How to Hate and Envy Every Single Person in the World, PUAhate edition
Some guys get all the chicks
The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before – are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Posted on March 19, 2013, in creepy, disgusting women, drama kings, entitled babies, evil fat fatties, incel, irony alert, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA, racism and tagged misogyny, pickup artists, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 1,520 Comments.
Oh, god, no. No, they aren’t. They really aren’t.
Oh, god. The facepalm.
I know big strong strapping men with big muscles.
They don’t look like that.
Even the hypergamous ones. (I can say that, right? Even though it’s not a thing? We all get I’m joking?)
@Bagelsan
No problem not to care. Not your job.
I have learned that when certain people (e.g. me) are lashing out in real life, giving them boilerplate sincerity is the only thing that’s remotely helpful.
It comes down to saying, if you’re serious, take care of it like so, because I can’t do anything for you. If you’re not serious, I’m not listening. Making my boilerplate list over and over again doesn’t hurt me any (and its a good reminder for my own self) but there’s no reason you have to treat him the same way I do. I just see myself in his writing and I wish he’d go take care of himself (and stop being ridiculous) but its really up to him since I’m over here on the other side of the internet. Even if for some reason I was there in person, all I could do would be walk him to the counseling center or call 911.
This, exactly. And regarding celebrities, there are several men who are conventionally attractive who I find repellent because of their personalities. Mel Gibson is number one on that list.
My sister’s always teasing me that I fall in love with film characters and not the actors themselves.
I love DeNiro circa Heat but not so much New York! New York! when he was arguably younger and “prettier”.
I love Sidney Poitier in For the Love of Ivy but not so much The Lillies of the Field.
@Bagelsan Absolutely! My perceptions of people’s looks change wildly as my relationships with them/closeness with them changes.
@ Howard Bannister
John Barrowman seems like a great guy to be friends with, but not the appropriate sex partner for me. :-)
You’re accusing women of being “butthurt”?
Really.
Really?!
You’re on this site to complain about us making fun of puahate, but we’re the ones who are butthurt?
Have you seen anyone here complain that not looking like Kate Upton has made them unhappy and reviled, with no friends?
I mean, I’m not gonna lie that I’ve never turned my head a little to watch certain guys on the street, but liking someone or wanting to sleep with them is a lot more complicated than thinking “oh, pretty” and moving along.
Should I blow the kid’s mind? I find both Megan Fox and Kate Upton attractive, and wouldn’t kick either of them out of bed.
Pro tip # 3 – Not all women are straight.
Is it wrong that I think Megan Fox is hot, too? I even saw her in Transformers but nope, still attracted somehow. :p
I know big strong strapping men with
big muscles.
They don’t look like that.
^^^
The right genes + the right diet can get a person that body and Face.
I see a few Hollywood calibre men. They hang out in more affluent areas of society.
Lol @ a Tall Strong Mandibled, High placed cheekbone having men with chiseled physiques being unrealistic.
Fat, pieces of genetic waste is realism to you?
@melody You know, that’s when I really decided that I liked John Barrowman (Captain Jack) as an actor. Sure, he was pretty and charming through Doctor Who and the early days of Torchwood but he didn’t shirk from emotional depths and dark, even truly awful behavior as that series went on. It almost made up for what a prat he could be in interviews…
Was it Looksie Lou who was refusing to admit that Benedict Cumberbatch is also a HOT LEADING MALE(TM) because he wasn’t blonde and buff and American and all that. Because, you know, he and Zachary Quinto have more presence than Chris Pine. Cumberbatch is elegant and effective as Sherlock Holmes, though there I’d definitely prefer Martin Freeman.
And how could I forget the magnificent Simon Pegg?
Cumberbatch is elegant and effective as Sherlock Holmes, though there I’d definitely prefer Martin Freeman.
Agggh you’re fucking reading my mind. *fangirls away*
Jeffster: I don’t use blockquotes, and no one cares.
What do is offset my use of quotation from my original text. You don’t. That’s more than just a lack of adherence to local style, it’s a lack of respect for your audience.
Which comes as no surprise.
Jesus, this Looks guy is as bad as Rimmer because, like Rimmer, nothing’s his fault. It’s all his genes, or his parents, or women
, or that chutney-swilling slob he’s forced to spend the rest of his life with.Looks like someone’d rather whine than decide what course(s) of action would best help him achieve his goals. And I hope that his goals include a loving, caring, reciprocal sexual relationship because self-absorption doesn’t make for a very good lover, and just taking what he wants is not to be thought of.
