Seth MacFarlane was the real boob on Oscar night
I find the Oscars tedious, and only watched a few minutes last night — I bailed shortly after Captain Kirk made his appearance — but apparently I should have stuck around, if only to watch the insufferable Seth MacFarlane’s award-winning performance as Unfunny Misogynist Asshole Host.
What, you say, he didn’t actually win an award for that? Well, yes he did: Having read a number of accounts of the whole sorry spectacle, I’m awarding MacFarlane the non-coveted Man Boobz Boob of the Day Award (Oscar Edition). In the wake of MacFarlane’s performance at the Oscars, in which he devoted a whole song to actresses’ breasts, I should note that I am using the word “boob” to mean “nincompoop.” Which, to be honest, is an undeservedly mild epithet for a guy who punctuated his comments with repeated jokes about rape.
A few of the highlights of MacFarlane’s night:
That song-and-dance number about how great it is to see so many boobs in films – including, specifically, in The Accused, and Monster, and Boys Don’t Cry. You know, during the rape scenes in those quie serious films.
MacFarlane’s animatronic teddy bear (from his movie Ted) joking about attending an orgy at Jack Nicholson’s house – you know, the place where Roman Polanski raped a 13-year old girl.
Oh, and then there was MacFarlane joking about how 9-year-old Quvenzhané Wallis would be too old to date George Clooney in about 16 years. (What, is Heartiste writing MacFarlane’s jokes?) And his bizarre domestic violence joke about Chris Brown and Rihanna. And on and on. (See here for many more examples.)
Getting into the spirit of the evening, whoever was doing The Onion’s twitter account decided it would be hilarious to refer to the aforementioned 9-year-old Quvenzhané Wallis as a “cunt.” The Onion later deleted the tweet and offered an apology for it.
Somehow I doubt we’re going to get an apology from MacFarlane.
Here are a couple more takes on the whole unfortunate evening.
Why Seth MacFarlane’s Misogyny Matters (Vulture)
Seth MacFarlane and the Oscars’ Hostile, Ugly, Sexist Night (The New Yorker)
Oscar Watch: Was That Awful or What? (NY Post)
EDITED TO ADD: Oh, joy! The Men’s Rights subreddit weighs in on the issue, in a thread sort-of-responding to that New Yorker piece.
EDITED TO ADD AGAIN: Actually, r/mensrights has two threads on the subject; here’s the other one.
Posted on February 25, 2013, in all about the menz, are these guys 12 years old?, creepy, misogyny, on the tv, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, rape jokes, unsolicited penis updates and tagged misogyny, oscars, rape jokes, seth macfarlane. Bookmark the permalink. 395 Comments.
@cloudiah HUBBAH HUBBAH *removes all clothing*
wow. MRAs were right, this really does work.
@emilygoddess my gosh i’m so sorry for your loss. <3 to you and yours.
@heidihi, that really is what it seems like. Personally I think he looks like a squinty bowl of self satisfied porridge, and while I agree with general consensus that his voice is rather nice, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near my nether regions, partially because he doesn’t do it for me and partially because I’m pretty much convinced that he couldn’t find the clitoris with the help of a map.
Thing is, I’ve actually watched quite a bit of each of his shows, before I became completely disgusted with him. If you watch any of them for any length of time, it becomes pretty apparent that he’s got some issue with women, particularly with teenage girls. As if they don’t get shit on enough. Just look at how the teenage daughter character gets treated in every one of his shows; Roberta from the Cleveland Show is presented as selfish and slutty, with no prospects for the future other than getting “famous” (this is doubly problematic when you consider that the Cleveland Show is about a black family and Roberta falls into just about every negative stereotype there is about young black women) Haley from American Dad is a liberal mouthpiece presented as a slutty, pot smoking hypocrite, and don’t even get me started on poor Meg from Family Guy. The abuse she suffers at the hands of her family is borderline triggering. What’s even more disgusting, IMO, is that when fans began to express dislike for how she gets treated, Mcfarlane offered up an episode that basically amounted to telling us Meg HAD to be abused, for the good of the family, because if she didn’t everyone else suffered. So that… makes it okay?
