Man Boobz Contest: Find the Whiniest, Most Entitled Response to Anita Sarkeesian
From “Damsel in Distress: Part 1 – Tropes vs Women in Video Games.”
So Anita Sarkeesian, who apparently didn’t run off with all her Kickstarter money to found a Misandist Gynarchy in the wilds of Canada, has released the first video in her Tropes vs Women in Video Games project. (I’ve embedded it below.)
Naturally, this is causing great consternation in certain corners of the Internet (*cough* Reddit *cough cough* everywhere else that misogynistic nerds congregate *cough*). In the Man Boobz forum, Katz has started a contest to see who can find “the whiniest, brattiest, most entitled response” to Sarkeesian’s video on the Internet. So far Katz and Myoo have found a couple classic comments from irate Sarkeeianaphobes:
[H]ow does one go about stating that genders and gender roles are social constructs? I mean is evolution nothing to her? Does the patriarchy make male peacocks dress provocatively?
Yes. Yes it does.
And:
I’m gradually losing respect for the opposite sex. I’ve unfollowed people on tumblr who talk about how great she is, because it actually causes bile to rise in to my throat.
Yeah, that’s a totally reasonable response to a woman making a video about video games.
So anyway, I’m thinking we should bring the contest over here.
See what you can find! Consider it a sort of scavenger hunt.
Here’s my contribution, from the Men’s Rights subreddit, complaining that Damsels in Distress are the truly privileged ones:
Amazingly, this acutally got called out on r/mr as being pretty damn stupid.
Also, I have another question, to add to the stack of other questions I’ve been asking lately: Just why do you think so many guys get so angry when girls and women invade what they consider a male sphere, like gaming? (Also, why do they consider gaming to belong to boys and men?)
Oh, and here’s the video that’s causing all this hubbub:
Posted on March 9, 2013, in all about the menz, antifeminism, are these guys 12 years old?, david has questions, drama kings, entitled babies, evil women, evo psych fairy tales, harassment, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, reddit, ShitRedditSays and tagged anita sarkeesian, tropes vs women. Bookmark the permalink. 1,073 Comments.
@some gal
Thanks for bringing those up :D Sadly, I’m probably going to need to get an income before I go shoe shopping, since my mom can only afford to get me cheap ones.
@hellkell
I’ll have to tell my mom to look out for them. She loves outlets and will plan vacations around them sometimes. :)
The fact of the matter is that laws like that don’t get passed because a small fraction of the population agrees. Iceland by the way is TINY (population wise). A majority of women and MEN support these laws.
Did you read their arguments on the trauma their studies have indicated children suffer from viewing certain types of pornography?
The ban has been around awhile.
As far as European proposal…there is no chance that will be passed into law. There is not support for it.
And as I stated earlier. Women watch porn too. Feminists watch porn too.
I’m home today because I am maxed out on vacation leave so last week my boss gave me a stern lecture about needing to take more time off. (I’m a bit of a workaholic.) I have a feeling I’m going to be doing some serious shoe shopping today. :D
Kyle Payne’s coming for you!
I may scrap the plan to get the boots with the weird taupe trim (since I already have too many high heeled platform boots) and get the Thai silk flats instead. I don’t actually own any flats that aren’t either a sandal or a sneaker.
Size 4 feet (well 3.5 but extra wide sooo …) and having small feet means heels put your feet at an excrutiating angle so I tend more towards flats.
I bought a pair of these, this winter. Furry lined and sooooo comfortable. And although in a sale, still painfully expensive but I’m subscribing to the Samuel Vimes theory of boots. Actuallly, I lie, I fell in love with them.
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/281073871637?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&adtype=pla&crdt=0
Of course, I’m sulking because you had a “shoes and men we lust after” thread while my wi-fi was down. Cannot believe I’m late to this thread!
Those silk flats are lovely.The colour is incredible.
@ melody
huh. I didn’t know that. Is it like when children accidently stumble across it? feel free to ignore this, btw, since I’m pretty sure there were links to things,I’m just thinking out loud.
To put my friend’s tiny feet into context for Brits, a British 5 is an American 7 (or 8, depending), so an American 4 is a British 2 or possibly even smaller.
Tries again
Ok, sorry to doublepost – first one came up as an error initially. *scowls at internet*
I’m rather fond is Jason Momoa, which is odd because big muscly guys aren’t usually my cup of tea. He’s awfully pretty, though.
” Research has also shown that children in Iceland are first exposed to pornography at the average age of 11. In some instances, children have been dramatically affected by it, and symptoms include social isolation and anxiety. There have also been reported cases of teenage boys re-enacting pornographic sexual acts on younger children. Finally, violent pornography is influencing teenagers’ first sexual experiences.””
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/02/28/173187642/icelands-plan-to-ban-online-porn-spurs-outrage
I am so conflicted. I have a thread and two of my regulars are fighting and they want me to sides. I don’t think either is wrong in their thinking, but if I say that I think both parties will be offended. Ah…well.
