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Mike Booth, the guy behind Some Grey Bloke, gave me a great idea for a post (which will be coming soon), so I’m using that as an excuse to post this video of his about the famous Red Pill, which is apparently quite popular outside the manosphere as well as within it. Apparently it comes from an old sci-film from a couple of decades ago called The Matrix?

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Posted on March 11, 2013, in funny, imaginary oppression, somegreybloke, video. Bookmark the permalink. 122 Comments.

  1. Funny that the “women are useless” Red Pill is a reference to a film co-written and co-directed by a woman, isn’t it?

  2. @lowquacks

    The day they realise this will probably be the day they implode with misogyny and transphobia. :(

  3. I loved the first two Toy Story movies, haven’t seen the third yet.

    Haven’t seen any Die Hard, don’t want to. Perversely attracted to Bond films, though, but the one-liners get to be a bit much. My shameful confession is I love most of the title songs.

    I was a substitute teacher for a while. One day, the lesson plan consisted of “show them the Princess Bride.” Indifferent little shits talked all through the movie.

    I liked the LOTR films when I saw them in the theater but now I see a lot of the problems, not only in the films but in Tolkien’s works themselves.

  4. Oh, and I consider it a criminal offense that I did not watch The Iron Giant until 2011. How did I miss that wonderful movie? Also: most gross sobbing occurred.

  5. The Iron Giant is truly a hidden gem. It’s good to think that your twins will get exposed to it much sooner!

  6. I cry even though I know the ending of the Iron Giant.

  7. The kids love the Iron Giant. (Though Coraline is still their favorite, I think.)

    Film isn’t my medium in general, so I know that I won’t see a lot of brill films. (Though I DID see Casablanca recently and really enjoyed it.)

    And yes, it is a source of eye-roll amusement to me that misogynists who use red pill terminology crap use shit lifted from a movie directed in part by a trans woman. And while the Matrix did make us think as a wee teen, by now, we might as well have a freaking degree in Subjective Reality. (When I watched Inception, my initial response was to laugh and want to pat on the characters on the head while going, “Boys, boys–you’re thinking too SMALL.”)

  8. I was in my early twenties when star wars came out. IIRC it was the first blockbuster type film, so it changed the film industry. Also, IIRC, it was the first major sci-fi film since the film 2001 and opened following a ten year drought with no major sci-fi tv or film since the star trek tv series, so it changed movie and tv sci-fi. And, IIRC, it involved the first use of near-realistic special effects. Prior to this we had the japanese and british model makers as well as the stop motion animation, so the film changed special effects. If you were alive at the time, this film was a revelation that jump-started modern film.

    IMHO it was a fun, but not a great film or story.

    And the people who were taking the “Force” seriously were creeping me out.

    The red-pill meme from the matrix appears to be even creepier.

    Though neither is as creepy as the folks that take philosophy from those bodice-rippers written by that russian author… ehhh… rand something.

  9. And the people who were taking the “Force” seriously were creeping me out.

    Not just you. Alec Guinness was seriously creeped out by the people who wrote to him as if he was Obi-Wan. “My wife and I are having problems, could you come and stay with us a few days,” was how he put it in an interview.

  10. @kitteh, did you know Inigo Montoya is now in Criminal Minds

    @Falconer…Iron Giant…sobbed my eyes out. Toy Story 3… sobbed my eyes out. Monsters Inc…sobbed my eyes out. I have seen 2 grown up movies since the kids were born. One was the King’s Speech and the other was Children of Men. Sobbed my eyes out at both.

    I reckon having kids makes the lachrymal ducts a)larger and b)hopelessly sensitive to schmaltz.

  11. “did you know Inigo Montoya is now in Criminal Minds”

    Ehh…sorta. He did the first 1~2 seasons.

    And I liked the first Matrix movie, and then they went and killed what little they had going for them. Then again, I liked Underworld enough to see the fourth one (which is much, much better than the third, but that’s a fairly low bar)

    Lol…Underworld, of course, this happened. And I still can’t remember the main character’s name, she’ll always be Lucita to me (Toreador Lucita *dies of stupid*)

  12. I didn’t know he was in that, I’ve never watched it (only US series I’ve been into in recent decades was ER).

    I loved The King’s Speech! Did you see the documentary The Real King’s Speech? That was very good, too. And you’d never know it from seeing Geoffrey Rush play him, but Lionel Logue was remarkably handsome as a young man – he reminds me of the young Paul Newman.

  13. @Argenti, I knew he wasn’t always in them but Aussie TV programming is so erratic in its broadcasting of non-Aussie shows that you just give up on the concept of seasons and watch what they show you. Hence our growing collection of box sets (Dr Who, Fringe, Supernatural, The Killing (OV), The Walking Dead)

  14. @Kitteh, no I haven’t seen the doco, but I think I researched Lionel Logue after it because i couldn’t believe it was all true. I’m not a monarchist by any means (sorry, Mr K!) but I enjoyed the story telling re a man needing to shoulder a burden he never sought and having to overcome his fears.