Strong Mandibled
Yes, but can I cannibalize them as we mate? Hemworth looks chewy. :D
Strong Mandibled
STRONG MANDIBLED
Women who are upset about unrealistic standards of beauty promoted by Hollywood = butthurt bitchz!
But Hemsworth and Hardy = FEMALE TREACHERY!! OPRESHUNZ OF TEH ORDINERY MENZ!!!
qft.
@melodyraewood
Yay! :D congrats.
@cassandrasays
now I wonder if they one of their reasons the think women must have easy time getting laid is they aren’t at incel forums often, when in reality its probably both socialization differences (ex, if a man isn’t getting a dating it’s a woman’s problem, and if a woman isn’t getting a date…it’s still her problem.) And their toxic misogyny. That would keep a good number of women away ;) /thinking way to much about this.
@some gal
Sorry to hear about your back pain. Hope you feel better when you get your injections :)
@weeboy
Yay! Your kitty avatar is cute :D
@annoy
I…I’m not sure how to break this down for you annoy, but women have sexual urges. It’s true. I’ll go with stereotypes for you, since that seems simple: go read some porny fanfic. ;) Also, try not to be such a transphobic asshat. Some men can give birth and get pregnant.
@looks law
somehow, if they have, I doubt it’s due to being straight dudes.
braces self for science failure.
Wait, they defy science by dating women? I mean straight people dating isn’t exactly unheard of.
idk man, I’m a modern woman and I only make fun of men for being misogynistic (or other ism). And those do active harm.
actually, I’m not seeking a mate, but whatever you say, since you seem to be the telepath. Quick, tell me more about my vagina!
No. I just don’t think it happens to straight white cis guys BECAUSE they are straight and white. It CAN HAPPEN TO THEM for different reasons. But orientation, gender/ gender identity, and race are not the cause.
have you met them before? because that would explain a lot….
…why…why was looks capitalized here? I do not understand.
noone’s saying they don’t exist, they’re just saying they aren’t like, the majority of women. These concepts are not that hard to understand, troll boy, if one is not a misogynistic asshat.
Maybe oneday, science can bottle beauty. And we will sell beauty, we have reaped from symmetry, with this measurable beauty. Everyone will get perfectly symmetrical faces, which actually looks weird if you do it in photoshop, but my eyes probably just hurt because they could not comprehend the pretty.
Ok, that didn’t make much sense, but I think it made more sense than troll boy, so I’ll leave it in here.
…cars…have similar measurements to mountains. I have trouble believing this, but I guess that’s why I’ll never understand science.
@kittehs
channeling troll: WHAT THEY ARE THE SAME EVEYWHERE! SOCIALIZATION DOES NOT EXIST! SYMMETRY! SCIENCE!
@looks law
umm…are we avoiding you, or disagreeing with you? Words have meanings, you know.
divine proportion? did god give us beauty? what does that even mean, I can’t even understand.
*praying* Thank you god, for giving me an asymetric face so looks law will never try to flirt with me.
Well clearly you care :P
well, yeah I assume that, cuz they’re raging misogynists. Sheesh.
if this were true, the world would be a lot nicer, because there are not that many puahaters out there.
you really should get your social cues from real life, looks, and not tv.
Well, bad marie is commenting w/o finishing again, like I always do, but I had to
carefully dismantle troll boys argumentspoke the troll because I was bored and caffinated. Be right back when I finish :DDamn you Bagelsan, I never saw you coming.
What is this shit? Look, if you’re not really Ross Jefferies, you need to change your fucking name. If you want to act like your baseline Tumblr SJW, knock yourself the fuck out.
There it is – the obsession with cheekbones.
Virgil’s still here?
Falconer, neither of us expected the MANDIBLES.
Cheekbones!
This is the HAWTTEST actor ever. it’s SCIENCE
SERIOUSLY?!?!?! MANDIBLE???
Okay, the receptionist just came in to see why I was making so much noise (gripping the table for dear life so I don’t fall out of my chair laughing).
Looksie Lou, insects have mandibles. People have jaws or chins (though I can’t come up with a sentence that has “jaw” in it that doesn’t sound idiotic). If people are laughing in your face when you talk, sometimes they could be just mean, but sometimes you are slapping them in the face with your ridiculousness.
