Men Who Hate Women Debate How Quickly Women Go Bad
Over on PUAhate.com, a fellow named Virgil challenges the widely held manosphere notion that women start losing their appeal once they hit their early 20s. According to him, the real turning point comes at the ripe old age of 25 or so. Why? Let’s let him explain — and in the process demonstrate how to use the word “c*ntathlon” in a sentence.
Behaviour has to count for something.
Any between ages 18-21 is in her Looks/reproductive Prime but The behaviour in these ages stinks.
Its like a competition to see who can out-cunt the other.
From simple things like skipping lines, to humiliating people in public, to ostracising people.
Its a damn cuntathlon.
We have to have some quality control here okes.
I fully agree that age 24-25 is the tip of the iceberg here folk.
Walk with me.
-she still looks attractive
-She’s starting work and therefore is in a controlled environment where validation is far less.Thus cooling the cunty behaviour
-she’s at the perfect equilibriu$ of grown up behaviour and youthful Looks.
Virgil gets some challenges from the regulars.
JackOfJokers argues that 25-year-olds are still as badly behaved as 18-21-year-olds, and not as good-looking:
Sounds nice in theory Virgil, but the truth is they still get validated fuckloads by desperate office guys, they’re super stuck up, and they definitely look much worse; fat, cellulite, wrinkles, shitty diet, etc.
Mechanical Animals agrees:
If you think girls act much different from 18-21 to 24-25 you are fucking deluded.
Life after high school is exactly that, a continuation after high school.
What does this mean is exactly that, the good looking people keeps living in a bubble of validation way past their academical period.
Life of the sub 8 is a dead end, a merciless damnation. Think about all these beautiful, fucking females. You will never touch them.
The “sub-8” bit is a reference to the notion, seemingly held by 90% of the denizens of PUAhate, that only “male models” ever get to have sex with women.
Genetically Inferior, meanwhile, makes the case for “jailbait.”
15-18 is prime for a female but nobody will admit it
This arouses much ire from the regulars, not so much because Genetically Inferior is being a crepy pedo, but because “at 15 most chicks barely even have any tits developed,” as the similarly named Genetics puts it. “Wake up to reality incel,” Genetics continues in a second comment,
stop comparing tumblr feeds and “jailbait” associated websites of the top percent of teens to the average titless whore. At fifteen you’re merely in grade 10, most chicks have little tits and ass to show for.
Doesn’t start getting good untill 17-18 then peak at 21
I gave up reading the thread at this point as it seemed to have degenerated into little more than a collection of “jailbait” pictures.
Posted on March 13, 2013, in creepy, incel, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, PUA and tagged incel, misogyny, PUA. Bookmark the permalink. 771 Comments.
*wrings hands* if only I had known how little time I have. I’m 25 :'( my life is over PUAs don’t wanna fuck me.
Wow. This is what happens when you spend all your time in an echo chamber completely divorced from reality and never go outside. Going to post a link to the twitter account you bumped last time that is a treasure trove of this kind of awful, completely un-self-aware garbage: http://twitter.com/puahate_txt/
Well I just vomited…
In other news, if anyone remembers me posting about the Feminist Society I was trying to start up at my University I have developments.
Our student union refused to ratify us as apparently we have a Women’s Committee (which is part of the student union) and that should be enough.
But we will not take this lying down! I’m writing a letter of appeal and also have been running a petition. I did a two hour session just now where I sat in a campus bar and invited people from the facebook group to come and sign it. Considering I was relying on people turning up specially I did really well and have got over 20 signatures and met some cool people.
So fingers crossed our union gets its head out of its arse and ratifies us.
Oh, god, these guys…
I now want to yell at somebody.
Cuntathlon?
plz go step on a lego. God, these guys…
Also, it seems like they can’t go three sentences without using the word cunt.
Also, also:
women are terrible and stuck up! I have to have one!
I’ve never been happier to be 29. It’s great being naturally repellent to these scumbags.
Good luck historophilia!
