How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition
Some guys get all the chicks
The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before – are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Posted on March 19, 2013, in creepy, disgusting women, drama kings, entitled babies, evil fat fatties, incel, irony alert, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA, racism and tagged misogyny, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,520 Comments.
that’s what I did too :) I actually have a long list of links on white privilege, partly for me (still haven’t read them all) and partly if I need to send them to anyone. But…if any trolls come on with that shpeil, I have links! :D /randomish.
“I think that comment was a dig at feminists and you thinking they blamed men for everything… but you also blamed society for men not being able to wear make up… so one would think you’d be able to understand feminists blaming society and the patriarchy for lots of the problems it addresses… It’s not blaming you, dude.”
It could be seen that way, the comment it was a response to was rather sarcastic in the first place though, so I’d say it was hardly uncalled for.
Its when terms like male privilege imply that all males have things easier. In my view anyone who doesn’t conform or wish to be their stereotype in society has it hard. Males who aren’t big, strong, competent and confident are hardly in a privileged position.
“the negative effects of patriarchy are not misandry.
the negative effects of patriarchy are not misandry.
the negative effects of patriarchy are not misandry.
Also, go back up to Argenti Aertheri’s post. She explained well to you. I don’t know where teh suicide thing comes from, but men go to prison more often because women are seen as weak and helpless. Even though it affects men negatively it women too, and like I said, the patriarchy does have negative effects on men, just not as many.”
I need to go back and find the post as I don’t think I read it properly :/
I don’t think, no, I know you didn’t read any of the helpful information you were given. You should go away and read it.
Shiraz: good choice!
@ItsAllAbout Prison, yes. And there are people here who know those statistics better than I do, maybe one of them will engage on that point.
But suicide, no. Men make up about three quarters of the completed suicides (primarily because of the fact that more men tend to choose firearms as their suicide method), however women attempt suicide at about twice the frequency of men, and there’s a sense by researchers who study the issue that those attempts are actually significantly underreported due to the stigma attached to suicide and the relative ease with which an attempted suicide can be ‘misdiagnosed’ by a compliant doctor seeking to spare the feelings of family members. It’s also relatively more difficult to argue that a self inflicted gunshot was an accident, while an overdose of pain or sleep medication, or a home accident can be more easily recast as an attempt at self harm.
Women are also much more likely to experience depression and anxiety that can predispose people to suicide, to the tune of three or four to one.
The WHO tracks a lot of that information worldwide, while the National Institutes of Mental Health and the American Federation for Suicide Prevention publish data on a regular basis tracking such issues.
That said, when we are talking about something so tragic, it’s hard to argue that anyone has it “better” than anyone else, and such thinking actually moves us further away from a meaningful discussion.
…
*ahem*
*attempts to untangle oneself from the ridiculousness of that statement.*
A) It does not matter what your opinion is. It matters what your opinion is if you’re trying to convince me that Darth Bane isn’t a Gary Stu* The trials of women due to sexism is NOT AN OPINION ISSUE.
B)Yes, men who do not conform to society have it hard. You wanna know who else who have it hard when they don’t conform to society? WOMEN. And they have to deal with sexism ONTOP of non conformity stuff.
*I mean, you’d still be wrong, but it’s technically an opinion matter. :P
Also
You are wrong.
“I don’t know where teh suicide thing comes from, but men go to prison more often because women are seen as weak and helpless.”
You seem really sure about this. Got a citation to back it up?
male privilege doesn’t mean all men have easy lives, though I guess it does mean the last part of that, that men have less shit to deal with than women in terms of patriarchy. It doesn’t mean that because you’re a man you’re always going to get paid more than a woman, it’s just an average. It doesn’t mean that men don’t get objectified, just less often. It doesn’t mean that sex roles aren’t unfair to men, just that they are more unfair to women.
@ Jones
Wow. I’m sorry that happened to you. I hope things are okay for you now.
