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Men Who Hate Women Debate How Quickly Women Go Bad

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Over on PUAhate.com, a fellow named Virgil challenges the widely held manosphere notion that women start losing their appeal once they hit their early 20s. According to him, the real turning point comes at the ripe old age of 25 or so. Why? Let’s let him explain — and in the process demonstrate how to use the word “c*ntathlon” in a sentence.

Behaviour has to count for something.

Any between ages 18-21 is in her Looks/reproductive Prime but The behaviour in these ages stinks.

Its like a competition to see who can out-cunt the other.

From simple things like skipping lines, to humiliating people in public, to ostracising people.

Its a damn cuntathlon.

We have to have some quality control here okes.

I fully agree that age 24-25 is the tip of the iceberg here folk.

Walk with me.

-she still looks attractive

-She’s starting work and therefore is in a controlled environment where validation is far less.Thus cooling the cunty behaviour

-she’s at the perfect equilibriu$ of grown up behaviour and youthful Looks.

Virgil gets some challenges from the regulars.

JackOfJokers argues that 25-year-olds are still as badly behaved  as 18-21-year-olds, and not as good-looking:

Sounds nice in theory Virgil, but the truth is they still get validated fuckloads by desperate office guys, they’re super stuck up, and they definitely look much worse; fat, cellulite, wrinkles, shitty diet, etc.

Mechanical Animals agrees:

If you think girls act much different from 18-21 to 24-25 you are fucking deluded.

Life after high school is exactly that, a continuation after high school.

What does this mean is exactly that, the good looking people keeps living in a bubble of validation way past their academical period.

Life of the sub 8 is a dead end, a merciless damnation. Think about all these beautiful, fucking females. You will never touch them.

The “sub-8” bit is a reference to the notion, seemingly held by 90% of the denizens of PUAhate, that only “male models” ever get to have sex with women.

Genetically Inferior, meanwhile, makes the case for “jailbait.”

15-18 is prime for a female but nobody will admit it

This arouses much ire from the regulars, not so much because Genetically Inferior is being a crepy pedo, but because “at 15 most chicks barely even have any tits developed,” as the similarly named Genetics puts it. “Wake up to reality incel,” Genetics continues in a second comment,

stop comparing tumblr feeds and “jailbait” associated websites of the top percent of teens to the average titless whore. At fifteen you’re merely in grade 10, most chicks have little tits and ass to show for.

Doesn’t start getting good untill 17-18 then peak at 21

I gave up reading the thread at this point as it seemed to have degenerated into little more than a collection of “jailbait” pictures.

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Posted on March 13, 2013, in creepy, incel, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink. 771 Comments.

  1. @glenn, go away, nobody wants you hear. You’re a huge creep, pro tip, women normally don’t want to get drinks with guys who are trying to get everyone riled up. And also are assholes.

  2. Glenn is freaking me out.

  3. I love a great debate and only have respect for the opinions of others but the reaction of the people here does you and your cause no justice and only furthers the assumptions of anti-femminists which is in direct conflict with what you are trying so hard to change!

    Are you as good at picking up women as you are reading comprehension?

    Top of the site. Scroll up.

    We’re here to mock misogyny. Nobody gives a shit about changing your or any other anti-feminist’s opinion.

  4. “The “sub-8” bit is a reference to the notion, seemingly held by 90% of the denizens of PUAhate, that only “male models” ever get to have sex with women”

    It sounds more like they feel only attractive men (or ‘male models’) will get to have sex with worthwhile women. Which, I guess, could be true depending on exactly what your definition of worthwhile is…

    I don’t think they really consider the ugly, fat, average, boring, or otherwise unattractive women they don’t even look at as options for such fine upstanding people such as themselves.

  5. It’s like he doesn’t realize he’s the butt of the joke…

  6. @Some Gal “assfax” LOVE THAT!!

    aw… we’ve got our very own widdle putroll! Lol at the idea that giving women an extra five or so years ‘grace’ on attractiveness is somehow a favor worth a date. I snarfed even harder at that ‘mean feminists need to be nicer to people with idiotic ideas so that people will like us’ advice! Cuz we’re totes acting like a pack, y’all!

    Here’s a question. It’s mansplaining when some big strong guy comes along to point out the patently obvious in an utterly condescending way. What’s the term for a similar someone who comes along to give completely irrelevant and sexist ‘advice’?

  7. OMG did I just totally ostrich-size someone? I WIN THE CUNTLYMPICS.

  8. I find it hilaritragic how frequently they openly talk about how women who have self-esteem won’t fuck them.

    You’d think they’d be embarassed. Don’t the Germans have an expression for being embarassed for someone else?