Seriously, are the events in a cuntathlon skipping lines, public humiliation, and ostracizing someone?
It’s a revenge post, a way of getting back at all the beautiful (sensible) women who would never touch them. It’s so horrible being a “sub-8,” they have to pretend women age in super-quick fast dog years. Certain facts upset these guys, like the bit about women living longer on average then men, the fact that womens’ sexual peak comes at an older age, and so on. Want them to throw a tantrum? Tell them that some women don’t like bald heads, beer bellies or whatever….or some women only date younger guys.
But once again they’ve proven that they want beautiful women (or teens and children, in many cases) but absolutely hate them with every fiber in their being.
@Historophilia
Good luck and excellent work so far!
All I can think is that these guys don’t know much about biology. My breasts didn’t reach the size they are now (and that they will seemingly stay) until I was 23. In talking with my friends, 23-25 doesn’t seem an abnormal age for breasts to “settle in.” (Of course, some people will develop earlier or later and that is normal, too.) I will never understand how people with so much supposed interest in women and/or breasts prefer assfax to what actually goes on physically.
Heh. It’s like can you imagine a bunch of feminists sitting around talking like pua’s. The’d be like burned at the stake. But hey, what’s good for the goose isn’t always advisable for goose or gander. Jailbait? LMR? That’s your son or daughter these guys want to get their paws on. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy doesn’t it?
@ some gal
my breasts got to their size somewhere between 14 and 16. (hard to tell because for the longest time I was wearing incorrectly sized bras). It’d be weird if they grew more when I got older…not that I’d mind (tmi) but I have a weird attachment to my boobs.
Thanks Cloudiah! I’ve had loads of support, though I think I’ve pissed off Women’s Committee in the process, but hopefully I’m sorting that out, as it’s mainly due to miscommunication and my not having had the time to keep them in the loop properly.
Next stage of the plan is to start a campaign in the various student media outlets on campus, I’ve had a fair amount of interest from the newspapers and such, Partly because they all hate the Union, as they are slow and cripplingly bureaucratic and make everyones life harder than it needs to be.
I’ll keep you all posted.
These guys clearly don’t get out and meet or know any women, ever.
I know that to them, at 41 I’m so past my sell-by I’m dead, but wrinkly at 25? No. Not wrinkly now.
Shiraz is right–it’s a revenge fantasy, because I don’t know any woman who would waste time with one of them.
Buntzums, what the fuck are you on about?
Woo I have never been happier to be ageing so rapidly away from peak femininity! :D grow longer, beloved grey hairs, I will never colour you again.
Re the ‘skipping lines, public humiliation, and ostracising’ – am I just being cynical after a long day, or did anyone else’s mind immediately go to,
a) bouncers letting ‘peak femininity’ women into clubs without them queuing (which I have vaguely heard can happen, or seen on films/ music videos/ telly but haven’t seen in real life) and
b) the poster hitting on someone in public and them turning him down, followed by
c) the person in question avoiding him thereafter?
I should really give him more benefit of the doubt, perhaps.
And thanks as well SomeGal!
Unfortunately I am 20, which is right slap bang in the centre of their preferred zone.
Luckily I am far too outspoken and Feminist for them, plus I have short hair, so I probably don’t count as attractive for their purposes, thank god.
Also, this 15-18 thing, they love to blather on about biology and fertility but it’s interesting that they ignore the basic fact that teenagers have far higher rates of mortality due to pregnancy and childbirth and are often not mentally mature enough to cope with it either.
Teenagers are NOT at their ideal stage of fertility and these MRA’s should do well to remember that.
There are teenage girls suffering and dying in childbirth as we speak and these disgusting individuals should be ashamed of themselves for sexualizing children.
Oops, ‘peak femininity’ isn’t really a Thing, I was thinking about peak oil and that book about peak salt and the whole peak prosperity thing. And that may not have come across as sarcastically as intended. Apologies!
And that is why I don’t post here more often, because I always make a hash of it and flee in embarrassment. Um, cheerybye, happy Wednesday, peeps.
