How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition
Some guys get all the chicks
The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before – are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Posted on March 19, 2013, in creepy, disgusting women, drama kings, entitled babies, evil fat fatties, incel, irony alert, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA, racism and tagged misogyny, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,520 Comments.
Plus, there’s nothing like being called a bitch for refusing somebody’s offer of sex. That is the absolute icing on the cake of any given day.
Definitely the cherry on the shit sundae. Love it!
I always used to go out after getting my hair did. My old hairdresser was genius, RIP.
Well. Okay. Not sure why it blockquoted EVERYTHING. Guess the blockquote monster is just pissed that I hadn’t made an offering before?
@looks law.
I see your adding ableist asshat to your list of currently off putting personality flaws. WHY ARE THEY LADIES NOT FALLING OVER THIS
ATTRACTIVE YOUNG MANANNOYING ASSHAT?yeah, the guy just accidentally asked her. It takes two to tango.
OOOH! OOH YEAH BABY, AVOIDING THAT QUESTION! SO SEXY!
humans are not peacocks.
lesson learned: fireflies are weird.
The real question is, is the winner symmetrical?
*sigh* looks law, I’m going to explain this to you. The kiss happens when SHE wants it to and when YOU want it to. Okay, it’s like, mutual. You both decide to kiss.
*sighs again* you CHOSE to walk up to her and she CHOOSES where to say yes or not. YOU BOTH ARE CHOOSING!!!!ELEVEN! SCIENCE!
my point was that humans are like animals in one way, but not other ways that contradict my theory, because I chose the one that fit my example and LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU.
@ross
um and they still can be mocked for it. Like seriously?
@looksie
man, humans. Fireflies. What’s the difference?
@rossie.
scroll up, bub, it’s a site to mock misogyny. No one cares whether it’s a ‘joke’ or not.
@looks law
citation or it didn’t happen.
Also you should write for cosmo.
because you’re an annoying misogynist.
@pencuncium
I CAN BRING THE GUINEA PIGS! *SQUEES*
/sowwyz.
@ross
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like how?
@blitzgal
yeah, looks law is much more entertaining. My first science troll :P
@elodieunderglass
And now that I know, I too am annoyed >:(
@gillian
Why are you so perfect? :D
@ross
Wait they were I never knew. Here I thought blockquotes were just used to make it more clear who’s talking or not but apparently I just couldn’t see the quote marks on the keyboard.
….why do I care about the ‘classical method’? Are you a doctor, by any chance?*
*for some reason this line reminded me of pell :P
*facepalm*
@nobianyuma
Strange, since he was whining about classic english :P
@ross
well, I would assume so, with the MRA. And the republicans*…
*US ones at least :P
If someone’s misgendered you, you can say so.
And, I think this comment is too long, so posting… sorry. And I still haven’t caught up. this is a long thread.
@Argenti
That was my point :-) Also he’s apparently monogamous from my quick readings, though exhibitionist
There’s a lot weird race stuff on puahate.
I noticed that. Like the guy quoted in the OP who carefully lists the race of every person he sees and caps it off with, “She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao.” Wait, why is he laughing his ass off? Is Indian better than white? Is it worse? If you’re an Indian girl, what color dude are you supposed to be dating? It’s like this whole new complicated level of racism where you need a manual just to figure out who to hate.
I find most of the actors listed by Looks attractive, but I appreciate male beauty in many forms. Also, my husband doesn’t look like any of those guys. He looks like Italian George Harrison.
Hah, Pecunium, just because you’re a martyr of a mangina white knight who apparently sold out to become the lapdog of the matriarchy doesnt mean the rest of us have to do too.
Dammit Falconer, I’m going to start invoicing you for coffee at this rate!
I’m just going to leave this here. Excuse me while I figure out how to get there at the right time.
