Man Boobz Contest: Find the Whiniest, Most Entitled Response to Anita Sarkeesian
From “Damsel in Distress: Part 1 – Tropes vs Women in Video Games.”
So Anita Sarkeesian, who apparently didn’t run off with all her Kickstarter money to found a Misandist Gynarchy in the wilds of Canada, has released the first video in her Tropes vs Women in Video Games project. (I’ve embedded it below.)
Naturally, this is causing great consternation in certain corners of the Internet (*cough* Reddit *cough cough* everywhere else that misogynistic nerds congregate *cough*). In the Man Boobz forum, Katz has started a contest to see who can find “the whiniest, brattiest, most entitled response” to Sarkeesian’s video on the Internet. So far Katz and Myoo have found a couple classic comments from irate Sarkeeianaphobes:
[H]ow does one go about stating that genders and gender roles are social constructs? I mean is evolution nothing to her? Does the patriarchy make male peacocks dress provocatively?
Yes. Yes it does.
And:
I’m gradually losing respect for the opposite sex. I’ve unfollowed people on tumblr who talk about how great she is, because it actually causes bile to rise in to my throat.
Yeah, that’s a totally reasonable response to a woman making a video about video games.
So anyway, I’m thinking we should bring the contest over here.
See what you can find! Consider it a sort of scavenger hunt.
Here’s my contribution, from the Men’s Rights subreddit, complaining that Damsels in Distress are the truly privileged ones:
Amazingly, this acutally got called out on r/mr as being pretty damn stupid.
Also, I have another question, to add to the stack of other questions I’ve been asking lately: Just why do you think so many guys get so angry when girls and women invade what they consider a male sphere, like gaming? (Also, why do they consider gaming to belong to boys and men?)
Oh, and here’s the video that’s causing all this hubbub:
Posted on March 9, 2013, in all about the menz, antifeminism, are these guys 12 years old?, david has questions, drama kings, entitled babies, evil women, evo psych fairy tales, harassment, I'm totally being sarcastic, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, reddit, ShitRedditSays and tagged anita sarkeesian, tropes vs women. Bookmark the permalink. 1,073 Comments.
Then an underscore then do the 3232 code again.
yeah….I hate (most) fashion. *sigh*
@falconer
thanks for telling me
sadly I am probably too lazy to type that in all the time :p
@Marie: What’s with the ;_; ? Did I make you feel stupid? I just learned it myself, I’m sorry if I made someone feel stupid with something I just learned. (I’m sorry to make ppl feel stupid in general, I hate feeling stupid myself.)
@ hellkell
Perfect illustration of that theory.
http://www.dsw.com/shoe/naughty+monkey+snoop+pump?prodId=260922&activeCats=cat10006,cat20006
There is no reason for that heel to be so high. It’s not even pretty, it’s ridiculous looking, and wearing it would force you to stand at a weird, unflattering angle. It will throw off the angle of the wearer’s body in ways that are not visually appealing at all, and it looks awkward. Why does it exist? Well…
Yeah, wank to it as long as you still can because feminists are coming for your pr0nz (<= fact).
Does anybody believe it would benefit TOR, if they succeed banning it in Europe?
Cassandra: those fugly shoes are strictly S&M: stand and model.
Poxy: the feminists don’t care about your porn. In fact, if it keeps you from wanking here, I am all for it.
@falconer,
no, I’ve just used it before (but not often) so I felt sad I forgot it.
how about kitties? (seeing if I can remember this…)
=^.,.^=
@cassandra says
owowowoowow those heels….
@poxy
tip: saying fact does not make it true
also, I have nothing against porn. Just keep the porn in the porn, and the video games in the video games.
I think we need a new Voice For Pierre! The Braveheart speech, but with porn and jiggle physics.
Is the bravehart speech where they go ‘but they can.not. take. our FREEDDDOOOMMMM!!’
because if not I have no idea what it is ;p
Yep. They can take our right to beat up women, and they can take our jiggle physics, but they’ll never take our porn! But, you know, way more long drawn out and overdramatic. Possibly still with Mel Gibson, though.
If we’re keeping Mel, “sugar tits” needs to be worked in there.
“sugar tits”
O_o
and sweet, I managed to know what speech without ever seeing the movies :D
@hellkell:
1. I don’t have any porn. 2. If they don’t care about it, why do they want to ban it?
So, TOR or I2P? What do you favor?
(I’m for I2P!)
dude, poxy, nobody is trying to ban your porn. I mean, seriously. Nobody cares about your porn.
Let’s go back to talking about shoes. Poxy’s (nonexistent?) porn and the (nonexistent) attempts to ban is a conversation chock full of (nonexistent) excitement.