  9. I would agree that a womans clock is ticking as she climbs up the ladder of age. But to try and say that a woman hits her high point at 24-25 is utter bullshit and truly shows his lack of experience with mature HOT women.

    We’re against judging women purely on their looks here. Butt out.

  10. There is! Fremdschämen!

    That’s what I have.

  11. I’m going with “schadenfreude” even though that’s not what you mean. :D

  12. @Glenn P

    Once again, fuck off is not an invitation to start a discussion with me. Fuck off means leave and never talk to me again. My boundaries have been established and will not change. I will keep telling you to fuck off because I take pleasure in maintaining my boundaries and helping to defend my community from creeps. So, once again, fuck off.

  13. @Nobinayamu Yep! Fremdschämen! Even better than schadenfreude, imho.

  14. @Bagelsan

    I like schadenfreude for this, too. I am making feminists look so bad and mean and angry that we are irresistible to Glenn P. Although, he did ask my age so maybe whether or nit I am irresistible would depend on that.

    These guys are so skeeeevy!

  15. This shit:

    “…but the reaction of the people here does you and your cause no justice and only furthers the assumptions of anti-femminists which is in direct conflict with what you are trying so hard to change!”

    Explain that accusation to me in a way that makes sense. I’m all ears.

    See, we should have kept our mouths shut and not mocked misogyny or defended our gender — ’cause look what happened, this one dude doesn’t like us now. *Sniff*

  16. Forgive me if the answer to this question is dead obvious but what’s Glenn P up to with this offering a drink BS, so… do you know each other?

  17. Some Gal, the offer of flammable substances stands! Keep being mean, with my evil feminist blessing. ^^

  18. @Shiraz

    But he still wants to buy me a drink. Not only is the game rigged, the prize fucking sucks.

  19. @Katz OMG, yes!

    OMG, PUAs think their technique works because it works on them!

    This explains so much. “Negging” is totally the linguistic equivalent of running up to a girl on the playground and shoving her so that she falls down. Then they giggle when she yells because they think any attention is good attention.

    I suppose we should be glad they are using their words, which shows they have made the transition from a mental age of 3 to one of about 5. Maybe there is hope yet?

  20. You are obviously a very angry person. I am sure that you have legit reasons. But remember it was you who attacked me and my comment which was actually in favor of not assuming that a woman reaches her high-point of her desirability from men at the age of 25. If I might ask, how old are you?

    Yeah, he’s just in favor of waiting a few years to call women horrible hideous hags. Guys, Glen is SO much better than those other assholes! He’s willing to give women all a whole five extra years of worthiness! Maybe even then some! Thank goodness! I was SO worried!

    I love a great debate and only have respect for the opinions of others but the reaction of the people here does you and your cause no justice and only furthers the assumptions of anti-femminists which is in direct conflict with what you are trying so hard to change!

    Jeeze, why are we women all so mean? He’s just trying to have an intellectual conversation with the ladies about the worth of their bodies! Maybe if we ladies nicely asserted that we are more than the sum of our tits and asses by virtue of being human they would finally recognize we’re human! I mean, probably not, but hey, let’s take only the biebillionth concern troll’s advice to just be nicer! Maybe it’ll work this time!

    All in all, this is really quite the pack mentality and is truly fun to watch unfold.

    He’s right. It IS really weird that a bunch of feminists congregate on a feminist site that mocks misogyny.

    And, my offer to go for a drink still stands!

    Wow, he’s even blessing you with the possibility of his presence, possibly more! What a swell, swell guy! We really should be nicer to him!

  21. @ShiOres

    Apologies if I am answering a rhetorical question. No, we do not know each other. He’s just trying to push my buttons. Fortunately, to really have a chance at that, he’d have to have some idea where they were.

  22. @somegal… @marie

    Somegal- Irresistible to me??? You can’t be serious.
    Marie- Like I was seriously asking her out for a drink…

    I asked her age because I have feeling that she is not only above the 25 mark and no loner capable of attracting quality ATTRACTIVE men into her life, but that she has also have had failed relationship after failed relationship and has never and I repeat never lived out any of her sexual fantasies to any degree worth mentioning. She is alone in this world and anyone who can;t see that a woman who finds the need to give herself the screen name of “somegalnotboredatall” is in fact desperate to fool the world at large that she is happy and content has my complete sympathy.

  23. @Bagelsan

    Knowing what we know about Glenn P, my throwing a drink on him (on fire or not) would just be taken as evidence that I was willing to have a drink with him if he just pressured me enough. It is like talking to a brick wall that keeps threatening to move closer.

