Men Who Hate Women Debate How Quickly Women Go Bad
Over on PUAhate.com, a fellow named Virgil challenges the widely held manosphere notion that women start losing their appeal once they hit their early 20s. According to him, the real turning point comes at the ripe old age of 25 or so. Why? Let’s let him explain — and in the process demonstrate how to use the word “c*ntathlon” in a sentence.
Behaviour has to count for something.
Any between ages 18-21 is in her Looks/reproductive Prime but The behaviour in these ages stinks.
Its like a competition to see who can out-cunt the other.
From simple things like skipping lines, to humiliating people in public, to ostracising people.
Its a damn cuntathlon.
We have to have some quality control here okes.
I fully agree that age 24-25 is the tip of the iceberg here folk.
Walk with me.
-she still looks attractive
-She’s starting work and therefore is in a controlled environment where validation is far less.Thus cooling the cunty behaviour
-she’s at the perfect equilibriu$ of grown up behaviour and youthful Looks.
Virgil gets some challenges from the regulars.
JackOfJokers argues that 25-year-olds are still as badly behaved as 18-21-year-olds, and not as good-looking:
Sounds nice in theory Virgil, but the truth is they still get validated fuckloads by desperate office guys, they’re super stuck up, and they definitely look much worse; fat, cellulite, wrinkles, shitty diet, etc.
Mechanical Animals agrees:
If you think girls act much different from 18-21 to 24-25 you are fucking deluded.
Life after high school is exactly that, a continuation after high school.
What does this mean is exactly that, the good looking people keeps living in a bubble of validation way past their academical period.
Life of the sub 8 is a dead end, a merciless damnation. Think about all these beautiful, fucking females. You will never touch them.
The “sub-8” bit is a reference to the notion, seemingly held by 90% of the denizens of PUAhate, that only “male models” ever get to have sex with women.
Genetically Inferior, meanwhile, makes the case for “jailbait.”
15-18 is prime for a female but nobody will admit it
This arouses much ire from the regulars, not so much because Genetically Inferior is being a crepy pedo, but because “at 15 most chicks barely even have any tits developed,” as the similarly named Genetics puts it. “Wake up to reality incel,” Genetics continues in a second comment,
stop comparing tumblr feeds and “jailbait” associated websites of the top percent of teens to the average titless whore. At fifteen you’re merely in grade 10, most chicks have little tits and ass to show for.
Doesn’t start getting good untill 17-18 then peak at 21
I gave up reading the thread at this point as it seemed to have degenerated into little more than a collection of “jailbait” pictures.
Posted on March 13, 2013, in creepy, incel, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA and tagged incel, misogyny, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 771 Comments.
Guy Noir–yup, that’s it.
I seem to now have a new Gravatar; thanks for the tutorial link, Cloudiah!
Now the mages are free? After I already bought a six-pack of them?
@Guy Noir
You are right. I posted a couple of times as Atheist, A Feminist, but then was so amused by Some Guy and his schtick that I decided a change was in order. :)
Okay.
I’ve been a tad whiney on the thread and I’m sorry. I feel much better now.
I cried and my headache is gone….. seriously WTF.
I think the choose you own adventure results would depend on who wrote it.
MRA: Page 6: You ignored a man whose intentions were to compliment you. Misandry!
My favorite part of Glenn’s posts was how his first post was all, “It’s okay ladies, you may still be attractive until you’re 30 or even 34! These young PUAs don’t know what they’re talking about!” and then when he started attacking Some Gal, he did so by saying she’s probably over 25 and therefore unable to attract a “quality ATTRACTIVE man.” He could at least try to be consistent.
Wow. That Glenn was smooth. And I must fess up to y’all, folks: I have been lying the whole time. I am, in fact, a delicious sandwich. On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a sandwich.
Seriously, what is WITH the folks who seem to get off on imagining other people being miserable? I mean, I get no pleasure thinking, I dunno, that NWO has a miserable life. I mean, he didn’t exactly sound HAPPY, but for all I know, he really does have a happy fulfilling life of milk machining. And given the options, I’d really rather he be a happy troll than a miserable one.
We should totally write a cooperative CYOA. You do it by giving everyone permissions on a blog or wiki, one person writes the first page, another person picks an option, makes a new page for it to link to, writes that page, and so on.
I guess my name makes me a sane cat. Is there such a thing?
@melody
It’s cool. We all know what it is like to not feel well. :) I’d rather read all about the things you want to whine about than Glenn P’s attempts to challenge my boundaries.
Great, now you’ve got me imagining parts of that book.
The man says that if your teeth were a little less crooked, you’d have a stunning smile.