Oh he was the Khal Drogo guy, right? Yeah, a little to muscly for me, but you’re right that he is pretty.
@cloudiah
I love the penguin boots. They remind me a little of Zoo Shoes, which I had when I was small. Google has failed me on a picture (and crashed my browser) so I can only describe them. They were kids’ slip-on shoes that had a big animal head on the front that velcroed the shoe closed. I had a koala pair and maybe lions? I wish they made them for grown-ups. I would totally wear them today.
The thing that gets me about pornography is that I know a lot of the people working in porn are exploited, so that is always kind of in the back of my mind. It’s my union background. I want to know that they’re being paid a living wage, and getting health benefits and a retirement plan.
@melody
thanks for posting the quote.
re: hot guys. I feel weird, everyone else thinks they’re too muscly. I tend to find big mucles on girls attractive. *shrugs*
I still have a thing for James Morrison as TC McQueen in Space Above & Beyond. Sigh.
@Cassandra: You are history’s greatest monster.
@Cloudiah: PENGUINBOOTSOMGZMUSTHAVE
@Some Gal: The RocketDog ones? I find them pretty comfortable, but if you have issues with pain you might find them a bit restrictive.
@Marie: Hope you find some soon!
…did I miss anyone?
Yep, Khal Drogo. He’s even prettier out of costume, though.
@thenatfantastic
Yeah, the Rocket Dog ones. I figured they probably would be, but was hoping somehow they would be extra-super-comfy despite how they look. Oh well, it is still fun to look. :)
Yeah, sorry :( The soles are pretty squidgy but the toes and upper are quite tight.
The 6 to 8 inch heels are weird, but they have been mainstreamed in California (or at least where I live.) I feel downright sadistic trying not to laugh while watching an under 5-feet tall woman walk in 6-inch heels.
I always liked the combat boots with skirt look. To my old eyes, fashionable combat boots look odd (not bad, just odd.) Your grandmothers wore actual combat boots as a punk fashion and they walked 10 miles in the snow to watch their fave punk band. ;)
I cannot believe the number of people with foot pain here. I have lived with chronic foot pain for over three decades and never met anyone else with those symptoms. My docs have concluded that I have a wonky nervous system and have been giving me happy pills for over 20 years (currently: cymbalta and bupropion)
Yum.
Come for the shoe shopping advice, stay for the tips on which actors are prettiest! Or the other way around. Whatever, as long as it’s not another lengthy grudge wank.
I love a really feminine dress and combat boots. So much fun.
Hope this link works. Another weird shoe: a pump that grows into a boot?
http://zapp.me/8021820?utm_term=SKU-8021820&utm_campaign=zappos_product_share_ipad&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=email&splash=none
That looks like you should be able to unzip and remove the boot part.
…ugly.
And I like purple…..
Those boots are too damn expensive to be that fug.
I went onto Zappos and sorted women’s boots by most expensive. I find that often uncovers some of the weirdest/ugliest shoes. There were a bunch of those ones with no heel too.
@cloudiah
those shoes are kind of ugly. Though I guess some people may think they’re ugly cute.
But speaking of expensive, I kind of liked these (obviously not at this price though):
http://zapp.me/8159094?utm_term=SKU-8159094&utm_campaign=zappos_product_share_ipad&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=email&splash=none
holey moley those are expensive! I think they’re kind of cute, but I wouldn’t buy them above thirty, must less 1000.
*much less not must less
That is ridiculously straightforward for Yamamoto. Usually the stuff is very minimal, but with odd draping and unusual shapes.
@joanimal
I am currently in withdrawal for Cymbalta! I am sorry that you, too, have foot pain. I don’t know anyone offline who has foot pain who has it from anything but a wonky nervous system, but we all have slightly different symptoms. Nervous systems go wonky in the most interesting (and aggravating and painful) ways!
I think it was CassandraSays who mentioned that feet are just super sensitive during our stepping-on-things convo and I think that might be why wonky nervous systems go for the feet (other areas too, but it seems like feet get hit hardest/worst) and hands, but hands get so much more done to them. /random thought that might not make sense
I quite like some of the Y3 sneakers, though there’s no way I’d pay Y3 prices for them.
I sort of forgot I was browsing in the expensive section and clicked on them and thought “Those are kind of nice” and then I looked over at the price and thought “Holy shit WTF?”
@cloudiah
The first pair look like what Catwoman wears when she has a board meeting.
Me too. I see them sometimes at Nordstrom Rack, but even at reduced prices it’s a non-starter.
I’d feel like I was wearing a pet:
http://zapp.me/8017309?utm_term=SKU-8017309&utm_campaign=zappos_product_share_ipad&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=email&splash=none
Those are awful! And brown! They make me angry with their unapologetic pedestrian UGLY.
@cloudiah
I wouldn’t be able to stop petting them. It would likely be destracting to everybody. (Plus I assume kids would want to touch them and I am not big on strange kids touching me.)
I don’t think I even realized it was possible to spend more than $1000 on a single pair of boots O_O
Minus the fur=cute
Oddly, I like the fur (assuming it is fake)? Perhaps it is a cold climate thing?
