Man Boobz Contest: Find the Whiniest, Most Entitled Response to Anita Sarkeesian
From “Damsel in Distress: Part 1 – Tropes vs Women in Video Games.”
So Anita Sarkeesian, who apparently didn’t run off with all her Kickstarter money to found a Misandist Gynarchy in the wilds of Canada, has released the first video in her Tropes vs Women in Video Games project. (I’ve embedded it below.)
Naturally, this is causing great consternation in certain corners of the Internet (*cough* Reddit *cough cough* everywhere else that misogynistic nerds congregate *cough*). In the Man Boobz forum, Katz has started a contest to see who can find “the whiniest, brattiest, most entitled response” to Sarkeesian’s video on the Internet. So far Katz and Myoo have found a couple classic comments from irate Sarkeeianaphobes:
[H]ow does one go about stating that genders and gender roles are social constructs? I mean is evolution nothing to her? Does the patriarchy make male peacocks dress provocatively?
Yes. Yes it does.
And:
I’m gradually losing respect for the opposite sex. I’ve unfollowed people on tumblr who talk about how great she is, because it actually causes bile to rise in to my throat.
Yeah, that’s a totally reasonable response to a woman making a video about video games.
So anyway, I’m thinking we should bring the contest over here.
See what you can find! Consider it a sort of scavenger hunt.
Here’s my contribution, from the Men’s Rights subreddit, complaining that Damsels in Distress are the truly privileged ones:
Amazingly, this acutally got called out on r/mr as being pretty damn stupid.
Also, I have another question, to add to the stack of other questions I’ve been asking lately: Just why do you think so many guys get so angry when girls and women invade what they consider a male sphere, like gaming? (Also, why do they consider gaming to belong to boys and men?)
Oh, and here’s the video that’s causing all this hubbub:
Posted on March 9, 2013, in all about the menz, antifeminism, are these guys 12 years old?, david has questions, drama kings, entitled babies, evil women, evo psych fairy tales, harassment, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, reddit, ShitRedditSays and tagged anita sarkeesian, tropes vs women. Bookmark the permalink. 1,073 Comments.
Scoliosis = yep. Once had a chest x-ray after a positive skin TB test (a story for another time) and the tech…well no signs of TB, but, um, did you know…that my spine looks like a slinky? Yes.
Melody — unless you’re still growing idk why anyone would suggest a brace, afaik they’re only to prevent it from getting worse. To just make you stand up straighter and stop stressing your poor twisted muscles, the standard fare supports can work *plugs corsets, again* or kitteh’s aforementioned back brace.
Things I advise against — leaning your elbow on your hip on your “concave” side. If you have any painkiller advise for “holy shit does it hurt when ribs hit each other” I’m all ears!
Seranvali — too bad about your heels (and, of course, the broken leg that sparked giving them away), at least you know they found a good home.
Kitteh — yeah I get a bit irked about mocking Mr. Al’s “morning height” as I legit have a morning height (granted it’s no more than a half inch, but it’s a thing…and I rounded up on my ID!)
Melody — glad your feeling better, and as soon as I hit post it occurred to me that my question about bracing could come off as disagreeing with your doctor(s) — I am neither an expert, nor up to date on info, so what I said doesn’t apply if your doctor(s) suggested it. If not though, I wouldn’t worry about it.
My doctor pushed for it a about a year ago, but has given up on convincing me. There are other suggestions, but my doctor isn’t going to push for them unless my spine gets worse. Apparently, it hasn’t warped more (according to my last xrays anyway). Of course I am now in the process of finding a new doctor closer to where I live so perhaps a new one will push for action.
And I have very high pain tolerance (probably as a result of my Scoliosis).
I have so many stories of me not noticing things and them getting worse: walking on a dislocating knee, breaking my ribs and going out to horseback ride ect.
I rounded down on my ID…….I wish I was shorter.
@Some Gal: They’re doing great. They have really big appetites and … offloads to match.
Everybody who sees them falls in love with them.
I will admit to a bit of ZOMG TWINS!! fatigue. Have I mentioned my fraternal twin brother before? So I grew up with ZOMG TWINS!! and when someone today is all did you know you have twins? I worry that I don’t muster enough enthusiasm and come off as not a loving father.
What will save you from Daleks then? There are only so many sofas!
Good luck with your new doctor! And congrats on the not getting worse!
“And I have very high pain tolerance (probably as a result of my Scoliosis).
I have so many stories of me not noticing things and them getting worse: walking on a dislocating knee, breaking my ribs and going out to horseback ride ect.”