To tear his clothes off and ravish him right there, turn to page 18.
Lessee, you and Mac are the bread, Gigi’s the mayo, Sneak’s the cheese, Miranda’s the meat…I’m putting too much thought into this.
Random video that made me smile:
Hm… thread needs moar cyute:
@LBT
I wouldn’t say I get off on it, but I do sometimes enjoy a fantasy of some asshole being as miserable as he or she makes other people (or me in particular). Sharing them with people who haven’t previously consented does seem an awful lot like launching into a detailed sexual fetish fantasy out if nowhere. There isn’t anything shameful about having either, but I think before I share and it will inevitably reveal a lot more about me than about the subject of the fantasy.
of course, seeing their neggs, they probably think that’s how it works…..
More cute?
You ignore the man and keep walking. He calls you a bitch.
To sniff his ass, turn to page 9.
To bark at him, turn to page 14.
To lift your leg and pee on him turn to page 10.
To meow at him turn, to page 7.
To act like a human and tell him to fuck off, to turn page 38.
“traumatized” kitty gets support:
@Marie
Judging from Glenn P, “fuck off” translates to “you are interesting and I wish to know you better”.
The man screams at you for not noticing him and begins to make masturbatory gestures while remarking that you have both too much and not enough sex.
If you try to walk away: he follows you, return to the top of this page.
If you try to ignore him: turn to page 18 and only read every third word.
If you decide this makes him attractive: apologize for ignoring him and turn to page 87.
If you figure that he would listen he would listen to a man: turn to page 74.
(Basically a true story)
RE: katz
*laughs* May I ask the reasoning for the choices?
RE: Some Gal
There isn’t anything shameful about having either, but I think before I share and it will inevitably reveal a lot more about me than about the subject of the fantasy.
Here, here.
I had absolutely no reasoning (except that you were one of the pieces of bread because you’re the part most people see?).
Off topic but OMG Could someone with a public twitter account warn @everydaysexism – Laura Bale is debating Mike Buchanan as in http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/government-tyranny/he-who-pays-the-piper-calls-the-tune-or-does-he/ on the BBC radio 2 Jeremy Vine show at 12.30 tomorrow.
Is the cuntathlon in the same event as the leviathon?
RE: katz
*snickers* Works for me! Gigi’s wrinkling her nose at the idea of mayo; she says she wants to be pickles.
@katz
I got distracted by laughing and a phone call, but if you still need synonyms:
(Apologies if these are duplicates, I know someone did some already and now I can’t find it)
With-it
Hip
Popular
Friendly
Trendy
Impressive
Awesome
High-fiving/High-fivable
Proud (?)
Verbs:
I am not 100% sure what you need…
Strut
Amble
Saunter
Chuckle
Relax
Ease
(Those all seem like things cool people do.)
And I will verb anything, so if the with-it crowd awesomes their way down a street, I am down with that. :)
GlennP: you are being stupid. You come in saying women “still have it in their thirties” – that’s just changing the age limit these dipshits use. You’re still saying women have some sort of time limit that YOU get to impose. Why should any decent person (it’s not just women telling you to fuck off) think that’s a good thing?
You also know jack shit about reading and understanding comments. Assuming someone’s distaste and contempt for a particular statement or attitude = “they are an angry person” just demonstrates that you’re being shallow* and have a one dimensional view of women**, since it’s a woman you’re making your proclamaitons about.
So, from someone else who is happy: fuck off. Stop trying to impose yourself on people who’ve made it quite clear you’re not welcome. Oh, and try applying that to other aspects of your life. You might even pass Human Decency 101 if you study really hard.
* surprise
** even more surprise
@The Kittehs’
LOL. Maybe the leviathon is for manly men and the cuntathlon is for women and manginas. The sources for both seem like gender-essentializers.
@melody I’m so sorry you’re feeling so low. Hugs if you want them!
I chose Viscaria as a name because in the Victorian language of flowers it supposedly represented an invitation to dance. Clearly I am actually an orange lily, which was used to express hatred or intense dislike (according to the internets anyway).
Grr, argh, hate everyone. So angry.
If you attempt to wow him with your intellect with a Sherlockian display of deduction (or induction, whatever peaks your interest), go to page 12
Page 12! “You live alone in a 1 bed 1 bath apartment that is growing mold, you still have dirty dishes in the sink from four meals ago, you ate breakfast and dinner alone in your pajamas while crying, you think that negging works but are too afraid to try it, your job is repetitive and unfulfilling and your boss wants to fire you, you are allergic to cats even though you wish you had one, and you masturbated twice this morning to the sound of your own voice. Wanna fuck?” *bats eyes*
I swear leviathon is a real word. Or at least a fake one I’ve heard used somewhere else* before…
*some where else as in somewhere not this website
Also, I’m secretly a donut hole. *throws herself on couch, sobbing* My life is a lie!!!