Oooh, one of the sulk artists has a username ‘it’s all about personality jk lollollol’!! I bet his is just the most winning of personalities. No neediness or entitlement there! Let’s clear this up for you, mr shining personality- it’s all about attraction. Some people have attractive personalities. Other people have attractive abs. More often people have some attractive qualities and some unattractive qualities. And people value those qualities differently. But if you don’t have qualities that people find attractive (or more often the people you are attracted to don’t reciprocate because why should you have sex with a girl you aren’t attracted to amIright) you don’t have sex. This is not a crime against humanity. People have lived long and happy lives without sex. You may be one of those people.
In the game Singularity, you travel to an abandoned Russian island (Kartago-12), and accidentally continue to mess up the space-time continuum, throwing everything into flux. Bits of history repeats itself, you get shunted between 2010 and 1955 erratically, and time itself seems to be breaking apart from its normally linear fashion of increasing entropy.
Spoiler alert, ending.
At the very end, you attempt to go back to the beginning of the game to prevent yourself from causing this entire mess in the first place (Hoping that the paradox thus induced will prevent the world from ending). So you see yourself rescuing a man from a burning building, and take the shot at yourself, that you remember from the prologue someone took at you… and the loop repeats itself. And so you’re stuck.
Reading this thread is sort of like that. It’s groundhog day all over again.
“You feminists know nothing”
“Look, here’s what we know”
“You feminist know nothing!”
“Look, here’s what we know, come on, read it”
“You feminists know nothing!”
“Look, here’s what we… argh!”
“You feminists know nothing”
“Renko! You have to stop yourself from rescuing Demichev, or we’ll never escape the time loop!”
“You feminists know nothing!”
… infinity.
Shiraz: I bet his citation is something like: Assfax, Itsallboutme Publications, 2013.
@jones
Sorry to hear that :( internet hugs if you want them, that sounds horrible.
@gillian
Yeah, I feel strange talking about it. I mean, it’s a bad thing whoever it’s happening to, if/when I use it in arguments I feel…idk kind of sleezy.
@shiraz
you’re right, I don’t have a citation :/ Sorry. I think my brain ended up confusing effects of patriarchy with causes and it all got jarbled up. Don’t know if those go together ;)
Ok, the pain meds seem to be kicking in, because the fact that “Park” and “Clark” up there rhymed suddenly struck me as the funniest thing I’d seen all day…
“Males who aren’t big, strong, competent and confident are hardly in a privileged position.” Well there is a guy who failed to either research or comprehend the meaning of male privilege. You might not feel as privileged as your male counterparts but you still enjoy privilege for being a male. Ugh, off to feminism 101 with you.
Wow, that’s really fucked up. I’m sorry to hear that, and I hope you’re safe now.
Easier does not mean easy. Life’s hard. Some people get the short end of the stick because that’s just how the dice roll. I read a great article once on how being a white, able-bodied cis-gendered straight male was essentially like playing a game on ‘easy’. It’s still possible to lose, but it’s hella easier than playing as, say, a black, disabled trans* lesbian. Wish I still had the link.
Thing is, having privilege isn’t inherently a bad thing. It’s just… a thing. A thing you have to realize you have, so you don’t make an ass out of yourself when talking to people who don’t have that privilege. I, personally have white privilege. And sometimes, I fuck up and say stupid, privilege blind things and get called out on it. That’s when I shut up and learn.
You need to shut up and learn.
And it just keeps getting better and better!
(Which works both as a statement about that phrase as a work of art, and as a statement about the endless roll of WTF that’s come this way today…)
Article was John Scalzi, sci fri writer:
“http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/”
It’s an interesting read.
@Fibinachi
Thank you. Going to actually bookmark it this time.
Take a shower, post explodes again, typical.