Sexiest man alive (err, preserved) right here:
http://theoddluminary.com/store/giant-spiked-mandibles-cave-spider/
Post your longest dry spell ladies.
Males on here please don’t answer( Liars/internet casanovas).
I don’t think you people understand what its like to be INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE.
You don’t know what its like to not be able to get sex.
An important part of human life.
Weaksauce.
starskita, he used to get all the babes before Darth Vader showed off by blowing up a planet. That’s how those alphas roll!
Looks Law….
There are several female virgins on this site…….And why on earth does anybody owe you an explanation of their sex life.
And why are males: liars or internet casanovas.
25 years. Are we counting from birth? Are you even 25 years old, yet, kiddo?
I used to think a casanova was a fruit.
Similar to passionfruit maybe.
It still seems like a feminine name to me even though I know what it is.
Also It appears that my coffee this morning has reactivated.
Also hot actors-patrick stewart. or as I like to say, Captain Jean-Luc Picard sometimes plays patrick stewart when off-screen.
Post your longest dry spell ladies.
Males on here please don’t answer( Liars/internet casanovas).
I don’t think you people understand what its like to be INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE.
You don’t know what its like to not be able to get sex.
An important part of human life.
1) Our sex lives are none of your business.
2) We aren’t therapist.
3) We’ve had “incel” guys come on here and tell us all about how we “don’t understand”. You aren’t special.
We know, we know. We don’t care. You have an entire online community of people who reinforce your every belief. You won’t convert us.
Does he time-share with Prof. X? Or is that still Picard playing? :D
@Marie
NO!! Words only mean what I want them to mean, because REASONS and OPINIONS and DICTIONARIES… no, wait… because SCIENCE!!!
WAH, WAH, BITCHES AIN’T SHIT, AND THEY WON’T FUCK ME!!!! WAH!
I liked you better when you were calling me dirty for having a dick in my mouth.
The Catholic Church hierarchy — all incels???
Where’d my block quotes go?
Well, you know what I meant.
Bagelsan:
according to cracked.com, where I pulled the picture from, Darth vader had cheekbones sculpted into his mask.
They said it was to make it clear that he’s evil. But by SCIENCE we can see it was to steal the babes from this guy (I think it’s Tarkin).
It must have worked so well that they all got stolen offscreen.
Picard also plays professor X, the guy in Dune, and King Richard, among others.
Vader get ALL the ladies. He’s super tall and sculpted and …rich? Maybe? Is he rich?
…nineteen-and-a-half years
And hun, have you tried self-service?
Poor Han Solo never got a single lady on account of less prominent cheekbones. :(
@Bagelsan he has a death star….
I think: Date me or I will blow your planet up might be convincing.
Vader didn’t start rich (episode I)
And ouch, I just metaphorically slapped myself with all the racism in the Darth Vader character. I can’t make funny comments about it now because they will all be horribly racist.
Wait, did Jeffiepoo come back and admit to socking Looksie? Cause it was too perfect from the start, the way the two so elegantly complete each other, especially when Looksie was boohooing about the place and Jeffiekins was feigning sympathy to point out what EBIL BITCHEZ we feminists are…
Is Looks_Law GGG with a sock? He sounds a lot like GGG.
Well, at least the Stormtroopers are white and evil? *weak thumbs up*
Sick of this girl.
1) Our sex lives are none of your
business.
^^^
Code for a slutty past. Its okay ride the carousel till it short circuits, you have that privilege, this is what 60’s feminists fought for.
2) We aren’t therapist.
^^^
You don’t know what its like to be a man. You trivialise Involuntary Celibacy because you’ve never experienced it.
3) We’ve had “incel” guys come on
here and tell us all about how we
“don’t understand”. You aren’t
special.
^^^
Irrelevant and typical of uncaring women, who can’t see past the female privilege.
Live as a man for one month, you’d kill yourself by week 2.
Having access to professional hair stylists and make-up artists. Who use specialized products (especially for HD films). And do hair/make-up touch-ups between every take (which could be super short: throw one good punch, if they need a new angle, retouch, shoot again). Costumes designed specifically to evoke a certain look (muscled, thin, etc.). Stunt doubles for some physical scenes. Highly trained EXPENSIVE trainers, nutritionists, dermatologists and the money to pay for treatment.
Nope. Nothing “unrealistic” about those Hollywood standards at all.