@Viscaria
*angry, serious, lonely, unloved feminist face back on*
Grr! Hate! Angry feminists unite!
Marie: Are you thinking of Leviathan, maybe?
@Bagelsan
Well, I messed up what pillow in hell wanted as well. I actually count that as a win seeing as how I was trying to guess what Glenn P would say. If Id made y’all happy, it would have been massively out of character. :)
Oh! I love all the new gravatars! Grr. Argh. Feminist hate. Etc. and so forth.
@freemage
yes, I think I was *blushes* I just fail spelling forever.
So, weedy boy who needs a hairdo thinks we want to show him our pictures to prove ourselves worthy? LOL LOL LOL!
GlennP isn’t even real as far as I’m concerned. He’s just some dumbass words on a computer and I wouldn’t look twice at him. He might as well be a ghost. Men approaching in the street? Pardon me while I hurl.
Don’t you love the way GlennPeeWee was all “Oh I don’t teach negging and manipulation, I just teach men how to be self confident” in the Door Pattern thread yesterday, and it’s taken only, what, 24 hours for his mask to fall off? Not that it was a very good mask, since anyone claiming to be a PUA guru has already shown they’re a pustule.
Marie, that’s a fierce kitty! :D
@kittehs
I must have missed that, not that I feel too let down by it.
And thank you :D I love my new kitten avatar. Thanks to whoever posted the link!
‘I just love kitten avatars’ the angry feminist said bitterly.
I may be rambling because I’m all caffeinated now XD
LBT, everyone has my permission to choose their own sandwich parts.
GlennP needs moar fedora.
Oh look at all the new avatars! It makes the page really colorful. And cute pictures and videos too! [she says bitterly and with great anger]
If we write a CYOA, this dog must feature in it somehow.
That dog is adorbs! We laughed bitterly and angrily about it at work.
There really should be a law that fedoras are off-limits to douchebags and only worn by those who are not oxygen thieves. No fedora could save GPeeWee.
Mr K in fedora = OMG
Johny Depp in fedora = gorgeous
GeePeeWee in fedora = point and laugh / what a waste of a good hat
@The Kittehs’
I was actually surprised he lasted at “reasonable” as long as he did (that is, one whole thread) before starting in on how pathetic men with small penises are* and how attractive women are a reward for succeeding at manliness.
*Men with smaller than average penises may or may not be pathetic as there is nothing wrong with having a smaller penis, but nothing inherently noble about it either.
I was sort of amused — bitterly, of course — that the person engaging in “shaming behavior” against men here was the NOT a feminist. Aren’t we the ones who are supposed to trot out the “small penis” charge at the drop of a hat?
MRAs and PUAs have quite the Pavlovian reaction to being scorned by women, don’t they? If it were drool, the tissue companies would make a fortune. Mind you, given what wankers they all are …
@The Kittehs’
Pavlovian reaction to women’s scorn is a good way of looking at it. All I had to do was establish a boundary and Glenn P was trying his damnedest to push it.
After remembering the way I allowed my boundaries to be pushed when I was in my early 20s, I am very glad to be at a place in my life where I won’t stand for that shit anymore. It is, thankfully, really easy for me to say “that is inappropriate and I am not okay with that” (especially over the internet ffs). More feminism is truly an awesome thing!
So many cats here. ;-) Did you know: the Japanese version of the kitty avatar maker is called “bakeneko avatar maker”.
In Japanese mythology: bakeneko = cat with supernatural powers .
It’s funny, isnt’ it – they think they’re the Psychology Kings with their negging and assorted nonsense, yet their buttons are really easy to push.
*laughs evilly*
After the conversation Mr K and I had this morning, I’m even more amused by GeePeeWee and his kiddiwink patheticosity† and schoolyard attempts to get a rise out of us. The contrast could not be greater.
*laughs uproariously just thinking about it*
† of course it’s a word
ShiOres – isn’t that all cats? ;)
@The Kittehs’
I found the timing amusing as the boyfriend and I just celebrated our 9th anniversary. Glenn P could not have picked a worse time to try the string-of-failed-relationships-never-truly-been-sexually-satisfied-alone-forever gambit. (Unless it was this time next year, that would be worse!)
His attack on you made me laugh even harder at him (at the same time as scorning him for being a horrible human being) because even without knowing it was your anniversary – congrats, btw! – anyone who’s familiar with your writing here knows how totally wrong he was. Stratospherically wrong! :D
Isn’t it a joke, too, that they think “forever alone” is an unattractive prospect to everyone – or to anyone, if the alternative is being with one of them. It’d be like eating cold porridge and ketchup for the rest of your life.
