How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition
Some guys get all the chicks
The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before – are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Posted on March 19, 2013, in creepy, disgusting women, drama kings, entitled babies, evil fat fatties, incel, irony alert, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA, racism and tagged misogyny, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,520 Comments.
I think it’s hilarious how upset everyone is getting because I won’t use their blockquote code to format quotes the way their illiterate minds are used to.
If you read more books than blog comments you’d all be used to the classical method, and it wouldn’t be so distressing for you.
Yeah, the only reason I never initiate relationships is because I have a history of assuming that my person of interest is not interested in me (I should probably re-evaluate that).
Once the relationship is initiated, though, we engage in mutual initiation and stuff.
Does Looksy have any dating knowledge outside of the most patriachal and heteronormative of narratives?
Did anyone even notice that your blockquote system does not have a closing quotation mark?
Come on now, be honest.
Gillian, LOL! That makes soOo much sense!
Also, hypergamy. When will evo cultists realize that men were every bit as hypergamous as women? In western (I’m not familiar enough with other cultures to comment and let’s face it, evo psych isn’t concerned with any other culture) culture, men married the wealthiest woman they could find. The woman with property and money as her dowry and likely a nice inheritance when her parents died. Since a monied family likely had good networking connections to money making opportunities, a husband stood to profit.
Canada and the US has a longstanding history of marriages made when newblood partnerships were forged with blueblood families. The newblood got the prestige and connections, the old blood got a much needed infusion of cash.
I think that even among the less monied classes, a womans dowery and her family connections were evaluated. Of course, among the truly poor (which was always a majority) lesser significance was placed on what was owned by either side and so it was possible to marry for love or compatability if you could find a partner at all.
Don’t stick your nose so far up in the air, Rossiepoo, a bird might shit down it.
Ross: it’s OK to admit that you don’t know things. Like talking to women, being human, or blockquotes.
I can’t possibly think less of you.
I’m finding the showdown between different varieties of online sexist assholes incredibly funny. It’s like watching toddlers throw their toys at each other.
I “love” hearing all about how women have 100% of the decision making power in a relationship, having recently been involuntarily dumped by an unemployed part-time male student with a massive nose, weird shaped lips, red hair, and bad acne. Who lives with his parents.
I’m a woman! He’s a man! A skinny, short-ish, completely broke, video game playing man! Shouldn’t I be able to force him to stay with me as long as I want?
Oh, right, he’s a person, and these theories are bullshit.
Rossiekins, I’m’a gonna break this down into small words for you. The only words over two syllables are gonna be ‘misogyny’ and its variants, because that’s kinda the point here:
Trolls who use misogynistic words and ideas are, in fact, misogynists. If they were not, they would not use those tactics. Thus, they are just as legit targets for mocking as ‘serious’ misogynists. The fact that we know they are trolls does not change the fact that they are also misogynists, and thus targets for mocking. Do you get it now, you misogynistic troll?
Cassandra: it’s like High Noon, but with goobers.
Uh, part time student, not part time male.
Gunfight at the Asshole Corral.
@Hellkell
It’s ok, he just doesn’t know about medium-specific styles.
He probably whinges about speech bubbles in comics.
I like how other than acknowledging Jeffries’ presence, Looks_Law basically ignored him. And despite the fact that the posters on puahate, well, “hate” the whole PUA scene Jeffries is basically ignoring him too.
Darn, being a part-time male sounds pretty cool, actually…
blokcquote>Gunfight at the Asshole Corral.
OMG, LOL!!! Okay, now mock my spelling now!
If you’ve read more than five books* in the past three months, I’m sure Looksie will give you a hand job.
…oh, wait… Looksie IS your hand job…
*rereading your own don’t count
“Oh yeah?! Well you blockquotes don’t even have full quotation sets! So there!”
Yeah.
Darn it, Hellkell, now I’ve got Gorillaz’ Clint Eastwood in my head.
Of course the blockquote monster got me up there. Oh, well.
Sorry Falconer, it’s just that Gunfight at the Asshole Corral needed some music.
Men initiate the kiss
Men initiate a seond date
Men initiate sex
HAHAHAHAHAHA*gasp*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG will you stop it! I need to put a spit shield on my keyboard! And I need a new cup of coffee!
Well, you know, the blockquotes don’t have closing quotation marks so really you could just say that it was still a part of one of your earlier ones.
“Trolls who use misogynistic words and ideas are, in fact, misogynists. If they were not, they would not use those tactics.”