Uhhhhg.
I used to love Family Guy in college, but then my dad bought me the Family Guy album. It takes a lot to be so obnoxious and offensive that even Fox won’t let you go all-out…
It’s funny, because MacFarlane is actually a pretty hardcore liberal. Yes, Haley is a caricature, but it’s meant as a contrast to the equally ridiculous conservative caricature that is her father. As a rule, all of his shows have a distinctly left-wing sensibility.
But then, modern gender feminists/Social Justice Warriors are more like a bizarre splinter cell of mainstream liberalism. I suppose MacFarlane doesn’t fellate the politically correct phallus enough and/or engage in adequate penance for his white penis.
Yeah, yeah, you”re pining away for him and know he’d never be interested even if he was bisexual or homosexual, Arks. We get it, you don’t need to go on with your fantasies.
Oh and Arksy, what happened to your gay porn sub gravatar? You really should use it, y’know, it says all that needs to be said about your thoughts on sex. Think of all the strain you’d save yourself typing the same thing over and over again.
Draggy, McFarlane doesn’t get a free pass for being overtly misogynistic just because he’s on ‘our side’ of the political spectrum.
though if this is how you see this sort of thing, I guess it explains why MRAs are cool with letting abusers, racists, and terrorists represent them.
Hi all! Been busy for the last couple of days, between my car not turning off (turns out there’s a recall on it for exactly that), preparing for an office luncheon (turned out delicious), and my mother’s reaction to being newly partially retired,(let’s organize ALL the things!)
Not that I’m complaining about that last one. I was just not expecting to be asked to put a bookcase together first thing Sunday morning. Thank heavens it’s an IKEA bookcase.
I know, I know! How did I manage to put a bookcase together without help from a man? I’m sure Seth McFarlane would have helped me if I’d flashed my boobs at him!
I never watch live TV anymore thanks to the DVR, so I just fast-forwarded through all of Mr McFarlane’s unpleasantness once the trend for the evening became clear.
Despite Draggin’ Arks’s assertion, I have to say I find Mr McFarlane rather ordinary looking. If I passed him on the street, I probably wouldn’t recognize him. And as for experiencing a manatee/clam/waterfall/sea urchin/spackle/love phlegm reaction between my legs, I’d have it for Timothy Spall before I had it for Seth McFarlane. Mr Spall is a talented actor, has been married to his wife for over 30 years, and comes across in interviews as a really lovely person.
People who are ugly on the inside and pretty on the outside tend to start seeming ugly on the outside too, once you get to know them.
QFT
And vice versa, I find. Once you get to know people, they stop looking like their initial appearance and just look like themselves, if that makes sense.
Yes, but if every woman there stood up and walked out, that would definitely be something worth talking about. Hell, I’m sure some of the men there wouldn’t mind taking that walk either. As it stands, everyone sits and the assholes continue thinking that they’re so brave saying what everyone is thinking.
And as for the onion… What the fuck?
Hey Bad Dog, want some more snow? We got plenty coming our way tonight. I could send you some.
“The audience was up 3% from last year’s awards hosted by Billy Crystal and improved 11% among the key adults 18-49 demographic to a 13.0 rating…showed even greater gains among young and male viewers, up 20% with adults 18-34, up 34% with men 18-34 and 16% with men 18-49.”
To see Seth McFarlane feminists can just look in the mirror. The problem will continue to get worse until hundreds of millions of disenfranchised men find relief from feminist legal persecution. Relief that will only come with the continued rise of the MRM.
Google “full text” followed by any major bill that you want. Housing, education, violence, health, whatever. Then search the document for the word “woman” and search for the word “men”. Learn the truth.
How do you think men feel about being excluded from billions of dollars of institutional protection by their government? How do you think men feel about being denied eqaul protection by the courts?
The worst part is that men, boys, and fathers fare FAR worse than women, by any measurable standard, in each of these areas. Health, education, violence, housing. Your evil feminist campaign of bigotry and hatred is generating a lot of anger in men. Anger that fools like Seth McFarlane harness for personal gain. Anger that the MRM will harness for transformative social change.