Maybe I just want a low-maintenance pet.
I’d like them, but the fur is a little much. Maybe if it stopped sooner.
A friend of mine got these, somehow not for full price, and they’re really cute:
http://www.fluevog.com/code/?w%255B0%255D=gender%253Awomen&pp=1&view=detail&p=57&colourID=3598
But I hear Fluevog’s quality has gone way downhill. In face, the zipper on my friend’s broke right after she got them home, but the store took care of it at no charge and since then she hasn’t had any problems with them.
@cloudiah
That blue is stunning.
I miss having a Fluevog store right downtown. I’m sad to hear the quality has gone downhill.
@cloudiah
those are really cute. Nice color too.
I worked on Bonnie Cashin’s papers — do you guys know her? American designer. Anyway, she had these designs for outfits made out of turkey feathers, and now I am picturing them with those boots. I know, feathers =/= fur…
She had some really great purse designs too. You can still find them on ebay.
Sometimes I look at shoes and wonder if the embellishment was just an afterthought….
DSQUARED2 Women's Lalique Special ST Cocco Pump,Fard,40 EU/10 M US
Not the blue boots, but the furry boots. Turkey feather outfit with the furry boots. :D
With a ponyhair bag to round out the outfit. Ponyhair stuff really freaks me out.
About Crocs … the medical team that delivered our babies got to talking about one of the doctor’s choice of Shoes Kept At The Office. I can’t remember any of the options they suggested (I was a bit distracted) but they were trying to find something for her that was comfortable and she wouldn’t have to wear booties over them like she was doing.
I figured as long as they were talking about shoes nothing was going wrong. It got to be kind of comforting.
Lady let those tribbles free!
:D
@Falconer
I also find doctor chit-chat comforting. Getting trigger point injections is no where near as big a deal as babies, but it just projects a nice sense of normality and calm and everything-is-going-according-to-plan over whatever is going on. I can totally understand it being even more comforting the less familiar the medical situation and the bigger the fears of things going wrong. :)
How are your awesome wee ones doing?
Funny: “Men’s Rights Activists Turn Samus into a Man after Dad Replaces Mario with Pauline for Daughter.”
Marie –
I’ll see your Have I Mentioned I’m Homosexual and raise you one Have I Driven Everyone Up The Wall Mentioning Mr K Yet. ;)
@Some Gal
Your random thoughts made perfect sense.
Thanks
Cloudiah: SIGH. And “mentroid?” Really?
Mentroid sounds likes a mento-flavored steroids or protein powder. *giggles*
That’s the cutest version of the kitty! :)
Shoes! Socks!
I’m also in the can’t wear heels group; I’ve never been able to wear serious heels, they just throw all the weight onto the ball of my foot and that hurts like hell. Given my legs are 1/2 inch different in length, it’s just as well I never had much of a yen to wear them.
I’ve always been really limited in what shoes I can wear. My feet blister really easily, so sandals, even ones with terry lining on the straps, are out. Whatever I wear has to have socks or stockings underneath. That, plus being nervous about getting my feet walked on by some huge clod, means closed shoes for me all year round. Now I’m in orthotics it’s pretty much either boots or sandshoe-types. Keen have some good laceups, and I bought my first pair of Merrel zip-ups the other day. I’m just having to get out of my “laceups look stupid with skirts” mindset, lol. The other hazard is the shoe pressing on my left little toe – owowowowowow. Don’t want corns, thank you, I know what Mum’s been through with those.
I bought these boots a couple of weeks ago and I think they’ll be good once they’ve stretched a bit more. They’re still a bit hmmm around the toe at present.
Those ultra-high platforms and heelless platforms – gods, they make me see red. Falconer, I agree, they’re just the shape of a crippled, bound foot. That really screams I hate women to me. I don’t give a damn what the designer may claim, you don’t expect people – sorry, women, we’d never ask men to walk around shackled – to wear things like that outside a BDSM context.
Do Re: you were being treated civilly here, I was having a conversation with you and suggesting ways you could maybe get help in changing your misogyny, but the minute any women here disagreed with you, you got hostile and defensive. The “fixation with child porn” crack wasn’t funny and wasn’t really appropriate, especially coming from a stranger, and one, moreover, who’s already said he has issues with women. Don’t lump it on us and retreat to saying “Oh the MRAs are right.” These guys want women denied voting rights, denied work, denied any personal freedom, denied bodily autonomy and often enough they want us dead. Claiming they have any sort of right on their side in their attitude toward women (and not even the straw feminists in their heads) is a massive backward step for someone wanting to change his attitudes. I would strongly suggest you work on your own problems with a professional, and stay out of feminist spaces until you’re a good bit further on the road to seeing women as full, individual human beings.
NB I am not saying this to snark at you: I mean it, and with good will.
@cloudiah
That story seemed suspicious because the quotes were a little on the nose and some searching indicates that Play4Real is a parody website, like the Onion, so that didn’t actually happen.