Marie — gender neutral pronouns for me please — ze/zir (no worries, I only get pissed about this when it’s either clearly intentional, or then leads to stupid assumptions based on the gender assigned to me…trolls in other words)
pillow in hell — “native Canadian”…tell me you don’t mean First Nations people? Because fuck do they face honest to goodness racism
“that guy in the gym a while back… ugh, I don’t really want to remember it, but does anyone know what I’m talking about?”
Google Pittsburgh LA fitness shooting, I don’t remember his name, and am on mobile and it’s cranky, but I was living in the area at the time.
I think that’s likely, hellkell. ;)
Gillian, your killing me! I hope you feel better, though.
Jones, my sympathies.
I believe this is it. And it is a wonderful article. I’ve shown it to a few of my guy friends to try to get my point across.
And ninja’d.
Jones, get your story out there- if nothing else all this goddamn misogyny driven cyber stalking needs to be publicized.
@Argenti
Is this what you are thinking of:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/05/pennsylvania.gym.shooting/index.html
Hello, I finally got wordpress to work on my phone as my computer isn’t working
. I haven’t read the whole thread yet, but in the topic of bananas, my favorite banana dish is one ingredient ice cream …
@argenti aertheri
So sorry :( You actually have told me gender neutral pronouns before, so it was double my fault. (once for using them, twice for having forgotten)
blah. I’m rambly today. Anyhows sorry, you shouldn’t have to remind me all the time.
Ok, caught up!
The guy on the gym is this — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting
“Its when terms like male privilege imply that all males have things easier. In my view anyone who doesn’t conform or wish to be their stereotype in society has it hard. Males who aren’t big, strong, competent and confident are hardly in a privileged position.”
The comment Marie referenced was towards the top of the last page, and discussed that. After Virgil x2 and Jaro I’m feeling generous on the 101 level stuff, take the answers offered to your implied questions.
Argenti have you read the journal?
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/08/05/sodini.pdf
Yes. Yes they are. Even the smallest, weakest, most incompetent and insecure male still benefits from male privilege.
There’s plenty of reading out there for you to find, and it’s really really not in any way difficult to locate. You earn a justified side eye from feminists on sites like this when you come and make statements like the above which demonstrate unambiguously that you’ve not educated yourself on the issue first.
http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/11/faq-what-is-male-privilege/
Oh, trigger warning on the above link!
No problem Marie, like I said, it really only bothers me if it’s obviously intentional or trolling!
Melody — I was quoting Fade, but yes, that’s the one.
Jones — fucking fuck, I’m sorry.
@Jones No one deserves that shit and I’m sorry you had to experience it. My sympathies
@Argenti Aertheri
Thank you for looking up that.
*tries to remember why I referenced it*
oh, yeas. My point was… (about the male-privilege doubting troll) male privilege also creates male ENTITLEMENT.
And that case was a fine example of that. I have seen lots of examples of crimes of guys commiting against girls because they believe they are owed something by all girls… but I have never seen a girl commit a crime against guys because she thinks she is owed something by all guys.
Because guys generally are socialized to think that they deserve a chance (in terms of dating, gah, you know that “He’s a nice guy, give him a chance”/”women won’t give me a chance when I approach them and call me creep*) thing. Even in mainstream (Aka, non MRA stuff) comments, I have seen guys whinging on about how girls have unreasonably high standards and are looking for Mr Perfect, yet they also take for granted that they want an unreasonably attractive women to date them/ one who compromises in ways they wouldn’t**
*I always hated MRAs saying creep is a shaming word, because for me, creep is a word people who aren’t very articulate about their boundaries can use to express their boundaries. Like… it’s something I’d have used before I got into feminism to express when guys are bugging me and I can’t exactly identify why… in ways that I now can recognize are boundary crossing.
**Diogenes the WHY DON”T LADIES ALL SHAVE DOWN THERE cynic. Also, all those guys who say “if a girl keeps her last name in marriage, we know who wears the pants in a relationship” when it’s just PERFECT EQUALITY.
… This was kind of stream of consciousness. But I hope I was semi-coherent.
