it would annoy somebody, and they would get pedantic about it. Same people who got pedantic about me choosing to use normal quotes rather than block quotes.
“So why are we transphobic?”
Never said you were transphobic. It was directed at specific people. Why are you lumping yourself in with that group?
@Gillian, My panties just disappeared. Weird.
Cassandra: I’m not sure that my soles want anything other than a good cobbler.
Long slow footrub, while Cabana Boys bring you rum drinks on a warm beach?
Looks_Low: According to this site David Futrelle could get more women than a Tall facially attractive male with low bodyfat because David Futrelle has a better personality?
I mean come off it.
How do you know he doesn’t?
Seriously. What makes you the expert in Dave’s sex/love life?
I know you are full of shit because I know dudes you would say don’t have a chance in hell of getting, “hot chicks”, who are, in fact, getting more sex; with more women, than you can imagine.
Why? It’s not their looks. It’s that they don’t hate on people, esp. not the people they want to have sex with.
Damn near every hollywood male movie lead is ridiculously attractive. All these men possess the exact same facial proportions and indicators of attractiveness.
Right, Billy Crystal looks just like Harrison Ford who looks just like Sean Astin who looks just like Danny DeVito who looks just like William H. Macy, who looks just like Joe Pesci who looks just like Jackie Chan, who looks just like James Earl Jones, who looks just like Mako Iwamatsu, who looks just like James Edward Olmos, who looks just like Forest Whitaker who looks just like Morgan Freeman who looks just like Lawrence Fishburne who looks just like Andre Braugher who looks just like Takeshi Kitano who looks just like Gedde Watanabe.
Or not.
Okay ladies, which one of you would go out on a date with me.
Maybe us puahaters are wrong. How should I go about approaching women?
Here are the average stats of a male kissless, hugless, handholdless virgin:
-No friends
-In college nearly finished
-Wont go out to nightclubs( too traumatic)
-suicidal from rejection
-shy, socially anxious, weary of talking to people from constant social and romantic rejection
-Stressing about Looks
-Non male model looks.
So how should a person with these stats go about intergrating within society and finding a girlfriend amongst the wide competition of men who are better looking, richer, have more friends, more outgoing etc?
GO.
Hey, where did Looksie go? Hey Jeffiepoo, your sock is more interesting than you are. Send him back!
Can they bring me a caipirinha too? If so, sold.
Did you guys see the story blitzgal posted about 400 pages back in this thread, about the 13-year-old victim of sexual assault in CT, now being called a “hoe” online? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Brain bleach.
None of us. Given that we don’t know what you look like, you know that’s not about your looks. It’s your personality that kills libidos at 100 paces.
YOU’RE RUFOUS I WIN ALL THE ARGUMENTS FOREVER
“Hey, where did Looksie go? Hey Jeffiepoo, your sock is more interesting than you are. Send him back!”
This is the fourth time you’ve addressed me since since announcing to everybody you were done with me. You may just have an internet blog addiction.
Looksie is totally a sock for one of our previous trolls. Even down to the dating advice column.
“None of us. Given that we don’t know what you look like, you know that’s not about your looks. It’s your personality that kills libidos at 100 paces.”
Why is it acceptable to hate on another person just because they have a different personality than you’re used to? Diversity is the spice of life!