So is that it…I once decided it was easier to just shift my weight than get a broken toe set, cuz hey, if I put more weight on my heel it didn’t even hurt. Ditto when I accidentally ripped out a toe nail (holy shit did that hurt at first though! Thank the gods it was sandal weather!)
Big toes both times too. Fuck, I took Advil after my wisdom teeth came out, I had a knock you on your ass painkiller script but it didn’t hurt so much as *mummble mummble bloody mess*
“Pain, what’s pain, besides ‘back, oh gods no, you’re evil, stop spasming!'” Fist bump?
Falconer — you have newborns, 24/7, they get to gawk for mere minutes. Anyone who gives a shit that you can’t be arsed to muster enthusiasm should try dealing with an infant, even just for a few hours, forget overnight. You have a free pass on “fuck this I can’t bring myself to care”.
And daleks can LEVITATE now, so um…blast proof doors? Filling a bunker with concrete? The Bad Wolf? Hm, yep, Rose, repeatedly.
@cloudiah
Their rant is icky. Do I call things icky too often? I mean, with mras it’s usually true.
@some gal
Sorry about the stairs :( Our apartments have some on the first floor (idk how they all work) but they’re also twenty dollars more per month, which is a pain in the ass and they aren’t always available (and not everyone can probably afford it :/). Luckily my mom was able to spend the extra money on the first floor, which is good because my sister has fibromalgia (sp?).
@melody
it was a good quote. Glad to hear you’re feeling better, too :)
@falconer
Twin buddies! I have a twin sister who is (probably) identical to me. We never tested for it but everyone mixes us up. Sorry you’re getting fatigued by it though :( But babies sound really energy taking, so hopefully people aren’t being jerks about it.
re: braces. I really wish I could get a brace for my back. But it’s so hard to find ones for upper back, most are for lower back. :/
@Falconer
I can see how all the ZOMG TWINS would be exhausting in its own right. I’m sure your twins will get their fill of it without you joining in too much. :)
I am glad to hear they are doing well.
@Marie
Sorry to hear about your sister, but glad to hear that you could get the first floor. Other than for my fibromyalgia, I like being on higher floors, but I guess if they can charge extra for the first floor, there are a lot of fellow stair-haters out there. *Joins Argenti in Down with Stairs chant*
Our current apartment has an elevator which means I’ve only used the stairs once (stupid fire alarm). :)
@melody
Glad you are feeling better and I hope your headache goes away soon!
@some gal
Thanks :) Glad to hear the place your in now has an elevator.
Oh man, when it comes to foot pain and shoes, I could write a book. I’m a huge “barefoot” proponent (though not one of those obnoxious ones who is like, “It works for everyone and fixes everything no matter what!!!”…ya gotta do what works for you) because it has allowed me to keep running. I have flat feet, pronate badly and developed plantar fasciitis to the point that I had to quit entirely for a few years, until my dad got me a pair of Vibrams 5Fingers for the holidays one year. Now I’m doing my first marathon in May if all goes well. :D
I can hike or run in them all day without a problem. I do a lot of trail running (I like to be able to take my pack of dogs with me and let them off-leash when I train) and it used to drive me nuts feeling every pebble or rock on the trail (especially when you land on the narrow edge of one LOL), but you get used to it quick.
The crazy thing is that I don’t pronate anymore and have actual arches now, as the muscles in my feet have gained strength and literally pulled my feet up. I grew up in the desert so we pretty much never went barefoot, so they were incredibly atrophied. My feet look different and have actually gone down about a size.
I’m a wilderness search dog handler and we’re required to wear heavy traditional hiking boots when working and my feet always feel weird at the end of those days, but I still notice less ankle and foot pain than I used to have–probably because even with orthotics (which I used to use, but don’t anymore), rigid hiking boots aren’t exactly the best for foot pain.
I don’t wear heels or anything either…pretty much live in comfy flat sandals, “barefoot shoes” or hiking boots. For the most part, if I’m not able to wear one of the three, I don’t want to go. ;) Plus I’m 5’9″ and my partner is 5’6″ so I’m already visibly taller than him, on the rare occasions I’ve worn heels next to him it just feels awkward to kiss or hold hands or anything like that.
Um, sorry for the long post…trying to go barefoot is something that a lot of people with foot pain never consider because it goes against most conventional wisdom about the causes of foot pain, but it has helped me immensely and helped a lot of other people I’ve met as well. My podiatrist even agreed it had totally turned my feet around, though he was against it when I first brought it up as a possibility. ;) All of our bodies are different of course and there are a lot of factors going into it, but if your feet are hurting even with custom orthotics and all that good stuff, might be something to consider.