  15. Yes, George VI’s really interesting – he had so much to deal with (appalling upbringing, rotten health, his stammer) just to do his jobs as a naval office and royal Duke, which was public whether he liked it or not; having the job of king thrown at him, and at such a time, was a hell of a thing. One reason the Queen Mother never forgave Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson was that she felt they basically killed her husband. I don’t think he would have made old bones, not with his health as it was and his heavy smoking, but the huge stresses of reigning in wartime, even in the very limited role of a constitutional monarch, sure added to his problems. There’s a good bio of him out if that’s your sort of thing; it’s by Sarah Bradford.

  16. BigMomma — I kind of figured that’s what happened, I gave up on a lot of anime thanks to adult swim doing that…plots, how do they work?!

    Also, amazingly on topic! What happens when you combine 9/11 denial; belief in chem-trails, that they’re the cause of global warning, climate change and “now ‘extreme weather'”, also, they’re “artifical clouds”; Polio vaccine as poison that will paralyze (yes I read it three times and am sure that’s what it says); and Sandy was an engineered hurricane?

    If you guessed “Argenti’s latest twitter follower” go have a cookie cuz hot damn is this weird.

    Wonder if it was the feminism (admittedly a bit sparse lately), the trans* activism, #OpThunderbird, Rohingya genocide, or the cute animals…because he’s really not going to last long!

    For the curious, and/or those who have to see it to believe it — https://twitter.com/martinhume

    …wait, that’s not NWO right? Cuz he does fit the profile…

  17. Never mind, NWO isn’t married, and probably wouldn’t claim to be considering his views on women.

    How the fuck did this guy even find me?!

  18. Gad, NWO has a younger brother?

    ::gakkk::

  19. Wasn’t that the screen name one of the more annoying recent trolls was using?

  20. It was Martyn and a surname that lent itself to Fart – Hart? Hare?

  21. Google fu says Hare. Also, dude’s stream is hilarious, I’d be tempted to follow back if he didn’t put Anonymous tweet storms to shame in sheer volume.

  22. Oh, since I had the site specific google up anyways, I tried troll’s claim as to what auto complete suggests for CassandraSays…did you mean Cassandra says?

    Yeah, that’s all, whether I meant what I typed or the grammaritically more logical option. Impressive that!

    Polio vaccines cause paralysis…Polio. Vaccines. Cause. Paralysis…in “useless eaters”… — I couldn’t make this shit up. FYI, polio cases remain lower than the relevant “this time last year” numbers, 22 cases this time last year, 9 so far. Nine…any of the folks old enough to remember polio ever think you’d see under 200 cases a year as the expected total? With serious goals for way less next year? (Actually, if the numbers hold, it’ll be just over 100 this year)

    Ok, my mother’s expecting me to make coffee, can’t go getting misty eyed about eradicating polio!

  23. @Falconer:

    My shameful confession is I love most of the [Bond] title songs.

    Well, I can’t say I’m always impressed or blown away by them.

    Except if Adele’s doing it. If Adele’s doing it then it’s the best thing every and I listen to it constantly because it’s so great and awesome that I just need to hear it about a billion times more.

  24. Except if Adele’s doing it. If Adele’s doing it then it’s the best thing every and I listen to it constantly because it’s so great and awesome that I just need to hear it about a billion times more.

    I’m going to drive my beloved mad one of these days. At least I’m not still on that Tenacious D bender, she couldn’t understand that one at all.

    Hey, maybe I oughta check out what Adele does when she’s working for herself ….

  25. Hey, maybe I oughta check out what Adele does when she’s working for herself ….

    DOOOOOOO IIIIIITTTTTT…

  26. I don’t understand twitter to be honest.
    I have tumblr though.

  27. It’s a bit like tumblr, but with shorter posts. And universal hashtags, idk if tumblr tags always only apply to the tumblr you’re on, but twitter’s always search all of twitter.

    Of course, that’s also how I know that Beiber’s hamster died. Useless info is useless.

  28. @falconer

    I like most of the bond songs too. Similarly related, the only way my sister could convince me to watch mission impossible was because I like the music. I just so don’t care about the mission impossible movies (sorry to anyone who does ;p) They feel like bond movies except more…blah. They did have less bafflingly offensive ones, but they also didn’t have ones I actually liked. Continuing rambling, I made the mistake of letting my dad and his fiance (then girlfriend) convince us to watch the fourth one. The only redeemable things was it had Hawkeye from the Avengers in it and the resident chick (there must only be one!) was rather attractive.