Wow, I’m late to this thread… this is the first time I’ve ever looked at PUAHate and I suggest you all look at the Rejection Thread- seriously, this is something else.
http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=63668
Here’s what FeminismEqualsFail has to say on the matter:
Alright, maybe that could seen a bit harsh, even if you have a creepy smile, or the woman is afraid to smile back for fear that it could be seen as a come-on, or because being a woman doesn’t automatically lumber her with the “duty” to be friendly and act the coquette with you, or because she’s had a shitty day, or any other reason which is none of your business… so how about a more moderate reaction?
I don’t know about you, but when I meet most people for the first time they get a “lukewarm” reaction- when I know nothing about a person I find it hard to overreact and start humping their leg. Maybe I’m being too British here, but showing someone what I think about them sexually when we’ve only just met seems plain rude.
…so how about a more enthusiastic response? Maybe not a curtsey or grovelling at their feet, but a smile can’t hurt, right?
Sorry girls, it looks like we can’t win here… and when men have standards this high, why should we even bother, eh? And why have they not considered the idea that living up to their standards may be too exhausting to be worth bothering with when there are plenty of nice guys out there who aren’t Nice Guys™?
That’s not the worst of it… check this out, from a guy who considers some immature teenagers laughing at him “rejection”:
This from a guy who chose the username “Brian Peppers”… seriously “Brian”, it’s not us, it’s you. Ewwww.
I need to go to bed, you people have to stop writing!
can’t – stop – reading….
Also, hi.
@starskita – It is totally true that men win mates by displaying their splendid tails, because SCIENCE!
@Looks_Law
Reality is more complicated than that, buddy. Some are chosen, some are not.
Cheekbone-having? Um, most people have cheekbones. You can tell on account of how it’s part of the basic structure of a face. Mandibles otoh…
Oh God, that “Brian” character is disgusting. Dude – fourteen year old girls are obnoxious. especially in groups. It’s a fact. So are fourteen year old boys. They are not “provoking assault” – THEY ARE SHOWING OFF TO THEIR FRIENDS LIKE THE IMMATURE CHILDREN THEY ARE.
Fuck this noise, I’m turning in my human card and going back to Arcadia.
Wow, what a horrible piece of shit. And they wonder why we call people like him misogynistic…
Kitteh, you owe me one cup of tea for that!
Technically we have mandibles: we tend to call it a jaw.
I have cheekbones… I keep them in a jar, as trophies of my victories in battle.
(that’s hot, right?)
Monogamous afaik, didn’t know he was an exhibitionist. Then again, I’ve seen the kiss so yeah.
So, anyway – feel better now that you had your little tantrum and got lots of attention, whiny manchild? Is the troll-o-meter all charged up? I guess we’ll be seeing you again in a few months, then.
This kiss
Looks: 23 years. Didn’t date at all until six months shy of 23. We’ve been married twelve years come May. And he’s lovely, but not leading man material – among other things, Hollywood seems to have a problem with gigantic surgery scars. All the more for me, I suppose.
Looking at other threads I’ve noticed there are rather a lot on the subject of male-pattern baldness. Have they all forgotten about this guy?
Yep, that’s the original PUA. Who gets loads. And is bald.
I see looks law has activated his telepathy again…
@bagelsan
nope. I mean, I feel a little bad about it, but I’m depressed (though not suicidal) so I don’t give two fucks. Didn’t turn me into a jerk. Also super pissed because it seemed like he was trying to say people are depressed because they can’t get dates…like wah?
Also extra pissed at ross, because he cares (supposedly) that looks law is suicidal, but clearly doesn’t care if any of the regulars are. Probably Ross is just using it for his trolling though.
eagerly signs up :D
@looks jackass
because women get the way worse stick than men in terms how they should look for movies. But I don’t think you actually wanted an answer.
please go squeeze a cactus.
@bagelsan
not just you. normally when I meet someone who’s attractive I have a temporary ‘oh, xie’s cute’ thought, but I need to actually know people for it to be more than a passing thought. If that makes sense :/
@Nobinayamu
You aren’t alone in your character crushes :D I think half the reason I like Maria Canal’s voice so much is cuz she voiced Hawkgirl in the Justice League…. (I have a huge crush on Hawkgirl /embarrassed).