Amusing how those responses already start to backfire like the original harassment she had to endure.
btw, have you seen Anita’s research material? I’m a bit jealous. :-D
More reasons that stairs should step up their game.
This is the thread for stairs and bad puns, right? :)
@AK
yay! glad to hear your feet have gotten better. :D
@some gal
I always love puns (well, love them or hate them, but with puns it’s almost the same thing XD). Sadly I can’t think of them very well.
@Marie
Probably every single pun I have ever thought of, I’ve immediately used. I just can’t resist them. :)
I warned you about stairs, bro!!!!
@Argenti Aertheri *fist bump* :D
I still have a headache even after all other symptoms have stopped. Pain medication is proving highly ineffective.
@AK
My old roommate went barefoot all the time. He thought it was a good thing for everyone. I ignored him for the most part. When I was little I wandered barefoot constantly, but I grew out of it.
I wear heels occasionally, but mostly I’m a ballet flat girl.
@Marie and Some Gal
I live in a basement apartment. Which has the perk of nobody being below me, but no light and stairs.
That’s really interesting about the barefoot shoes, AK. Only time I’ve seen someone wearing them, I noticed her feet were really pronating, and I thought “Wow, you’re letting yourself in for trouble.” Didn’t occur to me she might be wearing them to fix just that trouble, ‘cos I didn’t know it could work that way.
Unfortunately I couldn’t use them. First, my orthotics are for correcting leg length; going without throws my hips and spine out. Second, my feet are very sensitive, and walking on stones or bumpy pavements or sticks in the grass or burning hot pavements (FUCK SUMMER) hurts like hell, and the blister-causing friction if I don’t have stockings or socks on is even worse.
On an unrelated clothing note (because why not) I have caved and am wearing a short tunic and leggings today. I blame Manboobz.
@melody
no lights at all? Or what? Sorry if this is nosy, I’ve just never heard of a basement apartment.
And related, but I’m glad my mom got first floor apartments (we’ve had two so far) because 1) of my sister’s joints and 2) on the note of having people below you, since I pace a lot, I’m getting the feeling if someone was below me they’d hate us XD
I have lights. I have lamps and whatnot, but my apartment is below ground (that is what a basement apartment is). So, you know how you might have a patio or a big window looking outside? I don’t have those things.
I dance when I’m stressed. And my job is stressful so I dance more nowadays. I really should get back into a ballet class, but it seems like a waste of time because I’m too top heavy.
Kk. Thanks for answering :) I was just a little confused when you said you had no lights.
Does being top heavy make ballet harder? I’ve never done any before, so I have no clue.
The Brits know how to do basement flats (prolly kitchens originally, they’re in Victorian buildings) – they’re below street level, but have “the area,” a little space reached by steps, so you can have windows and a separate sub-street level door. Mum and I stayed in one last time we visited London.
I live in one of them. We have a small yard out front and back (when I say small I mean about 6×5 foot out back, 10×5 out front), so we have full-length windows and glass doors there. I was a bit skeptical at first but we get plenty of light, and since we have no one below us, a shop above us and we’re lower than the house next to us there’s no noise from neighbours and no one to complain when we have parties :D
We did have a problem with damp, which is really common in basement flats, but a dehumidifier has solved that problem.
Insulated from neighbours – bliss!
Are you insulated when the weather gets hot? (Stop laughin’, I know you get hot summers over there.)
I wish we had flats like that here, but alas, no.
Oh, how’s the tattoo healing, too?
It can get a bit stuffy during summer, but the doors and windows are quite big so we just whack them open or go sit in the yard (best thing EVAH about working from home). The weather is being really odd. We had 4 inches of snow on Monday night, and since yesterday the skies have been bright blue and it actually looks like spring. Tattoo’s fine, still a bit itchy but seems to have healed quite well, it actually looks proper now. And I’m starting to get used to it. I’ll be seeing my dad in a couple of weeks though, that might be interesting…
@thenatfantastic
That sounds awesome. I love apartments to feel more isolated. Sadly my mom doesn’t and it’s her apartment I’m in XD
Sarkeesian works for EA. In her videos she trashes EA’s competitors.
Congratulations, on falling for corporate propaganda disguised as “socialjusticeblahblah”.
Again.
For those of you who donated to her, you just paid a company schill.
Idiots.
Shut up, Joe.