And as someone else here said, anyone who suggests that feminists die alone surrounded by cats doesn’t know cats.
Oh my god. That is amazing. That is a fantasy I can get behind. Grey, schmey, I think it’s a pretty reasonable proposition. <3
As for this:
Hahahaha. Wut. I don’t read troll’s posts, just responses to them, so I effectively get the best bits combined with the joy of someone else telling them where to stick it.
This… this is bizarre. Who the hell responds to a man randomly approaching them by attempting to !WOW! them. Dude. No. That just doesn’t happen: certainly not in statistically significant numbers. If someone else in a queue strikes up a conversation that’s fairly natural and you enjoy it, that’s always nice. I got the number of a bank teller once because he was fun to talk to. But the whole framing of what Glenn said makes you into this pretty thing demonstrating your good points in the hopes the man you’re talking to is a buyer. Ewww.
@The Kittehs’
Thanks. I also don’t really understand the “How many times have you been cheated on?” question. All my being cheated on would tell anyone is that I dated I cheater. I can see having trust issues after that, but it being such a big “gotcha” that he stuck it at the end? (It is such a different tone from the other questions, too.) I feel like I am missing some secret PUA meaning. I know when women cheat on their beta husbands with alphas it is hypergamy or something and also lying cheating sluts, but men? Is it a trading up thing? It confused me.
@The Kittehs’ Unpaid Help:
I don’t know, bakenekos can talk, IIRC cats usually don’t talk (maybe they just play dumb?).
http://neutralx0.net/tool/bnmk.html
Seems the Japanese version has some extra features, e. g. you can add paws. ;-)
Not to mention, why would we want to impress some random bloke in the street? I mean, sure, I daresay there are lots of nice available fellers in your average city crowd, but … does PeeWee think women are as desperate as PUAs? Has he never heard of having a social life, or having no interest in strangers however good looking they may be, or being content with a) one’s partner(s) of whatever gender or b) no partner at all?
Sonny Jim here has very limited life experience, methinks, and a correspondingly narrow idea of how varied people are. (One problem he has is the same old one of not really perceiving that women are people.)
Some Gal: being cheated on would mean you failed as a sex dispenser. That’s what people like Glenn (is the extra “n” for extra neg?) would think. It’s also meant to knock you off balance.
…Is it weird that I read everything Glenn said in Shatner’s voice?
They can, they just refuse to talk in anything except Cat. They’re messin’ with your mind. :P
Paws too, that would be adorbs!
That’s funny, Sid. I kept reading his posts in the voice of Grimus, that purple dude from the Ronald McDonald gang. Remember how he’d start all his lines with “Duhhhh.”
Update on my campaign for a Feminist Society!
I have a whole 32 signatures and I only started collecting at 2pm today (it is 10 past midnight, of errrr tomorrow).
I should hopefully be collecting a few more tomorrow, but I’ve filled up a side and a half with signatures and it looks impressive.
@Gillian, I like it, it’ll be like the blood of the men Feminism has trampled beneath it’s jackboot of misandry!
@hellkell
Ah. How could I have forgotten my sex dispenser job? *facepalm*
Seriously, thanks. I knew I was missing something. It certainly failed at knocking me off balance in part because I am used to trolls not making sense! :)
@Historophilia
Excellent work and congratulations!
Um so I’ve been wondering. What are the two points kitty in the poster did earn?
pillowinhell – 1. Being a kitty. 2. Not peeing on bozo’s leg.
historophilia – congrats and here’s hoping for lots more signatures and success!
@Historophilia
Yay for your signatures! :D
I was away for a while because I had to bitterly* snuggle my guinea pigs, which are at my moms house.
*have we stopped being bitter and anger in all our updates? My connection with the hive mind is a little faulty today :P
You guys tell me if I’m being too weird, btw.
The article is a horror, but that cat picture is hilarious
Ok, I’m on page one still but have to say — Some Gal, if you want to get that drink Glenn offered, I’ll tag along and pour it over his head. Thoughts on Irish whiskey?
I’ll catch up eventually, long day, psych appt, new script, new plant, repotted an amaryllis, no wait, it had a side bulb so two amaryllis(es? Ī? Let’s just not), repotted way too many succulents (anyone want some plants?!) and am staring at my new plant going “no, no, I just want to collapse damnit”. Also, there is now potting soil all over my rug, it’s one of those days.
Time to stop whining and either catch up or take a look at the roots on my new plant!