Looksy, I will concede that most “unrealistic standards” are a result of print media with their extreme photoshopping and editing. But Hollywood can afford some nifty tools too.
And good job ignoring the actual POINT of me bringing up women in Hollywood: care to give your list of leading women who are not conventionally attractive? We’ve given ours, and about 2 minutes on imdb will give us oodles more examples.
Live as a man for one month, you’d kill yourself by week 2.
Would we live as ghosts the next two weeks? Awesome.
@Bagelsan – I have to admit I find Megan Fox hot, too.
And idk if Darth Vader gets all the ladies, but he gets me, ever since I hit puberty basically. He was my first crush.
Here’s for you incel whiners:
Yep.
@starskita – yep, that other guy is Grand Moff Tarkin.
Looks law just accused me of having a slutty past.
Wow….Really? How lame are you?
The fact that my sex life isn’t your business doesn’t make me or anyone else a slut.
We still aren’t therapists. It isn’t our job to make you feel better about yourself. It isn’t our job to listen to you call us names and accuse of things you can’t possibly know about us.
I really don’t think being a man would result in me killing myself. After the behavior I have seen my brother get away with because he is a guy…………
Notice that not one of the women on Fauxtrelles site have posted their longest dry spell.
Sloots gonna sloot.
The female privilege is strong in this C-section.
Maybe if you didn’t call women sluts, your problems would be solved.
He’s not looking for a man, he’s looking for a mantis.
Looky-loo: Female privilege is not a thing. NEXT!
Burp and scratch and leave your socks on the floor!
Take up a seat and a half on the bus because you can’t sit with your thighs at less than a 45 degree angle!
Bullshit about sports and live in deathly fear that your buds will suddenly spring up and shout “Ah HA! You don’t know the rules to baseball!” and then it gets all Children of the Corn.
Oh my god did you actually say ride the carousel. And calling jawbones mandibles. And ~no one understands~
Where the hell did I put my popcorn
Looks Law also can’t read.
Several folks did answer.
And several women told you to STFU.
Do you walk up to women in the mall and ask them when the last time they had sex was? Cause that will get security called on you. If it isn’t okay irl why is it okay online?
So I can talk absolute shit, have people take me seriously, AND make 30% more money? Sign my ass up.
I’m sick of you, you whiny ass titty baby. I’m not posting in your space because I respect that it’s a different community. Yet, here you are, pissing all over mine on one of the rare occasions when I get to hang out and participate actively.
Fuck you. You don’t like it? Kick rocks.
No. No code required. Our sex lives are none of your business. There are people in this space who’ve had lots of partners, people who’ve had none, and everything in between. But you aren’t our friend so it’s none of your business.
I have nothing but sympathy for people, regardless of gender and/or sexual orientation who have difficulty finding romantic and sexual partners and feel lonely, disconnected and or physically frustrated as a result. The desire for love and sex are very much a part of the human experience and I know full well how it can be to feel cut off from that.
Now, I trivialize “Involuntary Celibacy” because it’s delusional, narcissistic, bull-shit created by jack asses to try and make up an “official” sounding name for something that’s generally the result of their shit attitudes.
So far I’ve managed to deal with depression, sexism, racism and assault. I think I’d be okay if I had a penis.
Looksie: Why are you mentioning D-List straight to DVD actors that don’t have the drawing power HOLLYWOOD is looking for?
I listed actors who had leading roles.
But let’s add some more.
Dustin Hoffman looks just like Jack Nicholson looks just like Charles Bronson looks just like John Goodman looks just like John Lithgow looks just like Patrick Stewart looks just like Tim Allen looks just like Keven Kline looks just like Kevin Spacey looks like John Malkovich…
And you can complain all you like, they all starred in movies that made bank.
Your thesis is exploded. Cope.
Okay, so it’s actually “involuntarily” at least in the way you are writing it.
Stop confusing being horny with a life threatening condition. Go watch some porn and jerk off if the frustration is getting in your way. Masturbation is perfectly healthy (unless you are doing it so much and so aggressively that you’re causing physical damage) and remarkably effective.
Above all,
Looksie: I don’t complain about Hardy, Hemsworth,
Yes you do. You complain that women like them, and don’t like you. You complain the game is rigged. You don’t blame them, but you whine like an engine at 15,000 RPM.
And the melt-down begins. What time was it when I called it?
Yes, Virgil, there are people on this site who have actually had the icky-icky sex.