Requesting permission to troll Joe using other things abbreviated to EA.
Joe, am I still supporting Nazis by refusing to just accept the gender role assigned to my apparent biology?
In completely other things, the non-custom part of my timbuk2 order should arrive tomorrow *finally ordered a proper messenger bag and organizing bits*
Joe: where did you get that she works for EA? You may want to adjust your tinfoil.
Ah, Joe.
How’s the houseboat, dude? Still comfy?
CIA
Whoops, sorry.
PS: want to hear the first joe go on at length about why islamophobia isn’t a thing? He goes on for several pages here.
I think I tried to engage with him on that thread. Simpler times, etc.
Whoa there, Hellkell. Just because the dude thinks spelling out CIA is a good way to get their attention doesn’t mean we should make tinfoil jokes!!!
A google search shows that they decided she works there at the Spearhead, so that’s probably where he got this bon mot.
Elsewhere I see reports that they paid her to give a talk or a series of talks to their employees, possibly as a way to try to be less sexist. Nothing official-looking, but it sounds rather more believable.
@Argenti
I love messenger bags! Congrats on yours! (I also love giant purses that can function as messenger bags!)
@First Joe
Congratulations on being so much better than the rest of us. (We are congratulating each other on things that aren’t true, right?)
@howardbann1ster
Nonsense, the most ridiculous, convoluted, contrary-to-the-way-the-world-works answer is probably the correct one. That is also how I know that you and I are the same person, David, and “we” create these threads and all the comments from our feminazi base on Mars.
In true EA news, the boyfriend is getting a new computer and I will be able to play The Sims 3 on it. I am excited. (Also, there is one base game plus expansion pack that is cheaper than the same expansion lack alone. :) Also, digital downloads cost more than mailing me a physical copy because of nonsense reasons.) Although I am leaning toward the cheaper one, are there any recommendations from people who play The Sims 3 on what my first expansion pack should be? (I think the cheapest one is Supernatural?)
Joe, what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense, and it wouldn’t make any sense even if Sarkeesian worked for EA (and I’m not seeing any compelling evidence that she does). Her analysis of the tropes themselves is compelling and matches that of many other people, and does not depend in any way on where those tropes appear. The damsel in distress has the same cultural and sociological impact whether she is in an EA game, a competitor’s game, a movie, or any other kind of media.
Now, if she worked at EA and deliberately excluded EA games from her examples in order to shield the company from criticism, or if she were to make excuses for their use of these harmful tropes when she would not make a similar excuse for a competitor’s game, then that would demonstrate bias on her part. But it still wouldn’t make her judgment of the tropes themselves any less accurate.
Gamers have caught onto Anita’s schilling for EA / EA’s pathetic attempts to bolster their market share through her political bullshit.
And gamers are not buying it.
http://mundanematt.tumblr.com/post/32469219836/v-breaks-down-just-how-ea-dice-are-using-anita
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/TheKodu/the-sarkeesian-the-dice-and-the-mirror–235992.phtml
Of course if Sarkeesian – or any feminist activist were genuinely creative and innovative then she / they would have the ability to create their own politically correct feminist games and make a commercial success of them. The absence of feminist games tells us she and they don’t have that ability, nor the will to invest the work required – and/or not enough people want to buy / play that shit.
So, instead feminists criticise and attempt to politicise an art form which they have no ability to create in. Again.
Here’s a thought: Imagine if Sarkeesian and her ilk succed.
What will happen if all the millions of people who are sick to fucking death of feminism get their means of escapism cut off? Let’s say all computer games get watered down, so instead of being fantasy esacpism, instead they’re politically correct…
I’ve watched with interest the political “live rails” that *really* get the mob going.
They moved to try and tax pasties and increase booze prices in UK recently. There was rage. EU feminists tried to ban all porn.
http://news.msn.com/world/eu-decides-not-to-ban-all-porn
Imagine if people didn’t have junk food, booze, porn and fantasyland computer games where they can chop up / shoot / explode stuff – and forget about how completely fenced-in they are in real life.
Take away the bread and circuses and the mob wakes up.
Look how well that went for the tyrants in North Africa.
@First Joe
All of your points have already been addressed (one of them directly above you, and you aren’t whining enough to hope to win the contest.
Disappointing performance from our forgettable return troll.
They can make their own.
Lololol.
Then I guess they’ll have to invest in Reynolds aluminum like you apparently do.
Get over yourself.
@Kitteh, I’m living in York at the moment because I’m at the University of. And I’m studying History so as you can imagine I’m firmly on team York Minster when it comes to Richard III.