I also can’t wear heels because of pain issues. I miss them. :( I also miss socks. I have a huge collection of fun socks that I love, but the pain of putting them on and wearing them is too much.
I found a really nice pair of clogs that don’t hurt my incredibly sensitive feet and that have enough give in them to hold my TENS machine connections without digging into my feet.
On the positive side, I finally had a good reason to go through my shoe collection and get rid of pairs I had worn out and ones I never wore anyway. I had (have?) a hard time getting rid of shoes I love even when they are in pretty rough shape.
Poxy, please cite this ASSertion of yours that feminists want to ban porn. It wasn;t in the newsletter.
Five bucks he’s thinking of ’70s radfems. In before zombie Dworkin.
I have a hard time throwing out stuff that has sentimental value too. I make myself do it so I won’t end up living in one of the houses from Hoarders, but even so, I have way too many shoes. Also jeans.
Also, as if by internet magic, what showed up on Ideeli today? A whole page full of heels but no heels shoes and boots.
@some gal
Sorry to hear about your pain issues. :( For some reason though, I don’t have a problem throwing sneakers away, just the heels I used to be able to wear but can’t anymore. I’ve never liked the look of sneakers much though, just the comfort.
There definitely are clothes I have a hard time throwing away. I have two shirts I got in fourth grade even though they don’t fit and I never wore them.
Hey, Poxy feminists watch porn too…..
Weird….Maybe it is because they have sex drives too….Or maybe I am completely delusional and feminists aren’t people.
My computer is spazzing out so much right now.
I want to scream.
This one is like an art installation, it’s actually kind of interesting looking until you remember that it’s supposed to be a shoe.
http://www.shopping.com/dollhouse-womens/AViOkVNckg5Z7NNedBxk3Q==/info?sb=1
Those shoes without heels… How does a person walk in them? (Punchline: Very carefully!) No, seriously. You’d just be walking on the balls of your feet? Maybe the people who buy those shoes get carried around in a litter all day, ‘cos I can’t see any other way they’re feasible.
Shoes! I have huge feet. Really cuts down on my options, especially combined with not being able to wear much of a heel.
@Marie: I don’t have any porn.
I think Iceland would be an interesting case, though the parliamentary draft is diffuse contrary to the EU proposal (AFAIK the European Parliament has no right for legislative initiative, anyway).
When they try to plan to install a Chinese-style firewall in Iceland, I believe that might be much easier, afaik they have just one main connection to the rest of the Internet.
So I indulge my foot-related fashion needs by buying amusing or colorful socks. Right now I’m wearing a pair that tells the story of Little Red Riding Hood. No one can really see them, but I know they’re there.
Porn: I think there’s something going on in Europe about banning porn, or maybe it’s only banning violent porn? I do think there is sometimes a kind of sex-negative streak in some “official” European feminism, but can’t pretend to know enough about it to have a meaningful discussion. So maybe I should shut up.
Poxy, Can you link to something credible/informative about the Iceland thing?
Actually, that’s a good question. Some Girl, how do you keep your feet warm without socks? I hope there’s some sort of workaround, because having cold feet sucks.
@cloudiah
I love colorful socks! I had a pair that was stripey and rainbow, but sadly they have gotten a whole in them :(
I have never found sneakers that comfortable. They made my feet feel claustrophobic ever since I was a kid. I think part of it is that I never really liked the look so I never got used to the feel.
When I was a tween, I had these platform sandals (the platform part was covered in cork, I was so cool!) and I wore them everywhere. The straps fell off and I had my grandfather nail them back together. My mom made me wear sneakers during a trip to Disneyworld and my feet hurt so much. The next day, I went back to the sandals and had no problem because I was used to them. I don’t think I ever owned or did anything that my mom despised as much as she despised those sandals. :)
“Pornography is already banned in Iceland, and has been for decades”
“Iceland’s left-of-center government insists it is not setting out to sweep away racy magazines or censor sex. The ban would define pornography as material with violent or degrading content.”
Frankly: nothing about this ban appears to have anything to do with feminists…….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/25/iceland-porn-ban-internet-filter_n_2758526.html
I’ve been going through a bright tights thing for a while (to be worn with a denim skirt and knee boots when it’s cold). Hue makes me happy.
(They make cute socks too.)
@CassandraSays
My feet don’t really get cold anymore. They are really sensitive to heat, though and they get blue at room temperature sometimes, but it has been checked out and everything is working fine. So, it is just one if those things that no one understands? I think I might run into problems if I could do more walking, but since a trip to the parking lot is a bit taxing, I don’t really have to worry about frostbite on the way to the car.