… I’m still stuck at “cuntathalon”, and unable to shake the feeling that I think I’d totally start watching the Olympics if it were a real thing.
I think this “expiration date = 21″ bullshit is fucking toxic. It’s like it has every aspect of this shitpile bound up in it: dismissing women’s personality and emotions as having a bearing on sex and relationships, admitting they have the emotional depth of a 20 year old, a subconscious justification of why they can ignore their own appearance, predatory behavior towards emotionally less developed women, denigration of women’s status as human, denial of their ability to grow and change… It’s like a Mary Poppins bag of misogyny, i can just keep unpacking more and more and more out of it.
Ugh. If I run out of vomit, can I have some of y’all’s?
@ Historophilia
Dealing with campus politics can be a real pain but I wish you the best in that.
When I was in college we had a running argument with the student union over SCA practice space and they simply wouldn’t listen until we found the right people to talk to.
@beshemoth
That’s what I was trying to tell my mom, because I love dying my hair and have all these weird ideas about it. But she had three colors in her hair, her normal brown, a slightly redder brown she ended up dying it, and grey, and it looked so cool :P If I get grey early genes like my mom I’m going to have so much fun playing with them (if my hair tastes don’t change). /rambles.
Don’t flee in embarrassment!
@Historophilia
I’m 18, which means I’m just entering it :/
OT-ish, but I assumed you were older for some reason.
LOLwut?
The women you want to fuck, WHO ARE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU ARE A PERSON AND JUST LIKE YOU GET TO DECIDE WHO THEY DESIRE, do not want to fuck you. And that makes them cunts. But when you place value on the opposite sex, that’s totes cool. Men are the sole arbitors of value in society. Got it.
“I’d totally start watching the Olympics if it were a real thing.”
Especially if it featured PUAs getting slapped down with mockery and insults. FTW.
I’m 22 (nearly, it’s a few months away). Wrinkles: well, I have my joint lines, and stuff? And as for fat/cellulite – not a lot, although my legs are pretty chubby but also toned. Femininity: hahahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
Gone bad? Yeah, no, everyone thinks I’m going awesome. :D
Yeah, the “skipping lines to humiliating people in public…” crap makes me think they base their worldview on that movie “Mean Girls” or maybe “Revenge of the Nerds” if they’re old school. I wonder why they think berating women and calling them bunch of cunts on a public forum doesn’t count as “ostracising” people?
Come on, ladies. You hear how they’re talking about you? Don’t ya want to date one of these troglodytes?
That is a very sweet cat.
Memories–junior high school, among the things I would hear some of the boys say–“when they’re old enough to bleed, they’re old enough to butcher.”
My father when I was 26–“You’re old.”
One of my brothers when I was 34–“When they get to be that age, they take what they can get.”
I had D cups when I was 12…….
I wonder when these guys think the premium age is for men? As far as attractiveness because we all know they think we only like alpha rich men.
I’ll be honest (in regards to the skipping lines thing) I didn’t know one of the clubs I went to charged cover until I went with a guy. I did still have to wait in line though.
@beshemoth
I understood you!
@Marie
I have no idea if your breasts will change or not, which is the point: some do, some don’t. These idiots don’t seem to understand how the bodies they are obsessed with even work.
Reblogged this on EllenBeth Wachs.
Those are very distubing memories, kamilla. Christ.
Well… It’s obvious that the guy over at PUAhate, not only hates PUA’s but also has a foul taste in his mouth towards women. I would bet this is because he never gets laid and if his little dick happens upon a moist vagina by a mere stroke of luck it is with a woman that is way less attractive than his dreamed about woman.
These guys over there are haters of THEMSELVES and no one else! They look to blame the world for their own lack of success. Oh well….
As far as women being attractive well into their 30’s!!!! There are tons of women that still have it at that age!
I would agree that a womans clock is ticking as she climbs up the ladder of age. But to try and say that a woman hits her high point at 24-25 is utter bullshit and truly shows his lack of experience with mature HOT women.