We actually had a lecturer have a bit of a rant about in one lecture a few weeks ago. About how Richard would never have wanted to be buried in Leicester. He had very little connection with it, but he was married at York Minster and his son is buried there.
I think Leicester are really hoping to keep him as a tourist attraction, as no offence to Leicester but they haven’t got much else going for them. York however has ALL the history and ALL the pretty buildings medival, victorian and georgian buildings and cobbled streets and city walls.
Basically everyone should visit York because it is gorgeous and full of history. However we do tend to be flooded semi-regularly because the river Ouse (pronounced Ooze) runs through it.
Also we have ALL the ducks and geese. Though they mainly live on the University campus.
Sorry Joe, it’s a nice effort but you’re just going to have to step up your game if you want to win.
So men are a violent mob that needs pacifying with fantasies about killing things or else they’ll actually start killing things.
Wow, First Joe really hates men.
Millions of people? All playing fantasy games to escape feminism? I’ve been playing fantasy games for a while now with people of all genders, but I can’t say I’ve ever heard that reason for gaming before. That’s some pretty crappy gaming motivation right there.
I didn’t know these things were mutually exclusive. So if there’s a fantasy game that doesn’t objectify women or marginalize minority groups, you can’t escape into it? Killing dragons and ancient skeleton warriors just doesn’t have any bite unless you’re allowed to be a prejudiced prick? Methinks you’re less worried about video games being “ruined” and more concerned about being allowed to be an asshat.
@the first joe
Ok, someone correct me if I’m wrong, because I don’t know what he’s talking about that happened in North Africa, but it seems kind of skeevy to be comparing something that happened in real life (that I’m assuming was more serious) to the fact he might loose his video game porn.
So I’ve learned my lesson about trying to engage First Joe, who apparently couldn’t be bothered to read the 8 responses left for him in the day between his fist comment and his second.
@ Do Re: I’ve only been aware of this site and reading it for a couple days now, and have been “enjoying” (not really enjoyable, but interesting, are the articles) myself very much. For the most part, what comments I have read have been fine enough. They haven’t so far seemed to be hijacked by bitter trolls and the like, so that’s good. And the rest of the comments have been more or less thoughtful and such. But what I’m seeing in the comments on this post is pretty disappointing. I’ve gone through four to five pages of comments, scrolled down and scanned each page, and so far, the majority of the comments seem to be a damn conversation about SHOES. Frustrating, but also kind of funny, because it’s such a cliche’! Instead of focusing on the topic at hand, which I find to be extremely interesting and even important, as I am a female gamer and have been since the age of twelve, there’s an extended back and forth about SHOES!!! Grrr.
Now, the reason for the reply being to you is because, in the midst of the mass of shoe-talk, I’ve read a few that so far seem to be you defending yourself against some lady (I assume, I mean, c’mon) who jumped on your case for using the word “female” instead of “woman”, because, to HER, it is too clinical sounding or some such nonsense. Your comments that I’ve read so far seem to be completely polite and sensible. I just scrolled up to read some more to inform myself further for this reply to you and found this:
“No need, I’ll leave, the only thing this place has done is confirm the behaviours the MRA ascribes to women. Don’t worry, I would never tar all women with the brush you provide, but obviously trying to change my ways and all it’s best not to interact with women that perfectly epitomise everything the MRA says about women. If I don’t give you special privileges I’m a misogynist, that’s ridiculous. I just hope less women share this view than the MRA would have you believe.”
That bums me out, but I don’t blame you in the least. I was thinking to myself “Geez, FEMALE, way to be a nitpicky nag and rude this guy out of here!” I would advise you, if you are trying to change your ways (unless you’re a total dickhead, why should you?), please DO NOT pay any mind to this female. I share the same gender as she but other than that I havenothing in common. Such behavior on her part is off-putting and disappointing to me as well. Sadly, yes, she DOES epitomise everything MRAs bitch and moan about, but in my experience, she’s not the norm. She’s the female equivalent of an MRA. Again, from the FEMALE team or whatever, I apologize on her behalf. It really irked me to have some stranger jump all over another stranger about the use of the word FEMALE to describe a FEMALE! SMH. Especially on a site like this, which, at least where the actual articles is concerned, is great for bringing up necessary conversations. Too bad this conversation has had page after page drowning in talk about SHOES. SHOES, people!
No, and MRA jerk didn’t hijack the conversation, but something entirely different BUT JUST AS LAME, did. Sorry, dude. Er, MALE. Sorry entire world! The internet is so often a sad irritation at least.