@some gal
those sandles sound cool :D
I guess it’s one of those things where the same temperature feels different to different people. I have Reynaud’s disease (very common among Scots), so my feet and hands are always cold. I live in fleecy socks plus furry slippers indoors in the winter.
@cloudiah
I am jealous of your socks (even though I can’t wear them). I have socks with rubber duckies and Nightmare Before Christmas and crazy Christmas patterns that I used to wear year-round. I love that they are basically invisible and, if people notice, they normally appreciate the uniqueness. I can’t bring myself to get rid of any of my socks yet, just like I bought a pair of Croce heels (I heard they were comfy and they are!) in the hope that I’ll be able to go back to them.
If I can keep touching/rubbing my feet and that works in desensitizing them, then maybe I can move up to wearing socks for short periods and eventually wear them again. It just sucks that these things take so much time to work.
@CassandraSays
I had a rheumatologist suggest Reynaud’s because of the turning blue, but I don’t feel it. There is another condition that I forget the name of that deals with always feeling hot, but I don’t quite fit the criteria for it either. Same with circulation problems, I have the symptoms but not the actually problems that cause them.
My hands also don’t really get cold, but they don’t turn blue. It is all strange.
@some gal
you’re socks sound so cute!
Are the shoes comfy enough you can wear them?
With the Reynaud’s when it kicks in it’s like you can see the color draining out of your hands, starting at the fingertips and then moving down. The skin doesn’t actually go blue, more this sort of corpse-like off-white. Comes back in the same pattern, but in reverse. First time it happened it scared the hell out of me. Circulation issues are weird.
@Marie
My Crocs are comfy enough that I could wear them if they didn’t have a heel. I am hoping to work back up to them (like with the socks, thanks btw :) ). I may never get there, but the idea that I could is worth the price of the shoes anyway. If I stop trying new medications that knock me on my ass and don’t help, I could focus on making progress on the physical therapy aspect instead of starting over after each one. It is hard to give up on a pill making things better, though. Luckily, my doctors are very non-shamey about what I can actually accomplish.
It used to be a lot worse before I got on the few medications I’m on (gabapentin for nerve pain/weird sensations, a muscle relaxer, and a pain killer). I am still learning how to listen to my body and stop before I push too hard. That is the hardest part of the whole thing, I think.
All my socks are boring T_T
@CassandraSays
I don’t know exactly what the rheumatologist saw that made him think Reynaud’s. I just remember sitting in the office and being asked what was up with my feet and being confused because I’d never noticed them doing anything that seemed strange to me.
@ some gal
well, yay for them being some comfy. Glad to hear some of the medicines make things better.
@Marie
Thanks. I’m sorry for making the thread all about me. (It’s gotta be better than the troll, I hope.)
Back to shoes, has anyone else tried Crocs? They don’t all look ridiculous. I believe a nurse recommended them as a good for foot pain thing. Any other brands people like for better than average comfort?
People say Crocs are comfy but I have a hard time imagining how they could be since they’re plastic. Never tried them, but plastic doesn’t sound comfortable.
For sandals the most comfortable brand I can think of is SAS. They have really squishy, cushiony footbeds, and very soft leather uppers. Never tried their non-sandals but I assume the loafers etc are probably comfortable too.
@some gal
I’ve never tried crocs, and the only ones I’ve seen look ridiculous. Maybe if they were pink. I like pink.
I should try that sandal brand then (SAS) I’m kind of picky about sandals, but not terribly.
some gal, I don’t mind the thread being all about you :) It’s fun to talk to you (and other people here, just not the troll).
lol, the BEST whiny comments are from the video Amazing Atheist made about hers (which was him whining about her not having the comment section open – he accuses her of running away from criticism when in reality she just doesn’t want to sift through a sea of bullshit).
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=NfkS9YS_T0k&threaded=1
I’ve compiled some of the vial ones, but I left the whiney ones alone….too many of them
Keen sandals are extremely comfortable, and good for walking on all sorts of terrain. I even wear them tubing.
@CassandraSays
Thanks. I’ll write that down. My mom is pretty much sneakers-only (she has to wear them to work) and flip-flops, and everyone else I know has some other issue they have to contend with when they shop for shoes (wide feet, really small feet, etc.) that makes it hard for me to get recommendations for “average” footwear.
The plastic isn’t so bad on the pair I have (but I haven’t worn them out in the summer when I might change my mind about them). It is really soft and the shoes have a liner so you aren’t stepping on plastic. They are very giving and a bit bouncy. My pair looks like Mary Janes with an almost wedge heel. (I don’t know shoe terminology that well…) I think the bounciness will be good for all if Boston’s brick sidewalks. (They are hell on nice shoes!)