Just my thoughts…
Glennpua.com
Dammit! After years unscathed, I finally fall victim to the blockquote monster!
You see this attitude in parts of the gay (male) community, too. “Death at 30″ refers to the idea that once you hit the big 3-0 you are unfuckable and undatable. I knew a guy who had a back-up husband in case he wasn’t partnered by 30 because he was convinced that any attempt to find someone by then was doomed to failure.
@Glenn P
Fuck off. No one here wants to hear your disgusting thoughts on sex, how much certain people are having it, women, or anything else. You are not welcome here. If your goal is to advertise yourself, continuing to post where you are not welcome is not going to accomplish that goal.
@kamilla
sorry about the jerks you’ve met. :( Also, if you’re old at 26, what does that make your dad :/ Of course, from the context I’m guessing it was just a ‘you’re too old to attract precious menz anymore.’
that is a cute cat. I forgot my first comment when I saw this was that whoever red lined that cat was mean (I mean, I’m assuming it was in a mocking way, but it is so cute!)
Off-topic, but that cat picture is cracking me up.
On-topic, I was naive as a 25-year-old, but I like to think I would’ve been on to one of these guys in a heartbeat. But who knows? When I was 25, I was working as a full-time volunteer in the public schools, hiking around an unfamiliar city, trying to be kind to the kids, trying to figure out my future. I know for a fact that I never set foot in a bar or jumped a line. I was incredibly earnest and idealistic. Oh wait, why am I trying to square reality with these people? Oy.
@Hyena girl, yeah they are a pain. Unfortunately I’ve raised some hackles with this but I’m doing my best to smooth them down, while at the same time not being a walkover.
@Marie, don’t worry, we are the dreaded Feminists and therefore automatically misandrist harridans who don’t deserve the gift of their boners.
And as to assuming I’m older, I am mentally about 45 and have been referred to as an “old soul” by many.
Paraphrased:
I agree that a women’s clock is ticking (the fuck that means?) as she climbs this nice metaphorical ladder of age. I just disagree with what age it is, which makes me better, somehow.
Also paraphrased:
Everyone I don’t like has little dicks, this is how one can tell creepers from non- creepers somehow? It’s horrible to have sex with unattractive chicks, I guess I don’t care if we actually like each other or not. Also, moist is a gross word, imo, use wet instead, so long as you’re being creepy and talking about our vaginas.
@Historophilia
Well, at least as long as I’m a misandric harpy I can avoid them :P
the 21 thing can’t be a coincidence, right? Once a woman is old enough to purchase her own alcohol, these guys lose the only advantage they had and she’s out of reach?
@Buntzums – This is impossible, since feminists regard men, even MRAs, as human beings. Vile, pathetic human beings, yes, but still humans, unlike the way MRAs and PUA dudes think of women.
“I would agree that women’s clock is ticking as she climbs the ladder of age…?”
Clock? Biological clock? As in fertility? ‘Cause otherwise, it sounds like — as a woman ages, she gets older.
Have these guys really convinced themselves that they’re immortal and don’t age?
Jesus, it’s so fucking funny. Don’t they know what happens to their sperm?
@some gal not bored at all….
Wanna grab a drink???
@shiraz
I think it’s more like they think men still stay attractive as they age, but women are only attractive young :/ that’s just my guess on it though.
Tell you what, you should go share them over on PUAhate.com. I don’t think anybody here is really gives a fuck.
Now, I find this kind hilarious:
I mean, here are men who -according to them- can’t get women because they aren’t male-model gorgeous. And this is somehow incredibly unfair. But in the very next breath they’re complaining about how wrinkled/fat/cellulite-ridden/etc., twenty-five year old women are.
Twenty-five.
Too funny.
1: GlennP is a horrible, horrible human being, and he should feel bad every day.
2: “Life after high school is exactly that, a continuation after high school.” This says more about the MRA mindset than almost anything I could type. They literally cannot get over that one time Susie Smith told them to stop staring at her because it was creeping her out, and they assume that since they’re emotionally stunted, everyone else must be, too.