It’s like a video game – having privilige puts you on an easier setting. Even ‘easy’ setting poses a small challenge, just not as much as ‘normal’, ‘hard’, ‘sweet taste of death’, or ‘why do you hate yourself’ mode would do.
oops, also thank you Melody, whose link I didn’t notice. :P
Totally OT question: anyone here with physical problems do tai chi?
Yes, I’ve been mistaken as First Nations, when I’m not mistaken as Italian. Its understandable really, my great grandmother is *supposedly* First Nation and when I live near areas with a high concentration of First Nations people that tiny bit of genetic heritage seems to get recognized. I’ll take a few tasteless wop jokes over the treatment I get from other white people who live near reservations any day.
I say supposedly, because no one in my family knows which band or even nation my great grandmother came from. It could be because of government policies of stripping native women of their heritage and forcing children into schools that horribly abused them. Or, more likely, “native” heritage is code for our family needs to feel we have every right to be here, or its also code for “someone married a black person and that needs to be hidden”. I don’t know, and never will short of a genetic test. Her history, hell her entire life is lost to the family because hey, she was just a woman living in a very abusive and misogenistic family. I don’t think anyone even knows her name.
This is the rule of thumb I go by: unzip your pants and look at your ass. Is it lilly white? Then don’t claim to be First Nation. Especially if what you know of the culture can fit into a thimble and leave plenty of room to spare.
@kittehs
I don’t do it but am curious and nosy *is curious and nosy*
I’ve gotten recommendations from doctors to do something low stress like yoga, but I don’t want to do that and am nosy nosy nosy if you do not mind plz tell me more :D
/sorry for all the needy-ness.
I did, for a bit.
Nothing severe though, just recovery after broken bones (And not important, significantly weight bearing and crippling ones). Worked well for that minor issue though, and it was fun. But it was follow up from 8 years of various martial arts, so your mileage may vary significantly. I would recommend it, however. Very gentle and easy.
@augochlorella Thanks for that link, it’s going on my send to everyone I know list, because it’s brilliant. The opening is a really elegant statement of the issue, in a way that I’d observed happening before but never put it so succinctly and clearly.
So, of course, I hate him. But in a good way!
Especially the part about what I am going to refer to as the ‘avoidance fiddle’ from now on!
Ooh! I do not do Tai Chi* I have been thinking about asking my karate instructor if he’d think it’d be a good match for me, though.
*I do karate, but I cannot do it very often due to … physical problems. :P
Um, so sorry if this wasn’t help, but it has been something I’ve considered doing.
@kittehs
that last comment I made may have come across really wrong…so um, basically if you’d like to share your experience with tai-chi and pain I’d be all ears :D
I love yoga. It saved my life.
@Fade.
So True, this:
“Because guys generally are socialized to think that they deserve a chance (in terms of dating, gah, you know that “He’s a nice guy, give him a chance”/”women won’t give me a chance when I approach them and call me creep*) thing. Even in mainstream (Aka, non MRA stuff) comments, I have seen guys whinging on about how girls have unreasonably high standards and are looking for Mr Perfect, yet they also take for granted that they want an unreasonably attractive women to date them/ one who compromises in ways they wouldn’t**”
Thanks everyone who’s answered so far!
My psych suggested I do yoga for stress relief the other day. Now I’m not wild about yoga. First, I simply can’t get to classes: I have eleven-hour days as it is and there’s simply nothing near home for the weekends (plus sacrificing chunks of weekend is not attractive). So, it’d be at home with a dvd, and that says Potential To Hurt Self to me. Second, it’s just not an exercise that appeals, partly because breathing exercises do me more harm than good: they end up triggering air hunger or asthma.