Equal protection under the law for all.
Equal protection of government for all.
Bye, bigots.
Your pretentiousness, smugness, and stupidty make me want to crawl into a fucking hole.
Ooh, Anthony’s back! Any progress on the plan to divide the US along the Mississippi river?
Good grief, Antz is back.
Are he and Arks trying to get a head start for Troll of the Year?
Sorry, fellas, your schtick hasn’t changed and it wasn’t interesting or varied enough to win before, however much wingnuttery it contained. Just because you’re not facing Meller and NWO’s competition, don’t think you can trot out the same tired old routine and expect the judging committee to pass it.
@ellex – I really like Timothy Spall. Did you ever watch Auf Wiedersehen, Pet? I don’t know if he made his start in that but it must be fairly early in his career, the first series was made in the 80s. Hugely funny show, especially the third series that’s based partly in Middlesborough and partly in Arizona.
Oh dear. Please do tell me about this plan of his and why he cares about it.
He thinks men and women can’t live together and should replace each other with virtual partners. Not even robots, just VR stuff. Old-timers will have more details.
The creepy part is that he is allegedly married and a father, and still thinks he’d be better off with a VR version of his wife, because there’d be no chance of her leaving him … even though I don’t think he’s ever hinted his real wife is going to. He’s so insecure I’m surprised his shaking doesn’t set off earth tremors.
Antz’ plan can be found here, both in video form and with links to his comments.
I can’t figure out why this post, out of all the recent posts, is what drew Antz back to this hive of evil bigots.
1. Feminism is making men mad.
2. Angry men think Seth MacFarlane is funny.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!
Hi, bigots! How you all doing today? ;-)
“Alien” has already been mentioned, but on a much smaller (but more directly relevant to this topic) scale, Q. Wallis’s role in “Beasts of the Southern Wild” was, IIIRC, originally written as a little boy, then altered to a little [i]child[/i] before they held auditions, which seems to have worked out pretty well for them. :-p I believe the author of the play the movie is based on has said that she thinks it’d be cool to see the play cast the same way in future.
Oh, dangit, I wish I could keep better track of where I was posting so I’d use the right kind of brackets. *sigh*
@Polliwog, I feel your pain. Someone (I nominate Argenti) should make a comment formatting “cheat sheet” and then we can beg David to put it over there in the sidebar.
It would’ve been really easy to make that boobs song a biting satire about the male gaze and treating serious actresses in serious roles as mere sex objects.
::waves:: I’m good!
I’m thinking I’m more a smallot than a bigot though. But I’d rather be an ocelot, they’re so pretty!
Okay, Kittehs’ is an ocelot. It’s official.
Today in (waning) bigotry: Did you guys see how over 70 USian Republicans signed onto a legal brief supporting same-sex marriage? Now that’s a transformative social movement for you — perhaps because that movement’s whole identity wasn’t wrapped up in hatred. Just saying.
Timothy Spall: Loved him in Life is Sweet.
@cloudiah
How would you see it as a reality show? The casting part you mean?
@polliwog
I hadn’t heard that. That is cool. I haven’t seen that movie yet, but it does sound well worth seeing.
@Fibinachi
I understood your Spanish! I have just started learning and this is the first time I’ve seen Spanish in the wild and known what it meant. So thanks! :)
Say, is an ocel-ot the opposite of an incel-ot?
Sir Incelot, the knight the ladies could
n’tresist.Not bad, not bad. How about you, bigot?
Bigot, biggerot, biggestot.
Ots of the world unite!
*thinks: WTF was in that coffee?*
When I was a pre-pubescent lover of adventure stories I used to get given all the cheap re-prints of classics. I was so annoyed by the lack of girls I used to do gender-blind casting in my head – and it worked pretty well, especially with first-person stories. I still remember Treasure Island as told by a cabin girl, and Professor Aronnax from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea works would be really easy to cast as a woman. I think it would be fantastic if they made movies and rolled a dice for physical aspects of casting – I’d say chose on personality, but I think people’s preconceptions can be so strong there would then be a tendency to identify people of the same gender or race as more of a match.