    Everyone’s talking about the Iron Giant, but I haven’t seen it. Now I feel like I’m missing something, if it’s so good ;)

    Inception was pretty blah, imo. It was very predictable, and I didn’t care less, but my mom liked it, and it had decent music, so I’ve seen it twice.

    @argenti artheri

    I liked underworld one and two, but so couldn’t care for the third. Maybe I’ll check out the fourth, if it’s better.

  29. Four is more of um, not-Lucita and Michael, and they finally got that it’s a damned action movie, blow something up. Things you’ll find out from google or five min in — it’s what happens when the masquerade is broken / humans discover vampires and werewolves. Sorry if my wording only sort of makes sense, I really do see it as a movie version of Vampire the Masquerade characters…well sorta, if Lucita has a love interest, it’s Fatima, who is, as you’d guess, female…and another major VtM character is “fuck gender, I can literally remake my form and am going to” (yes I love oWoD)

  30. @argenti aertheri

    Sweet. I guess I’ll check it out then :D

  31. Of course, that’s also how I know that Beiber’s hamster died. Useless info is useless.

    I would feel sorry for Beiber, but he’s a git. And now I have a new name for… something? Beiber’s Hamster.

  32. @Marie:

    Iron Giant is sweet and awesome.

    Mission Impossible is another thing that should not be treated like a series. The first Tom Cruise movie is a fun exercise in film-making by Brian De Palma. It plays with the tropes of a thriller, and generally has a lot of fun with itself while being all super-serious.

    Then the next one is an excellent example of a John Woo movie. It’s practically a remake of every movie he’s ever made. It nods at the Mission Impossible franchise, but it is NOTHING but a John Woo movie.

    And in the same way, the third one is a JJ Abrams movie. It goes so far out of its way to be a JJ Abrams movie that it just… these movies don’t really exist in the same universe.

    So when Brad Bird, the guy who directed The Incredibles was signed on to do the fourth one, I just threw my hands up in the air. There is no continuity or cohesiveness throughout these films. It is a history of fads in hollywood, documented on Tom Cruise’s face.

  33. @howardbann1ster

    Huh. I didn’t like the first one, but I don’t think I liked any of them *shrugs* Of course, it was added on by the fact that Tom Cruise can’t act, and his mannerisms were really getting on my nerves.

  34. @Marie

    Yeah, I totally get that. MI:1 was probably the most toned-down performance I’ve ever seen from him, and it’s still bad enough to drive me up a wall.

    But I was watching it and getting all film-geeky going ‘ooh’ and ‘ahh’ every time De Palma started going wild with the camera. I love that stuff.

    Ohhh, Shutter Island. That was another movie where the plot was thin and the main character wasn’t totally likable and DiCaprio was annoying and I was all ‘SHUT UP SCORSESE IS A GOD GIVEN MORTAL FLESH AND A KICK-ASS CAMERA I LOVE THIS’

    So, y’know. Milage varies!

  35. Millionthing (or whatever) all the Iron Giant love.

    @Argenti

    I really liked the first two Underworld movies, and loved the third. It’s Romeo and Juliet with vampires and werewolves! (I have a crush on Michael Sheen though, so that might have a lot to do with it. Plus, most anything with Bill Nighy hamming it up is enjoyable to me.) That might explain why I was bored by the fourth and kinda glad we didn’t wait for the box set.

    @howardbann1ster

    I love the first Mission: Impossible! It is crazy fun and I am a sucker for heist movies anyway. It doesn’t get a lot of love so it is nice to find someone else who appreciates it. :)

  36. @howardbann1ster

    Yeah, I totally get that. MI:1 was probably the most toned-down performance I’ve ever seen from him, and it’s still bad enough to drive me up a wall.

    huh. Now I’m almost curious enough to watch more movies with him to see how much it bugs me. (I haven’t seen any in a while besides the first mission impossible.)

    @some gal

    YMMV :P

  37. DON’T DOOOOOO IIIIIIITTT!!!

    …in Knight and Day he kind of Shatners it a little, doing this over-the-top version of himself in a way that kind of pokes fun at the very over-the-topness of it all.

    But other than that, it’s all hideous Top Gun smirks all the way down. Even when he’s playing an obsessed depressive with a messiah complex….

  38. @howardbann1ster

    ohmygod I hate his smirks! I cannot stand them! I think I was yelling at him the whole movie :P

  39. I can’t stand Tom Cruise and his “acting” style. I can overlook it in the first M:I, almost overlook it in the second, couldn’t do it in the third, and was distracted enough by Jeremy Renner in the fourth to enjoy the film anyway.

  40. Basically, I only trust Tom Cruise as far as his director in any given film can throw him…

    Like Spielberg. He basically behaves for Spielberg. Basically. The movies they make together come out okay.

    But somebody has to tell him to stop smirking, and I can’t do it from THIS side of the television….