Shoe nostalgia: I just found a place where I could order a pair of my favorite shoes from when I was a teenage punk. Seriously tempted.
@hellkell
Thanks! I’ve started a list for the next time I shop for shoes.
Actually one of the cool things about SAS is they have a lot of different widths available. Normally I have issues with any shoes that touch my bare feet, even Keds give me blisters, but the SAS have always been fine right out of the box.
@cloudiah
Those are awesome. They would look really nice with some crazy socks! :)
Going back to something said on the last page (I think it was Marie?) about stompy boots with dresses, I just bought these and OH MY DAYS they are fabulous.
I have a shoe problem. I used to buy at least one pair of heels a week a few years ago. Now I’m kind of skint and the only time I really go out is to go to gigs so the best thing to do has been to go cold turkey. Now I only really wear those boots and my Doc Martens. I still have two shelves of other shoes, but I’ve probably only worn three pairs of them about once each in the past year and a half :/
I used to be able to do everything in heels, now I can only wear them for about half an hour.
@CassandraSays
I made a note to pass the recommendation on to my sister as well. (She has the wide feet.)
Speaking of Rocket Dog, did you know that they make heels in Thai silk? Not that I’d want to encourage your shoe problem or anything…
@thenatfantastic
those shoes are perfect! I need them! *wants* how much is 40 pounds in dollars?
(just asking, because I actually do need to replace my shoes…and I have an amazon gift card! please, life, work for me here).
Poxy moxy pudding and pie
wants to make the feminists cry
when the facts come out to play
Poxy’s got not much to say.
My latest obsession has been opaque patterned tights. Pretty, fun, many of them work-appropriate, and they’re warm enough to take me through the Calgarian winter. Soon I can start wearing sheer patterned tights!
I suspect they’ll be one of those trends that everybody else moves on from next year, and I’ll cling to, because they delight me so.
@melody:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/25/iceland-seeks-internet-pornography-ban
“This is a country with courage,” said Gail Dines, a professor of sociology and women’s studies at Wheelock College in Boston and author of the book Pornland.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/07/european-porn-ban-proposal-regulate-internet-pornography-media_n_2828633.html
could lay the groundwork for laws banning pornography across all media — including the Internet — and could potentially restrict civil liberties, free speech advocates claim.
The broader aim of the sweeping proposal, which was introduced by left-leaning parliamentarian Kartika Liotard of the Netherlands, is to foster gender equality in the EU by combatting gender stereotypes on many fronts.
Hopefully they’re at least less hypocritical than Kyle Payne.
I agree, that the Icelandic parliamentary proposal is diffuse and aims not include all pornography (though ‘degrading content’ is difficult to define). But that’s not the case with the European proposal. Of course it’s a no-teeth bill, the European Parliament doesn’t have legislative initiative.
@viscaria
those sound nice. I love tights, but don’t wear them that much because they’re kind of a pain and too much money to get many pairs.
About $60, I think Marie. You might be able to find them cheaper elsewhere on site, I got mine for £25/$40 (but on a different website).
I absolutely can not, not buy any more heels I won’t wear. *sticks fingers in ears*
@ Viscaria
Tights, cold dead hands, etc.
(The Reynaud’s makes this joke a bit more macabre than I’d normally go for in this space.)
Why the fuck is Poxy whining about porn now?
SOD. OFF. YOU. BORING. WEE. FUCK.
Oh, are we going all Feegle? I could do that.
Also, these are flats so they don’t technically break the no heels ban. Teal Thai silk!
http://www.dsw.com/shoe/rocket+dog+madison+flat?prodId=268268&brand=300325&activeCats=women,300325&isBrand=y&categoryName=women
Nat, those boots are fab. Must resist the urge… I have too many combat boots as it is, if such a thing can be true.
Some Gal: SAS also has outlet stores IIRC.
natfantastic, Those boots are adorable. Want!
I would love to wear these penguin boots around Tom Martin.
Oh, I love the Rocket Dog Thai silk flats.
@Marie
I did a quick search on the US Amazon (that is your location? I may have remembered wrong) and found these, which I don’t think are the exact same, but are similar? They are $90.
I am now in love with about 20 different Rocket Dog shoes that I wouldn’t be able to wear for at least a year (I’m guessing).
@thenatfantastic
Do you know how comfortable the non-boots are? I want to add them to my list, but they don’t exactly look like something that is reasonable for me. *goes back to drooling at shoes anyway*
@thenatfantastic
thanks for the info. Sadly, I probably can’t buy them, but hopefully I find some like them for cheaper.
@cloudiah.
those are nice penguin boots. They’re even purple! (I like purple…)