  24. Pfffft. Glenn P plays prophet and… is totally wrong. ISTR the events around Some Gal picking her `nym involving the guy with the `nym Bored with your Schtick–amirite?

    Making his projected fantasy that much more transparent.

  25. @some gal

    so, according to loser pua guy, your name is a sign that you are trying to fool us to think you are happy. I never knew this. Sorry the creepazoid is bugging you though.

  26. @Some gal are you sure you don’t know Glenn? He seems to think he knows all about your life and that can’t just be based on your username because…..that would be stupid.

  27. Jesus, more negging, more projection. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  28. And there was Glenn P trying to push my buttons. Again, without having any idea what they are. This is getting increasingly ridiculous though.

    (Also, am laughing so hard at his guess at where my name comes from. Who else is, too? Apologies to the newbies, but if I explain right now, Glenn P will look less ridiculous to me and where is the fun in that?)

    *reaffixes serious, angry, lonely, expired feminist face*

    Fuck off, Glenn P.

  29. is in fact desperate

    And yet, still not as desperate as a PUA coming to a feminist website to pathetically look for web hits.

  30. She is alone in this world and anyone who can;t see that a woman who finds the need to give herself the screen name of “somegalnotboredatall” is in fact desperate to fool the world at large that she is happy and content has my complete sympathy.

    You know, they say that when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. I think the last two words of that saying are incorrect but the rest are certainly relevant.

  31. Again I ask, Glenn. Did you completely miss the whole “MILF” phenomenon that started at least in the 90s and never really died out?
    So, anyways, dare I ask, can you use your pseudo-psychology to say what my screen name says about me?

  32. @howardbann1ster

    You got it! Strange how people who know me actually know me, huh? It is almost as though interactions between people work like you’d expect them to. Weird. :P

  33. OT: I’m trying to edit some more of GGG’s comments but I’m running out of words for cool people. Can I get some suggestions?

  34. Ah yes, your user name is suddenly relevant. I am fermented grapes in liquid form.

  35. It would be humorous to see what glenn thinks are usernames mean, but it also might be horrifying.

  36. @katz

    Calling them Glenn Ps is certainly out. Do you mean like synonyms for “cool people” or synonyms for “cool”?

  37. So, because of me, will he actually believe that there are Great Old Ones waiting to destroy the world who accept internships?

  38. Shiraz

    Does that mean I’m music? Because I could totally roll with that.

  39. You know, they say that when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

    “Now you’ve made an ass out of yourself and some guy named umptions!”

  40. My nym is Howard Bannister because my RL name is Steve.

    This is deeply hilarious. To me. For reasons.

  41. @Cthulhu’s Intern

    So, because of me, will he actually believe that there are Great Old Ones waiting to destroy the world who accept internships?

    I (not so secretly) hope so.

    I wonder what my username reveals about me. But it’s kind of boring. Ohmygod, does this mean that I, in fact, am boring?!!!eleven

  42. Yes, lovely Melody, you are music! Go forth and inspire!

  43. @Some Gal Not Bored at All:

    Sorry, never was exposed to PUAs before. I just wondered why he assumes you don’t happen to live 3000 miles away. So he found a way to transport liquid through the Internet.

  44. @Marie: No, it means you are actually a chemist who lived most of her life in France who has been dead for 78 years.

  45. @howardbann1ster

    This is deeply hilarious. To me. For reasons.

    I hope they are climbing-the-age-ladder, angry, lonely, feminist reasons. Otherwise, we will have to ostracize you. Glenn P said (and we all know how insightful and witty his thoughts are). :P

    /goofy

  46. @katz

    Cheesy/bizzarre ones:

    Dudemeister
    Daddy-o
    The Bomb
    Fly chap
    Hip/Hep Cat
    Groovy dudes
    Most Epic Gentlefolk
    Chill posse
    The Ones of Us
    The Most Ancient And Awesome Order of Cool People

  47. Also, am laughing so hard at his guess at where my name comes from. Who else is, too?

    *raises hand* It was almost too perfect, I half suspected a Poe, but it’s definitely possible he’s just THAT ridiculous.

  48. @Cthulhu’s Intern

    Sweet, I can hang with zombie dworkin then, I hope XD

  49. @ShiOres

    He’s pulled everything else about me out of his ass, why not where I live? (It is really amusing to me that he is even guessing I’m over 25 given that I already said as much at the beginning of the thread.)