I was asking my osteopath about it last night and she mentioned tai chi. Now I’d thought about it ages ago and never pursued it, but I’m reminded that it’s used a lot by people with arthritis, or who are generally not fit, or older people, or people with fibromyalgia (that made me prick up my ears after the recent conversations here). I’m looking for something relaxing and gentle that’s not going to fuck my knee (for which I have to get an MRI done). I also think tai chi has less potential for damage, and being done standing up is more appealing than something I have to do lying down (stuffed if I’m buying an exercise mat, I’ve more than enough junk in my house).
@shiraz
yeah, sorry if that made it sound like I thought yoga was really bad, I just have a thing against it cuz all the doctors keep suggesting it as something I should do when I don’t want to so… yeah, I just don’t like how everyone’s trying to force me into it.
Marie, no, it didn’t come across all wrong at all! I’m perfectly happy to answer questions and I thought it was funny – bonus. :)
Melody, just finished it and fuck, I never realized where he worked…I was working for a law firm the next lock over, the other end of the triangle but fuck, too close for comfort…
I will confirm his much of his manifesto — law firm jobs in Pittsburgh are incredibly isolating, too damned tired to do anything besides work, eat, sleep, rinse and repeat. And I was in reception, I had normal enough hours.
@kittehs
well thanks for the info :) Sorry that your knee is bad though :( Hope it feels better soon.
Be warned for complete ignorance about tai chi coming up, this is based only on my knowledge of karate.
But some martial arts katas* do use lots of breathing exercises. Don’t really take this to mean much, since aforementioned ignorance on tai chi, it’s just something to ask about if you go in to talk to someone.
@kittehs
*whew* *sighs in relief* I know I keep mentioning this, but combined with lack of sleep and this thread going so fast I feel like my comments are coming across all weird. I’m not proofreading as much as I normally do, or thinking as much before posting :/ I normally at least read my comment through once because I tend to have really sharp mood swings, where I’m giddy and hyper one moment and meh and sad the next, so my comment-mood may change a lot between them. Anyway, just makes me more worry that I come off really boundry-not-know-y, or weird.
Thanks, Marie! I’m just hoping it doesn’t turn out to be something structural, because that could mean surgery. Mind you, if it isn’t, I’ve no idea what’s going on or why it isn’t responding to treatment.
I’ll say this much – when the whole back and legs are sore to the point my jaws are involuntarily clenched*, it does take my mind off general anxiety issues! :P
*omg does this make me INCLENCH?
Tai Chi should not offer you too many options to hurt yourself, if you practice the simple movements (No advanced jump diving backsplits). Pick a soft style and a slow cadence and it’s very, very gentle and easy. Problem though: It also tends to be a combination of breathing and movement, so if you’re not too into breath exercises you might not get as much out of it as you’re hoping (if you’re hoping).
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As an aside, there’s not too much difference between yoga and tai chi. I mean, sure, there is – obviously – but it boils down to specific movement patterns at the end. You can find yoga that you can do standing, with a few simple movements. Even stuff that doesn’t stress your knees too much if you look for it. I wouldn’t know *Where* though, sorry. My health is almost stupidly good, so I am very wary about saying “Hey! Do this! It’s easy”, since, well, it probably isn’t. Hey isn’t that privilege coming back to haunt us…
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You might want to look into Qi Gong as well? I had a routine I did every morning for a few months as a test, and it was very easy and simple and offered no direct strain of any muscles. Just sort of a wake-up thing. I think it was based on either Five Elements or Five Animals (One of those motiffs).
Fade – yeah, I asked my osteo about the breathing last night, and she said tai chi does a bit of breathing stuff, but isn’t really focussed on it. It’s more about flow of movement.
On a sore-leg fashion note, I got a gorgeous floral walking stick yesterday. :)
@fibinachi
What’s Qi Gong? Never heard of it before.
@kittehs
well, good wishes from over here :)
Relatively related, but I just went to the doctor (yesterday) and the good news is I don’t have fibromialgia (sp?) or early arthritis, they just don’t know what it is.