@trollboy
18 years XD
@looks law
yeah, there’s nothing wrong with having a ‘slutty past’. Also, I think you should step on legos for thinking that not being judged for how much sex you have is a privilege. It shouldn’t have had to have been fought for.
forgodsake, female privilege is not a thing. at least give me a citation. sheesh.
oh god go fuck yourself. I’m getting tired of your whining about how hard it is to be a man. If you want pleasure, use your damn hand, if you want a date or friends, try not to be a toxic asshole. god, go swallow a lego.
like what does that even mean?
HHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
AHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
No.
you have no idea how relieved I am to hear this.
Owowoowowowow facepalmed so hard it hurt.
@weeboy
disagree. :P Chris Hemsworth is one of the two male actors I find attractive.
@kittehs
D’awww :D That’s a nice picture.
oh, fuck this guy. May his every step be filled with legos.
And I finally caught up with the comments! *throws a party* :D
“Looking at other threads I’ve noticed there are rather a lot on the subject of male-pattern baldness. Have they all forgotten about this guy?
Yep, that’s the original PUA. Who gets loads. And is bald.”
He’s also very rich, famous and succesful.
LMS bro.
Virgil, you back so soon?
Don’t be. That version of Hawkgirl is made of unalloyed awesome … although she did get to wear the Atheists Don’t Get Religion hat sometimes :(
I don’t read the Hawkman comics, so I don’t know about the other versions of Hawkgirl all that much.
“Virgil, you back so soon?”
Sadly not guys, sorry to disappoint.
You know, just because socks come in pairs doesn’t mean sock puppets need to.
Go away, troll.
Does that comment make sense? I mean, as anything besides Virgil trying to cover up his Virgil-ness.
…this blog really does induce a justifiable level of paranoia…
It makes sense to me, but like you said, they all start to blend together after a while.
Omg I could squee so hard about hawkgirl but it would be a derail. But the only versions I’ve seen of her is Shayera Hol (she was in the Justice League tv show) and Kendra Saunders and Carter Hall as Hawkman and Hawkgirl together in the comics. I … hehe. Well I could squee forever but I think I’ll just stop fangirling before I take over the thread.
I can’t make my mind up which is sadder, a bunch of guys moaning online why they can’t get lucky with women, or the pathetic loser who monitors their site so he can bring back tidbits for his own pathetic little circlejerk of a website in an effort to mock them.
No wonder this website is becoming irrelevant and losing traffic, it’s become home to a bunch of bullies.
Neil Strauss is rich, famous and successful from having been a PUA… he never let baldness get in his way, and neither should the whining incels.
Incidentally I’m writing this as a woman who has a baldy for a boyfriend, after I asked him out. Before you ask- no, he’s not a millionaire, he can’t drive, I’m taller than him in heels, and none of these things bother me. In fact, I like to pay my own way, I have never had any preference for height (and being about the same height has its advantages, nudge-nudge wink-wink) and I hate cars. I find all of these things- and more- attractive about him.
Humans are complex and so is attraction, I wish the MRAs would accept this.
Um, I don’t know. I am un-educated on the trolls :P
Mark: no on ei smaking you be here.
I love how the PUA posts bring whiners and idiots out of the woodwork like no other topic.
dude, it’s called a community. People here actually like to talk to each other sometimes. I know this is hard for trolls to understand, though ;)
Amazingly despite the fact that I am biologically female no one walked up to me today and offered sex completely out of the blue. Really! And yet I interacted with quite a lot of men! Most of the conversations I had with them involved work or small talk that was absolutely not sexual in any way I can fathom. I had a conversation with a guy friend about how much of an asshole Freud was, but that’s the closest to “talking about sex” as it got.
Where is this mystical place where random hot men simply throw themselves at the feet of any woman they can find?
Trolls who whine about this blog act like they’re here under duress, but no, they just want the negative attention.