I recently went back and re-read a few of the old books to see if it still workded, but I don’t have the same tolerance for the stories – I can’t believe I could stomach 20,000 leagues as a 9 year old when about a 1/4 of it seems to be lists of fish.
@Kim, I think that was emilygoddess who had the idea about a reality show.
I see what you mean, but you’d still want to choose the best actor you could. Especially since they wouldn’t be able to rely on the shorthand storytelling of stereotypes. I think you’d have to rely on the people doing the casting making a conscious effort to ignore those stereotypes while casting.
Perhaps if you did casting by reality tv, you’d get enough votes that you could do some sort of algorithm that weighted votes based on how much a person matched the stereotype, so that a person who would traditionally be cast in a role would have to get more votes to actually win the role. I’m thinking some experiments that controlled for acting skill could measure those kinds of biases.
woops! I knew it was emilygoddess, but I wrote cloudiah. Sorry emilygoddess! And thank you cloudiah.
I am worried about the possible creation of a movie/TV series of the Honor Harrington novels since it would be such a good role they would refuse to let a woman play it. :(
When I was a pre-pubescent lover of adventure stories I used to get given all the cheap re-prints of classics. I was so annoyed by the lack of girls I used to do gender-blind casting in my head – and it worked pretty well, especially with first-person stories. I still remember Treasure Island as told by a cabin girl, and Professor Aronnax from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea works would be really easy to cast as a woman. I think it would be fantastic if they made movies and rolled a dice for physical aspects of casting – I’d say chose on personality, but I think people’s preconceptions can be so strong there would then be a tendency to identify people of the same gender or race as more of a match.
I used to do that too! I still think my gender-reversed version of Bester’s The Demolished Man would make a boss movie.
I used to write in girlfriends for the male leads in my head when I read stories about boys. I did it for movies too.
That seems so sad now.
I was thinking a show where some filmmakers are given bare-bones character descriptions from a well-known work, and they have to cast the characters and maybe film a few scenes, and then it gets compared to the original work. IDK how you’d strip the characters enough to keep the contestants from guessing the original work, and the filming of scenes might have to take place after the Big Reveal, but it could be very illuminating if someone could get it to work.
Hey Antzy! How’s the FOREIGN BRIDE?
Hi Kitteh/ocelot! No, I haven’t seen Auf Wiedersehen, Pet, although I’ve heard of it. But I see there’s a bunch of it on Youtube! Hooray! British TV can be so difficult to get for us USians. I just discovered that there’s a bunch of Butterflies episodes on Youtube and I’ve been watching that.
Wow, that show would boggle the minds of MRA’s. They’d never be able to understand or believe that Ria never actually is unfaithful to her husband. Or understand why she’s unhappy with her life.
I got my car back! Hooray! And due to the recall for the ignition, I didn’t have to pay $150 to get it fixed, which I can ill afford just now. Tomorrow I have to shell out $250 for my asthma meds.
Hi bigots, smallots, ocelots. I would like to be alot of fire, thank you very much. I just can’t seem to get warm right now. Imma go make me some hot buttered rum and cider, and imagine that you are all salivating over your keyboards, wishing you were here with me.
inurashii, “free pass”? I highly doubt all this press Seth is getting is going to hamper anything he does. He will still be popular, rich and he won’t care who he offends. Haters gonna hate.
Or will develop a Gervais-style martyr/superiority complex. Well, more of one.
Oh right, Seth MacFarlane has a lot of money so that must prove he is right. Thanks for clearing that up niNNY.
I never said he was right or wrong. Just that he can do what he wants and often does.
Shut up, NNY. You would think money makes right, because you are a walking cliche. Yawn.
Er, niNNY, many people can do what they want. Some of us exercise this thing called “free will” to avoid doing things that hurt others. That is what makes us “decent human beings.” I know I am using concepts that are unfamiliar to you, but take your time and maybe you’ll learn. (hellkell, what’s the over/under on niNNY being able to learn?)