No Tai Chi for me, but I have done some yoga. When I lived in LA, you either did yoga or pilates. Iyengar was really big at the time (more equipment, including straps and blocks, in addition to the basic mat) but Bikram was popular as well. Now I see Bikram everywhere.
I eventually got into Hatha, which has been, in my experience, the most gentle form, most focused on being at the place where you are rather than pushing and pulling and twisting and turning or, alternatively, sweating your ass off in a badly ventilated room full of strangers. Hatha also has less of a focus on the religious/mystic aspects of the practice and tends to focus more on just developing a calm mindset. It’s useful for finding a place of stillness, especially when you’re under a lot of stress.
I’m actually hoping to get back into it soon, just as soon as I clear two really big chunks off my plate. I could use some calm right now…
Pillow in hell — ok, because my immediate response was “oh fuck I didn’t just read that, First Nation people do get actually dangerous racism” and then saw it was you and went all “huh?!” — makes sense now!
FTR, I also have a supposedly Native great grandmother, I’m inclined to believe it, as somewhere around here there’s a photo of a Native woman holding her chopped off braid, but I have no actual proof I’m related to her. Point her is I have no real clue what tribe either, but get the impression it was deliberately um, white washed (literally I guess). But since I look way more Italian, and am for that matter, I know when to STFU!
Semi-related and why I’m babbling, you twitter? If so, check out #OpThunderbird for some awesome First Nation women doing so awesome work regarding the intersection of racism and misogyny. Utter respect for those ladies!
“(No advanced jump diving backsplits)”
LOL not even at my fittest would that have been happening! I’ll leave the athletics to the Mister.
@kittehs
That sounds pretty :)
I should probably check out tai-chi then :D Only bad thing is the karate dojo I go to I can kind of go w/o paying (my dad works there and me and my sister can go for free) so I’m not sure where I’d conjur the money for tai-chi classes. But I’ll have to at least talk to someone about it :)
@Kittehs.
Ah, that’s actually mildly comforting, considering the breathing katas in the system of karate I practice freaking hurt for reasons I am not sure of* and some gentler breathing would be nice.
The only problem is if I start Tai Chi, I’ll have to pay for my martial arts**
*aka probably fibromyalgia
**Right now, my dad teaches some classes and our family gets in free :D
lol, ninja’d by my own sister.
actually, now that I read that again, it sounds really, really painful. And my legs work fine, it’s just my back that sucks.
Tai chi, I’ve tried it. The one I tried used visualizations in addition to the forms. I don’t have breathing problems so using the breathing patterns didn’t bother me. I do have a foot with several poorly healed microfractures and I had no problems with doing the excercises beyond my general poor coordination and a strong tendency to do thIngs left handed. You get as much or as little excercise as you want just by slight variations in speed and posture, I found. Also, there are different types of Tai Chi, designed to help with different things.
I wanted to meditate, but can’t sit still or focus on emptying my brain the way most meditations work. I like the flexibility of yoga, but the forms throw me off and I end up strangely upset afterwards.
Wait, am I fully stoned now? Are Marie and Fade sisters?
Qigong? Fancy word for breath and movement practices. Uh, sorry. “Ancient Chinese Practice of health and vitality accumulating exercises, in relation to expanding human potential, as one focuses and channels energy from self and the world.”
Something like this:
I liked it. Although you should strip away anything with the phrase “Energy” in it. Energy energy energy.
@Argenti
My father is hispanic, but looking at me you would never guess. When people know they then tell me that it shows in my hair, but if they didn’t know they would never think that.
Ack! And if you don’t want to say, whether you are or not, just change the topic to bubbles!
… Sorry, thought that would just link, not implement. Mea culpa.
Gillian — in a word, yes.
Marie, that’s great news about it NOT being fibromyalgia or arthritis!
Fibinachi – I know zip about Qi Gong, bar the name. I’ll do a bit of reading.
Gillian – yeah, the religious basis of yoga’s one of the things that puts me off about it, I have to admit.