3: Historphilia, politics can suck sometimes. But keep fighting the good fight, and try to make sure potential allies see that you want the same thing overall that they do. Good luck with that.
4: GlennP is still a horrible, horrible human being.
@GlennP
Please go creep somewhere else.
Also, all that is needed is one question mark.
@Freemage
Thanks, and you’re right, they’re the last people I want to fall out with!
Maybe I’ll make them cake or something.
I still plan on making a cake with “Fuck the Patriarchy” written on it :D
@Historophilia
That would be the best cake ever! *wants*
Also, good luck with your college group :) I forgot to say that earlier.
GlenP: no one hear wants your gross thoughts, so fuck off.
That’s not a neg, that’s a direct order.
why do I suspect, that if we used the hexadecimal system, this magical limit would be 0x20 = 32 years?
Hear? No, here.
Arrrgh.
@Marie, I believe it shall be a sponge cake with jam in it and pink icing!
And thanks :) fingers crossed we get ratified, i don’t want to have to fight our student Union all the way, but I will if I have to!
Glenn P – You disgrace our sex. Go crawl back under your rock.
@historophilia
Sounds yummy! I love jam in cakes.
Isn’t the problem that no one wants to fuck the patriarchy? That’s how I hear it from the PUAs… :p
Regarding that cat picture, I can’t help but think that most of those oh-so-worldly PUAs would try to bring a red marker to bed in the unlikely event they get near a naked lady. “Tits too saggy, seem to obey laws of gravity… face exists under makeup, turnoff… vagina is not visible? I thought that was external…”
Whenever I read these things, I really wonder: Why do they think that all guys think women lose all their attractiveness in their 20s? Did they miss the whole “MILF” thing that started in, at the latest, the 90s and never really died out? (I don’t really like that term, but I feel it’s the best I can use to describe the phenomenon.)
Aww, somegal, next he’s going to pull your pigtails!
OMG I negged someone. Icky icky ick.
Seriously, eww.
Hi Marie.
Yeah, this, I know:
“I think it’s more like they think men still stay attractive as they age, but women are only attractive young :/ that’s just my guess on it though.”
It’s one of those sexists tropes that’s survived the old times it was spawned in because it’s a convenient ego buffer for men with low self-esteem.
OMG, PUAs think their technique works because it works on them! Whoa.
OMG, PUAs think their technique works because it works on them!
“‘Fuck off’? Guys, I think she likes me!”
Some Gal, wanna borrow some 90% ethanol for that “drink”? Then when you throw it on him you can also light him on fire. :D
@Glenn P
Fuck off means exactly that. Nice to know that you consider someone’s established boundaries to be something to fuck with rather than respect. That makes it even easier to tell that you are someone we do not want here. I am even less than not interested. Fuck off.
@some gal…
You are obviously a very angry person. I am sure that you have legit reasons. But remember it was you who attacked me and my comment which was actually in favor of not assuming that a woman reaches her high-point of her desirability from men at the age of 25. If I might ask, how old are you?
I love a great debate and only have respect for the opinions of others but the reaction of the people here does you and your cause no justice and only furthers the assumptions of anti-femminists which is in direct conflict with what you are trying so hard to change!
All in all, this is really quite the pack mentality and is truly fun to watch unfold.
And, my offer to go for a drink still stands!
It’s WONDERFUL to know I’ve been dead to these losers for a quarter-century at least* – and even better to know I (like so many) have a man who is a real man**: that is, a loving, lovely, individual, caring and fun person. These tossers are just fail x fail with added fail. Gollum would scorn to be seen in their company.
*assuming I was ever alive, not being a supermodel (even better)
**phrased to dig at them, not to go all gender-essentialist, and to emphasise that whatever the material state, Mr K’s a better human being than they’ll ever be
I find it hilaritragic how frequently they openly talk about how women who have self-esteem won’t fuck them.