OMFG. Too many pages of comments!! I *will* read them all, but in the meantime this is way too relevant to my current situation not to comment. I am really sorry if someone said basically the same thing.
I am currently doing a first year Human Evolution and Sexuality course – it’s required for my BBmedSc in human genetics, apparently. It’s been interesting thus far but I am dreading getting into the sexuality aspect as we’ve just started to. Our lecturer is in his 60s, and seems like a lovely guy, but oooooooh god.
ASIDE: morons, we are indescribably different to many animals – we have an endoskeleton and lungs, some animals do not. Female birds have the short chromosome, backwards from mammals. Within fish, you have reproductive strategies that vary from “dump gametes, move on with life” to “male entices female, squeezes out her eggs, then chases her away and guards them until they hatch”. “Animals” is an inconceivably large spectrum of life!
Within our closest relations, primates, we have not one but FOUR different mating systems. Monogamous, polygynous, polyandrous and multimale-multifemale. These systems are all unique, have their own advantages and disadvantages, and observable effects on the evolution of sexual dimorphism and behaviour.
Saying “we’re all animals” is the most ridiculous thing EVER.
So anyway, Manboobzers, feel my pain. :( I genuinely am totally down with learning about sexual selection but I cannot see anyway to teach it non-prescriptively. And we need to acknowledge exactly how difficult it is to study modern humans and make any “rules”.
Today the lecturer asked how many women would prefer their boyfriend to be taller than them. Not, “straight women”, just women. Not “is it a deal breaker”, just would you prefer it. Apparently taller men have greater reproductive success, which is well and good but HOW do you work out reproductive success when we no longer aim for THE MOST BABIES WITH MY GENES. What does qty of babies produced tell us about sexual attraction now? Do they mean number of sexual partners? Length of relationships? HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT?!?!?! *head explodes*
ignotussomnium- I too get fed up at seeing these claims that all women have sex on tap and need never have dry spells or trouble getting laid. Thinking about my own experiences I can only wish that were true…
@Hrovitnir
Sorry to hear about your class :/ Sounds annoying.
Hot and cold running nookie!
@Argenti
Oops, my husband just caught me watching porn (that video)
Hrovitnir- if you really want to get all Daily Mailed-up, try reading Carold Jahme’s “Evo Psych Agony Aunt” column in The Guardian- now thankfully discontinued but all archived here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/series/ask-carole
As a proper biologist, all I have to say about this is AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH.
Hrovotnir, that sounds incredibly frustrating
@kitteh,
that is STILL a great picture Lovely lovely tail. But furry, not feathered ;-)
I’m going to go with “c” some jack ass who shows up and offers his “above-it-all” opinion like anyone gives a shit.
@Marie
Can I steal this?
@mark jones
[insert wall of laughter]
I can’t tell who’s more pathetic: Looks_Law or someone who calls this website a bully hotspot.
What’s this people are complicated nonsense? I don’t know about you all but I am exactly like these fish; the only thing men need to do to get my attention is get together and start nibbling on each other’s genitals: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/20665161
@mxe354
Sure, you can use it :)
“No wonder this website is becoming irrelevant and losing traffic, it’s become home to a bunch of bullies.”
CLAP HARDER
Actually, I think this thread has more comments than I’ve seen in recent memory…
@m354
dang, didn’t respond to the second part of that XD
because it is very hard to tell.
Thanks all. So. Frustrating. The lecturer seems to have a lot of respect for women and other races (the latter being important when talking about evolving out of Africa etc), and generally is open-minded but he IS an old white dude who specialises in human biological sexual selection. We are going to be learning about hip-waist ratios…
lol Oh, I feel you. That might kill me. I might save that up to share with some other gender non-conforming types, if they feel like being rage-amused. :P
This is particularly amusing with your current name… :D
P.S. I never said thanks Kitty, but thanks for complimenting my cat! I got way too behind on that thread. :P
Woah. So I haven’t yet caught up with the comments here, but here are a couple of things:
1) LooksLaw was indeed a sock of Virgil, so he’s banned again.