“I know I am using concepts that are unfamiliar to you, but take your time and maybe you’ll learn.”
B___n learn? Not going to happen.
Funny, I see you as the walking cliche hellkell. You are like the spitting image of “the angry feminist”. All name calling, no rational arguments. However, just to be somewhat fair, I am not bringing morality into this. I’m not saying what he did was right or wrong. Just that he personally doesn’t care who he offends or who find his stuff funny. He is who he wants to be and everyone else can either like him or hate him.
Timothy Spall: Loved him in Life is Sweet
OMG, I hated that film. Loathed it with a passion. That I had to watch it six times in two weeks made it worse.
His was probably the least horrid part in the film (well the blonde daughter maybe, but since I liked no one [well, I might have like the waitress, but she was such a small part I couldn't really form an opinion], and cared not whit about any of them, it really doesn’t matter).
re casting: The stage play of Coraline was age blind, and I think gender blind. I didn’t see it, but MBF did, and said it was good.
Oh that’s right, niNNY is the reincarnated sock of our most tedious troll. [yawns]
He will still be popular, rich and he won’t care who he offends. Haters gonna hate.
And Seth continues to do so. That he dresses up his misogyny, racism, anti-semitism, etc., as if it were comedy doesn’t change that what he did was hateful.
cloudiah, if people went around trying to speak and not offend someone else, nothing would be said besides general pleasantries.
I am not bringing morality into this. I’m not saying what he did was right or wrong.
You lie. You are saying what he did isn’t worthy of condemnation, that those who condemn it aren’t doing it from reason, but because, “they hate”.
That’s a moral statement, against condemning him, ie. an indemnification of his errors.
Context, it matters.
pecunium clearly doesn’t understand that you can say something and not believe it.
Funny, I see you as the walking cliche hellkell. You are like the spitting image of “the angry feminist”. All name calling, no rational arguments.
Try harder, Brandon. You don;t have arguments. That would require you stand and defend one position instead of moving goalposts like a motherfucker. You’re the spitting image of the banal dudebro douche.
cloudiah: there is no evidence he can learn.
And you don’t understand that you can’t piss on us and make us think it’s rainwater.
pecunium, you can condemn him all you want. My point is that he doesn’t give a rats ass if you do.
Aw, niNNY, honey, did your fuckdoll with a pulse stop giggling when you spanked her and finally dumped you?
hellkell, you done? *yawn*
(directed at Brandon, of course)
Wow, NNY. I manage to spend pretty much every day talking to people without offending them. I can even have political discussions with my co-workers, some of whom do not share my political views, and we manage not to offend each other.
Then again, I treat all people like they’re actually people. That probably helps.
No shit Seth MacFarlane doesn’t care what we think. Doesn’t stop us from expressing those thoughts, you jackass. What’s it to you?
No, dear Brandon, I’m not done until you leave. Got any more cliches you’d like to share?
So who’s lying, B? You or McFarlane? And what’s the excuse for spouting abuse onstage, insulting and offending people and making jokes about rape and DV? You’re conflating deliberately offensive, triggering abuse disguised as “humour” with saying things that need to be said, like misogyny and racism are real and should be fought. Plenty of people hate hearing that said, for sure … like you.
You’re still fixated on hellkell, I see. Pathetic, really.
niNNY doesn’t know what words mean, and thinks jokes that punch down are the equivalent of jokes that punch up. And he thinks hellkell will care about his opinion.
Gah, so tedious.
hippodameia8527, Seth has mocked and made fun of my gender, nationality, race, religion, etc… The difference is I don’t take it personally. Is your identity that fragile that one comedian can ruin your day?
“Aw, niNNY, honey, did your fuckdoll
with a pulse stop gigglingdeflate when you spanked herand finally dumped you?”FTFY
brandon, why did you come back? And are you taping this encounter?
Ninny, you don’t get the idea of being offended on other people’s behalf, do you? Of course not. Nothing that didn’t affect B___ matters, we know that from long and tedious experience.
Brandon, please refer to my previous comment about piss and rainwater.