Who decided that rule?
My man and I met each other and had celebratory group sex, then found some food and had celebratory group sex, then groomed each other and had celebratory group sex, then got in an argument and solved it with celebratory group sex, then agreed on a second date. And had celebratory group sex.
Because bonobos are one of our closest relatives, right?
Who decided that rule?
The dictionary?
You are so dumb. You are really dumb, for real.
“I like how other than acknowledging Jeffries’ presence, Looks_Law basically ignored him. And despite the fact that the posters on puahate, well, “hate” the whole PUA scene Jeffries is basically ignoring him too.”
And all this time I thought Sherlock Holmes was a fictional character!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Women have asked me on dates before.
Occasionally I have said yes.
It didn’t end well, but that’s for other, confusing reasons.
Your premise, she is flawed.
Your conclusions, they are GARBAGE.
I really thought Looks’ thing about peahens and fireflies was going to be the dumbest thing I read today.
Seriously, Looksy is a trolling genius compared to this guy.
Relevant! http://xkcd.com/1178/
(xkcd is always relevant.)
“The dictionary?”
No, the dictionary doesn’t decide the emotional impact of words. Sorry to break it to you. It also doesn’t decide that anyone who uses a particular word or style of language must also share those beliefs. For then, verbal irony would be impossible.
Okay, Ross, the dictionary plus non-stupid people decided it. I just thought I’d leave that last bit out, on account of not making you ragesplode in confused indignation. (“Is she calling me stupid???”)
OMG this is totally making my day! I’ve been a bit stressed with a couple of big deadlines coming up, and being able to laugh this much is awesome!
More! Tell us more about how we’re doing punctuation totally wrong! I didn’t put quotes around your words up there, didja see?
Who was that troll, the “and that’s real” guy? We need a way to track, index and search comments by screen name so that I can go back and reread that stuff. It’s priceless!
Ross: You really are dumber than a bag of hair. Wow. It’s cute that you’re trying all, but it’s getting embarrassing. For you.
Verbal irony? LOL
Ooh, wanna know the mysterious feminine signals I used to force my boyfriend to ask me out? I name-dropped Starcraft! Then he asked my APM. It’s the nerd equivalent of steamy looks across the dance floor.
I’m trying to appreciate Ross’ point that the PUAHate stuff is ‘trolling’ and ‘non-serious.’
Pause.
Beat.
Thinking.
No, I don’t see it. In fact, it seems… dismissive. It’s as if he can’t engage with their ideas because the very idea that his toolbox doesn’t work causes his brain to explode.
There’s a disconnect there.
I guess this is what happens when you’re too sexist to pay attention to your English teachers.
Jeffries, how about we save a little time?
We don’t ascribe to the notion that the only relevant meaning of misogyny is hating women so much you want to kill them or whatever incredibly narrow definition you and other fuckwits believe absolves you and other “trolls” from the charge.
We mock misogyny. Our definition(s) are not so broad as to be useless (see your pathetic attempt to joke about a man being approached as a type of misogyny) but they are inevitably more inclusive than your own.
But, like I said, you’re a fuckwit so your opinion doesn’t really matter.
“I only say hateful things in an ironic manner. That this causes as much damage as those who say it non-ironically means nothing. My intent is FUCKING MAGIC.”
Thanks, Ross.
Off topic, but the same shit in Steubenville is now going down in Torrington, CT. This time it’s two 18 year old football players and a 13 year old girl. The town has rallied around the rapists and the girl is being harassed through social media.
http://www.registercitizen.com/articles/2013/03/20/news/doc51493e14b1a0a944806262.txt
What the fuck goes through people’s minds when they do this shit? Why the fuck would anyone identify with the rapist?!
I think the super secret lady signal I used on MR C was called “leaning in for a kiss”. Since I respect his masculine need for dignity and all, I did pause and wait for him to meet me halfway.
I actually asked a bag of hair about misogyny once, and its answer was more coherent than Ross’. True story.
Oh, look! He thinks we can’t tell the difference between sincerity and irony! He thinks that Teh Ebil Feminizm! makes it impossible to discern meaning from context, bless his heart!
“More! Tell us more about how we’re doing punctuation totally wrong! I didn’t put quotes around your words up there, didja see?”
That’s fine. I don’t care. It was just hilarious seeing how people got so butthurt over the fact I wasn’t using their blockquote system they felt it was important enough to point out. LOL.
In at least some cases I’m not sure you’re going to like the rather obvious answer to that question.