2) I have no way of knowing if “Ross Jeffries” is in fact the real Ross Jeffries (the speed seduction guy), so, Ross, I’m putting you on moderation until you verify that you are indeed who you say you are (with an email from the account you use on your website or whatever). I just want to make sure that you’re not an imposter.
3) Someone else posted as Neil Strauss but I rather doubt it’s actually Neil Strauss.
Hey, Virgil posted as Virgil back on page 6, just before Ross was all quotation marks do you speak them.
I read this as “all women have sex on top” and was like, “Well sure, some of us do, sometimes!” Have we had this video yet?
Hrovitnir, I hope your class isn’t too bad, but I do love your succinct explanation of why trying to explain human sex like via animal behavior doesn’t make sense. I may borrow from that sometime, if you don’t mind.
This site is becoming irrelevant? That’s news to me. By who’s measurement?
Also, I am a woman and went out in public today. In fact, as part of my line of work, I touched and rubbed several nearly naked men (Massage therapist, get your minds out of the gutter)
And yet I have yet to be ‘offered’ sex.
In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever been, randomly.
Holy Crap! You guys had so much fun while I was gone.
Trollboy: First you want someone’s picture and then you ask for womens’ sexual hstory, even though mens’ histories might be more helpful? That was borderline pervy.
Just case you aren’t a perv: I transitioned from virginity to sexually active at 20 or 21 years old. Two women wanted to date me and both of them approached me. They approached me not because I was handsome (I was not) but because I made it clear in some class discussion that I was a feminist. (In your face anti-feminists!)
The other Trollboy: you win? You are a chewtoy. You are an entertaining abuse receptor. (“food, wine, a little personal abuse”) As such you are a uniter, not a divider, and a really sad and pathetic individual.
Cheekbones? Many African-Americans and Native-Americans from Mexico and Meso-America have prominent cheekbones. Its quite attractive, but it does not follow that less prominent is less attractive.
Speaking of attractive men with mighty-shanks of a nose (old Dr Who ref.), no one mentioned Danny John-Jules. His latest is “Death in Paradise” and even with the grey in his beard he still has it.
“High Noon but with goobers”
I thought the original was a bit gooberish as well. Gary Cooper leaves Katy Jurado, who was every bit his equal (and did I mention it was Katy Jurado?), for an obsequious Grace Kelly. Even as a child I called bullshit.
clairedammit- I always preferred the line “but she only sings when she’s on top” to the original “but she only comes when she’s on top”- it’s funnier for several reasons.
I know that’s not what you meant, but I wish trolls worked like The Clapper. TROLL ON! TROLL OFF!
Nope.
Jeeze, I go away for a week and y’all have a trollsplosion.
The Stepford Knife, I don’t think I heard that before, but yeah!
“Neil Strauss is rich, famous and successful from having been a PUA… he never let baldness get in his way, and neither should the whining incels.
Incidentally I’m writing this as a woman who has a baldy for a boyfriend, after I asked him out. Before you ask- no, he’s not a millionaire, he can’t drive, I’m taller than him in heels, and none of these things bother me. In fact, I like to pay my own way, I have never had any preference for height (and being about the same height has its advantages, nudge-nudge wink-wink) and I hate cars. I find all of these things- and more- attractive about him.
Humans are complex and so is attraction, I wish the MRAs would accept this.”
He isn’t rich, famous and successful from being a PUA, he was a rich, famous, successful writer who then wrote a book about being a PUA, which also sold very well.
Might I ask how old are you?
I think being bald as a guy isn’t too detrimental at an older age, I’m 21 and going bald so I’m very much hindered by it. How many 18-21 year old girls want a balding boyfriend?
My best friend was balding at 13 and had shaved his head entirely by 18. Of all my friends, he did the most dating.
Oooh, this is tempting! Should I? Should I tell him?