I’m late to the game but youtuber ” Joshua Allan spammed the shit out of the comments section of an (also bad) youtube response of this partner called MrRepzion. I was reading down trying to comment but I kept being bombarded with this nonsense about his boner and PETA. It was so annoying. And I was replied to way too quickly and aggressively with nonsensical replies that I just gave up. But at least I can share this gem with anyone who checks back
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=la9i2np0WTU (find “Joshua Allan” for all 82 of his bizarre comments)
@Pentapus1024 Bless, did we talked about things that interested us rather than you? OMG, have we let the sisterhood down by talking about SHOES?!
As for the use “females”, go read Feminism101 before accusing one of us of being a “nitpicky nag and rude”.
In other words, weak tone trolling. Try harder.
@Jessay That is a gem – he could have summarised the whole four paragraphs of screed as “waaah, my boner!”
@titanblue there was a point where he actually devolved into, and this is a direct quote,
*delurks for a moment*
It isn`t too hard to imagine a world without video game escapism since there was in fact a world without video games in the not so distant past. What an utterly stupid troll.
@Pentapus1024 (who is probably long gone but eh):
Maybe it’s worth asking yourself why other women talking about shoes and taking pleasure from it bothers you so.
Hey Pentapus: nice case of Special Snowflake you got there.
So sorry (not really) the convo isn’t up to your high standards, but this is a community. Too bad you hate to see people getting along.
Perhaps this isn’t the place for you.
Temple and Arch, Pentapus is a special snowflake.
I suggest that you guy and lie in the sun outside, you’ll melt and leave us all alone.
Speaking of Temple and Arch, has anyone been listening to the radio dramatization of Neverwhere on BBC Radio recently?
Top anyone who hasn’t, I heartily recommend it, the cast is incredible (James McAvoy, Natalie Dormer, David Harewood, Sophie Okonedo, Benedict Cumberbatch, Christopher Lee, Bernard Cribbens) and the voice acting is brilliant. Benedict Cumberbathc as the Angel Islington and Sophie Okonedo as Hunter are brilliant.
Seriously this cast is just so perfect, I want a TV mini-series with them all.
You can stream it off the BBC website from anywhere in the world so you could all listen to it.
So I’m just remembering that this was a CONTEST, but David doesn’t appear to have declared a WINNER. Harumph.
Yeah, but you just know the reward was conceptual. Friendship!! (link SFW, despite being Oglaf)
historophilia, that sounds AMAZE.
This is a pretty funny conclusion to a conversation, This man apparently has an issue with reading comprehension. Oh youtube.
Shame on us for talking about shoes. If we were as awesome as Pentaprat we wouldn’t need shoes, since snowflakes don’t have feet.
Laughed very loud on the bus.
And shame on us for daring to suggest that calling women “females” is demeaning. Oh, the snowflakism of not needing to be included in the human species if doing so upsets the poor delicate menz!
Bagelsan it is amazing, I have now developed a major voice crush on Sophie Okonedo.
It’s just so… husky…
Did drive-by troll spend all those words whining about someone saying you use male and female or man and woman, not man and female? Seriously?
Oh right, and shoes, sorry. Should the welcome package include shoes?
If you give me a budget I will pick out perfect shoes for all newbies.
I saw the best pair of boots this morning – knee high at least, deep green polished boots, the feet shaped like formal riding boots. Sadly I couldn’t wear them, but they were to die for.
These are the ones I wear to kick around in when I want to be goth and girly but I don’t want to risk messing up my nice purple suede boots.
http://www.dsw.com/shoe/diba+new+cee+cee+24416+pleated+boot?prodId=195463
Since it’s bugging pentapus I figure I’ll talk about shoes too (I think I was talking about them earlier here anyway XD) I just got some nice flats, kind of cute. I saw these amazing heels which were pink with little black bows and sticthing on them but I couldn’t walk in the ;_;
I just went shoe shopping this weekend, so um yay?
Actually I have to thank pentapus and people like her for helping me to fully embrace my femmey tendencies. After a while their internalized misogyny and pathetic begging for scraps of approval from any man who’d listen were so embarrassing to watch that it made me realize how stupid the whole idea that femininity is bad was.
Aw man, I’m useless for talking about shoes. :( All my knowledge about them is orthopedic shit, and few people outside that profession care much about THAT.
Though I’m kinda surprised that I somehow missed all this shoe talk from you guys. Thought we were about CATS. Did I miss the Hive Mind newsletter again?