“Oh, look! He thinks we can’t tell the difference between sincerity and irony! ”
David can’t, LOL. Keep fighting the good fight though.
@blitzgal: Thanks, now you owe me a bottle of brain bleach. :/
You realize that the whole point of the blockquotes is not, strictly, an adherence to the rules of grammar but the ability to organize thoughts and clearly illustrate the difference between your own writing, and the comment you’re quoting, right?
Right? Please tell me you understand this?
In other news, I find it kind of adorable the way you type “lol” like a teenager. Truly.
Rossiekins: To troll a feminist site using misogynistic language is, in fact, misogynistic. If they weren’t misogynistic fuckwits, they wouldn’t be trolling a feminist site in the first place. In the unlikely event that you do not, in fact, understand why this is, I recommend the Jackson Professional Tools 18 lb crowbar. An associate with sufficient leverage should be able to use it to pry your head from where it currently lodged.
Also, you lying little twit, I can’t help but notice that you’ve failed to identify people from this blog who are trolling the PUAHate site. Thanks for the tacit admission that you are incapable of honesty.
You don’t actually understand what “irony” is, do you?
Rossy, the thing isn’t that we’re getting saddlesore over you not using the blockquotes.
It’s that this community has had many an errant troll amble their way through here, leaving trails of varying degrees of bizarro, hateful, incoherant shit, and I have seen a vast quantity. I do not recall seeing a single troll use blockquotes, even those who have wordpress blogs themselves and are likely to have knowledge of such things.
‘Tis an interesting observation, nothing more.
Definitely a portion of people identify with the rapist because they themselves are rapists, but most people are not rapists, and some of those non-rapists are identifying with the rapist. It boggles my mind. Rape culture, we’re soaking in it.
@Bagelson: Done! Kitties adorably falling, in gif format (no kitties are harmed).
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daniheckman/22-major-cat-fails-7w57
Aw, Jeffiepoo, you’re letting us down. Those last two are weak. You can do better than that.
For someone who wants to take others to task for not picking up on nuance and context, you seem remarkably obtuse about the difference between people being actually vexed and people winding you up.
You faceplanted, dude. Go ahead and try to deflect to David, but it was all you.
That’s fine. I don’t care.
Geez. Whatever. Gawd, Mom! *sulks in room, hates women*
You’ve been out-trolled by an angry kid with a sticky capslock key. That’s just sad.
In other news, it’s spring though this guy doesn’t seem to be feeling it
Ah, clumsy kitties! My brain feels all better now. ^^
“To troll a feminist site using misogynistic language is, in fact, misogynistic.”
You’re mistaking opinion with fact again. Whether anything outside of empirically proven scientific truths can be a fact is also a matter of opinion. Words like “feminist”, “misogynist” are subjective and both can be openly used as pejoratives, depending on somebody’s point of view.
There are multiple factors to consider. Who defines what makes a site feminist? Can that be factually proven, or is it just a matter of opinion? Different people have different points of view. Who are you to define their point of view for them? Who are you to define the points of view of all feminists, or all trolls, or all misogynists? How are you to know the true beliefs and motivations of misogynists, feminists or trolls?
Please give detailed responses.
Jeffiepoo, oh where are you?!?! It’s just our teeny tiny little pond, but you couldn’t handle it, huh?
Too obvious, dude. Subtlety is needed for truly effective trolling.
Please kiss my ass, lackwit.
No. :)
Which module is this for, and what percentage of my overall grade?
“Please kiss my ass, lackwit.”
I love you even if you are full of hate.
You keep using those words, but they do not mean what you would like them to mean. Go get an actual dictionary, instead of listening to the voices in your head.
LOL!
Nice try with the irrelevant relativism, though.
Folks, I think I see what the problem is here. See, Looks lives in a nightclub and therefore can’t understand that there are plenty of people (ugly* people even!) who meet and date and fuck and sometimes pair up for long periods of time all without trying to pick someone up at a nightclub.
*and yes, attractiveness is subjective. Half the dudes you listed as someone I supposedly long register at about a “meh” for me and the other half actually are not good looking to my eyes at all. But clearly I’m either a lying hypergamous bitch or an anomaly (or both!) because SCIENCE. Does anyone else get the feeling that perhaps Looks is in High School where science is “Science” because it’s the name of a class?
*long FOR. That’s meant to be “Half the dudes you listed as someone I supposedly long for” Blah. I think there’s a word-thieving monster afoot too.