  50. @Marie: Yes! Feminists will never die! We can continue this long conspiracy!
    DEATH TO ALL MEN! LONG LIVE WOMYN SUPREMACY!

  51. She is alone in this world and anyone who can;t see that a woman who finds the need to give herself the screen name of “somegalnotboredatall” is in fact desperate to fool the world at large that she is happy and content has my complete sympathy.

    You should go share all this insight with the PUAhate.com guys.

  52. You know, they say that when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.
    </blockquotes
    “Now you’ve made an ass out of yourself and some guy named umptions!”

    “Assuming makes an ass out of u and Ming, AND NOBODY MAKES AN ASS OUT OF MING!”

  53. I forgot to mention, gal, if you somehow do accept a drink from him over cyberspace (headshake), make sure you ask how old he is, because that’s the most important thing about him (except for his penis size). Also, consider analyzing his username, which is uber important.

    /sarcasm off/

  54. I really should have placated the blockquotes monster with meat before jumping into their pit.

  55. @Shiraz

    I am guessing he has problems urinating, but is desperate to tell the world he can (hence the “P”). I can’t do worse than he did with my name.

  56. GlennPUA stuck around? Ha ha ha. This is why I love this place. The trolls are so clueless. “Oh David, I would love this website of yours if it weren’t for all the mockery. It makes all the people who don’t really think women are human beings think less of you. Could you try being nicer?”

    (In before my ‘nym proving that I am a bitter and depressed person, because CLOUDS.)

  57. Aw, poor widdow glennie. Did the meanie femmininininees hurt your feefies?

    Seriously, you went from “I totally enjoy having discussions with, you know, people” to “OMG you are so mean, that must be because you are so old and unhappy that you never have any fun!” awful fast there, buddy. Your slip is showing…

  58. @Shiraz
    And how much money he has too. Because that is also apparently important.

  59. Do you mean like synonyms for “cool people” or synonyms for “cool”?

    Both. I need to replace abusive nouns and abusive adjectives. Hell, even verbs.

  60. @somegal…

    Post a picture of yourself and prove to me that you are a woman with options… I bet you won’t change your avatar pic!!!

    When is the last time you got laid? When is the last time you’ve been held in the arms of a man that can turn you on just by looking at you? When is the last time you’ve truly felt alive and like a woman who can confidently walk down any street in America and be sure of herself? When is the last time you’ve turned the head of a man, had him approach you and then you WOW’D him with your intellect, spontaneity and zest for life? How many times have you been cheated on???

    I bet you will hide behind the ” I don’t have to prove anything to the world mentality…

  61. Or actually, since he’s into reverse psychology, perhaps I should change my ‘nym to cloudiah-who-lives-a-life-of-quiet-desperation to prove to him that I am actually a pretty happy person?

  62. OMG, it’s another post-a-picture troll!!! I missed the last one. [gets popcorn]

  63. @cthululu’s intern

    @Marie: Yes! Feminists will never die! We can continue this long conspiracy!
    DEATH TO ALL MEN! LONG LIVE WOMYN SUPREMACY!

    Yes! and I seek the brains of any men that are not already manginas! I shall free them from their evil thoughts, and they will enter the hivemind!

    I’m having too much fun with this XD

    @some gal

    I am guessing he has problems urinating, but is desperate to tell the world he can (hence the “P”). I can’t do worse than he did with my name.

    *giggles* At least I can tell where you got that from. His analyzing your name I think I’d have to read a couple more times before I understand it.

    femmininininees

    best. word. ever.

  64. @Gal,

    Oh, I almost choked on my coffee.

  65. @Glenn She doesn’t have to prove anything.
    Not to you. Not to me. Not to anybody.

  66. @ cloudiah

    *dies laughing*

    When is the last time you’ve been held in the arms of a man that can turn you on just by looking at you?

    ummmmmmm what. I don’t speak for some gal, but people can’t turn me on just looking at me. Either I think they’re attractive or I don’t, creepy facial expressions won’t change any of it.

  67. GlennP: fuck off with your pic requests. Get a job and a haircut, assbag. Parting suckers from their money as a PUA “coach” is fucking lower than telemarketing.

    Aw, Glenn just wants to debate, but he’s calling us angry and wondering when we’ve gotten laid. Poor little man, who’s desperate–us or the PUA jagoff who’s coming here uninvited?

  68. Glenn P is here to give us lessons in negging.

    That and violating stated boundaries as often as possible.

  69. Aw. Glenn P doesn’t believe I look like a bunch of Perler-beaded Disney princesses? I am so hurt. I bet I make them because I am so alone and sad and old.

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