  41. I haven’t seen mission impossible.

  42. Reviews are mixed! Think hard about how much Tom Cruisage you’re willing to forgive in any given movie!

  43. OMGYESIRONGIANTSQUEEE!!!!

    Ahem.

    There are three modern animation directors I gush over: Brad Bird, Chris Sanders, and Mark Dindal. I still haven’t seen MI4 Ghost Protocol, which I hear is actually very good thanks to Brad Bird (on the whole Iron Giant thing…)

    On little known modern animated gems, If you can hunt down “Cats Don’t Dance”, it’s a lot of fun. Same frantic pacing of “Emperor’s New Groove” and “Chicken Little” (same director). Have a lot of hate for Space Jam for killing this movie die to corporate politics, and was sad that Chicken Little didn’t cause WB to revive “Cats Don’t Dance” on DVD the way The Incredibles forced them to revive “Iron Giant”.

  44. Reviews are mixed! Think hard about how much Tom Cruisage you’re willing to forgive in any given movie!

    True words have never been spoken.

    @leftwingfox

    I didn’t care much for MI4, it seemed like they were trying too hard. (that may not make sense, but I think it will when you watch it … XD) Though keep in mind I’m not a huge fan of any of them, so my opinion may be a teensy bit (a lot a bit *cough* tom cruise hate *cough*) biased.

  45. Yeah, I enjoy the Iron Giant, but I’m a sucker for robot-searches-for-meaning stories. Inception I came in with the admonishment, “it’s a heist movie, just think of it as a heist movie,” and was able to enjoy it that way.

    I’m still waiting for one of those movies where people plan a headspace invasion and the twist is that their mark is multi and the system WRECKS them. I mean, a lot of those stories rely heavily on the mark not understanding how their own minds work, while we have our headspace mapped, warded, and guarded. We’re pretty well-armored against SUBCONSCIOUS threats; what would foreign invaders have on that?

  46. I’m still waiting for one of those movies where people plan a headspace invasion and the twist is that their mark is multi and the system WRECKS them.

    I know there’s an Ursula K. Le Guin book where that happens but I can’t remember which one. But that’s exactly what happens: The bad guy’s trying to mind-control the good guy’s main personality, when the other personality ambushes him.

  47. @LBT

    I’m still waiting for one of those movies where people plan a headspace invasion and the twist is that their mark is multi and the system WRECKS them.

    Maybe an indie movie. I figure a mainstream film would deal with it as well as they currently deal with mental illness* (or, let’s face it, any kind of difference, really).
    /pessimism

    *Is this an okay term for me to use? I use mental illness to refer to my bipolar and other DSM categories in general, but it never seems like it fits that well. I know crazy has a lot of baggage and detractors, but I personally think it sounds far better than mental illness. Maybe I am emotionally atypical? Anyway, I don’t want to classify you in a way that you are not comfortable with. Apologies if I did.

  48. @katz

    I know there’s an Ursula K. Le Guin book where that happens but I can’t remember which one. But that’s exactly what happens: The bad guy’s trying to mind-control the good guy’s main personality, when the other personality ambushes him.

    It might be “The Lathe of Heaven”, but I haven’t read Ursula K. Le Guin in decades.

    I should reread her books as well as my other youthful faves Joanna Russ and Jessica Amanda Salmonson.

  49. I’ve only read the first four Earthsea books (loved the first three, hated Tehanu) and Left Hand of Darkness, which I found pretty meh and depressing.

    Has anyone here read Andre Norton’s Catseye? Love that book.

  50. Awesome video.

  51. I’m still waiting for one of those movies where people plan a headspace invasion and the twist is that their mark is multi and the system WRECKS them. I mean, a lot of those stories rely heavily on the mark not understanding how their own minds work, while we have our headspace mapped, warded, and guarded. We’re pretty well-armored against SUBCONSCIOUS threats; what would foreign invaders have on that?

    I guess I would conceptualise each mind as a house, and then have a multi mind conceptualised as a larger house with sort-of suites for each individual? And the invaders would go in and see this house and set up their tools and then they’d wander into different suites and get lost and freaked out by the sheer diversity (one suite is like a gothic victorian playroom, and another like an artists studio, and one’s a nerdcave, for example) and then on top of that it’s full of traps and mindscrews (the person who lives in the Nerdcave set up the cymbal monkey to go as soon as they heard the invaders, for instance – victorian gothic kid thinks it’s cute) and barricades and secret passages. And then the invaders are driven off and the people in the house have a rearrangement of stuff and try to get it back together and have a supportive group hug because having your mind invaded must be traumatising even if you are prepared.

    (This isn’t specifically based off you, LBT, beyond the initial idea.)

    (My house would have monsters that frequently escape from the basement and get driven back by memory-puppets of my special peoples.)

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